New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top

New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top

30 messages2011-03-01 05:16 through 2011-05-02 12:49 UTC

New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top

vegasrigger2011-03-01 05:16
Hi group! I'm a new sailor, who just picked up a '71 CAL 27 pop-top. Hull #30. I bought it sight unseen on craigslist(risky I know), sent a buddy to check it out as I'm away on business. The report is that it's in great shape, just needs a hull cleaning. Sails and rigging all in good condition, solid hull with just a drip from the velvet box where the prop goes thruhull. I studied up on another sail forum so I think I'm good to go on that repair. I've perused the archives for general info about the boat, but I think I'll ask you all for some tips. Anything right away like common problems I should look out for? How stable is this boat? As I said, I've never sailed before, but I will have some guidance, and I'm a professional rigger so I won't have any problems with the actual rope work. I just need to wrap my head around sail trim and get good at it. How careful do I need to be about over-powering her in a strong wind? I'd appreciate any guidance or words of wisdom specific to this boat. Thanks! Darcy

Re: [Cal_Boats] New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top

mike2011-03-01 05:27 UTC
Congrats on your new rocket! Beth and I owned a 27 pop-top on Lake Mead some years back and the boat sails great! She took home trophies etc. She does not like too much weight in the cockpit, It slows her down a lot. I have a picture of her with 3 big dudes in the cockpit and her nose is trying to point to the sky. Also, we had an outboard on "B-Natural". We would get water coming over the outboard cutout on occasion. I hope your top works. It's a large heavy piece that takes some finagling to get in place. Once you get the technique down, it goes up easily. Reggie, on this forum, still races his 27pt in the summers and I'm sure he will be happy to give you tips and trick. Mike M. On 3/1/2011 12:16 AM, vegasrigger wrote: > Hi group! > I'm a new sailor, who just picked up a '71 CAL 27 pop-top. > Hull #30. > > I bought it sight unseen on craigslist(risky I know), sent a buddy to check it out as I'm away on business. The report is that it's in great shape, just needs a hull cleaning. Sails and rigging all in good condition, solid hull with just a drip from the velvet box where the prop goes thruhull. I studied up on another sail forum so I think I'm good to go on that repair. > > I've perused the archives for general info about the boat, but I think I'll ask you all for some tips. > > Anything right away like common problems I should look out for? > > > How stable is this boat? As I said, I've never sailed before, but I will have some guidance, and I'm a professional rigger so I won't have any problems with the actual rope work. I just need to wrap my head around sail trim and get good at it. How careful do I need to be about over-powering her in a strong wind? > > I'd appreciate any guidance or words of wisdom specific to this boat. > > Thanks! > > Darcy > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top

vegasrigger2011-03-01 06:05
What coincidence! She is currently berthed on Lake Mead, at Las Vegas boat harbor. Current owner says she was christened on that lake, and has never sailed elsewhere. Past owners were big sail enthusiasts, and sailed in and out of the slip. No name on the stern as far as I know. The inboard engine fires right up, and an outboard is included stowed in a cockpit locker. The photos I have from my friend have the top up and set, so it appears that it functions. Seller assures everything is in good condition, just shows the signs of being a 40 year old boat. I'm really excited to get home next week to take my first voyage. I have big plans to spend the weekends cruising the warm waters. --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, mike <mike@...> wrote: > > Congrats on your new rocket! Beth and I owned a 27 pop-top on Lake Mead > some years back and the boat sails great! She took home trophies etc. > She does not like too much weight in the cockpit, It slows her down a > lot. I have a picture of her with 3 big dudes in the cockpit and her > nose is trying to point to the sky. Also, we had an outboard on > "B-Natural". We would get water coming over the outboard cutout on > occasion. I hope your top works. It's a large heavy piece that takes > some finagling to get in place. Once you get the technique down, it goes > up easily. > Reggie, on this forum, still races his 27pt in the summers and I'm sure > he will be happy to give you tips and trick. > Mike M. > > On 3/1/2011 12:16 AM, vegasrigger wrote: > > Hi group! > > I'm a new sailor, who just picked up a '71 CAL 27 pop-top. > > Hull #30. > > > > I bought it sight unseen on craigslist(risky I know), sent a buddy to check it out as I'm away on business. The report is that it's in great shape, just needs a hull cleaning. Sails and rigging all in good condition, solid hull with just a drip from the velvet box where the prop goes thruhull. I studied up on another sail forum so I think I'm good to go on that repair. > > > > I've perused the archives for general info about the boat, but I think I'll ask you all for some tips. > > > > Anything right away like common problems I should look out for? > > > > > > How stable is this boat? As I said, I've never sailed before, but I will have some guidance, and I'm a professional rigger so I won't have any problems with the actual rope work. I just need to wrap my head around sail trim and get good at it. How careful do I need to be about over-powering her in a strong wind? > > > > I'd appreciate any guidance or words of wisdom specific to this boat. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Darcy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top

Helen Horn2011-03-01 06:24 UTC
welcome aboard ... there is a great group of sailers and racers on lake mead.. and one very fast CAL 29 also some pretty FUN things going on ,,,,edward From: vegasrigger <da… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 10:05:37 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top What coincidence! She is currently berthed on Lake Mead, at Las Vegas boat harbor. Current owner says she was christened on that lake, and has never sailed elsewhere. Past owners were big sail enthusiasts, and sailed in and out of the slip. No name on the stern as far as I know. The inboard engine fires right up, and an outboard is included stowed in a cockpit locker. The photos I have from my friend have the top up and set, so it appears that it functions. Seller assures everything is in good condition, just shows the signs of being a 40 year old boat. I'm really excited to get home next week to take my first voyage. I have big plans to spend the weekends cruising the warm waters. --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, mike <mike@...> wrote: > > Congrats on your new rocket! Beth and I owned a 27 pop-top on Lake Mead > some years back and the boat sails great! She took home trophies etc. > She does not like too much weight in the cockpit, It slows her down a > lot. I have a picture of her with 3 big dudes in the cockpit and her > nose is trying to point to the sky. Also, we had an outboard on > "B-Natural". We would get water coming over the outboard cutout on > occasion. I hope your top works. It's a large heavy piece that takes > some finagling to get in place. Once you get the technique down, it goes > up easily. > Reggie, on this forum, still races his 27pt in the summers and I'm sure > he will be happy to give you tips and trick. > Mike M. > > On 3/1/2011 12:16 AM, vegasrigger wrote: > > Hi group! > > I'm a new sailor, who just picked up a '71 CAL 27 pop-top. > > Hull #30. > > > > I bought it sight unseen on craigslist(risky I know), sent a buddy to check >it out as I'm away on business. The report is that it's in great shape, just >needs a hull cleaning. Sails and rigging all in good condition, solid hull with >just a drip from the velvet box where the prop goes thruhull. I studied up on >another sail forum so I think I'm good to go on that repair. > > > > I've perused the archives for general info about the boat, but I think I'll >ask you all for some tips. > > > > Anything right away like common problems I should look out for? > > > > > > How stable is this boat? As I said, I've never sailed before, but I will have >some guidance, and I'm a professional rigger so I won't have any problems with >the actual rope work. I just need to wrap my head around sail trim and get good >at it. How careful do I need to be about over-powering her in a strong wind? > > > > I'd appreciate any guidance or words of wisdom specific to this boat. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Darcy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top

