12 messages2007-07-10 01:27 through 2011-07-11 16:59 UTC
CCCCC
ford_kurt2007-07-10 01:27
Hey Folks, The CCCCC is alive and well again and planning a Catalina
Island Meeting the weekend of October 5. Fin Bevin ( Cal 40 Radiant )
has researved the LA yacht club moorings at Howlands landing for us and
some great shoreside facilities, too. This is also Buchaneer days at
Two Harbors, about a mile away, so be sure and bring your best Pirate
custume and be prepard to pillage and plunder. Those of you to far away
to sail here should stay tuned to find room on boats with space.
Transpac News: Per Curtiss, Myself and a few others watched the
start of the treanspac today with Tim Lesely (Demo) and family starting
out from point fermin. Everyone was headed SW straight to Hawaii but
Tim decided to head NW up the coast. GO FIGURE. But I guess he has more
info than most ( Hi tech as he is ) one other boat followed him and I
guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks what the stratagy was.
Kurt Ford
Cal 39 ALCYONE, Long Beach, CA.
Re: CCCCC
mtkennedy12007-07-10 02:01
--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "ford_kurt" <ford_kurt@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Folks, The CCCCC is alive and well again and planning a Catalina
> Island Meeting the weekend of October 5. Fin Bevin ( Cal 40 Radiant )
> has researved the LA yacht club moorings at Howlands landing for us and
> some great shoreside facilities, too. This is also Buchaneer days at
> Two Harbors, about a mile away, so be sure and bring your best Pirate
> custume and be prepard to pillage and plunder. Those of you to far away
> to sail here should stay tuned to find room on boats with space.
> Transpac News: Per Curtiss, Myself and a few others watched the
> start of the treanspac today with Tim Lesely (Demo) and family starting
> out from point fermin. Everyone was headed SW straight to Hawaii but
> Tim decided to head NW up the coast. GO FIGURE.
The favored strategy crossing the channel to Catalina is to go up the coast along Palos
Verdes, at least as far as the old Marineland unless the wind is southerly. What you do not
want to do is short tack in the channel. You go across in one long tack and it is an
advantage to get as close to the layline as possible while out of the current and in the lift
that occurs at Point Fermin. This is old Whitney Series strategy and Timm did his
homework if he went that way. Usually you end up at Arrow Point, just beyond Emerald
Cove, and then short tack to the West End in very close, again to stay out of the current.
Mike Kennedy
Conquest Cal 40 # 96
But I guess he has more
> info than most ( Hi tech as he is ) one other boat followed him and I
> guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks what the stratagy was.
>
> Kurt Ford
>
>
> Cal 39 ALCYONE, Long Beach, CA.
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: CCCCC
Paulson2007-07-10 02:10 UTC
Great news we will look fowardto seeing our fellow Cals there
Dave Paulson
Cal334 Allergia
Channel Islands
----- Original Message -----
From: mtkennedy1
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:01 PM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: CCCCC
--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "ford_kurt" <ford_kurt@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Folks, The CCCCC is alive and well again and planning a Catalina
> Island Meeting the weekend of October 5. Fin Bevin ( Cal 40 Radiant )
> has researved the LA yacht club moorings at Howlands landing for us and
> some great shoreside facilities, too. This is also Buchaneer days at
> Two Harbors, about a mile away, so be sure and bring your best Pirate
> custume and be prepard to pillage and plunder. Those of you to far away
> to sail here should stay tuned to find room on boats with space.
> Transpac News: Per Curtiss, Myself and a few others watched the
> start of the treanspac today with Tim Lesely (Demo) and family starting
> out from point fermin. Everyone was headed SW straight to Hawaii but
> Tim decided to head NW up the coast. GO FIGURE.
The favored strategy crossing the channel to Catalina is to go up the coast along Palos
Verdes, at least as far as the old Marineland unless the wind is southerly. What you do not
want to do is short tack in the channel. You go across in one long tack and it is an
advantage to get as close to the layline as possible while out of the current and in the lift
that occurs at Point Fermin. This is old Whitney Series strategy and Timm did his
homework if he went that way. Usually you end up at Arrow Point, just beyond Emerald
Cove, and then short tack to the West End in very close, again to stay out of the current.
Mike Kennedy
Conquest Cal 40 # 96
But I guess he has more
> info than most ( Hi tech as he is ) one other boat followed him and I
> guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks what the stratagy was.
