Cal 36

Hi all, I will be looking at a 1966 Cal 36 is there anything in particular I should look for. I own a CS 27 now she sails between 4 - 5 knots on average I was wondering what a Cal 36 will do. I looked at the sailing calulaters and they give myme a hull speed of 6.96. Dave

Hi Mike we met you @ calotpia in richmond ..?? not sure if we will bring her to santa cruz or Redwood city thanks for the info ... we want to have calotpia in redwood city @ PYC but all efforts now have to go into our 36 .. did you ever get you wood toe rail fixed? edward&helen

Redwood City? Pardon me if I am butting in here but have you consider Brisbane Marina? Allen On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > Hi Mike we met you @ calotpia in richmond ..?? > not sure if we will bring her to santa cruz or > Redwood city thanks for the info ... we want to have > calotpia in redwood city @ PYC but all efforts now have to go into our 36 > .. did you ever get you wood > toe rail fixed? edward&helen > > >

Congratulations on your purchase. Let us know when you get Fiji to Northern Calif., I would love to see her. The 36 is a great sailing boat. Caltopia at PYC....sounds like a great idea. Stay in touch. Mike To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: he… [at] sbcglobal.net Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:09:39 -0800 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 36 Hi Mike we met you @ calotpia in richmond ..?? not sure if we will bring her to santa cruz or Redwood city thanks for the info ... we want to have calotpia in redwood city @ PYC but all efforts now have to go into our 36 .. did you ever get you wood toe rail fixed? edward&helen Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/

I've run into a fellow who has become feed up with a project boat and will let it go for next to nothing. It is a 1968 Cal 36. He removed the engine which was an obscure manufacturer and had bought and planned to install a Yanmar 3qm30 until the yard told him that the engine was really too big and the fitting very expensive. He has had the rigging redone and the wiring changed but not connected. Sanded and painted the bottom and topsides. It is on the eastern shore of Md.. It is a beautiful boat as Bill Lapsworth designs appear to be. It is not the cruising version. The interior seems ample, the yard owners claims the hull is sound but interior needs a lot of work. The boat has promise. I have included a couple of pictures. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with this boat. How are they to sail and maintain.Can it be used offshore? It weighs less than my E32. I am thinking of moving up in size. Would it be worth the trouble. If I choose not to get her, would anyone be interested on taking her on?

She looks like a mini-40 and seems to have a very nice paint job. I think the yard is trying to hustle something because a Yanmar 3gm is not too big for a 36. Sounds like they were trying to hustle the big(ger) bucks. Modifying the exhaust system will be a pain but no more so than for any other engine If the rig is sound and winches all there, you may have yourself a winner. IF you aren't afraid of a little work and can spare the time to do it. On 4/13/2011 12:23 AM, do… [at] usa.com wrote: > [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from do… [at] usa.com included below] > > I've run into a fellow who has become feed up with a project boat and > will let it go for next to nothing. It is a 1968 Cal 36. He removed > the engine which was an obscure manufacturer and had bought and > planned to install a Yanmar 3qm30 until the yard told him that the > engine was really too big and the fitting very expensive. He has had > the rigging redone and the wiring changed but not connected. Sanded > and painted the bottom and topsides. It is on the eastern shore of > Md.. It is a beautiful boat as Bill Lapsworth designs appear to be. It > is not the cruising version. The interior seems ample, the yard owners > claims the hull is sound but interior needs a lot of work. The boat > has promise. I have included a couple of pictures. I was wondering if > anyone has had any experience with this boat. How are they to sail and > maintain.Can it be used offshore? It weighs less than my E32. I am > thinking of moving up in size. Would it be worth the trouble. If I > choose not to get her, would anyone be interested on taking her on? > > > Attachment(s) from do… [at] usa.com > > 2 of 2 Photo(s) > > 20334_100832503284269_100000725587153_21659_8175250_n.jpg > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/1821732386/item/2101297438/view> > 20334_100832503284269_100000725587153_21659_8175250_n.jpg > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/1821732386/item/2101297438/view> > 20334_100833349950851_100000725587153_21694_2483861_n.jpg > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/1821732386/item/647454533/view> > 20334_100833349950851_100000725587153_21694_2483861_n.jpg > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/1821732386/item/647454533/view> > >

The 3QM engine is a big chunk of iron, [ not built for several decades ] not to be confused with the much smaller and lighter 3GM series engines. Joe D On 4/13/2011 7:54 AM, mike wrote: > > > She looks like a mini-40 and seems to have a very nice paint job. I > think the yard is trying to hustle something because a Yanmar 3gm is > not too big for a 36. Sounds like they were trying to hustle the > big(ger) bucks. Modifying the exhaust system will be a pain but no > more so than for any other engine If the rig is sound and winches all > there, you may have yourself a winner. IF you aren't afraid of a > little work and can spare the time to do it. > > On 4/13/2011 12:23 AM, do… [at] usa.com wrote: >> I've run into a fellow who has become feed up with a project boat and >> will let it go for next to nothing. It is a 1968 Cal 36. He removed >> the engine which was an obscure manufacturer and had bought and >> planned to install a Yanmar 3qm30 until the yard told him that the >> engine was really too big and the fitting very expensive. He has had >> the rigging redone and the wiring changed but not connected. Sanded >> and painted the bottom and topsides. It is on the eastern shore of >> Md.. It is a beautiful boat as Bill Lapsworth designs appear to be. >> It is not the cruising version. The interior seems ample, the yard >> owners claims the hull is sound but interior needs a lot of work. >> The boat has promise. I have included a couple of pictures. I was >> wondering if anyone has had any experience with this boat. How are >> they to sail and maintain.Can it be used offshore? It weighs less >> than my E32. I am thinking of moving up in size. Would it be worth >> the trouble. If I choose not to get her, would anyone be interested >> on taking her on? >> > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3571 - Release Date: 04/13/11 03:09:00 > -- *Joe DeMers - owner* Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184*