mike2011-03-01 14:16 UTC
It seems a bit odd to us as we have sailed/raced on that lake for many years, before moving away and getting our 40, and have never run across another pop-top. I sure would have liked to race against a sister-ship. Our boat never had an inboard and the outboard worked well enough to where I don't foresee anybody installing one for lake use. A note on Lake Mead, The water level is projected to rise this year for the first time in a decade. It's still 120' low but you get out in the middle and it will show 500' on you depth meter. Be careful of the rocky bits if you haven't sailed there before or if you have in the past when the water was higher. There are very few danger buoys out there marking hazards. Pay attention to the color of the water. It's not as stark a difference as sailing in the Bahamas, but you can see the difference in water color when you start getting to about 10' deep. Also, remember to sheet out your sails just before entering 'Hurricane Gulch'. Hurricane Gulch is when we have a South to south-west wind, it gets compressed and accelerated out of Black's Canyon where the dam is. You'll notice it on some days with the lake being calm except for a streak of white water and high chop blowing out of the canyon. Use this to your advantage during races. Talk with Steve Smith at the Nevada Yacht club, he's a good guy that likes talking about boats, racing and stuff. If you want to race,join the Nevada Yacht Club <http://www.nevadayachtclub.com/wordpress/>. It's inexpensive compared to California Yacht Clubs. If you want to cruise and have fun at raft-ups, join the Lake Mead Sailing Club <http://www.lakemeadsailingclub.org/>. Many folks belong to both and have a blast all year. Beth and I are in Florida now working to get our Cal-40, /Celtic Naut/, put together. Again. We love the Bayou and our friends, but we miss sailing on Lake Mead very much. Good folks, good lake, good times and strippers. Lots and lots of strippers going by on the powerboats practicing on how to earn mardi-gras beads. Cheers, Mike M. On 3/1/2011 1:05 AM, vegasrigger wrote: > What coincidence! She is currently berthed on Lake Mead, at Las Vegas boat harbor. Current owner says she was christened on that lake, and has never sailed elsewhere. Past owners were big sail enthusiasts, and sailed in and out of the slip. No name on the stern as far as I know. The inboard engine fires right up, and an outboard is included stowed in a cockpit locker. > > The photos I have from my friend have the top up and set, so it appears that it functions. Seller assures everything is in good condition, just shows the signs of being a 40 year old boat. > > I'm really excited to get home next week to take my first voyage. I have big plans to spend the weekends cruising the warm waters. > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, mike<mike@...> wrote: >> Congrats on your new rocket! Beth and I owned a 27 pop-top on Lake Mead >> some years back and the boat sails great! She took home trophies etc. >> She does not like too much weight in the cockpit, It slows her down a >> lot. I have a picture of her with 3 big dudes in the cockpit and her >> nose is trying to point to the sky. Also, we had an outboard on >> "B-Natural". We would get water coming over the outboard cutout on >> occasion. I hope your top works. It's a large heavy piece that takes >> some finagling to get in place. Once you get the technique down, it goes >> up easily. >> Reggie, on this forum, still races his 27pt in the summers and I'm sure >> he will be happy to give you tips and trick. >> Mike M. >

Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave)

Telephone Dave2011-03-02 18:11
Darcy, We own a '72 Cal 27 pop-top (hull #145) on Lake St. Clair here in Michigan. We bought her from the original owner in '94. She is a beautiful sailing craft, stable, easy to handle in most all weather conditions, and very maneuverable. Just sheet out in strong winds. The pop-top is a unique (and handy) feature when we stay on the boat. A slight drip from the stuffing box is normal. My bilge pump (located in the keel well) is fused directly from the battery w/o a switch (except for the float switch). If your bilge pump tee's into the galley sink tailpiece like mine, make sure the sink stopper is kept out of the drain, and no obstructions (paper, plastic, etc.) left in the sink. The sink is a vacuum break for the pump, and prevents a siphon effect after the pump shuts off. I'm curious. What kind of inboard do you have? Ask me any questions you might have about your boat, on or off list... Welcome to our group, and to the Lapworth sailing community. Regards, Dave Leasia '72 Cal 27 p-t #145 s/v "Candy Cane" Grosse Pointe Farms, MI PS There are a number of photos and documents relating to the pop-top in the files section of this group. --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "vegasrigger" <darcyawood@...> wrote: > > Hi group! > I'm a new sailor, who just picked up a '71 CAL 27 pop-top. > Hull #30. > > I bought it sight unseen on craigslist(risky I know), sent a buddy to check it out as I'm away on business. The report is that it's in great shape, just needs a hull cleaning. Sails and rigging all in good condition, solid hull with just a drip from the velvet box where the prop goes thruhull. I studied up on another sail forum so I think I'm good to go on that repair. > > I've perused the archives for general info about the boat, but I think I'll ask you all for some tips. > > Anything right away like common problems I should look out for? > > > How stable is this boat? As I said, I've never sailed before, but I will have some guidance, and I'm a professional rigger so I won't have any problems with the actual rope work. I just need to wrap my head around sail trim and get good at it. How careful do I need to be about over-powering her in a strong wind? > > I'd appreciate any guidance or words of wisdom specific to this boat. > > Thanks! > > Darcy >

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27/Lake Mead/Steve Smith

Helen Horn2011-03-02 20:41 UTC
Got to sail on Steve and Joyce's boat for a spring regatta series two years ago on Lake Mead, took two or three out of five first places.They are an awesome team. Surprising wind variety out there. Joyce's son-in-law has a superfast cal 29. I noticed you must keep that boat bottom cleaned of the mussels...but I also thought twice about jumping in that water with those monster fish! (Steve's sister-in-law Brenda and I drove east, stopping in on our way, great timing. She and Thumper, Steve's brother, had a ww potter they sailed in SF bay and also crewed [Thumper the helmsman for our best win] on Noah's Kid before being transferred to connecticut for a few years). Thumper started the Potter Yachterfest at Peninsula Yacht Club and Edward and I are continuing the fest with the potters and other similar trailerable sailboats for the fourth year on March 19th and 20th, including a great St. Pat's dinner and dance Sat. night. Helen From: mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 6:16:08 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top It seems a bit odd to us as we have sailed/raced on that lake for many years, before moving away and getting our 40, and have never run across another pop-top. I sure would have liked to race against a sister-ship. Our boat never had an inboard and the outboard worked well enough to where I don't foresee anybody installing one for lake use. A note on Lake Mead, The water level is projected to rise this year for the first time in a decade. It's still 120' low but you get out in the middle and it will show 500' on you depth meter. Be careful of the rocky bits if you haven't sailed there before or if you have in the past when the water was higher. There are very few danger buoys out there marking hazards. Pay attention to the color of the water. It's not as stark a difference as sailing in the Bahamas, but you can see the difference in water color when you start getting to about 10' deep. Also, remember to sheet out your sails just before entering 'Hurricane Gulch'. Hurricane Gulch is when we have a South to south-west wind, it gets compressed and accelerated out of Black's Canyon where the dam is. You'll notice it on some days with the lake being calm except for a streak of white water and high chop blowing out of the canyon. Use this to your advantage during races. Talk with Steve Smith at the Nevada Yacht club, he's a good guy that likes talking about boats, racing and stuff. If you want to race,join the Nevada Yacht Club. It's inexpensive compared to California Yacht Clubs. If you want to cruise and have fun at raft-ups, join the Lake Mead Sailing Club. Many folks belong to both and have a blast all year. Beth and I are in Florida now working to get our Cal-40, Celtic Naut, put together. Again. We love the Bayou and our friends, but we miss sailing on Lake Mead very much. Good folks, good lake, good times and strippers. Lots and lots of strippers going by on the powerboats practicing on how to earn mardi-gras beads. Cheers, Mike M. On 3/1/2011 1:05 AM, vegasrigger wrote: What coincidence! She is currently berthed on Lake Mead, at Las Vegas boat harbor. Current owner says she was christened on that lake, and has never sailed elsewhere. Past owners were big sail enthusiasts, and sailed in and out of the slip. No name on the stern as far as I know. The inboard engine fires right up, and an outboard is included stowed in a cockpit locker. > >The photos I have from my friend have the top up and set, so it appears that it >functions. Seller assures everything is in good condition, just shows the signs >of being a 40 year old boat. > > >I'm really excited to get home next week to take my first voyage. I have big >plans to spend the weekends cruising the warm waters. > > >--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, mike <mike@...> wrote: > >Congrats on your new rocket! Beth and I owned a 27 pop-top on Lake Mead >>some years back and the boat sails great! She took home trophies etc. >>She does not like too much weight in the cockpit, It slows her down a >>lot. I have a picture of her with 3 big dudes in the cockpit and her >>nose is trying to point to the sky. Also, we had an outboard on >>"B-Natural". We would get water coming over the outboard cutout on >>occasion. I hope your top works. It's a large heavy piece that takes >>some finagling to get in place. Once you get the technique down, it goes >>up easily. >>Reggie, on this forum, still races his 27pt in the summers and I'm sure >>he will be happy to give you tips and trick. >>Mike M.