>
> Kurt Ford
>
>
> Cal 39 ALCYONE, Long Beach, CA.
>
Re: CCCCC
camaflge2007-07-10 21:37
--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "mtkennedy1" <mtkennedy1@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "ford_kurt" <ford_kurt@> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Folks, The CCCCC is alive and well again and planning a Catalina
> > Island Meeting the weekend of October 5. Fin Bevin ( Cal 40 Radiant )
> > has researved the LA yacht club moorings at Howlands landing for
us and
> > some great shoreside facilities, too. This is also Buchaneer days at
> > Two Harbors, about a mile away, so be sure and bring your best Pirate
> > custume and be prepard to pillage and plunder. Those of you to far
away
> > to sail here should stay tuned to find room on boats with space.
> > Transpac News: Per Curtiss, Myself and a few others watched the
> > start of the treanspac today with Tim Lesely (Demo) and family
starting
> > out from point fermin. Everyone was headed SW straight to Hawaii but
> > Tim decided to head NW up the coast. GO FIGURE.
>
> The favored strategy crossing the channel to Catalina is to go up
the coast along Palos
> Verdes, at least as far as the old Marineland unless the wind is
southerly. What you do not
> want to do is short tack in the channel. You go across in one long
tack and it is an
> advantage to get as close to the layline as possible while out of
the current and in the lift
> that occurs at Point Fermin. This is old Whitney Series strategy and
Timm did his
> homework if he went that way. Usually you end up at Arrow Point,
just beyond Emerald
> Cove, and then short tack to the West End in very close, again to
stay out of the current.
>
> Mike Kennedy
> Conquest Cal 40 # 96
>
> But I guess he has more
> > info than most ( Hi tech as he is ) one other boat followed him and I
> > guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks what the stratagy was.
> >
> > Kurt Ford
> >
> >
> > Cal 39 ALCYONE, Long Beach, CA.
> >
>Kurt,
how many moorings are reserved for Oct 5. And is there an rsvp to get one?
D Boyd
Unplugged Cal 34
Re: CCCCC
camaflge2007-07-10 21:42
--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "ford_kurt" <ford_kurt@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Folks, The CCCCC is alive and well again and planning a Catalina
> Island Meeting the weekend of October 5. Fin Bevin ( Cal 40 Radiant )
> has researved the LA yacht club moorings at Howlands landing for us and
> some great shoreside facilities, too. This is also Buchaneer days at
> Two Harbors, about a mile away, so be sure and bring your best Pirate
> custume and be prepard to pillage and plunder. Those of you to far away
> to sail here should stay tuned to find room on boats with space.
> Transpac News: Per Curtiss, Myself and a few others watched the
> start of the treanspac today with Tim Lesely (Demo) and family starting
> out from point fermin. Everyone was headed SW straight to Hawaii but
> Tim decided to head NW up the coast. GO FIGURE. But I guess he has more
> info than most ( Hi tech as he is ) one other boat followed him and I
> guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks what the stratagy was.
>
> Kurt Ford
>
>
> Cal 39 ALCYONE, Long Beach, CA.
>
Kurt,
What exactly is the CCCCC? Are all Cal owners invited, and how is a
mooring reserved?
D. Boyd
Cal 34
CCCCC
Randy Alcorn2009-08-03 20:00 UTC
Except we might have to call it Channel Islnds instead of Catalina.
Anyone want to come up the 11-13 of Sep?
Randy
Re: [Cal_Boats] CCCCC
Gerald Sobel2009-08-03 20:04 UTC
Randy any chance we can do it in August or is it too crowded then?
Jerry
--- On Mon, 8/3/09, Randy Alcorn <sa… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Randy Alcorn <sa… [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: [Cal_Boats] CCCCC
To: "ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 1:00 PM
Except we might have to call it Channel Islnds instead of Catalina.
Anyone want to come up the 11-13 of Sep?
Randy
New Cross Atlantic record set!!
Gerald Sobel2009-08-03 20:50 UTC
A new record set by a 140' trimaran came within 3 hours of beating the
record set by the fastest ocean liner ever built, the United States, a ship capable of 44 knots.
3 days, 15 hours and some odd minutes. The SS United States' record was
3d 12h and some minutes. Read about it on Latitude 38 on the web. Also, new one day record of over 900 miles. Wooo Whoo?!!!
