Getting a Cal 30-2 moving

Teach this old dog a new trick (me not the boat) help me get my Cal 30-2 moving. Should I be getting my primary power out of the main or out of the jib? As you know a 30-2 is a 7/8 rig and has a large main and my problem comes in when going to weather and not pointing well and loosing speed and when hauled in tight she is on her ear. Should I downsize the jib, luff the main or fall off to a reach and get the speed back.

What you describe sounds like old sails but assuming that is not the case perhaps the jib is too big. Now, assuming that is not the case, and you have not said what size the jib is or how much wind you are sailing in, both of which would be helpful, you might try putting a reef in the main. I like getting the main flat and letting it out until it bubbles to spill air and keep my boat, which is perhaps not similar to yours, from heeling too much. Above 20 to 25 knots with a 90% jib I am finding a reef it a good thing although I have sailed with a 155% jib in 25kt by using the bubble approach. You will get as many opinions as sailors but it would help if you supplied more details: sail age, size, wind strength, reefed or not, etc. Allen On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:04 PM, mooserent7447 <mo… [at] aol.com>wrote: > > > Teach this old dog a new trick (me not the boat) help me get my Cal 30-2 > moving. Should I be getting my primary power out of the main or out of the > jib? As you know a 30-2 is a 7/8 rig and has a large main and my problem > comes in when going to weather and not pointing well and loosing speed and > when hauled in tight she is on her ear. Should I downsize the jib, luff the > main or fall off to a reach and get the speed back. > > >

take a local good guy recer out for a daysail with you, one who will show you how to get the most out of the sails you have. Offer a good stake and wine if need be. Pick someone who doesn't yell, loves sailing, and does well racing in a similar style boat, if possible. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: mo… [at] aol.com Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 00:04:31 +0000 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Getting a Cal 30-2 moving Teach this old dog a new trick (me not the boat) help me get my Cal 30-2 moving. Should I be getting my primary power out of the main or out of the jib? As you know a 30-2 is a 7/8 rig and has a large main and my problem comes in when going to weather and not pointing well and loosing speed and when hauled in tight she is on her ear. Should I downsize the jib, luff the main or fall off to a reach and get the speed back.

I was on the fore deck of RAMPAGE CAL 2-30 and we sailed the MORA series in the late 70's out of SF. Rampage was a force to contend with in heavy air on big rollers. She was heavy and narrow and would beat through chop in a blow. A couple of the sails did not perform up to expectations until recut to move the bag forward a little and we would sail with a reef when the main would start to flog to keep balance. We had 17 foredeck sails including talboy, 3 chutes, light #1 to very small storm sail. The correct head sail was very important, we would have a second choice tied to the life line to change out during a tack if we need to change. We sailed with a crew of 5, cross trained in positions and for the long races we did 4hr watches. Suprizing, she will surf in a blow with the rollers behind you with the chute up! We kept up to a Swan 45 coming in from the lightship. You may need to talk to Kame Richards at Pineapple Sails for replacement sails if sail trim alone does not help. Eric r good wrote: > > > take a local good guy recer out for a daysail with you, one who will > show you how to get the most out of the sails you have. Offer a good > stake and wine if need be. > > Pick someone who doesn't yell, loves sailing, and does well racing in > a similar style boat, if possible. > > Reggie > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: mo… [at] aol.com > Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 00:04:31 +0000 > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Getting a Cal 30-2 moving > > > Teach this old dog a new trick (me not the boat) help me get my Cal > 30-2 moving. Should I be getting my primary power out of the main or > out of the jib? As you know a 30-2 is a 7/8 rig and has a large main > and my problem comes in when going to weather and not pointing well > and loosing speed and when hauled in tight she is on her ear. Should I > downsize the jib, luff the main or fall off to a reach and get the > speed back. > > >