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27/Lake Mead/Steve Smith

mike2011-03-02 22:49 UTC
Helen, You're right about Steve and Joyce being an awesome team. Steve, as broker, sold me my Cal-25 and gave me a crash-course on how to sail it. I had never been aboard a sailboat before and after seeing my initial reaction when she heeled over in a puff he said "Relax. She's supposed to do that." I knew that but had never experienced it. I've been hooked ever since. It turned out that Steve was the guy that won most of the races on the lake. I took it as a personal challenge for me to beat him whenever I could. When I couldn't, I learned from him why at the dock post-race meeting/beerfest when he would tell me I was pinching or whatever. When stealing their wind, Joyce would show her displeasure with a meaningful one-finger salute. All in fun, of course. I've raced against the Cal-29 that Randy, their son-in-law now own. That boat only needs a sparrow fart, and a sailor to smell it, to move. There was one race in which she was the only one to finish because no one else could finish within a half hour afterwards. It was a brutal shifty-puff day. Most crews were swimming alongside their boats in the race if that tells you anything. I was using my "racing BBQ" to the best of my ability to see the wind shifts. Beth and I had beaten that 29 with our 27 PT on a couple occasions. The only boat on the lake in our class that we were never able to beat was "Este" a Ranger 33 (also a Lapworth design, if I'm not mistaken). He didn't race often but when he did, he usually won. We almost beat Este in a light air (2kt max) race but I fell overboard 100 yds before the finish when the lifeline I was leaning against failed. We didn't have enough way on to carry through and with me hanging off the side, there was a lot of drag. Bummer. The 27 was a fun little rocket. It had been on the lake for 20 years and had never raced. The only time anyone ever saw it out of the slip was during a very windy (45kt) memorial day weekend when everybody decided to cancel the scheduled raftup. We were all standing at the end of the dock when the 27 came around the corner with the 90% jib and double reefed. She was flying! I think I have video of it somewhere... The PO had increased the size of all her rigging which is why he had no qualms about sailing her in adverse weather. She went up for sale shortly after that and Beth and I picked her up and started racing her. During our third match in her first race, I had to wake Beth up to tell her we were winning (the only quality sleep she gets is when we're sailing so no problem). She didn't believe me until she poked her head out the hatch and saw the rest of the fleet behind us. What an awesome smile she made. Vegasrigger is going to have a blast if he hooks up with the sailing crowd on lake mead. He has a boat that will make Steve and Randy (and everybody else) think twice about their tactics as well. Cheers, Mike On 3/2/2011 3:41 PM, Helen Horn wrote: > > > Got to sail on Steve and Joyce's boat for a spring regatta series two > years ago on Lake Mead, took two or three out of five first > places.They are an awesome team. Surprising wind variety out there. > Joyce's son-in-law has a superfast cal 29. I noticed you must keep > that boat bottom cleaned of the mussels...but I also thought twice > about jumping in that water with those monster fish! (Steve's > sister-in-law Brenda and I drove east, stopping in on our way, great > timing. She and Thumper, Steve's brother, had a ww potter they sailed > in SF bay and also crewed [Thumper the helmsman for our best win] on > Noah's Kid before being transferred to connecticut for a few years). > Thumper started the Potter Yachterfest at Peninsula Yacht Club and > Edward and I are continuing the fest with the potters and other > similar trailerable sailboats for the fourth year on March 19th and > 20th, including a great St. Pat's dinner and dance Sat. night. Helen > > > *From:* mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Tue, March 1, 2011 6:16:08 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top > > It seems a bit odd to us as we have sailed/raced on that lake for many > years, before moving away and getting our 40, and have never run > across another pop-top. I sure would have liked to race against a > sister-ship. Our boat never had an inboard and the outboard worked > well enough to where I don't foresee anybody installing one for lake use. > A note on Lake Mead, The water level is projected to rise this year > for the first time in a decade. It's still 120' low but you get out in > the middle and it will show 500' on you depth meter. Be careful of the > rocky bits if you haven't sailed there before or if you have in the > past when the water was higher. There are very few danger buoys out > there marking hazards. Pay attention to the color of the water. It's > not as stark a difference as sailing in the Bahamas, but you can see > the difference in water color when you start getting to about 10' > deep. Also, remember to sheet out your sails just before entering > 'Hurricane Gulch'. Hurricane Gulch is when we have a South to > south-west wind, it gets compressed and accelerated out of Black's > Canyon where the dam is. You'll notice it on some days with the lake > being calm except for a streak of white water and high chop blowing > out of the canyon. Use this to your advantage during races. Talk with > Steve Smith at the Nevada Yacht club, he's a good guy that likes > talking about boats, racing and stuff. > If you want to race,join the Nevada Yacht Club > <http://www.nevadayachtclub.com/wordpress/>. It's inexpensive compared > to California Yacht Clubs. > If you want to cruise and have fun at raft-ups, join the Lake Mead > Sailing Club <http://www.lakemeadsailingclub.org/>. Many folks belong > to both and have a blast all year. > Beth and I are in Florida now working to get our Cal-40, /Celtic > Naut/, put together. Again. We love the Bayou and our friends, but we > miss sailing on Lake Mead very much. Good folks, good lake, good times > and strippers. Lots and lots of strippers going by on the powerboats > practicing on how to earn mardi-gras beads. > Cheers, > Mike M. > > On 3/1/2011 1:05 AM, vegasrigger wrote: > >> What coincidence! She is currently berthed on Lake Mead, at Las Vegas boat harbor. Current owner says she was christened on that lake, and has never sailed elsewhere. Past owners were big sail enthusiasts, and sailed in and out of the slip. No name on the stern as far as I know. The inboard engine fires right up, and an outboard is included stowed in a cockpit locker. >> >> The photos I have from my friend have the top up and set, so it appears that it functions. Seller assures everything is in good condition, just shows the signs of being a 40 year old boat. >> >> I'm really excited to get home next week to take my first voyage. I have big plans to spend the weekends cruising the warm waters. >> >> >> --- In… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>, mike<mike@...> <mailto:mike@...> wrote: >>> Congrats on your new rocket! Beth and I owned a 27 pop-top on Lake Mead >>> some years back and the boat sails great! She took home trophies etc. >>> She does not like too much weight in the cockpit, It slows her down a >>> lot. I have a picture of her with 3 big dudes in the cockpit and her >>> nose is trying to point to the sky. Also, we had an outboard on >>> "B-Natural". We would get water coming over the outboard cutout on >>> occasion. I hope your top works. It's a large heavy piece that takes >>> some finagling to get in place. Once you get the technique down, it goes >>> up easily. >>> Reggie, on this forum, still races his 27pt in the summers and I'm sure >>> he will be happy to give you tips and trick. >>> Mike M. >> > > > >

RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave)

r good2011-03-02 23:53 UTC
"Hot Ruddered Bum" is a 27 PT sailed in Flathead Lake, MT, a tall rig version. Sails great. We sail a 27 T/2 here. Same boat, with the pop top raised ti 6'1" and glassed in, so to speak. Sails great! Reggie. To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: te… [at] yahoo.com Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 18:11:10 +0000 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) Darcy, We own a '72 Cal 27 pop-top (hull #145) on Lake St. Clair here in Michigan. We bought her from the original owner in '94. She is a beautiful sailing craft, stable, easy to handle in most all weather conditions, and very maneuverable. Just sheet out in strong winds. The pop-top is a unique (and handy) feature when we stay on the boat. A slight drip from the stuffing box is normal. My bilge pump (located in the keel well) is fused directly from the battery w/o a switch (except for the float switch). If your bilge pump tee's into the galley sink tailpiece like mine, make sure the sink stopper is kept out of the drain, and no obstructions (paper, plastic, etc.) left in the sink. The sink is a vacuum break for the pump, and prevents a siphon effect after the pump shuts off. I'm curious. What kind of inboard do you have? Ask me any questions you might have about your boat, on or off list... Welcome to our group, and to the Lapworth sailing community. Regards, Dave Leasia '72 Cal 27 p-t #145 s/v "Candy Cane" Grosse Pointe Farms, MI PS There are a number of photos and documents relating to the pop-top in the files section of this group. --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "vegasrigger" <darcyawood@...> wrote: > > Hi group! > I'm a new sailor, who just picked up a '71 CAL 27 pop-top. > Hull #30. > > I bought it sight unseen on craigslist(risky I know), sent a buddy to check it out as I'm away on business. The report is that it's in great shape, just needs a hull cleaning. Sails and rigging all in good condition, solid hull with just a drip from the velvet box where the prop goes thruhull. I studied up on another sail forum so I think I'm good to go on that repair. > > I've perused the archives for general info about the boat, but I think I'll ask you all for some tips. > > Anything right away like common problems I should look out for? > > > How stable is this boat? As I said, I've never sailed before, but I will have some guidance, and I'm a professional rigger so I won't have any problems with the actual rope work. I just need to wrap my head around sail trim and get good at it. How careful do I need to be about over-powering her in a strong wind? > > I'd appreciate any guidance or words of wisdom specific to this boat. > > Thanks! > > Darcy >

RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave)

Husar, Charlie [USA]2011-03-03 00:27 UTC
For all you newer CAL people out there, the T/2 in Reggie's boat model stands for 1/2 Ton. Back in the day, there were IOR (International Ocean Racing) and MORC (Midget Ocean Racing Class - up to 30ft) fleets. They had quite a strange rating scheme and a stranger set of handicapping rules. Led to the design of some equally strange, and even unsafe, boats. But I digress. The boats were rated in tons (unrelated to weight), so there quarter ton boats, half ton boats, one ton boats, and so forth. Bill Lapworth wanted to build some MORC rated boats. The 1/2 tonners required a certain level of headroom. So Bill took the 27 hull, "glassed in the pop-top" to get the head room, and voila, he called it a half ton MORC/IOR boat. He also designed/built a 24 footer that was called the T/4 (rudder on the stern with pintels). It had a more radical beam and shape that was closer to the IOR rule-beating dimensions than the T/2. The T/4 was not very successful. There are a few around. Saw one last year. Unfortunately, Reggie is a good deal taller than 6'1". But I digress. Just a little trivia. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 6:53 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) "Hot Ruddered Bum" is a 27 PT sailed in Flathead Lake, MT, a tall rig version. Sails great. We sail a 27 T/2 here. Same boat, with the pop top raised ti 6'1" and glassed in, so to speak. Sails great! Reggie.

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave)

Fin Beven2011-03-03 02:18 UTC
To carry on with what Charlie is saying, "One Ton" boats were typified by class boats like the Ranger 37 and the Yankee 38. Of the two, the Ranger 37 (Gary Mull design) was much more successful here in SoCal. Sorry, "senior moment", as I can't remember a Cal that fit the 1-Ton rule. Any better recollections out there ? At about this time, a relatively new designer (Doug Peterson) hit the "big time" with a 1-Tonner called "Ganbare", which absolutely destroyed the local production-boat fleet in San Diego in the mid-70s. That may have been the end of racer-cruisers as possible winners in big-time sailing. 2-Tonners, at least out here, were in the 40'-42' range. Again, Peterson boats were dominating. And again, no Lapworth designs I can remember that fit this category. ----- Original Message ----- From: Husar, Charlie [USA]<mailto:hu… [at] bah.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:27 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) For all you newer CAL people out there, the T/2 in Reggie's boat model stands for 1/2 Ton. Back in the day, there were IOR (International Ocean Racing) and MORC (Midget Ocean Racing Class - up to 30ft) fleets. They had quite a strange rating scheme and a stranger set of handicapping rules. Led to the design of some equally strange, and even unsafe, boats. But I digress. The boats were rated in tons (unrelated to weight), so there quarter ton boats, half ton boats, one ton boats, and so forth. Bill Lapworth wanted to build some MORC rated boats. The 1/2 tonners required a certain level of headroom. So Bill took the 27 hull, "glassed in the pop-top" to get the head room, and voila, he called it a half ton MORC/IOR boat. He also designed/built a 24 footer that was called the T/4 (rudder on the stern with pintels). It had a more radical beam and shape that was closer to the IOR rule-beating dimensions than the T/2. The T/4 was not very successful. There are a few around. Saw one last year. Unfortunately, Reggie is a good deal taller than 6'1". But I digress. Just a little trivia. Cheers Charlie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 6:53 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) "Hot Ruddered Bum" is a 27 PT sailed in Flathead Lake, MT, a tall rig version. Sails great. We sail a 27 T/2 here. Same boat, with the pop top raised ti 6'1" and glassed in, so to speak. Sails great! Reggie.

Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave)

vegasrigger2011-03-03 05:12
Wow, looks like there is a whole world to learn about beyond the dock! Thanks for all the info! Looking forward to getting proficient! --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Fin Beven" <finbeven@...> wrote: > > To carry on with what Charlie is saying, "One Ton" boats were typified by class boats like the Ranger 37 and the Yankee 38. Of the two, the Ranger 37 (Gary Mull design) was much more successful here in SoCal. Sorry, "senior moment", as I can't remember a Cal that fit the 1-Ton rule. Any better recollections out there ? > > At about this time, a relatively new designer (Doug Peterson) hit the "big time" with a 1-Tonner called "Ganbare", which absolutely destroyed the local production-boat fleet in San Diego in the mid-70s. That may have been the end of racer-cruisers as possible winners in big-time sailing. > > 2-Tonners, at least out here, were in the 40'-42' range. Again, Peterson boats were dominating. And again, no Lapworth designs I can remember that fit this category. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Husar, Charlie [USA]<mailto:husar_charlie@...> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:27 PM > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) > > > > > > For all you newer CAL people out there, the T/2 in Reggie's boat model stands for 1/2 Ton. Back in the day, there were IOR (International Ocean Racing) and MORC (Midget Ocean Racing Class - up to 30ft) fleets. They had quite a strange rating scheme and a stranger set of handicapping rules. Led to the design of some equally strange, and even unsafe, boats. But I digress. > > The boats were rated in tons (unrelated to weight), so there quarter ton boats, half ton boats, one ton boats, and so forth. Bill Lapworth wanted to build some MORC rated boats. The 1/2 tonners required a certain level of headroom. So Bill took the 27 hull, "glassed in the pop-top" to get the head room, and voila, he called it a half ton MORC/IOR boat. He also designed/built a 24 footer that was called the T/4 (rudder on the stern with pintels). It had a more radical beam and shape that was closer to the IOR rule-beating dimensions than the T/2. The T/4 was not very successful. There are a few around. Saw one last year. > > Unfortunately, Reggie is a good deal taller than 6'1". But I digress. > > Just a little trivia. > Cheers > Charlie > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 6:53 PM > To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) > > > "Hot Ruddered Bum" is a 27 PT sailed in Flathead Lake, MT, a tall rig version. Sails great. We sail a 27 T/2 here. Same boat, with the pop top raised ti 6'1" and glassed in, so to speak. Sails great! > Reggie. >

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave)

Michael Kennedy2011-03-03 06:26 UTC
I had an Ericson 29 with a tall rig that was modified to be a 1/2 tonner. It didn't work and the stock Ericson 29, with a bigger main, was faster. Remember that Jensen built Ranger so they probably decided to go the ton class route with Mull. I talked to one of the early Peterson 35 owners, the father of Cam Lewis, about that time and he said the east coast sailors just didn't realize what the Peterson was. They cleaned up for a couple of years as Peterson, and later Ron Holland, were West Coast and European designers. Eventually, the east coast folks figured it out. Ted Turner's "Lightnin'" was the prototype Yankee 38. John Shoemaker built them way too heavy so they were not fast but they were beautiful. Mine was probably the nicest as it had been built for Gordie Frost in San Diego and had a lot of custom features. Ironically, he sold the Yankee 38 to me and had Carl Eichenlaub build an aluminum Peterson 35. We entered the Lipton Cup competition with the 38 the next year and, in a practice race (part of the Rumsey Series), we beat the new Peterson 35 with the old Yankee 38. It scared the crap out of the SD Yacht Club folks and Gordie got bumped from the helm by Lowell North. We had won the light air practice race and Burke Sawyer, sailing the Ron Holland America Jane, won the heavy air Lipton Race. We were fourth. A few years later, I bought the Peterson 35 from Gordie. I suggested his next boat should be a two tonner as I would be ready for one in a couple of years. I eventually replaced the Peterson with the Choate 40. Gordie went back to his power boats. Mike Kennedy On Mar 2, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Fin Beven wrote: > > To carry on with what Charlie is saying, "One Ton" boats were > typified by class boats like the Ranger 37 and the Yankee 38. Of > the two, the Ranger 37 (Gary Mull design) was much more successful > here in SoCal. Sorry, "senior moment", as I can't remember a Cal > that fit the 1-Ton rule. Any better recollections out there ? > > At about this time, a relatively new designer (Doug Peterson) hit > the "big time" with a 1-Tonner called "Ganbare", which absolutely > destroyed the local production-boat fleet in San Diego in the > mid-70s. That may have been the end of racer-cruisers as possible > winners in big-time sailing. > > 2-Tonners, at least out here, were in the 40'-42' range. Again, > Peterson boats were dominating. And again, no Lapworth designs I > can remember that fit this category. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Husar, Charlie [USA] > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:27 PM > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) > > For all you newer CAL people out there, the T/2 in Reggie's boat > model stands for 1/2 Ton. Back in the day, there were IOR > (International Ocean Racing) and MORC (Midget Ocean Racing Class - > up to 30ft) fleets. They had quite a strange rating scheme and a > stranger set of handicapping rules. Led to the design of some > equally strange, and even unsafe, boats. But I digress. > > The boats were rated in tons (unrelated to weight), so there quarter > ton boats, half ton boats, one ton boats, and so forth. Bill > Lapworth wanted to build some MORC rated boats. The 1/2 tonners > required a certain level of headroom. So Bill took the 27 hull, > "glassed in the pop-top" to get the head room, and voila, he called > it a half ton MORC/IOR boat. He also designed/built a 24 footer > that was called the T/4 (rudder on the stern with pintels). It had > a more radical beam and shape that was closer to the IOR rule- > beating dimensions than the T/2. The T/4 was not very successful. > There are a few around. Saw one last year. > > Unfortunately, Reggie is a good deal taller than 6'1". But I > digress. > > Just a little trivia. > Cheers > Charlie > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of r good > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 6:53 PM > To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) > > "Hot Ruddered Bum" is a 27 PT sailed in Flathead Lake, MT, a tall > rig version. Sails great. We sail a 27 T/2 here. Same boat, with > the pop top raised ti 6'1" and glassed in, so to speak. Sails great! > Reggie. > > >

