20 messages2006-02-15 14:50 UTCthrough 2011-04-21 18:04 UTC
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 36
mt… [at] cox.net2006-02-15 14:50 UTC
There is a guy on the same dock with me, in San Pedro, with a nicely restored
Cal 336. I had a look at it a couple of weeks ago. If you are in Southern
California you might go by to have a look and talk to him. I also know of one
in Richmond, in the Bay Area.
MIke Kennedy
Conquest Cal 40 # 96
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> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 36
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 36
Larry Knowles2006-02-15 17:19 UTC
Is that Cal in San Pedro a Cal 36 or a Cal Cruising 36? Do you remember
the boats name or the owner? I'm trying to update my list.
Larry
S/V "Seastead" (Cal Cruising 36) Kemah, TX
RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 36
Husar Charlie2006-02-15 17:44 UTC
Jim Mumper in Annapolis has a very nice 36 (not a C). Looks like a 40
with a butt tuck and double spreaders. He can also make it perform (an
excelent sailor). He used to be on this list. I can contact him if you
like.
Cheers
Charlie
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Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 36
Is that Cal in San Pedro a Cal 36 or a Cal Cruising 36? Do you remember
the boats name or the owner? I'm trying to update my list.
Larry
S/V "Seastead" (Cal Cruising 36) Kemah, TX
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 36
Larry Knowles2006-02-15 17:58 UTC
Thanks, Charlie, I already have him on my Cal 36 list.
RE:Cal 36(Dave Brown)
Michael Robinson2006-02-15 18:17 UTC
Dave,
I own 1966 Cal36 # 4. Great sailing boat. They will surf. Jim Mumper in MD tells me he hit 14 knts. I've done 9 knts. on SF Bay just reaching, no kite. Well built boats. Like all Cals with plastic liner the iron beam under the liner (under the mast) is subject corrosion.
Mike Robinson
Cal 36 Hull #4
Pt Richmond, CA
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Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 36
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:44:12 -0500
Jim Mumper in Annapolis has a very nice 36 (not a C). Looks like a 40
with a butt tuck and double spreaders. He can also make it perform (an
excelent sailor). He used to be on this list. I can contact him if you
like.
Cheers
Charlie
Miami Boat Show
Michael D2006-02-15 19:43 UTC
Hello Listees,
We'll be at Strictly Sail this Saturday... in the pursuit of a good deal for new sails.
If anyone on the list will be there, perhaps we can get together for a cold drink.
Regards,
Michael Duvall
s/v Magic, Cal 2-27
Pompano Beach, FL
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Re: [Cal_Boats] RE:Cal 36(Dave Brown)
Dave and Cathy2006-02-15 20:59 UTC
Thanks Mike,
The last thing I want is a big sea cow. 1966 to now they have to have been built good . Friday I go to look at the boat.
Dave Brown
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Subject: [Cal_Boats] RE:Cal 36(Dave Brown)
Dave,
I own 1966 Cal36 # 4. Great sailing boat. They will surf. Jim Mumper in MD tells me he hit 14 knts. I've done 9 knts. on SF Bay just reaching, no kite. Well built boats. Like all Cals with plastic liner the iron beam under the liner (under the mast) is subject corrosion.
Mike Robinson
Cal 36 Hull #4
Pt Richmond, CA
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Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 36
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:44:12 -0500
Jim Mumper in Annapolis has a very nice 36 (not a C). Looks like a 40
with a butt tuck and double spreaders. He can also make it perform (an
excelent sailor). He used to be on this list. I can contact him if you
like.
Cheers
Charlie
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Miami Boat Show
richard beliveau2006-02-15 22:40 UTC
Carol and I have tickets, but I'm not sure of what
day. If we can we'll meet up.
Rich
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> We'll be at Strictly Sail this Saturday... in the
> pursuit of a good deal for new sails.
>
> If anyone on the list will be there, perhaps we
> can get together for a cold drink.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael Duvall
> s/v Magic, Cal 2-27
> Pompano Beach, FL
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Spinnaker Sheets - Recommendations Input Wanted (All)
Michael D2006-03-17 20:58 UTC
Hello Cal Cruisers and Racers,
The season is starting soon here. Running rigging on Magic is being upgraded and/or replaced....
I'm looking for your input as to the line size, make (New England, Samson, Yale), snap shackles, etc. to use for spinnaker sheets. The combinations are almost infinite.