Ah. Thought that was a typo, but you're right; the 3QM is a lot bigger than the 3GM. I've only seen a couple and they were old saltwater cooled chunks of rust. On the bright side, maybe he can convert the engine for use on his lawn tractor? On 4/13/2011 9:30 AM, Joe DeMers wrote: > > > The 3QM engine is a big chunk of iron, [ not built for several decades > ] not to be confused with the much smaller and lighter 3GM series > engines. > > Joe D > > On 4/13/2011 7:54 AM, mike wrote: >> She looks like a mini-40 and seems to have a very nice paint job. I >> think the yard is trying to hustle something because a Yanmar 3gm is >> not too big for a 36. Sounds like they were trying to hustle the >> big(ger) bucks. Modifying the exhaust system will be a pain but no >> more so than for any other engine If the rig is sound and winches all >> there, you may have yourself a winner. IF you aren't afraid of a >> little work and can spare the time to do it. >> >> On 4/13/2011 12:23 AM, do… [at] usa.com wrote: >>> I've run into a fellow who has become feed up with a project boat >>> and will let it go for next to nothing. It is a 1968 Cal 36. He >>> removed the engine which was an obscure manufacturer and had bought >>> and planned to install a Yanmar 3qm30 until the yard told him that >>> the engine was really too big and the fitting very expensive. He has >>> had the rigging redone and the wiring changed but not connected. >>> Sanded and painted the bottom and topsides. It is on the eastern >>> shore of Md.. It is a beautiful boat as Bill Lapsworth designs >>> appear to be. It is not the cruising version. The interior seems >>> ample, the yard owners claims the hull is sound but interior needs a >>> lot of work. The boat has promise. I have included a couple of >>> pictures. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with this >>> boat. How are they to sail and maintain.Can it be used offshore? It >>> weighs less than my E32. I am thinking of moving up in size. Would >>> it be worth the trouble. If I choose not to get her, would anyone >>> be interested on taking her on? >>> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG -www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3571 - Release Date: 04/13/11 03:09:00 >> > > -- > > *Joe DeMers - owner* > > Sound Marine Diesel LLC > > SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> > > *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* > > > >

The old Yanmar QM series [ 2 and 3 cylinder engines ] had the common fault of cracking heads. An uncracked head is worth $, as no new heads are available from Yanmar. The QM series were available in raw water and fresh water cooled versions. We have sold several new Beta Marine engines to replace the old QM series engines, due to the head cracking / no new heads available problem. *Joe DeMers - owner* Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* On 4/13/2011 9:36 AM, mike wrote: > > > Ah. Thought that was a typo, but you're right; the 3QM is a lot bigger > than the 3GM. I've only seen a couple and they were old saltwater > cooled chunks of rust. On the bright side, maybe he can convert the > engine for use on his lawn tractor? > > On 4/13/2011 9:30 AM, Joe DeMers wrote: >> The 3QM engine is a big chunk of iron, [ not built for several >> decades ] not to be confused with the much smaller and lighter 3GM >> series engines. >> >> Joe D >> >> On 4/13/2011 7:54 AM, mike wrote: >>> She looks like a mini-40 and seems to have a very nice paint job. I >>> think the yard is trying to hustle something because a Yanmar 3gm is >>> not too big for a 36. Sounds like they were trying to hustle the >>> big(ger) bucks. Modifying the exhaust system will be a pain but no >>> more so than for any other engine If the rig is sound and winches >>> all there, you may have yourself a winner. IF you aren't afraid of a >>> little work and can spare the time to do it. >>> >>> On 4/13/2011 12:23 AM, do… [at] usa.com wrote: >>>> I've run into a fellow who has become feed up with a project boat >>>> and will let it go for next to nothing. It is a 1968 Cal 36. He >>>> removed the engine which was an obscure manufacturer and had bought >>>> and planned to install a Yanmar 3qm30 until the yard told him that >>>> the engine was really too big and the fitting very expensive. He >>>> has had the rigging redone and the wiring changed but not >>>> connected. Sanded and painted the bottom and topsides. It is on >>>> the eastern shore of Md.. It is a beautiful boat as Bill Lapsworth >>>> designs appear to be. It is not the cruising version. The interior >>>> seems ample, the yard owners claims the hull is sound but interior >>>> needs a lot of work. The boat has promise. I have included a >>>> couple of pictures. I was wondering if anyone has had any >>>> experience with this boat. How are they to sail and maintain.Can it >>>> be used offshore? It weighs less than my E32. I am thinking of >>>> moving up in size. Would it be worth the trouble. If I choose not >>>> to get her, would anyone be interested on taking her on? >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG -www.avg.com >>> Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3571 - Release Date: 04/13/11 03:09:00 >>> >> >> -- >> >> *Joe DeMers - owner* >> >> Sound Marine Diesel LLC >> >> SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> >> >> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* >> > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3571 - Release Date: 04/13/11 03:09:00 > -- *Joe DeMers - owner* Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184*

