7 messages2011-05-31 06:24 UTCthrough 2011-06-02 13:26 UTC
stanchion repairs
Helen Horn2011-05-31 06:24 UTC
You can get a metal worker to cut a set of stanchion backing plates for the
underside of the deck, and possibly flatten out the bases of those you have. At
Minney's in Newport, Ca., they sell stanchions by the each. You can also order
one new one from manufacturers in styles to match. Quite a few Cals use 24 inch
stanchions, however, the bases can vary in shape from round to almost square,
slightly smaller on the inboard side (like our 29 has). Also, one or two
lifeline holes, the tops can be the same as the stick or black plastic, and the
brackets can be different, such as the loop (like our 29), or the 3-leg, and
some are gate-posts and have an angle brace. Any chance you have an old picture
of your boat at home that you can close-up to see a stanchion? When we did ours,
we used sikaflex caulk or lifecaulk to bed them, in the screwholes and a line
all the way around just outside of where the screwholes were. One that had torn
some washers up into the core, we reglassed both sides and filled the holes
after grinding clean, then redrilled. You'll need someone to help with holding
the backing plates or washers(use big washers if you do) and putting the nuts on
the machine screws and then tighten evenly all around. Helen
RE: [Cal_Boats] stanchion repairs
r good2011-05-31 14:56 UTC
It is probably not advisable, but......I went to a local metal recycling place and bought some odd pieces of 1/4 inch aluminum plate. Then, I cut backing plates for them on my table saw with an old carbide tipped blade. Worked great. Not recommending it, just reporting.
Reggie
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Subject: [Cal_Boats] stanchion repairs
You can get a metal worker to cut a set of stanchion backing plates for the underside of the deck, and possibly flatten out the bases of those you have. At Minney's in Newport, Ca., they sell stanchions by the each. You can also order one new one from manufacturers in styles to match. Quite a few Cals use 24 inch stanchions, however, the bases can vary in shape from round to almost square, slightly smaller on the inboard side (like our 29 has). Also, one or two lifeline holes, the tops can be the same as the stick or black plastic, and the brackets can be different, such as the loop (like our 29), or the 3-leg, and some are gate-posts and have an angle brace. Any chance you have an old picture of your boat at home that you can close-up to see a stanchion? When we did ours, we used sikaflex caulk or lifecaulk to bed them, in the screwholes and a line all the way around just outside of where the screwholes were. One that had torn some washers up into the core, we reglassed both sides and filled the holes after grinding clean, then redrilled. You'll need someone to help with holding the backing plates or washers(use big washers if you do) and putting the nuts on the machine screws and then tighten evenly all around. Helen
Re: [Cal_Boats] stanchion repairs
Chris Campbell2011-06-01 19:59 UTC
On 5/31/2011 10:56 AM, r good wrote:
>
> It is probably not advisable, but......I went to a local metal
> recycling place and bought some odd pieces of 1/4 inch aluminum
> plate. Then, I cut backing plates for them on my table saw with an
> old carbide tipped blade. Worked great. Not recommending it, just
> reporting.
>
Along the same lines, my Cal 20 had no backing plates for the bow
cleats, just some washers. I bought some aluminum bar stock at the
hardware store and used two pieces, side by side, as elongated backing
plates since the boat hangs on her mooring by those cleats. I used
nylock nuts.
You folks in salt water would probably avoid aluminum and stainless
steel (the bolts and nuts) but here in the Great Lakes it's fine
(especially because the cleats are well-bedded and there are no leaks).
My other boat dates from 1961 and has wonderful bronze stanchion bases
with matching backing plates. Sturdy and effective so far.
Chris Campbell
RE: [Cal_Boats] stanchion repairs
r good2011-06-01 20:11 UTC
Garhauer offers matching backing plates
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Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 15:59:03 -0400
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] stanchion repairs
On 5/31/2011 10:56 AM, r good wrote:
It is probably not advisable, but......I went to a local metal recycling place and bought some odd pieces of 1/4 inch aluminum plate. Then, I cut backing plates for them on my table saw with an old carbide tipped blade. Worked great. Not recommending it, just reporting.
Along the same lines, my Cal 20 had no backing plates for the bow cleats, just some washers. I bought some aluminum bar stock at the hardware store and used two pieces, side by side, as elongated backing plates since the boat hangs on her mooring by those cleats. I used nylock nuts.
You folks in salt water would probably avoid aluminum and stainless steel (the bolts and nuts) but here in the Great Lakes it's fine (especially because the cleats are well-bedded and there are no leaks).