Thanks,
Michael Duvall
s/v Magic, Cal 2-27
Pompano Beach, FL
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Re: Spinnaker Sheets - Recommendations Input Wanted (All)
mtkennedy12006-03-17 21:05
--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Michael D <mddfl@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Cal Cruisers and Racers,
>
> The season is starting soon here. Running rigging on Magic is being upgraded and/or
replaced....
>
> I'm looking for your input as to the line size, make (New England, Samson, Yale), snap
shackles, etc. to use for spinnaker sheets. The combinations are almost infinite.
I got an e-mail notice that West Marine is running a big sale on cordage today. 40% off.
Mike Kennedy
Conquest Cal 40 # 96
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Michael Duvall
> s/v Magic, Cal 2-27
> Pompano Beach, FL
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Spinnaker Sheets - Recommendations Input Wanted (All)
Fin Beven2006-03-17 21:40 UTC
I've had great luck with the folks at LayLine in No. Carolina.
Talk to Henry Mallard if he's available. He'll know what to use on your 2-27. If Henry's not available, you can talk to just about anybody there. They are all quite knowledgeable. 1-800-542-5463; www.layline.com<http://www.layline.com/>.
What we've found on Radiant that it is nice to have very good quality gear, but we take a little extra time to take good care of it. For example, we get extra years of service from our "good" halyards by taking them down and replacing them with tracer-lines if we're not going to be using them for a few weeks. It makes no more sense to leave good halyards out in the elements than it would to leave your sheets out.
For snap-shackles, I really like the Tylaska's, as they can be opened and closed with one hand. Our halyards are tapered: 1/4" spectra for the working part (shapshackle to the winch), and 3/8" polyester for the tails. Yours, of course, would be smaller diameter. Henry will know.
Fin Beven
Cal-40 #24
Radiant
San Pedro, CA
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Subject: [Cal_Boats] Spinnaker Sheets - Recommendations Input Wanted (All)
Hello Cal Cruisers and Racers,
The season is starting soon here. Running rigging on Magic is being upgraded and/or replaced....
I'm looking for your input as to the line size, make (New England, Samson, Yale), snap shackles, etc. to use for spinnaker sheets. The combinations are almost infinite.
Thanks,
Michael Duvall
s/v Magic, Cal 2-27
Pompano Beach, FL
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Spinnaker Sheets - Recommendations Input Wanted (All)
John Boyce2006-03-17 21:55 UTC
On my 2-27 I use a 3/8 Dacron line for my sheets, the one I have now is New
England Ropes but I have used Samson on another boat, the feel on the hands
is the most important thing, I also have a set of light weight sheets these
are ¼ in diameter although some people I know use smaller diameter lines
that turn into knives when the wind pipes up a little bit. On both sets of
sheets I use a good quality snap shackle (Schafer?) a smaller one on the
light air sheets. I place a disk on the line after the knot at the shackle
to prevent the knot from being pulled into the Spinn pole fitting, a piece
of ¼ Nylon sheet can be drilled with a 2 hole saw to make these. Tweekers
are a wonderful addition to the running rigging for these I use holt-allen
small snatch blocks led to the deck with 3/16 or smaller line through a
Harken Bullet Block back to a cleat on the outside of the cockpit coming. I
originally had 5/16 Sta-set X for my halyard I now use Sta-set since
stretch didnt seem like a major issue. My Spinn halyard was rigged
internally for three weeks but as I hound that additional friction led to
more difficulty dropping the chute it is now external. My Spin pole bridle
is mostly made of wire but after getting some fishhooks in one section I
replaced it with a piece of 1/8 line that is actually stronger than the
wire, this has worked well for the last two seasons and I will be switch all
of my bridle lines to this material as they wear out.
John Boyce
CAL 2-27
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Subject: [Cal_Boats] Spinnaker Sheets - Recommendations Input Wanted (All)
Hello Cal Cruisers and Racers,
The season is starting soon here. Running rigging on Magic is being
upgraded and/or replaced....
I'm looking for your input as to the line size, make (New England, Samson,
Yale), snap shackles, etc. to use for spinnaker sheets. The combinations
are almost infinite.