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Fin)

Gerald Sobel2011-03-03 06:50 UTC
Fin, I thought the Yankee 38 became the Catalina 38, at one time the Congressional Cup boat, and still getting it's own class trophy in the Marina del Rey to San Diego Race each July. I've never seen a Ranger 37, but the Ranger 33 is still a popular race boat, or, am I partially, or, all wet? Lastly, if you had 16 tons, what would you get?..for $64,000 dollars, which is now a meaningless sum. Jerry --- On Wed, 3/2/11, vegasrigger <da… [at] gmail.com> wrote: From: vegasrigger <da… [at] gmail.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 9:12 PM Wow, looks like there is a whole world to learn about beyond the dock! Thanks for all the info! Looking forward to getting proficient! --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Fin Beven" <finbeven@...> wrote: > > To carry on with what Charlie is saying, "One Ton" boats were typified by class boats like the Ranger 37 and the Yankee 38. Of the two, the Ranger 37 (Gary Mull design) was much more successful here in SoCal. Sorry, "senior moment", as I can't remember a Cal that fit the 1-Ton rule. Any better recollections out there ? > > At about this time, a relatively new designer (Doug Peterson) hit the "big time" with a 1-Tonner called "Ganbare", which absolutely destroyed the local production-boat fleet in San Diego in the mid-70s. That may have been the end of racer-cruisers as possible winners in big-time sailing. > > 2-Tonners, at least out here, were in the 40'-42' range. Again, Peterson boats were dominating. And again, no Lapworth designs I can remember that fit this category. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Husar, Charlie [USA]<mailto:husar_charlie@...> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:27 PM > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) > > > > > > For all you newer CAL people out there, the T/2 in Reggie's boat model stands for 1/2 Ton. Back in the day, there were IOR (International Ocean Racing) and MORC (Midget Ocean Racing Class - up to 30ft) fleets. They had quite a strange rating scheme and a stranger set of handicapping rules. Led to the design of some equally strange, and even unsafe, boats. But I digress. > > The boats were rated in tons (unrelated to weight), so there quarter ton boats, half ton boats, one ton boats, and so forth. Bill Lapworth wanted to build some MORC rated boats. The 1/2 tonners required a certain level of headroom. So Bill took the 27 hull, "glassed in the pop-top" to get the head room, and voila, he called it a half ton MORC/IOR boat. He also designed/built a 24 footer that was called the T/4 (rudder on the stern with pintels). It had a more radical beam and shape that was closer to the IOR rule-beating dimensions than the T/2. The T/4 was not very successful. There are a few around. Saw one last year. > > Unfortunately, Reggie is a good deal taller than 6'1". But I digress. > > Just a little trivia. > Cheers > Charlie > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 6:53 PM > To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) > > > "Hot Ruddered Bum" is a 27 PT sailed in Flathead Lake, MT, a tall rig version. Sails great. We sail a 27 T/2 here. Same boat, with the pop top raised ti 6'1" and glassed in, so to speak. Sails great! > Reggie. >

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Fin)

mike farrell2011-03-03 08:46 UTC
You are right. The Yankee 38 an S&S design was built as a Catalina 38. In answer to your last "Tennessee Ford" "Another day older and deeper in debt. Saint Peter don't you call me cause I can't go, I owe my soul to the company stove." My Best, Mike From: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 10:50:34 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Fin) Fin, I thought the Yankee 38 became the Catalina 38, at one time the Congressional Cup boat, and still getting it's own class trophy in the Marina del Rey to San Diego Race each July. I've never seen a Ranger 37, but the Ranger 33 is still a popular race boat, or, am I partially, or, all wet? Lastly, if you had 16 tons, what would you get?..for $64,000 dollars, which is now a meaningless sum. Jerry --- On Wed, 3/2/11, vegasrigger <da… [at] gmail.com> wrote: >From: vegasrigger <da… [at] gmail.com> >Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 9:12 PM > > > >Wow, looks like there is a whole world to learn about beyond the dock! > >Thanks for all the info! Looking forward to getting proficient! > >--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Fin Beven" <finbeven@...> wrote: >> >> To carry on with what Charlie is saying, "One Ton" boats were typified by class >>boats like the Ranger 37 and the Yankee 38. Of the two, the Ranger 37 (Gary Mull >>design) was much more successful here in SoCal. Sorry, "senior moment", as I >>can't remember a Cal that fit the 1-Ton rule. Any better recollections out there >>? >> >> >> At about this time, a relatively new designer (Doug Peterson) hit the "big >>time" with a 1-Tonner called "Ganbare", which absolutely destroyed the local >>production-boat fleet in San Diego in the mid-70s. That may have been the end of >>racer-cruisers as possible winners in big-time sailing. >> >> 2-Tonners, at least out here, were in the 40'-42' range. Again, Peterson boats >>were dominating. And again, no Lapworth designs I can remember that fit this >>category. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Husar, Charlie [USA]<mailto:husar_charlie@...> >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:27 PM >> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) >> >> >> >> >> >> For all you newer CAL people out there, the T/2 in Reggie's boat model stands >>for 1/2 Ton. Back in the day, there were IOR (International Ocean Racing) and >>MORC (Midget Ocean Racing Class - up to 30ft) fleets. They had quite a strange >>rating scheme and a stranger set of handicapping rules. Led to the design of >>some equally strange, and even unsafe, boats. But I digress. >> >> >> The boats were rated in tons (unrelated to weight), so there quarter ton boats, >>half ton boats, one ton boats, and so forth. Bill Lapworth wanted to build some >>MORC rated boats. The 1/2 tonners required a certain level of headroom. So Bill >>took the 27 hull, "glassed in the pop-top" to get the head room, and voila, he >>called it a half ton MORC/IOR boat. He also designed/built a 24 footer that was >>called the T/4 (rudder on the stern with pintels). It had a more radical beam >>and shape that was closer to the IOR rule-beating dimensions than the T/2. The >>T/4 was not very successful. There are a few around. Saw one last year. >> >> Unfortunately, Reggie is a good deal taller than 6'1". But I digress. >> >> Just a little trivia. >> Cheers >> Charlie >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of >>r good >> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 6:53 PM >> To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) >> >> >> "Hot Ruddered Bum" is a 27 PT sailed in Flathead Lake, MT, a tall rig version. >>Sails great. We sail a 27 T/2 here. Same boat, with the pop top raised ti 6'1" >>and glassed in, so to speak. Sails great! >> Reggie. >> > >

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Mike)

