Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Creaking Mast - Problem? (Timm)

Why do you do one a year rather than all at once? On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:26 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: > ** > > > Ruined Main $5,000**** > > Ruined Genoa $6,000**** > > Ruined rig $40,000**** > > Injured sailor $500,000**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Money saved not replacing shrouds, $1,000**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > [image: > http://www.turismodecanarias.com/noticias-water-sports-experience/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/101207_puerto_calero_miami.jpg] > **** > > ** ** > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Chris Campbell > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:22 AM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Creaking Mast - Problem?**** > > ** ** > > **** > > On 7/11/2011 7:31 PM, Allen Edwards wrote: **** > > **** > > On the other hand, rigging should be replaced every 10 years. If one of > the fittings lets go on Papoose and my mast comes down, that is $15,000 to > $20,000. Just thought I would give the opposing view.**** > > > I'm with you, Allen, except in terms of frequency. Only a decade? Ouch! > But my boats are in fresh water and also are only in the water half of the > year. > > Chris Campbell > > **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > **** > > >

At least one. My rigger inspects rig carefully and annually at least one shroud has an indication - so I replace it. This year both uppers had minute pitting under the tape at the upper spreaders. One lower had a broken strand, and the fore stay was replaced when it went from roller furling to a carbon fiber head foil. Cheers, Timm Lessley (Sent from Blackberry) (503) 863-4019 From: Allen Edwards [mailto:al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 08:43 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Creaking Mast - Problem? (Timm) Why do you do one a year rather than all at once? On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:26 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com<mailto:ti… [at] ch2m.com>> wrote: Ruined Main $5,000 Ruined Genoa $6,000 Ruined rig $40,000 Injured sailor $500,000 Money saved not replacing shrouds, $1,000 [cid:image001.jpg@01CC4064.F9DD02E0] From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:22 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Creaking Mast - Problem? On 7/11/2011 7:31 PM, Allen Edwards wrote: On the other hand, rigging should be replaced every 10 years. If one of the fittings lets go on Papoose and my mast comes down, that is $15,000 to $20,000. Just thought I would give the opposing view. I'm with you, Allen, except in terms of frequency. Only a decade? Ouch! But my boats are in fresh water and also are only in the water half of the year. Chris Campbell

I would be inclined to replace the set if one showed bad but maybe that is just me. I had to replace the set last time because the mast went up a couple of inches when we put the new mast step in but it was time anyway. Allen On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:51 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: > ** > > > ** At least one. My rigger inspects rig carefully and annually at least > one shroud has an indication - so I replace it. > > This year both uppers had minute pitting under the tape at the upper > spreaders. One lower had a broken strand, and the fore stay was replaced > when it went from roller furling to a carbon fiber head foil. > Cheers, > > Timm Lessley > (Sent from Blackberry) > (503) 863-4019 > > *From*: Allen Edwards [mailto:al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com] > *Sent*: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 08:43 AM > *To*: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Subject*: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Creaking Mast - Problem? (Timm) > > > > Why do you do one a year rather than all at once? > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:26 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> Ruined Main $5,000**** >> >> Ruined Genoa $6,000**** >> >> Ruined rig $40,000**** >> >> Injured sailor $500,000**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> Money saved not replacing shrouds, $1,000**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> [image: >> http://www.turismodecanarias.com/noticias-water-sports-experience/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/101207_puerto_calero_miami.jpg] >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Chris Campbell >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:22 AM >> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Creaking Mast - Problem?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> **** >> >> On 7/11/2011 7:31 PM, Allen Edwards wrote: **** >> >> **** >> >> On the other hand, rigging should be replaced every 10 years. If one of >> the fittings lets go on Papoose and my mast comes down, that is $15,000 to >> $20,000. Just thought I would give the opposing view.**** >> >> >> I'm with you, Allen, except in terms of frequency. Only a decade? Ouch! >> But my boats are in fresh water and also are only in the water half of the >> year. >> >> Chris Campbell >> >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> **** >> >> > >