Jerry Sobel
Re: [Cal_Boats] CCCCC
Randy Alcorn2009-08-03 21:05 UTC
it is pretty busy. but it is when I can go, more than anything. My schedule is full right now.
Gerald Sobel wrote:
>
> Randy any chance we can do it in August or is it too crowded then? Jerry --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Randy Alcorn <saylorran@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Randy Alcorn <saylorran@yahoo. com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] CCCCC To: "cal_boats@yahoogro ups.com" <cal_boats@yahoogrou ps.com> Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 1:00 PM
>
> Except we might have to call it Channel Islnds instead of Catalina.
> Anyone want to come up the 11-13 of Sep?
> Randy
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] CCCCC
Dave & Cathy Paulson2009-08-04 02:53 UTC
Randy count me in
Dave Paulson
Allergia
Cal334 channel islands
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Alcorn
To: so… [at] yahoo.com
Cc: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CCCCC
it is pretty busy. but it is when I can go, more than anything. My schedule is full right now.
Gerald Sobel wrote:
>
> Randy any chance we can do it in August or is it too crowded then? Jerry --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Randy Alcorn <saylorran@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Randy Alcorn <saylorran@yahoo. com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] CCCCC To: "cal_boats@yahoogro ups.com" <cal_boats@yahoogrou ps.com> Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 1:00 PM
>
> Except we might have to call it Channel Islnds instead of Catalina.
> Anyone want to come up the 11-13 of Sep?
> Randy
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] New Cross Atlantic record set!!
Wayne Gillikin2009-08-04 13:09 UTC
Or at these sites:
http://www.sailing.org/29112.php
http://yachtpals.com/sailing-records-4192
From: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; so… [at] msn.com; so… [at] yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 4:50:07 PM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] New Cross Atlantic record set!!
A new record set by a 140' trimaran came within 3 hours of beating the record set by the fastest ocean liner ever built, the United States, a ship capable of 44 knots.
3 days, 15 hours and some odd minutes. The SS United States' record was 3d 12h and some minutes. Read about it on Latitude 38 on the web. Also, new one day record of over 900 miles. Wooo Whoo?!!!
Jerry Sobel
CCCCC
David Wilkie Owen2011-07-11 16:59 UTC
Some CCCCC history...
The "Cal Club Catalina Champagne Caper" was the brainchild of Per Curtiss, one of the old time members of the original cal list. He challenged me to a race from Marina Del Rey to Isthmus Harbor at Catalina Island after some good natured list-banter regarding my 2-29, "Mariposa" VS his Cal 31, "Leading Lady." The loser was to buy the winner a bottle of quality champagne. Kurt Ford, Ward Osborne and Mike Harris were in on the early planning. Other's were invited to participate, a weekend was set and it turned into a "rendezvous" that continued once or twice a year for several years. Mariposa was in the boat yard, at the time, but due to be ready to sail after a serious re-fit. As it turned out, I didn't get her done in time and missed the CCCCC that I had helped organize. I was really bummed. I could actually hear the VHF traffic back and forth from the various boats as I lay in the Lazarette (exhausted after several weeks of late night boat yard grinds) hooking up my steering quadrant.
Brian Cleverly and Roger Jones made it to early CCCCC's and a host of other Cal people that are no longer on the list, have moved to larger or newer boats, or retired from sailing, etc. One year Captain dEmO even showed up, scaring us all to death.
Typically, we had boats from as far away as San Diego and Santa Barbara, but Reggie & Barbara topped all travel honors by sailing their Cal from Montana. They did a little bit of portage along the way with a big dually pickup truck and trailer, but it was still a noble feat and they sailed in company with "Mariposa" and "Air Time" with a stop at Santa Barbara Island on the way and Santa Cruz Island on the way home.
Later CCCCC's were held at Howland's Landing, courtesy of Fin Bevin and the LA Yacht Club. Jerry probably attended almost all of them and I heard a rumor that he swam all the way from Howland's Landing to the Isthmus for a drink late one night. It is over a nautical mile.... Jerry is that true, or one of those Island Myths?
Ah.... the golden age of the Cal Boat List.
Per was really the sparkplug that made this and many other great things about the early Cal email list so much fun, and no CCCCC has happened since he left us. There is occasional talk, but it just doesn't happen. We all miss him. He loves the PNW, and now sails a Freedom 44.
I got to get back to work. Maybe others can add to my account.
Wilkie