Gerald Sobel2011-03-03 09:15 UTC
I think you miss-typed, Mike. It's store. They done paid the miners in chits they could use to buy supplies at the company store, who then extended them credit when they ran out of $$ or what passed for it. Or, something like that (wipes the coal dust off his face, and swears.."Damn stink pots!". Jerry --- On Thu, 3/3/11, mike farrell <ve… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: From: mike farrell <ve… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Fin) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 12:46 AM You are right. The Yankee 38 an S&S design was built as a Catalina 38. In answer to your last "Tennessee Ford" "Another day older and deeper in debt. Saint Peter don't you call me cause I can't go, I owe my soul to the company stove." My Best, Mike From: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 10:50:34 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Fin) Fin, I thought the Yankee 38 became the Catalina 38, at one time the Congressional Cup boat, and still getting it's own class trophy in the Marina del Rey to San Diego Race each July. I've never seen a Ranger 37, but the Ranger 33 is still a popular race boat, or, am I partially, or, all wet? Lastly, if you had 16 tons, what would you get?..for $64,000 dollars, which is now a meaningless sum. Jerry --- On Wed, 3/2/11, vegasrigger <da… [at] gmail.com> wrote: From: vegasrigger <da… [at] gmail.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 9:12 PM Wow, looks like there is a whole world to learn about beyond the dock! Thanks for all the info! Looking forward to getting proficient! --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Fin Beven" <finbeven@...> wrote: > > To carry on with what Charlie is saying, "One Ton" boats were typified by class boats like the Ranger 37 and the Yankee 38. Of the two, the Ranger 37 (Gary Mull design) was much more successful here in SoCal. Sorry, "senior moment", as I can't remember a Cal that fit the 1-Ton rule. Any better recollections out there ? > > At about this time, a relatively new designer (Doug Peterson) hit the "big time" with a 1-Tonner called "Ganbare", which absolutely destroyed the local production-boat fleet in San Diego in the mid-70s. That may have been the end of racer-cruisers as possible winners in big-time sailing. > > 2-Tonners, at least out here, were in the 40'-42' range. Again, Peterson boats were dominating. And again, no Lapworth designs I can remember that fit this category. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Husar, Charlie [USA]<mailto:husar_charlie@...> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:27 PM > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) > > > > > > For all you newer CAL people out there, the T/2 in Reggie's boat model stands for 1/2 Ton. Back in the day, there were IOR (International Ocean Racing) and MORC (Midget Ocean Racing Class - up to 30ft) fleets. They had quite a strange rating scheme and a stranger set of handicapping rules. Led to the design of some equally strange, and even unsafe, boats. But I digress. > > The boats were rated in tons (unrelated to weight), so there quarter ton boats, half ton boats, one ton boats, and so forth. Bill Lapworth wanted to build some MORC rated boats. The 1/2 tonners required a certain level of headroom. So Bill took the 27 hull, "glassed in the pop-top" to get the head room, and voila, he called it a half ton MORC/IOR boat. He also designed/built a 24 footer that was called the T/4 (rudder on the stern with pintels). It had a more radical beam and shape that was closer to the IOR rule-beating dimensions than the T/2. The T/4 was not very successful. There are a few around. Saw one last year. > > Unfortunately, Reggie is a good deal taller than 6'1". But I digress. > > Just a little trivia. > Cheers > Charlie > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 6:53 PM > To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) > > > "Hot Ruddered Bum" is a 27 PT sailed in Flathead Lake, MT, a tall rig version. Sails great. We sail a 27 T/2 here. Same boat, with the pop top raised ti 6'1" and glassed in, so to speak. Sails great! > Reggie. >

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave)

Fred Haas2011-03-03 15:58 UTC
I've got an ad that refers to the 3-30 as a 3/4 tonner and talks about Lapworth kicking butt on a couple of others; maybe Ranger 33. BTW, I blew out Nemesis' main on Sunday in 25-30 kts while racing with White Squall in the TYC Guvnor Teats Memorial. His son, Roger, who restored her a couple of years ago decided against flying his chicken chute after the winds got well into the 20's. Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma On Mar 2, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Fin Beven wrote: > To carry on with what Charlie is saying, "One Ton" boats were > typified by class boats like the Ranger 37 and the Yankee 38. Of > the two, the Ranger 37 (Gary Mull design) was much more successful > here in SoCal. Sorry, "senior moment", as I can't remember a Cal > that fit the 1-Ton rule. Any better recollections out there ? > > At about this time, a relatively new designer (Doug Peterson) hit > the "big time" with a 1-Tonner called "Ganbare", which absolutely > destroyed the local production-boat fleet in San Diego in the > mid-70s. That may have been the end of racer-cruisers as possible > winners in big-time sailing. > > 2-Tonners, at least out here, were in the 40'-42' range. Again, > Peterson boats were dominating. And again, no Lapworth designs I > can remember that fit this category. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Husar, Charlie [USA] > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:27 PM > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) > > For all you newer CAL people out there, the T/2 in Reggie's boat > model stands for 1/2 Ton. Back in the day, there were IOR > (International Ocean Racing) and MORC (Midget Ocean Racing Class - > up to 30ft) fleets. They had quite a strange rating scheme and a > stranger set of handicapping rules. Led to the design of some > equally strange, and even unsafe, boats. But I digress. > > The boats were rated in tons (unrelated to weight), so there > quarter ton boats, half ton boats, one ton boats, and so forth. > Bill Lapworth wanted to build some MORC rated boats. The 1/2 > tonners required a certain level of headroom. So Bill took the 27 > hull, "glassed in the pop-top" to get the head room, and voila, he > called it a half ton MORC/IOR boat. He also designed/built a 24 > footer that was called the T/4 (rudder on the stern with pintels). > It had a more radical beam and shape that was closer to the IOR > rule-beating dimensions than the T/2. The T/4 was not very > successful. There are a few around. Saw one last year. > > Unfortunately, Reggie is a good deal taller than 6'1". But I > digress. > > Just a little trivia. > Cheers > Charlie > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of r good > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 6:53 PM > To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top (Dave) > > "Hot Ruddered Bum" is a 27 PT sailed in Flathead Lake, MT, a tall > rig version. Sails great. We sail a 27 T/2 here. Same boat, with > the pop top raised ti 6'1" and glassed in, so to speak. Sails great! > Reggie. > > >

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top

Helen Horn2011-05-01 04:09 UTC
mike your old cal 25 on Lake Mead boat is doing good, met the new (ten days ago) owners today and taught them how to sail it.They were taking the sailing lessons at Nevada Yacht Club. Steve and Joyce say hi.... Ed and Helen From: mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 6:16:08 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top It seems a bit odd to us as we have sailed/raced on that lake for many years, before moving away and getting our 40, and have never run across another pop-top. I sure would have liked to race against a sister-ship. Our boat never had an inboard and the outboard worked well enough to where I don't foresee anybody installing one for lake use. A note on Lake Mead, The water level is projected to rise this year for the first time in a decade. It's still 120' low but you get out in the middle and it will show 500' on you depth meter. Be careful of the rocky bits if you haven't sailed there before or if you have in the past when the water was higher. There are very few danger buoys out there marking hazards. Pay attention to the color of the water. It's not as stark a difference as sailing in the Bahamas, but you can see the difference in water color when you start getting to about 10' deep. Also, remember to sheet out your sails just before entering 'Hurricane Gulch'. Hurricane Gulch is when we have a South to south-west wind, it gets compressed and accelerated out of Black's Canyon where the dam is. You'll notice it on some days with the lake being calm except for a streak of white water and high chop blowing out of the canyon. Use this to your advantage during races. Talk with Steve Smith at the Nevada Yacht club, he's a good guy that likes talking about boats, racing and stuff. If you want to race,join the Nevada Yacht Club. It's inexpensive compared to California Yacht Clubs. If you want to cruise and have fun at raft-ups, join the Lake Mead Sailing Club. Many folks belong to both and have a blast all year. Beth and I are in Florida now working to get our Cal-40, Celtic Naut, put together. Again. We love the Bayou and our friends, but we miss sailing on Lake Mead very much. Good folks, good lake, good times and strippers. Lots and lots of strippers going by on the powerboats practicing on how to earn mardi-gras beads. Cheers, Mike M. On 3/1/2011 1:05 AM, vegasrigger wrote: What coincidence! She is currently berthed on Lake Mead, at Las Vegas boat harbor. Current owner says she was christened on that lake, and has never sailed elsewhere. Past owners were big sail enthusiasts, and sailed in and out of the slip. No name on the stern as far as I know. The inboard engine fires right up, and an outboard is included stowed in a cockpit locker. > >The photos I have from my friend have the top up and set, so it appears that it >functions. Seller assures everything is in good condition, just shows the signs >of being a 40 year old boat. > > >I'm really excited to get home next week to take my first voyage. I have big >plans to spend the weekends cruising the warm waters. > > >--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, mike <mike@...> wrote: > >Congrats on your new rocket! Beth and I owned a 27 pop-top on Lake Mead >>some years back and the boat sails great! She took home trophies etc. >>She does not like too much weight in the cockpit, It slows her down a >>lot. I have a picture of her with 3 big dudes in the cockpit and her >>nose is trying to point to the sky. Also, we had an outboard on >>"B-Natural". We would get water coming over the outboard cutout on >>occasion. I hope your top works. It's a large heavy piece that takes >>some finagling to get in place. Once you get the technique down, it goes >>up easily. >>Reggie, on this forum, still races his 27pt in the summers and I'm sure >>he will be happy to give you tips and trick. >>Mike M.