I think you should do whatever you think is right. Cheers, Timm Lessley (Sent from Blackberry) (503) 863-4019 From: Allen Edwards [mailto:al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 12:59 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Creaking Mast - Problem? (Timm) I would be inclined to replace the set if one showed bad but maybe that is just me. I had to replace the set last time because the mast went up a couple of inches when we put the new mast step in but it was time anyway. Allen On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:51 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com<mailto:ti… [at] ch2m.com>> wrote: At least one. My rigger inspects rig carefully and annually at least one shroud has an indication - so I replace it. This year both uppers had minute pitting under the tape at the upper spreaders. One lower had a broken strand, and the fore stay was replaced when it went from roller furling to a carbon fiber head foil. Cheers, Timm Lessley (Sent from Blackberry) (503) 863-4019<tel:%28503%29%20863-4019> From: Allen Edwards [mailto:al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com<mailto:al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com>] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 08:43 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Creaking Mast - Problem? (Timm) Why do you do one a year rather than all at once? On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:26 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com<mailto:ti… [at] ch2m.com>> wrote: Ruined Main $5,000 Ruined Genoa $6,000 Ruined rig $40,000 Injured sailor $500,000 Money saved not replacing shrouds, $1,000 [cid:image001.jpg@01CC4064.F9DD02E0] From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:22 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Creaking Mast - Problem? On 7/11/2011 7:31 PM, Allen Edwards wrote: On the other hand, rigging should be replaced every 10 years. If one of the fittings lets go on Papoose and my mast comes down, that is $15,000 to $20,000. Just thought I would give the opposing view. I'm with you, Allen, except in terms of frequency. Only a decade? Ouch! But my boats are in fresh water and also are only in the water half of the year. Chris Campbell

Excellent advice. You should as well. And clearly if you have been replacing them as needed, they are all different ages and you clearly need to continue doing it that way which, by the way, sounds very safe. Allen On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:32 PM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: > ** > > > ** I think you should do whatever you think is right. > > > Cheers, > > Timm Lessley > (Sent from Blackberry) > (503) 863-4019 > > > *From*: Allen Edwards [mailto:al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com] > *Sent*: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 12:59 PM > > *To*: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Subject*: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Creaking Mast - Problem? (Timm) > > > > I would be inclined to replace the set if one showed bad but maybe that is > just me. I had to replace the set last time because the mast went up a > couple of inches when we put the new mast step in but it was time anyway. > > Allen > > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:51 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> ** At least one. My rigger inspects rig carefully and annually at least >> one shroud has an indication - so I replace it. >> >> This year both uppers had minute pitting under the tape at the upper >> spreaders. One lower had a broken strand, and the fore stay was replaced >> when it went from roller furling to a carbon fiber head foil. >> Cheers, >> >> Timm Lessley >> (Sent from Blackberry) >> (503) 863-4019 >> >> *From*: Allen Edwards [mailto:al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com] >> *Sent*: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 08:43 AM >> *To*: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> *Subject*: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Creaking Mast - Problem? (Timm) >> >> >> >> Why do you do one a year rather than all at once? >> >> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:26 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: >> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> Ruined Main $5,000**** >>> >>> Ruined Genoa $6,000**** >>> >>> Ruined rig $40,000**** >>> >>> Injured sailor $500,000**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Money saved not replacing shrouds, $1,000**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> [image: >>> http://www.turismodecanarias.com/noticias-water-sports-experience/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/101207_puerto_calero_miami.jpg] >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] *On >>> Behalf Of *Chris Campbell >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:22 AM >>> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Creaking Mast - Problem?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> On 7/11/2011 7:31 PM, Allen Edwards wrote: **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> On the other hand, rigging should be replaced every 10 years. If one of >>> the fittings lets go on Papoose and my mast comes down, that is $15,000 to >>> $20,000. Just thought I would give the opposing view.**** >>> >>> >>> I'm with you, Allen, except in terms of frequency. Only a decade? >>> Ouch! But my boats are in fresh water and also are only in the water half >>> of the year. >>> >>> Chris Campbell >>> >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> >> > >