So since the PO was planning on installing it as a replacement engine, it may be in good enough shape to be sold or used as a trade to offset the cost of a newer, better engine? On a side note but semi-related; I had the privilege of being invited to sail aboard /Moonshadow,/ a Cal-34, before and after she had your Beta Marine engine installed and the difference in performance was astounding! It just purrs. On 4/13/2011 9:45 AM, Joe DeMers wrote: > > > The old Yanmar QM series [ 2 and 3 cylinder engines ] had the common > fault of cracking heads. An uncracked head is worth $, as no new heads > are available from Yanmar. The QM series were available in raw water > and fresh water cooled versions. > > We have sold several new Beta Marine engines to replace the old QM > series engines, due to the head cracking / no new heads available > problem. > > *Joe DeMers - owner* > > Sound Marine Diesel LLC > > SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> > > *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* > > > On 4/13/2011 9:36 AM, mike wrote: >> Ah. Thought that was a typo, but you're right; the 3QM is a lot >> bigger than the 3GM. I've only seen a couple and they were old >> saltwater cooled chunks of rust. On the bright side, maybe he can >> convert the engine for use on his lawn tractor? >> >> On 4/13/2011 9:30 AM, Joe DeMers wrote: >>> The 3QM engine is a big chunk of iron, [ not built for several >>> decades ] not to be confused with the much smaller and lighter 3GM >>> series engines. >>> >>> Joe D >>> >>> On 4/13/2011 7:54 AM, mike wrote: >>>> She looks like a mini-40 and seems to have a very nice paint job. I >>>> think the yard is trying to hustle something because a Yanmar 3gm >>>> is not too big for a 36. Sounds like they were trying to hustle the >>>> big(ger) bucks. Modifying the exhaust system will be a pain but no >>>> more so than for any other engine If the rig is sound and winches >>>> all there, you may have yourself a winner. IF you aren't afraid of >>>> a little work and can spare the time to do it. >>>> >>>> On 4/13/2011 12:23 AM, do… [at] usa.com wrote: >>>>> I've run into a fellow who has become feed up with a project boat >>>>> and will let it go for next to nothing. It is a 1968 Cal 36. He >>>>> removed the engine which was an obscure manufacturer and had >>>>> bought and planned to install a Yanmar 3qm30 until the yard told >>>>> him that the engine was really too big and the fitting very >>>>> expensive. He has had the rigging redone and the wiring changed >>>>> but not connected. Sanded and painted the bottom and topsides. It >>>>> is on the eastern shore of Md.. It is a beautiful boat as Bill >>>>> Lapsworth designs appear to be. It is not the cruising version. >>>>> The interior seems ample, the yard owners claims the hull is sound >>>>> but interior needs a lot of work. The boat has promise. I have >>>>> included a couple of pictures. I was wondering if anyone has had >>>>> any experience with this boat. How are they to sail and >>>>> maintain.Can it be used offshore? It weighs less than my E32. I am >>>>> thinking of moving up in size. Would it be worth the trouble. If >>>>> I choose not to get her, would anyone be interested on taking her on? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG -www.avg.com >>>> Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3571 - Release Date: 04/13/11 03:09:00 >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> *Joe DeMers - owner* >>> >>> Sound Marine Diesel LLC >>> >>> SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> >>> >>> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* >>> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG -www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3571 - Release Date: 04/13/11 03:09:00 >> > > -- > > *Joe DeMers - owner* > > Sound Marine Diesel LLC > > SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> > > *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* > > > >

On 4/13/2011 9:54 AM, mike wrote: > > > So since the PO was planning on installing it as a replacement engine, > it may be in good enough shape to be sold or used as a trade to offset > the cost of a newer, better engine? ****** Yes, there is a demand for the old QM series engines. However, finding one without a cracked head can be a challenge. > On a side note but semi-related; I had the privilege of being invited > to sail aboard /Moonshadow,/ a Cal-34, before and after she had your > Beta Marine engine installed and the difference in performance was > astounding! It just purrs. ****** Modern diesel technology is amazing, the engines just get smoother, quieter, smaller, more powerful, lighter, more fuel efficient, etc. As an example, the 3QM engine of 30 horsepower weighs over 500 pounds. The Beta 30 engine weighs 330 pounds, and produces the same horsepower from a much smaller package. Joe D > > On 4/13/2011 9:45 AM, Joe DeMers wrote: >> The old Yanmar QM series [ 2 and 3 cylinder engines ] had the common >> fault of cracking heads. An uncracked head is worth $, as no new >> heads are available from Yanmar. The QM series were available in raw >> water and fresh water cooled versions. >> >> We have sold several new Beta Marine engines to replace the old QM >> series engines, due to the head cracking / no new heads available >> problem. >> >> *Joe DeMers - owner* >> >> Sound Marine Diesel LLC >> >> SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> >> >> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* >> >> >> On 4/13/2011 9:36 AM, mike wrote: >>> Ah. Thought that was a typo, but you're right; the 3QM is a lot >>> bigger than the 3GM. I've only seen a couple and they were old >>> saltwater cooled chunks of rust. On the bright side, maybe he can >>> convert the engine for use on his lawn tractor? >>> >>> On 4/13/2011 9:30 AM, Joe DeMers wrote: >>>> The 3QM engine is a big chunk of iron, [ not built for several >>>> decades ] not to be confused with the much smaller and lighter 3GM >>>> series engines. >>>> >>>> Joe D >>>> >>>> On 4/13/2011 7:54 AM, mike wrote: >>>>> She looks like a mini-40 and seems to have a very nice paint job. >>>>> I think the yard is trying to hustle something because a Yanmar >>>>> 3gm is not too big for a 36. Sounds like they were trying to >>>>> hustle the big(ger) bucks. Modifying the exhaust system will be a >>>>> pain but no more so than for any other engine If the rig is sound >>>>> and winches all there, you may have yourself a winner. IF you >>>>> aren't afraid of a little work and can spare the time to do it. >>>>> >>>>> On 4/13/2011 12:23 AM, do… [at] usa.com wrote: >>>>>> I've run into a fellow who has become feed up with a project boat >>>>>> and will let it go for next to nothing. It is a 1968 Cal 36. He >>>>>> removed the engine which was an obscure manufacturer and had >>>>>> bought and planned to install a Yanmar 3qm30 until the yard told >>>>>> him that the engine was really too big and the fitting very >>>>>> expensive. He has had the rigging redone and the wiring changed >>>>>> but not connected. Sanded and painted the bottom and topsides. It >>>>>> is on the eastern shore of Md.. It is a beautiful boat as Bill >>>>>> Lapsworth designs appear to be. It is not the cruising version. >>>>>> The interior seems ample, the yard owners claims the hull is >>>>>> sound but interior needs a lot of work. The boat has promise. I >>>>>> have included a couple of pictures. I was wondering if anyone has >>>>>> had any experience with this boat. How are they to sail and >>>>>> maintain.Can it be used offshore? It weighs less than my E32. I >>>>>> am thinking of moving up in size. Would it be worth the trouble. >>>>>> If I choose not to get her, would anyone be interested on taking >>>>>> her on? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG -www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3571 - Release Date: 04/13/11 03:09:00 >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> *Joe DeMers - owner* >>>> >>>> Sound Marine Diesel LLC >>>> >>>> SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> >>>> >>>> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG -www.avg.com >>> Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3571 - Release Date: 04/13/11 03:09:00 >>> >> >> -- >> >> *Joe DeMers - owner* >> >> Sound Marine Diesel LLC >> >> SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> >> >> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* >> > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3571 - Release Date: 04/13/11 03:09:00 > -- *Joe DeMers - owner* Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184*