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top

mike2011-05-01 04:32 UTC
Thanks for the follow-up! It's good that somebody has her now that wants to sail her. The couple I sold her to apparently used her as a dock party despite their assurances to me they wouldn't turn her into a slip queen. Anyway, could you pass on to the new owners that the cooling for the air conditioning on that boat tends to get vapor-locked after a sail due to where another PO placed the intake thru-hull? It was something I was aware of but it didn't bother me enough to fix. Just pull the hose turn the unit on and suck until the pump gets a prime and stick the hose back on. It's good fresh water so they shouldn't get too sick. Otherwise it works great. Honestly, though, I had more fun sailing to a cove and jumping overboard for a swim. I hope they enjoy her as much as I did. MIke M. On 5/1/2011 12:09 AM, Helen Horn wrote: > > > mike your old cal 25 on Lake Mead boat is doing good, met the new (ten > days ago) owners today and taught them how to sail it.They were taking > the sailing lessons at Nevada Yacht Club. Steve and Joyce say hi.... > Ed and Helen > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Tue, March 1, 2011 6:16:08 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: New owner of a '71 Cal 27 Pop-Top > > It seems a bit odd to us as we have sailed/raced on that lake for many > years, before moving away and getting our 40, and have never run > across another pop-top. I sure would have liked to race against a > sister-ship. Our boat never had an inboard and the outboard worked > well enough to where I don't foresee anybody installing one for lake use. > A note on Lake Mead, The water level is projected to rise this year > for the first time in a decade. It's still 120' low but you get out in > the middle and it will show 500' on you depth meter. Be careful of the > rocky bits if you haven't sailed there before or if you have in the > past when the water was higher. There are very few danger buoys out > there marking hazards. Pay attention to the color of the water. It's > not as stark a difference as sailing in the Bahamas, but you can see > the difference in water color when you start getting to about 10' > deep. Also, remember to sheet out your sails just before entering > 'Hurricane Gulch'. Hurricane Gulch is when we have a South to > south-west wind, it gets compressed and accelerated out of Black's > Canyon where the dam is. You'll notice it on some days with the lake > being calm except for a streak of white water and high chop blowing > out of the canyon. Use this to your advantage during races. Talk with > Steve Smith at the Nevada Yacht club, he's a good guy that likes > talking about boats, racing and stuff. > If you want to race,join the Nevada Yacht Club > <http://www.nevadayachtclub.com/wordpress/>. It's inexpensive compared > to California Yacht Clubs. > If you want to cruise and have fun at raft-ups, join the Lake Mead > Sailing Club <http://www.lakemeadsailingclub.org/>. Many folks belong > to both and have a blast all year. > Beth and I are in Florida now working to get our Cal-40, /Celtic > Naut/, put together. Again. We love the Bayou and our friends, but we > miss sailing on Lake Mead very much. Good folks, good lake, good times > and strippers. Lots and lots of strippers going by on the powerboats > practicing on how to earn mardi-gras beads. > Cheers, > Mike M. > > On 3/1/2011 1:05 AM, vegasrigger wrote: > >> What coincidence! She is currently berthed on Lake Mead, at Las Vegas boat harbor. Current owner says she was christened on that lake, and has never sailed elsewhere. Past owners were big sail enthusiasts, and sailed in and out of the slip. No name on the stern as far as I know. The inboard engine fires right up, and an outboard is included stowed in a cockpit locker. >> >> The photos I have from my friend have the top up and set, so it appears that it functions. Seller assures everything is in good condition, just shows the signs of being a 40 year old boat. >> >> I'm really excited to get home next week to take my first voyage. I have big plans to spend the weekends cruising the warm waters. >> >> >> --- In… [at] yahoogroups.com, mike<mike@...> wrote: >>> Congrats on your new rocket! Beth and I owned a 27 pop-top on Lake Mead >>> some years back and the boat sails great! She took home trophies etc. >>> She does not like too much weight in the cockpit, It slows her down a >>> lot. I have a picture of her with 3 big dudes in the cockpit and her >>> nose is trying to point to the sky. Also, we had an outboard on >>> "B-Natural". We would get water coming over the outboard cutout on >>> occasion. I hope your top works. It's a large heavy piece that takes >>> some finagling to get in place. Once you get the technique down, it goes >>> up easily. >>> Reggie, on this forum, still races his 27pt in the summers and I'm sure >>> he will be happy to give you tips and trick. >>> Mike M. >> > > > >

New Owner CAL 21

Craig McDonnell2011-05-02 00:54 UTC
Hello All, New owner of CAL 21 Hull # 255 now stationed on Bayou Chico in Pensacola Florida. I am looking forward to learning to sail this wonderful boat with my Bayou Buddies. I am hopeful that Tom and Bobbie will be on the boat for a sail soon after it is in the water. A soon to be announced renaming/splash party is being planned. Craig

RE: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21

Husar, Charlie [USA]2011-05-02 01:10 UTC
Welcome to the group, Craig. curiosity. Name change is from/to? We won the NOOD race today. Well, well... 4 races Friday in heavy air, 3 yesterday in close to heavy conditions. Some stories to tell if anybody wants to hear (read). Tired puppy, I'm going to bed. Cheers Charlie 2 CAL 25s and a CAL Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig McDonnell Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 8:54 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 Hello All, New owner of CAL 21 Hull # 255 now stationed on Bayou Chico in Pensacola Florida. I am looking forward to learning to sail this wonderful boat with my Bayou Buddies. I am hopeful that Tom and Bobbie will be on the boat for a sail soon after it is in the water. A soon to be announced renaming/splash party is being planned. Craig

Re: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21

mike2011-05-02 01:18 UTC
Craig, Beth said she's a fine little boat. I looked over the pictures and I agree. I bet you have fun with it. If you have any questions about it, this is the place to ask. There's a lot of pretty fart smellers here that have done just about everything imaginable to a boat. Charlie, Congrats on winning the NOOD! We look forward to hearing about it. Mike M. On 5/1/2011 9:10 PM, Husar, Charlie [USA] wrote: > > > Welcome to the group, Craig. curiosity. Name change is from/to? > We won the NOOD race today. Well, well... 4 races Friday in heavy > air, 3 yesterday in close to heavy conditions. Some stories to tell > if anybody wants to hear (read). Tired puppy, I'm going to bed. > Cheers > Charlie > 2 CAL 25s and a CAL > Annapolis > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *On Behalf Of *Craig McDonnell > *Sent:* Sunday, May 01, 2011 8:54 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 > > Hello All, > New owner of CAL 21 Hull # 255 now stationed on Bayou Chico in > Pensacola Florida. I am looking forward to learning to sail this > wonderful boat with my Bayou Buddies. I am hopeful that Tom and > Bobbie will be on the boat for a sail soon after it is in the water. > A soon to be announced renaming/splash party is being planned. > > Craig > > > >

RE: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21

Craig McDonnell2011-05-02 01:21 UTC
Original name was Connie Mae, new name to be revealed at christening. Tom Vandiver has agreed to officiate for me. craig --- On Sun, 5/1/11, Husar, Charlie [USA] <hu… [at] bah.com> wrote: From: Husar, Charlie [USA] <hu… [at] bah.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 8:10 PM Welcome to the group, Craig. curiosity. Name change is from/to? We won the NOOD race today. Well, well... 4 races Friday in heavy air, 3 yesterday in close to heavy conditions. Some stories to tell if anybody wants to hear (read). Tired puppy, I'm going to bed. Cheers Charlie 2 CAL 25s and a CAL Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig McDonnell Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 8:54 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 Hello All, New owner of CAL 21 Hull # 255 now stationed on Bayou Chico in Pensacola Florida. I am looking forward to learning to sail this wonderful boat with my Bayou Buddies. I am hopeful that Tom and Bobbie will be on the boat for a sail soon after it is in the water. A soon to be announced renaming/splash party is being planned. Craig