Thanks,
Michael Duvall
s/v Magic, Cal 2-27
Pompano Beach, FL
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Spinnaker Sheets - Recommendations Input Wanted (All)
John Boyce2006-03-17 23:39 UTC
West Marine is having a 40% off sale on line until 8:00 pm EST on their web
site - limited size and color
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Subject: [Cal_Boats] Spinnaker Sheets - Recommendations Input Wanted (All)
Hello Cal Cruisers and Racers,
The season is starting soon here. Running rigging on Magic is being
upgraded and/or replaced....
I'm looking for your input as to the line size, make (New England, Samson,
Yale), snap shackles, etc. to use for spinnaker sheets. The combinations
are almost infinite.
Thanks,
Michael Duvall
s/v Magic, Cal 2-27
Pompano Beach, FL
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Re: Spinnaker Sheets -No to snap shackles
Bill2006-03-19 04:19
Length of the boat plus 5 feet for each side. Don't use regular snap
shackles on a spinnaker sheet or afterguy. Go the extra and buy trigger
release snap shackles. They won't open on you when you don't want them
to.
Bill
CAL T/2
RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spinnaker Sheets -No to snap shackles
John Boyce2006-03-20 00:56 UTC
I've been using snap shackles on my spin sheets and after 26 years I have
never had one come open on a sheet, I have been on a boat where the Jib
halyard came open due to too long of a lanyard and a loose halyard. The
biggest problem we have is getting someone tall enough to reach the lanyard
on the guy so we can blow the chute. The length must be more than twice the
boat length so that a) you can easily relead the sheet and B) so you can get
the trimmer out of the cockpit and balance the boat properly. The 227
diesel version is stern heavy and needs to get some weight forward.
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Length of the boat plus 5 feet for each side. Don't use regular snap
shackles on a spinnaker sheet or afterguy. Go the extra and buy trigger
release snap shackles. They won't open on you when you don't want them
to.
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Michael D2006-03-23 19:38 UTC
Listees,
Anyone know how Mr. Lapworth is fairing? I remember a while back some discussion that he was ill....
Regards,
Michael Duvall
s/v Magic, Cal 2-27
Pompano Beach, FL
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Boom Repair/Painting
Michael D2006-04-13 13:15 UTC
Ahoy Sailors and Listees,
I just removed the boom from Magic.... It will be sanded down and repainted, however there are several screw holes from hardware that was removed/changed-out over the years by previous owners. I plan on closing them up before painting. Can these holes closed by welding, or is the boom too thin of a guage for that? Is thickened epoxy an option?
Recommendations, suggestions, and/or comments are greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Michael Duvall
s/v Magic, Cal 2-27
Pompano Beach, FL
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Boom Repair/Painting
Alan Storey2006-04-13 17:07 UTC
Michael,
I did this to my mast and boom last year. Took them to my shop and
filled about 250 holes with my TIG welder. Some of the holes were 1" x
3" squares cut out for turning blocks and various stuff. Ground and
sanded it all down and then repainted the whole 9 yards (actually 17)
with 8 coats of the new interlux pefection 2 part LP process including
a vinyl etching and 2 filler coats. It came out like a million
bucks....
If you weld it, get the welder to do only a few hole at a time in any
given area at a time so as not to build up the heat too much in the
section. The aluminum will lose its temper a bit, but will come back
with time hardening...
Everyone in my marina thinks we have a brand new mast.
Alan Storey
Cal 3-30 'Chimera'
Vancouver B.C.
On 13-Apr-06, at 6:15 AM, Michael D wrote:
> Ahoy Sailors and Listees,
>
> I just removed the boom from Magic.... It will be sanded down and
> repainted, however there are several screw holes from hardware that
> was removed/changed-out over the years by previous owners. I plan on
> closing them up before painting. Can these holes closed by welding,
> or is the boom too thin of a guage for that? Is thickened epoxy an
> option?
>
> Recommendations, suggestions, and/or comments are greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Michael Duvall
> s/v Magic, Cal 2-27
> Pompano Beach, FL
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Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 36
pw… [at] aol.com2011-04-21 14:20 UTC
Charlie -
Its a hike for you to get there, but when I was repairing the mast step in
my old CS 30 I took a piece over to Composite Yachts, just your side of
the Choptank Bridge and they hooked me up with a quart of gelcoat which they
matched for me, 2 or 3 of those little sprayers and something else (I
forget now what it was) for $20. I couldn't believe it. I literally walked in,
spoke to the owner and he hooked me up with his paint guy right then and
he did a little mixing and dried a sample and got it spot on the first try.