Hello done, They are great boats, good sailing, comfortable and they will surf. Definately a "keeper". Many have raced Transpac, cruised Mexico and beyond. Hull # 1 Rosebud just did the Ba Ha Ha this year San Diego to Cabo San Lucus. Go to the Yahoo Groups site to see photos (lots) of several 36s. Cheers Mike Holiday Cal 36 hull #4 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: do… [at] usa.com Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:23:40 -0400 Subject: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from do… [at] usa.com included below] I've run into a fellow who has become feed up with a project boat and will let it go for next to nothing. It is a 1968 Cal 36. He removed the engine which was an obscure manufacturer and had bought and planned to install a Yanmar 3qm30 until the yard told him that the engine was really too big and the fitting very expensive. He has had the rigging redone and the wiring changed but not connected. Sanded and painted the bottom and topsides. It is on the eastern shore of Md.. It is a beautiful boat as Bill Lapsworth designs appear to be. It is not the cruising version. The interior seems ample, the yard owners claims the hull is sound but interior needs a lot of work. The boat has promise. I have included a couple of pictures. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with this boat. How are they to sail and maintain.Can it be used offshore? It weighs less than my E32. I am thinking of moving up in size. Would it be worth the trouble. If I choose not to get her, would anyone be interested on taking her on? Attachment(s) from do… [at] usa.com 2 of 2 Photo(s) 20334_100832503284269_100000725587153_21659_8175250_n.jpg 20334_100833349950851_100000725587153_21694_2483861_n.jpg

The 36 is very much like a 40 that's had it's callipygian stern tucked. As I recall, the interior space is much the same between the two, and the sailing characteristic are similar. 36 has smaller cockpit. Someone (Fin?) once explained why the 36 has a double spreader rig, but I have forgotten the rationale. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Robinson Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:25 PM To: Cal boats List Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 [2 Attachments] (doneright) Hello done, They are great boats, good sailing, comfortable and they will surf. Definately a "keeper". Many have raced Transpac, cruised Mexico and beyond. Hull # 1 Rosebud just did the Ba Ha Ha this year San Diego to Cabo San Lucus. Go to the Yahoo Groups site to see photos (lots) of several 36s. Cheers Mike Holiday Cal 36 hull #4 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: do… [at] usa.com Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:23:40 -0400 Subject: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s)<http://sn116w.snt116.mail.live.com/mail/RteFrame.html?v=15.4.3092.0322&pf=pf#TopText> from do… [at] usa.com included below] I've run into a fellow who has become feed up with a project boat and will let it go for next to nothing. It is a 1968 Cal 36. He removed the engine which was an obscure manufacturer and had bought and planned to install a Yanmar 3qm30 until the yard told him that the engine was really too big and the fitting very expensive. He has had the rigging redone and the wiring changed but not connected. Sanded and painted the bottom and topsides. It is on the eastern shore of Md.. It is a beautiful boat as Bill Lapsworth designs appear to be. It is not the cruising version. The interior seems ample, the yard owners claims the hull is sound but interior needs a lot of work. The boat has promise. I have included a couple of pictures. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with this boat. How are they to sail and maintain.Can it be used offshore? It weighs less than my E32. I am thinking of moving up in size. Would it be worth the trouble. If I choose not to get her, would anyone be interested on taking her on? Attachment(s) from do… [at] usa.com 2 of 2 Photo(s) [http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/16485695/tn/2101297438]<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/1821732386/item/2101297438/view> 20334_100832503284269_100000725587153_21659_8175250_n.jpg<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/1821732386/item/2101297438/view> [http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/16485695/tn/647454533]<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/1821732386/item/647454533/view> 20334_100833349950851_100000725587153_21694_2483861_n.jpg<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/1821732386/item/647454533/view>