My other boat dates from 1961 and has wonderful bronze stanchion bases with matching backing plates. Sturdy and effective so far.
Chris Campbell
Re: [Cal_Boats] stanchion repairs
Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting)2011-06-01 22:44 UTC
BBBBBBBBE CAREFULL WITH AL AND SAW BLADES. I have cut in a chop saw with carbide blade and machined a fair amount of the stuff on a router table, lathe and dremel. The blade was making perfect cuts when all of a sudden the blade caught the aluminum and rip it out of my hand and with so much force that it broke the cast AL saw fence and went flying across the garage. Came close to a catastrophe.
Mark
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Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] stanchion repairs
On 5/31/2011 10:56 AM, r good wrote:
It is probably not advisable, but......I went to a local metal recycling place and bought some odd pieces of 1/4 inch aluminum plate. Then, I cut backing plates for them on my table saw with an old carbide tipped blade. Worked great. Not recommending it, just reporting.
Along the same lines, my Cal 20 had no backing plates for the bow cleats, just some washers. I bought some aluminum bar stock at the hardware store and used two pieces, side by side, as elongated backing plates since the boat hangs on her mooring by those cleats. I used nylock nuts.
You folks in salt water would probably avoid aluminum and stainless steel (the bolts and nuts) but here in the Great Lakes it's fine (especially because the cleats are well-bedded and there are no leaks).
My other boat dates from 1961 and has wonderful bronze stanchion bases with matching backing plates. Sturdy and effective so far.
Chris Campbell
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Backing Plates(Reggie, Chris C.)
david dobbs2011-06-02 02:12 UTC
Guys,
I have been using Starboard for backing recently, it's 1/2" and easy to cut and drill. Truth is I had it left over from a failed project and decided to use it for something instead of putting it in the failed project graveyard, or the dumpster. On another note, I painted the bottom today, just have to wash and wax the hull. Splashing next week. Why so late you ask? The Lake Michigan water temp is 58 today, it's still cool out there. I like to sail in shorts.
Regards,
Dave Dobbs CAL29 411
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Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] stanchion repairs
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Date: Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 3:11 PM
Garhauer offers matching backing plates
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
From: cc… [at] lsnm.org
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 15:59:03 -0400
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] stanchion repairs
On 5/31/2011 10:56 AM, r good wrote:
It is probably not advisable, but......I went to a local metal recycling place and bought some odd pieces of 1/4 inch aluminum plate. Then, I cut backing plates for them on my table saw with an old carbide tipped blade. Worked great. Not recommending it, just reporting.
Along the same lines, my Cal 20 had no backing plates for the bow cleats, just some washers. I bought some aluminum bar stock at the hardware store and used two pieces, side by side, as elongated backing plates since the boat hangs on her mooring by those cleats. I used nylock nuts.
You folks in salt water would probably avoid aluminum and stainless steel (the bolts and nuts) but here in the Great Lakes it's fine (especially because the cleats are well-bedded and there are no leaks).
My other boat dates from 1961 and has wonderful bronze stanchion bases with matching backing plates. Sturdy and effective so far.
Chris Campbell
Late spring, was Backing Plates (Reggie, Chris C.)
Chris Campbell2011-06-02 13:26 UTC
On 6/1/2011 10:12 PM, david dobbs wrote:
>
> On another note, I painted the bottom today, just have to wash and
> wax the hull. Splashing next week. Why so late you ask? The Lake
> Michigan water temp is 58 today, it's still cool out there. I like to
> sail in shorts.
>
Stalwart Cal 20 #1220, /Martha C, / has been floating on her mooring for
about two weeks now. Last week we stepped the mast. Then the rain,
cold, and wind resumed. Last night, after a day of howling winds from
the west, I rowed out and placed the boom, then bent on the mainsail.
The west wind dropped about halfway through and then resumed as a
howling northwest blow. My preference is always to make the first sail
on an unadjusted rig in moderate conditions, so I just fiddled around.
The wind dropped a bit eventually but by then it was cold and getting
dark so I rowed ashore. It's a lovely day today (of course it is, I am
at work) but maybe I'll get an actual first sail tonight. That is, if
the forecast of thunderstorms is not accurate.
Our little mooring field usually has about 38 boats. Last night I was
still just one of 14. In light of the worse weather effects in other
parts of the country it's probably in bad taste to complain too loudly,
but I will say that this is not among my favorite springs.
I'm teaching on the schoolship tomorrow and the forecast is--of
course--thunderstorms.
Chris Campbell
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