I used to mix paint at an old hardware store before the computer matching
machines and it is no easy task, especially with "off" whites. I think I
was in and out in less than 20 min.
Needless to say, I was impressed.
Paul
In a message dated 4/20/2011 9:11:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
hu… [at] bah.com writes:
Shame. Could have mounted the speakers to the back of the bulkhead with
no holes, and resonated the whole boat. As a sub-woofer, the hull works
very well. Could drive everyone else on the water nuts.
Those damn big round holes in the bulkheads are hard to fix in a pretty
fashion. Anybody have ideas on how to do it best? Most pretty solutions
involve painting. Then other parts look ugly. I have some bulkhead holes to
fill and don't want to repaint everything. I am also abysmal at matching
gelcoat - a true art when a boat is getting older.
Cheers
Charlie
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Subject: [Cal_Boats] cal 36
I finally saw the boat yesterday. The hull is really beautiful. New bottom
paint, decent topsides and no blisters or soft spots. Once I got on deck it
was a whole other story. Huge holes in the cabin entranceway where the guy
put enough speakers to fill a concert hall (same in bulkhead). The rigging
seemed underbuilt and the forestay is frayed halfway up. Down below, there
is the usual water in bilge and it seems fair to okay looking forward
(besides holes in bulkhead) but looking aft there are unmarked new wires
everywhere and a huge hole where an engine once sat. This boat is a big
project boat, but the owner is ready to give her away. There seems to be
little rhyme or reason to the way the previous work was approached, but if
anyone is looking for a challenge and has the skillset to fix this boat up,
she could be a sweet boat. Oh yea, she is a shoal draft version drawing
less
than 5 ft.
RE: [Cal_Boats] cal 36 bulkhead
ti… [at] ch2m.com2011-04-21 18:04 UTC
When we first got California Girl, she too had a number of bulkhead holes to fill.
The first two seasons, while I was selecting instrument heads and compass locations, I used a door skin, varnished both sides and just covered the entire bulkhead including holes.
It actually looked very good, with stainless beauty screw “riveting” the panel on. Can’t find a photo of it.. but will look.
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Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 36
Charlie -
Its a hike for you to get there, but when I was repairing the mast step in my old CS 30 I took a piece over to Composite Yachts, just your side of the Choptank Bridge and they hooked me up with a quart of gelcoat which they matched for me, 2 or 3 of those little sprayers and something else (I forget now what it was) for $20. I couldn't believe it. I literally walked in, spoke to the owner and he hooked me up with his paint guy right then and he did a little mixing and dried a sample and got it spot on the first try. I used to mix paint at an old hardware store before the computer matching machines and it is no easy task, especially with "off" whites. I think I was in and out in less than 20 min.
Needless to say, I was impressed.
Paul
In a message dated 4/20/2011 9:11:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hu… [at] bah.com writes:
Shame. Could have mounted the speakers to the back of the bulkhead with no holes, and resonated the whole boat. As a sub-woofer, the hull works very well. Could drive everyone else on the water nuts.
Those damn big round holes in the bulkheads are hard to fix in a pretty fashion. Anybody have ideas on how to do it best? Most pretty solutions involve painting. Then other parts look ugly. I have some bulkhead holes to fill and don't want to repaint everything. I am also abysmal at matching gelcoat - a true art when a boat is getting older.
Cheers
Charlie
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of do… [at] usa.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:02 PM
To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Cal_Boats] cal 36
I finally saw the boat yesterday. The hull is really beautiful. New bottom
paint, decent topsides and no blisters or soft spots. Once I got on deck it
was a whole other story. Huge holes in the cabin entranceway where the guy
put enough speakers to fill a concert hall (same in bulkhead). The rigging
seemed underbuilt and the forestay is frayed halfway up. Down below, there
is the usual water in bilge and it seems fair to okay looking forward
(besides holes in bulkhead) but looking aft there are unmarked new wires
everywhere and a huge hole where an engine once sat. This boat is a big
project boat, but the owner is ready to give her away. There seems to be
little rhyme or reason to the way the previous work was approached, but if
anyone is looking for a challenge and has the skillset to fix this boat up,
she could be a sweet boat. Oh yea, she is a shoal draft version drawing less
than 5 ft.