I think the 36 has a lighter mast section than the 40. I'm told the Cruising 36 went back to the 40's mast section and it also is a single spreader rig, vs the double spreader rig of the standard 36. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: hu… [at] bah.com Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:44:23 -0400 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 [2 Attachments] (doneright) The 36 is very much like a 40 that's had it's callipygian stern tucked. As I recall, the interior space is much the same between the two, and the sailing characteristic are similar. 36 has smaller cockpit. Someone (Fin?) once explained why the 36 has a double spreader rig, but I have forgotten the rationale. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Robinson Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:25 PM To: Cal boats List Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 [2 Attachments] (doneright) Hello done, They are great boats, good sailing, comfortable and they will surf. Definately a "keeper". Many have raced Transpac, cruised Mexico and beyond. Hull # 1 Rosebud just did the Ba Ha Ha this year San Diego to Cabo San Lucus. Go to the Yahoo Groups site to see photos (lots) of several 36s. Cheers Mike Holiday Cal 36 hull #4 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: do… [at] usa.com Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:23:40 -0400 Subject: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from do… [at] usa.com included below] I've run into a fellow who has become feed up with a project boat and will let it go for next to nothing. It is a 1968 Cal 36. He removed the engine which was an obscure manufacturer and had bought and planned to install a Yanmar 3qm30 until the yard told him that the engine was really too big and the fitting very expensive. He has had the rigging redone and the wiring changed but not connected. Sanded and painted the bottom and topsides. It is on the eastern shore of Md.. It is a beautiful boat as Bill Lapsworth designs appear to be. It is not the cruising version. The interior seems ample, the yard owners claims the hull is sound but interior needs a lot of work. The boat has promise. I have included a couple of pictures. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with this boat. How are they to sail and maintain.Can it be used offshore? It weighs less than my E32. I am thinking of moving up in size. Would it be worth the trouble. If I choose not to get her, would anyone be interested on taking her on? Attachment(s) from do… [at] usa.com 2 of 2 Photo(s) 20334_100832503284269_100000725587153_21659_8175250_n.jpg 20334_100833349950851_100000725587153_21694_2483861_n.jpg

The 36 does have a smaller section, I've heard same as the 34. Also chainplates are inboard along the house so it has a shallow angle. Mike To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: my… [at] hotmail.com Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:35:37 -0600 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 [2 Attachments] (doneright) I think the 36 has a lighter mast section than the 40. I'm told the Cruising 36 went back to the 40's mast section and it also is a single spreader rig, vs the double spreader rig of the standard 36. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: hu… [at] bah.com Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:44:23 -0400 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 [2 Attachments] (doneright) The 36 is very much like a 40 that's had it's callipygian stern tucked. As I recall, the interior space is much the same between the two, and the sailing characteristic are similar. 36 has smaller cockpit. Someone (Fin?) once explained why the 36 has a double spreader rig, but I have forgotten the rationale. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Robinson Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:25 PM To: Cal boats List Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 [2 Attachments] (doneright) Hello done, They are great boats, good sailing, comfortable and they will surf. Definately a "keeper". Many have raced Transpac, cruised Mexico and beyond. Hull # 1 Rosebud just did the Ba Ha Ha this year San Diego to Cabo San Lucus. Go to the Yahoo Groups site to see photos (lots) of several 36s. Cheers Mike Holiday Cal 36 hull #4 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: do… [at] usa.com Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:23:40 -0400 Subject: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from do… [at] usa.com included below] I've run into a fellow who has become feed up with a project boat and will let it go for next to nothing. It is a 1968 Cal 36. He removed the engine which was an obscure manufacturer and had bought and planned to install a Yanmar 3qm30 until the yard told him that the engine was really too big and the fitting very expensive. He has had the rigging redone and the wiring changed but not connected. Sanded and painted the bottom and topsides. It is on the eastern shore of Md.. It is a beautiful boat as Bill Lapsworth designs appear to be. It is not the cruising version. The interior seems ample, the yard owners claims the hull is sound but interior needs a lot of work. The boat has promise. I have included a couple of pictures. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with this boat. How are they to sail and maintain.Can it be used offshore? It weighs less than my E32. I am thinking of moving up in size. Would it be worth the trouble. If I choose not to get her, would anyone be interested on taking her on? Attachment(s) from do… [at] usa.com 2 of 2 Photo(s) 20334_100832503284269_100000725587153_21659_8175250_n.jpg 20334_100833349950851_100000725587153_21694_2483861_n.jpg

it's a 3qm30 not gm, quite a bit larger --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, mike <mike@...> wrote: > > She looks like a mini-40 and seems to have a very nice paint job. I > think the yard is trying to hustle something because a Yanmar 3gm is not > too big for a 36. Sounds like they were trying to hustle the big(ger) > bucks. Modifying the exhaust system will be a pain but no more so than > for any other engine If the rig is sound and winches all there, you may > have yourself a winner. IF you aren't afraid of a little work and can > spare the time to do it. > > On 4/13/2011 12:23 AM, doneright@... wrote: > > [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from doneright@... included below] > > > > I've run into a fellow who has become feed up with a project boat and > > will let it go for next to nothing. It is a 1968 Cal 36. He removed > > the engine which was an obscure manufacturer and had bought and > > planned to install a Yanmar 3qm30 until the yard told him that the > > engine was really too big and the fitting very expensive. He has had > > the rigging redone and the wiring changed but not connected. Sanded > > and painted the bottom and topsides. It is on the eastern shore of > > Md.. It is a beautiful boat as Bill Lapsworth designs appear to be. It > > is not the cruising version. The interior seems ample, the yard owners > > claims the hull is sound but interior needs a lot of work. The boat > > has promise. I have included a couple of pictures. I was wondering if > > anyone has had any experience with this boat. How are they to sail and > > maintain.Can it be used offshore? It weighs less than my E32. I am > > thinking of moving up in size. Would it be worth the trouble. If I > > choose not to get her, would anyone be interested on taking her on? > > > > > > Attachment(s) from doneright@... > > > > 2 of 2 Photo(s) > > > > 20334_100832503284269_100000725587153_21659_8175250_n.jpg > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/1821732386/item/2101297438/view> > > 20334_100832503284269_100000725587153_21659_8175250_n.jpg > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/1821732386/item/2101297438/view> > > 20334_100833349950851_100000725587153_21694_2483861_n.jpg > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/1821732386/item/647454533/view> > > 20334_100833349950851_100000725587153_21694_2483861_n.jpg > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/1821732386/item/647454533/view> > > > > >