RE: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21

r good2011-05-02 01:54 UTC
way to go Charlie! To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: hu… [at] bah.com Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 21:10:11 -0400 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 Welcome to the group, Craig. curiosity. Name change is from/to? We won the NOOD race today. Well, well... 4 races Friday in heavy air, 3 yesterday in close to heavy conditions. Some stories to tell if anybody wants to hear (read). Tired puppy, I'm going to bed. Cheers Charlie 2 CAL 25s and a CAL Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig McDonnell Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 8:54 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 Hello All, New owner of CAL 21 Hull # 255 now stationed on Bayou Chico in Pensacola Florida. I am looking forward to learning to sail this wonderful boat with my Bayou Buddies. I am hopeful that Tom and Bobbie will be on the boat for a sail soon after it is in the water. A soon to be announced renaming/splash party is being planned. Craig

RE: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21

Harleigh and/or Kathy Ewell2011-05-02 02:01 UTC
Congratulations, Charlie. Let's hear the stories. Harleigh From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 9:54 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 way to go Charlie! _____ To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: hu… [at] bah.com Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 21:10:11 -0400 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 Welcome to the group, Craig. curiosity. Name change is from/to? We won the NOOD race today. Well, well... 4 races Friday in heavy air, 3 yesterday in close to heavy conditions. Some stories to tell if anybody wants to hear (read). Tired puppy, I'm going to bed. Cheers Charlie 2 CAL 25s and a CAL Annapolis _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig McDonnell Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 8:54 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 Hello All, New owner of CAL 21 Hull # 255 now stationed on Bayou Chico in Pensacola Florida. I am looking forward to learning to sail this wonderful boat with my Bayou Buddies. I am hopeful that Tom and Bobbie will be on the boat for a sail soon after it is in the water. A soon to be announced renaming/splash party is being planned. Craig

Re: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21

The SV Emergency Exit Crew2011-05-02 02:41 UTC
Not too far from you (north of Baton Rouge), planning on bringing my CAL21 down to Orange Beach first week of August. You're gonna love that boat... Not really sure of my hull number, the transom was beefed up with a layer of ply on the inside and the number covered over. Can't find it anywhere else on the inside either... Beau Callipygian From: Craig McDonnell <sl… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 7:54:15 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 Hello All, New owner of CAL 21 Hull # 255 now stationed on Bayou Chico in Pensacola Florida. I am looking forward to learning to sail this wonderful boat with my Bayou Buddies. I am hopeful that Tom and Bobbie will be on the boat for a sail soon after it is in the water. A soon to be announced renaming/splash party is being planned. Craig

Re: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21

Tom Vandiver2011-05-02 12:14 UTC
Hi Beau, I just looked up your boats name, "Beautiful Buttocks". Wonderful name for a boat IMHO. We are about 20 miles east of Orange Beach, so sail on over to Bayou Chico. We will make dock space for two Cal 21's and you can spend the night in our guest cottage, if you wish. Tom and Bobbie Vandiver, Cal Cruising 46, Hull #3 Satori From: The SV Emergency Exit Crew <sv… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 9:41:14 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 Not too far from you (north of Baton Rouge), planning on bringing my CAL21 down to Orange Beach first week of August. You're gonna love that boat... Not really sure of my hull number, the transom was beefed up with a layer of ply on the inside and the number covered over. Can't find it anywhere else on the inside either... Beau Callipygian From: Craig McDonnell <sl… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 7:54:15 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 Hello All, New owner of CAL 21 Hull # 255 now stationed on Bayou Chico in Pensacola Florida. I am looking forward to learning to sail this wonderful boat with my Bayou Buddies. I am hopeful that Tom and Bobbie will be on the boat for a sail soon after it is in the water. A soon to be announced renaming/splash party is being planned. Craig

Re: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21

Craig McDonnell2011-05-02 12:46 UTC
Thanks Mike, I am writing to you and not to all because I hope I don't make a fool of myself on this boat the first few times out. I am sure my Bayou Buddies need a good laugh anyway but you know how it goes. craig From: mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 8:18:42 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 Craig, Beth said she's a fine little boat. I looked over the pictures and I agree. I bet you have fun with it. If you have any questions about it, this is the place to ask. There's a lot of pretty fart smellers here that have done just about everything imaginable to a boat. Charlie, Congrats on winning the NOOD! We look forward to hearing about it. Mike M. On 5/1/2011 9:10 PM, Husar, Charlie [USA] wrote: Welcome to the group, Craig. curiosity. Name change is from/to? > >We won the NOOD race today. Well, well... 4 races Friday in heavy air, 3 >yesterday in close to heavy conditions. Some stories to tell if anybody wants >to hear (read). Tired puppy, I'm going to bed. > >Cheers >Charlie >2 CAL 25s and a CAL >Annapolis > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig McDonnell >Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 8:54 PM >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 > > >Hello All, > New owner of CAL 21 Hull # 255 now stationed on Bayou Chico in Pensacola >Florida. I am looking forward to learning to sail this wonderful boat with my >Bayou Buddies. I am hopeful that Tom and Bobbie will be on the boat for a sail >soon after it is in the water. A soon to be announced renaming/splash party is >being planned. > >Craig > >

Re: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21

The SV Emergency Exit Crew2011-05-02 12:48 UTC
Tom, What a gracious offer, thank you ! I drop you a note off list when we get the plans are firmed up for sure. I had told my wife that we needed a name that included "Cal" and she came up with that one...obviously not named after me and my skinny old guy read end... From: Tom Vandiver <bs… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 7:14:34 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 Hi Beau, I just looked up your boats name, "Beautiful Buttocks". Wonderful name for a boat IMHO. We are about 20 miles east of Orange Beach, so sail on over to Bayou Chico. We will make dock space for two Cal 21's and you can spend the night in our guest cottage, if you wish. Tom and Bobbie Vandiver, Cal Cruising 46, Hull #3 Satori From: The SV Emergency Exit Crew <sv… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 9:41:14 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 Not too far from you (north of Baton Rouge), planning on bringing my CAL21 down to Orange Beach first week of August. You're gonna love that boat... Not really sure of my hull number, the transom was beefed up with a layer of ply on the inside and the number covered over. Can't find it anywhere else on the inside either... Beau Callipygian From: Craig McDonnell <sl… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 7:54:15 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 Hello All, New owner of CAL 21 Hull # 255 now stationed on Bayou Chico in Pensacola Florida. I am looking forward to learning to sail this wonderful boat with my Bayou Buddies. I am hopeful that Tom and Bobbie will be on the boat for a sail soon after it is in the water. A soon to be announced renaming/splash party is being planned. Craig

Re: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21

Craig McDonnell2011-05-02 12:49 UTC
OOPS From: Craig McDonnell <sl… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 7:46:46 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 Thanks Mike, I am writing to you and not to all because I hope I don't make a fool of myself on this boat the first few times out. I am sure my Bayou Buddies need a good laugh anyway but you know how it goes. craig From: mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 8:18:42 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 Craig, Beth said she's a fine little boat. I looked over the pictures and I agree. I bet you have fun with it. If you have any questions about it, this is the place to ask. There's a lot of pretty fart smellers here that have done just about everything imaginable to a boat. Charlie, Congrats on winning the NOOD! We look forward to hearing about it. Mike M. On 5/1/2011 9:10 PM, Husar, Charlie [USA] wrote: Welcome to the group, Craig. curiosity. Name change is from/to? > >We won the NOOD race today. Well, well... 4 races Friday in heavy air, 3 >yesterday in close to heavy conditions. Some stories to tell if anybody wants >to hear (read). Tired puppy, I'm going to bed. > >Cheers >Charlie >2 CAL 25s and a CAL >Annapolis > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig McDonnell >Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 8:54 PM >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Cal_Boats] New Owner CAL 21 > > >Hello All, > New owner of CAL 21 Hull # 255 now stationed on Bayou Chico in Pensacola >Florida. I am looking forward to learning to sail this wonderful boat with my >Bayou Buddies. I am hopeful that Tom and Bobbie will be on the boat for a sail >soon after it is in the water. A soon to be announced renaming/splash party is >being planned. > >Craig > >