We also scrubbed the bottom, prop and rudder before each race, to evict the little critters. The boat next to us had 6ft kelp growing from it.... roline wrote: > > > I was on the fore deck of RAMPAGE CAL 2-30 and we sailed the MORA > series in the late 70's out of SF. Rampage was a force to contend > with in heavy air on big rollers. She was heavy and narrow and would > beat through chop in a blow. A couple of the sails did not perform up > to expectations until recut to move the bag forward a little and we > would sail with a reef when the main would start to flog to keep > balance. We had 17 foredeck sails including talboy, 3 chutes, light #1 > to very small storm sail. The correct head sail was very important, > we would have a second choice tied to the life line to change out > during a tack if we need to change. We sailed with a crew of 5, cross > trained in positions and for the long races we did 4hr watches. > Suprizing, she will surf in a blow with the rollers behind you with > the chute up! We kept up to a Swan 45 coming in from the lightship. > You may need to talk to Kame Richards at Pineapple Sails for > replacement sails if sail trim alone does not help. > Eric > > > r good wrote: > >> >> >> take a local good guy recer out for a daysail with you, one who will >> show you how to get the most out of the sails you have. Offer a good >> stake and wine if need be. >> >> Pick someone who doesn't yell, loves sailing, and does well racing in >> a similar style boat, if possible. >> >> Reggie >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> From: mo… [at] aol.com >> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 00:04:31 +0000 >> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Getting a Cal 30-2 moving >> >> >> Teach this old dog a new trick (me not the boat) help me get my Cal >> 30-2 moving. Should I be getting my primary power out of the main or >> out of the jib? As you know a 30-2 is a 7/8 rig and has a large main >> and my problem comes in when going to weather and not pointing well >> and loosing speed and when hauled in tight she is on her ear. Should >> I downsize the jib, luff the main or fall off to a reach and get the >> speed back. >> >> > >

When the wind is building to where you are getting weather helm and excessive heel, its time to depower the main. Keep her on her feet not her ear! Find the sweet spot. Lower the traveler, tighten outhaul, halyard and Cunningham. This will flatten the main. If you have an adjustable backstay tighten it too. This will cause air to spill off the top of the main as well as tightening the headsails luff thereby reducing camber. Ease the mainsheet a couple of inches from in tight... do not over tighten just slows you down. Use the traveler as much as you can instead of the mainsheet. When racing we use a 155 headsail up to about 24 knots and a reefed main. On windy days we use a 138. Most importantly stay focused on sailing fast in clean air. Did you know that you can gain position by planning to duck a boat on starboard? Do it early and don't over correct. The extra two or three knots for 100' should more than make up for lost time. You might find yourself passing his bow on starboard. Good Luck. Mark Cal 2-29 San Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: r good To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:28 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Getting a Cal 30-2 moving take a local good guy recer out for a daysail with you, one who will show you how to get the most out of the sails you have. Offer a good stake and wine if need be. Pick someone who doesn't yell, loves sailing, and does well racing in a similar style boat, if possible. Reggie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: mo… [at] aol.com Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 00:04:31 +0000 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Getting a Cal 30-2 moving Teach this old dog a new trick (me not the boat) help me get my Cal 30-2 moving. Should I be getting my primary power out of the main or out of the jib? As you know a 30-2 is a 7/8 rig and has a large main and my problem comes in when going to weather and not pointing well and loosing speed and when hauled in tight she is on her ear. Should I downsize the jib, luff the main or fall off to a reach and get the speed back. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6130 (20110517) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6130 (20110517) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Only offer the stake if it some sparkly vampire-type sailor... On 5/17/2011 8:28 PM, r good wrote: > > > take a local good guy recer out for a daysail with you, one who will > show you how to get the most out of the sails you have. Offer a good > stake and wine if need be. > > Pick someone who doesn't yell, loves sailing, and does well racing in > a similar style boat, if possible. > > Reggie > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: mo… [at] aol.com > Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 00:04:31 +0000 > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Getting a Cal 30-2 moving > > Teach this old dog a new trick (me not the boat) help me get my Cal > 30-2 moving. Should I be getting my primary power out of the main or > out of the jib? As you know a 30-2 is a 7/8 rig and has a large main > and my problem comes in when going to weather and not pointing well > and loosing speed and when hauled in tight she is on her ear. Should I > downsize the jib, luff the main or fall off to a reach and get the > speed back. > > > > >