Well, i can get the yanmar engine in good shape for $2500. do you know anyone who is interested? --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Joe DeMers <jedsail@...> wrote: > > The old Yanmar QM series [ 2 and 3 cylinder engines ] had the common > fault of cracking heads. An uncracked head is worth $, as no new heads > are available from Yanmar. The QM series were available in raw water and > fresh water cooled versions. > > We have sold several new Beta Marine engines to replace the old QM > series engines, due to the head cracking / no new heads available problem. > > *Joe DeMers - owner* > > Sound Marine Diesel LLC > > SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> > > *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* > > > On 4/13/2011 9:36 AM, mike wrote: > > > > > > Ah. Thought that was a typo, but you're right; the 3QM is a lot bigger > > than the 3GM. I've only seen a couple and they were old saltwater > > cooled chunks of rust. On the bright side, maybe he can convert the > > engine for use on his lawn tractor? > > > > On 4/13/2011 9:30 AM, Joe DeMers wrote: > >> The 3QM engine is a big chunk of iron, [ not built for several > >> decades ] not to be confused with the much smaller and lighter 3GM > >> series engines. > >> > >> Joe D > >> > >> On 4/13/2011 7:54 AM, mike wrote: > >>> She looks like a mini-40 and seems to have a very nice paint job. I > >>> think the yard is trying to hustle something because a Yanmar 3gm is > >>> not too big for a 36. Sounds like they were trying to hustle the > >>> big(ger) bucks. Modifying the exhaust system will be a pain but no > >>> more so than for any other engine If the rig is sound and winches > >>> all there, you may have yourself a winner. IF you aren't afraid of a > >>> little work and can spare the time to do it. > >>> > >>> On 4/13/2011 12:23 AM, doneright@... wrote: > >>>> I've run into a fellow who has become feed up with a project boat > >>>> and will let it go for next to nothing. It is a 1968 Cal 36. He > >>>> removed the engine which was an obscure manufacturer and had bought > >>>> and planned to install a Yanmar 3qm30 until the yard told him that > >>>> the engine was really too big and the fitting very expensive. He > >>>> has had the rigging redone and the wiring changed but not > >>>> connected. Sanded and painted the bottom and topsides. It is on > >>>> the eastern shore of Md.. It is a beautiful boat as Bill Lapsworth > >>>> designs appear to be. It is not the cruising version. The interior > >>>> seems ample, the yard owners claims the hull is sound but interior > >>>> needs a lot of work. The boat has promise. I have included a > >>>> couple of pictures. I was wondering if anyone has had any > >>>> experience with this boat. How are they to sail and maintain.Can it > >>>> be used offshore? It weighs less than my E32. I am thinking of > >>>> moving up in size. Would it be worth the trouble. If I choose not > >>>> to get her, would anyone be interested on taking her on? > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>> Checked by AVG -www.avg.com > >>> Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3571 - Release Date: 04/13/11 03:09:00 > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> *Joe DeMers - owner* > >> > >> Sound Marine Diesel LLC > >> > >> SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> > >> > >> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3571 - Release Date: 04/13/11 03:09:00 > > > > -- > > *Joe DeMers - owner* > > Sound Marine Diesel LLC > > SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> > > *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* >

You can always advertise on the yanmar yahoo group and craigslist. Best of luck /ch On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:27 PM, diguerrilla <do… [at] usa.com> wrote: > Well, i can get the yanmar engine in good shape for $2500. do you know anyone who is interested? >

On 4/13/2011 7:27 PM, diguerrilla wrote: > Well, i can get the yanmar engine in good shape for $2500. ****** Do you mean you can buy a good engine for this price, or do you mean you can put $2500 into your present engine to make it worth buying? > do you know anyone who is interested? ****** What is the exact engine model designation? Is it complete with transmission and control panel? What is not included? *Joe DeMers - owner* Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Joe DeMers<jedsail@...> wrote: >> The old Yanmar QM series [ 2 and 3 cylinder engines ] had the common >> fault of cracking heads. An uncracked head is worth $, as no new heads >> are available from Yanmar. The QM series were available in raw water and >> fresh water cooled versions. >> >> We have sold several new Beta Marine engines to replace the old QM >> series engines, due to the head cracking / no new heads available problem. >> >> *Joe DeMers - owner* >> >> Sound Marine Diesel LLC >> >> SoundMarineDiesel.com<http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> >> >> *phone& fax (860) 666-2184* >> >> >> On 4/13/2011 9:36 AM, mike wrote: >>> >>> Ah. Thought that was a typo, but you're right; the 3QM is a lot bigger >>> than the 3GM. I've only seen a couple and they were old saltwater >>> cooled chunks of rust. On the bright side, maybe he can convert the >>> engine for use on his lawn tractor? >>> >>> On 4/13/2011 9:30 AM, Joe DeMers wrote: >>>> The 3QM engine is a big chunk of iron, [ not built for several >>>> decades ] not to be confused with the much smaller and lighter 3GM >>>> series engines. >>>> >>>> Joe D >>>> >>>> On 4/13/2011 7:54 AM, mike wrote: >>>>> She looks like a mini-40 and seems to have a very nice paint job. I >>>>> think the yard is trying to hustle something because a Yanmar 3gm is >>>>> not too big for a 36. Sounds like they were trying to hustle the >>>>> big(ger) bucks. Modifying the exhaust system will be a pain but no >>>>> more so than for any other engine If the rig is sound and winches >>>>> all there, you may have yourself a winner. IF you aren't afraid of a >>>>> little work and can spare the time to do it. >>>>> >>>>> On 4/13/2011 12:23 AM, doneright@... wrote: >>>>>> I've run into a fellow who has become feed up with a project boat >>>>>> and will let it go for next to nothing. It is a 1968 Cal 36. He >>>>>> removed the engine which was an obscure manufacturer and had bought >>>>>> and planned to install a Yanmar 3qm30 until the yard told him that >>>>>> the engine was really too big and the fitting very expensive. He >>>>>> has had the rigging redone and the wiring changed but not >>>>>> connected. Sanded and painted the bottom and topsides. It is on >>>>>> the eastern shore of Md.. It is a beautiful boat as Bill Lapsworth >>>>>> designs appear to be. It is not the cruising version. The interior >>>>>> seems ample, the yard owners claims the hull is sound but interior >>>>>> needs a lot of work. The boat has promise. I have included a >>>>>> couple of pictures. I was wondering if anyone has had any >>>>>> experience with this boat. How are they to sail and maintain.Can it >>>>>> be used offshore? It weighs less than my E32. I am thinking of >>>>>> moving up in size. Would it be worth the trouble. If I choose not >>>>>> to get her, would anyone be interested on taking her on? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG -www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3571 - Release Date: 04/13/11 03:09:00 >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> *Joe DeMers - owner* >>>> >>>> Sound Marine Diesel LLC >>>> >>>> SoundMarineDiesel.com<http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> >>>> >>>> *phone& fax (860) 666-2184* >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3571 - Release Date: 04/13/11 03:09:00 >>> >> -- >> >> *Joe DeMers - owner* >> >> Sound Marine Diesel LLC >> >> SoundMarineDiesel.com<http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> >> >> *phone& fax (860) 666-2184* >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3572 - Release Date: 04/13/11 14:34:00 > -- *Joe DeMers - owner* Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184*

I finally saw the boat yesterday. The hull is really beautiful. New bottom paint, decent topsides and no blisters or soft spots. Once I got on deck it was a whole other story. Huge holes in the cabin entranceway where the guy put enough speakers to fill a concert hall (same in bulkhead). The rigging seemed underbuilt and the forestay is frayed halfway up. Down below, there is the usual water in bilge and it seems fair to okay looking forward (besides holes in bulkhead) but looking aft there are unmarked new wires everywhere and a huge hole where an engine once sat. This boat is a big project boat, but the owner is ready to give her away. There seems to be little rhyme or reason to the way the previous work was approached, but if anyone is looking for a challenge and has the skillset to fix this boat up, she could be a sweet boat. Oh yea, she is a shoal draft version drawing less than 5 ft.

Shame. Could have mounted the speakers to the back of the bulkhead with no holes, and resonated the whole boat. As a sub-woofer, the hull works very well. Could drive everyone else on the water nuts. Those damn big round holes in the bulkheads are hard to fix in a pretty fashion. Anybody have ideas on how to do it best? Most pretty solutions involve painting. Then other parts look ugly. I have some bulkhead holes to fill and don't want to repaint everything. I am also abysmal at matching gelcoat - a true art when a boat is getting older. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of do… [at] usa.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:02 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 I finally saw the boat yesterday. The hull is really beautiful. New bottom paint, decent topsides and no blisters or soft spots. Once I got on deck it was a whole other story. Huge holes in the cabin entranceway where the guy put enough speakers to fill a concert hall (same in bulkhead). The rigging seemed underbuilt and the forestay is frayed halfway up. Down below, there is the usual water in bilge and it seems fair to okay looking forward (besides holes in bulkhead) but looking aft there are unmarked new wires everywhere and a huge hole where an engine once sat. This boat is a big project boat, but the owner is ready to give her away. There seems to be little rhyme or reason to the way the previous work was approached, but if anyone is looking for a challenge and has the skillset to fix this boat up, she could be a sweet boat. Oh yea, she is a shoal draft version drawing less than 5 ft.

Speaker holes - mount a Dr. LED surface mount red/white light on both sides cabin and closet or head. Cheers, Timm Lessley (Sent from Blackberry) (503) 863-4019 From: Husar, Charlie [USA] [mailto:hu… [at] bah.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 07:10 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 Shame. Could have mounted the speakers to the back of the bulkhead with no holes, and resonated the whole boat. As a sub-woofer, the hull works very well. Could drive everyone else on the water nuts. Those damn big round holes in the bulkheads are hard to fix in a pretty fashion. Anybody have ideas on how to do it best? Most pretty solutions involve painting. Then other parts look ugly. I have some bulkhead holes to fill and don't want to repaint everything. I am also abysmal at matching gelcoat - a true art when a boat is getting older. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of do… [at] usa.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:02 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 I finally saw the boat yesterday. The hull is really beautiful. New bottom paint, decent topsides and no blisters or soft spots. Once I got on deck it was a whole other story. Huge holes in the cabin entranceway where the guy put enough speakers to fill a concert hall (same in bulkhead). The rigging seemed underbuilt and the forestay is frayed halfway up. Down below, there is the usual water in bilge and it seems fair to okay looking forward (besides holes in bulkhead) but looking aft there are unmarked new wires everywhere and a huge hole where an engine once sat. This boat is a big project boat, but the owner is ready to give her away. There seems to be little rhyme or reason to the way the previous work was approached, but if anyone is looking for a challenge and has the skillset to fix this boat up, she could be a sweet boat. Oh yea, she is a shoal draft version drawing less than 5 ft.

Timm, I was thinking about the exterior of the fiberglas bulkhead in the cockpit. Where one would typically mount compasses and the like. I've seen speakers mounted in weird places. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ti… [at] ch2m.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:44 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 Speaker holes - mount a Dr. LED surface mount red/white light on both sides cabin and closet or head. Cheers, Timm Lessley (Sent from Blackberry) (503) 863-4019 From: Husar, Charlie [USA] [mailto:hu… [at] bah.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 07:10 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 Shame. Could have mounted the speakers to the back of the bulkhead with no holes, and resonated the whole boat. As a sub-woofer, the hull works very well. Could drive everyone else on the water nuts. Those damn big round holes in the bulkheads are hard to fix in a pretty fashion. Anybody have ideas on how to do it best? Most pretty solutions involve painting. Then other parts look ugly. I have some bulkhead holes to fill and don't want to repaint everything. I am also abysmal at matching gelcoat - a true art when a boat is getting older. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of do… [at] usa.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:02 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 I finally saw the boat yesterday. The hull is really beautiful. New bottom paint, decent topsides and no blisters or soft spots. Once I got on deck it was a whole other story. Huge holes in the cabin entranceway where the guy put enough speakers to fill a concert hall (same in bulkhead). The rigging seemed underbuilt and the forestay is frayed halfway up. Down below, there is the usual water in bilge and it seems fair to okay looking forward (besides holes in bulkhead) but looking aft there are unmarked new wires everywhere and a huge hole where an engine once sat. This boat is a big project boat, but the owner is ready to give her away. There seems to be little rhyme or reason to the way the previous work was approached, but if anyone is looking for a challenge and has the skillset to fix this boat up, she could be a sweet boat. Oh yea, she is a shoal draft version drawing less than 5 ft.

Teak or equivalent hardwood or starboard are the nicest solutions Ive seen Charley. Filling then with glass and gel coat is a very precise type of work as you know. Painting is rarely a good option unless you use a two part paint system and do the entire decks and cockpit. That's both expensive and a lot of work. For solutions that look good typically scower yachtworld as there are a ton of images there. Symmetrical teak (or equivalent) well varnished actually looks good pending your taste. /ch On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Husar, Charlie [USA] <hu… [at] bah.com > wrote: > > > Shame. Could have mounted the speakers to the back of the bulkhead with no > holes, and resonated the whole boat. As a sub-woofer, the hull works very > well. Could drive everyone else on the water nuts. > > Those damn big round holes in the bulkheads are hard to fix in a pretty > fashion. Anybody have ideas on how to do it best? Most pretty solutions > involve painting. Then other parts look ugly. I have some bulkhead holes > to fill and don't want to repaint everything. I am also abysmal at matching > gelcoat - a true art when a boat is getting older. > > Cheers > Charlie > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *do… [at] usa.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:02 PM > *To:* ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] cal 36 > > I finally saw the boat yesterday. The hull is really beautiful. New bottom > > paint, decent topsides and no blisters or soft spots. Once I got on deck it > > was a whole other story. Huge holes in the cabin entranceway where the guy > > put enough speakers to fill a concert hall (same in bulkhead). The rigging > > seemed underbuilt and the forestay is frayed halfway up. Down below, there > > is the usual water in bilge and it seems fair to okay looking forward > > (besides holes in bulkhead) but looking aft there are unmarked new wires > > everywhere and a huge hole where an engine once sat. This boat is a big > > project boat, but the owner is ready to give her away. There seems to be > > little rhyme or reason to the way the previous work was approached, but if > > anyone is looking for a challenge and has the skillset to fix this boat up, > > she could be a sweet boat. Oh yea, she is a shoal draft version drawing less > > than 5 ft. > > > > > > > -- /ch

I make a disk of around 13 ply okume and glue it in with West 610 then fair it in with the west fairing filler. Once all soothed in I rattle can the bulkhead with white refrigerator epoxy. Un detectable. Other solutions include a deck plate. Cheers, Timm Lessley (Sent from Blackberry) (503) 863-4019 From: Husar, Charlie [USA] [mailto:hu… [at] bah.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 07:56 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 Timm, I was thinking about the exterior of the fiberglas bulkhead in the cockpit. Where one would typically mount compasses and the like. I've seen speakers mounted in weird places. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ti… [at] ch2m.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:44 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 Speaker holes - mount a Dr. LED surface mount red/white light on both sides cabin and closet or head. Cheers, Timm Lessley (Sent from Blackberry) (503) 863-4019 From: Husar, Charlie [USA] [mailto:hu… [at] bah.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 07:10 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 Shame. Could have mounted the speakers to the back of the bulkhead with no holes, and resonated the whole boat. As a sub-woofer, the hull works very well. Could drive everyone else on the water nuts. Those damn big round holes in the bulkheads are hard to fix in a pretty fashion. Anybody have ideas on how to do it best? Most pretty solutions involve painting. Then other parts look ugly. I have some bulkhead holes to fill and don't want to repaint everything. I am also abysmal at matching gelcoat - a true art when a boat is getting older. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of do… [at] usa.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:02 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 I finally saw the boat yesterday. The hull is really beautiful. New bottom paint, decent topsides and no blisters or soft spots. Once I got on deck it was a whole other story. Huge holes in the cabin entranceway where the guy put enough speakers to fill a concert hall (same in bulkhead). The rigging seemed underbuilt and the forestay is frayed halfway up. Down below, there is the usual water in bilge and it seems fair to okay looking forward (besides holes in bulkhead) but looking aft there are unmarked new wires everywhere and a huge hole where an engine once sat. This boat is a big project boat, but the owner is ready to give her away. There seems to be little rhyme or reason to the way the previous work was approached, but if anyone is looking for a challenge and has the skillset to fix this boat up, she could be a sweet boat. Oh yea, she is a shoal draft version drawing less than 5 ft.