Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 155 head sail

Mark - What are the dimensions of a Cal 29 155? I still have all my old racing sails from my CS 30 but it was a pretty tall mast at 45' off the water (don't remember the actual hoist). They are all deck sweepers with a bolt rope for a twin groove slotted headstay (we had a Harken furler with the drum removed for racing). I have the following: 1) Quantum Fusion M 155 in excellent shape with very little use (flown maybe 10 times) 2) North #2 135 that has had very little use in good shape. I think there is one repair on it where it hooked a stanchion. 3) North light air 155 string sail that is awesome and has seen the most use 2, maybe 3 seasons and probably weighs all of 20lbs. 4) Dacron #8 that is probably an 80% and is in good to fair shape. No tears but has been recut once to remove the cupping at the leach so it is a little stretched out but it still pulls great and didn't seem to cause any excess heeling. It would get used maybe once a year when the wind would really kick up. Let me know if you think any of these will work for you. Most likely they' need to be modified to work but mods are cheaper than new sails. Paul West Adventure Kwest '80 Cal 39

This calculator might be of use in picking a used sail. It shows the amount the clew is off the deck as well as the LP. Note: you need to enter the headstay angle to your target clew position for it to work. http://l-36.com/LP_calc.php Allen On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:27 AM, <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: > ** > > > Mark - > > What are the dimensions of a Cal 29 155? I still have all my old racing > sails from my CS 30 but it was a pretty tall mast at 45' off the water > (don't remember the actual hoist). They are all deck sweepers with a bolt > rope for a twin groove slotted headstay (we had a Harken furler with the > drum removed for racing). > > I have the following: > > 1) Quantum Fusion M 155 in excellent shape with very little use (flown > maybe 10 times) > 2) North #2 135 that has had very little use in good shape. I think there > is one repair on it where it hooked a stanchion. > 3) North light air 155 string sail that is awesome and has seen the most > use 2, maybe 3 seasons and probably weighs all of 20lbs. > 4) Dacron #8 that is probably an 80% and is in good to fair shape. No > tears but has been recut once to remove the cupping at the leach so it is a > little stretched out but it still pulls great and didn't seem to cause any > excess heeling. It would get used maybe once a year when the wind would > really kick up. > > Let me know if you think any of these will work for you. Most likely they' > need to be modified to work but mods are cheaper than new sails. > > Paul West > Adventure Kwest > '80 Cal 39 > > > > > >

I have been looking at some used inventories for my Cal 2-29. I guess the question is what oz. should I get for a heavy 155 Dacron? The max wind may reach about 24 knots apparent. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Allen Edwards To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 155 head sail This calculator might be of use in picking a used sail. It shows the amount the clew is off the deck as well as the LP. Note: you need to enter the headstay angle to your target clew position for it to work. http://l-36.com/LP_calc.php Allen On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:27 AM, <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: Mark - What are the dimensions of a Cal 29 155? I still have all my old racing sails from my CS 30 but it was a pretty tall mast at 45' off the water (don't remember the actual hoist). They are all deck sweepers with a bolt rope for a twin groove slotted headstay (we had a Harken furler with the drum removed for racing). I have the following: 1) Quantum Fusion M 155 in excellent shape with very little use (flown maybe 10 times) 2) North #2 135 that has had very little use in good shape. I think there is one repair on it where it hooked a stanchion. 3) North light air 155 string sail that is awesome and has seen the most use 2, maybe 3 seasons and probably weighs all of 20lbs. 4) Dacron #8 that is probably an 80% and is in good to fair shape. No tears but has been recut once to remove the cupping at the leach so it is a little stretched out but it still pulls great and didn't seem to cause any excess heeling. It would get used maybe once a year when the wind would really kick up. Let me know if you think any of these will work for you. Most likely they' need to be modified to work but mods are cheaper than new sails. Paul West Adventure Kwest '80 Cal 39 __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6304 (20110718) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6319 (20110723) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Hi Mark, Most racers with displacment boats who believe in the necessity to carry a 130% or greater sail to get their boat to windward need 2 genoas, a lite 4oz and a heavy 6.5 oz that will hold it's shape in 24k apparent. The heavy will not be fast in the 4k t. to 12k t.wind range. If only 1 sail is carried on board without 6 Crew as rail meat it should be the lite #1 My Best, Mkie Farrell --- On Sat, 7/23/11, Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) <ma… [at] cox.net> wrote: From: Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) <ma… [at] cox.net> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 155 head sail To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 23, 2011, 12:52 PM I have been looking at some used inventories for my Cal 2-29. I guess the question is what oz. should I get for a heavy 155 Dacron? The max wind may reach about 24 knots apparent. Mark From: Allen Edwards To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 155 head sail This calculator might be of use in picking a used sail. It shows the amount the clew is off the deck as well as the LP. Note: you need to enter the headstay angle to your target clew position for it to work. http://l-36.com/LP_calc.php Allen On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:27 AM, <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: Mark - What are the dimensions of a Cal 29 155? I still have all my old racing sails from my CS 30 but it was a pretty tall mast at 45' off the water (don't remember the actual hoist). They are all deck sweepers with a bolt rope for a twin groove slotted headstay (we had a Harken furler with the drum removed for racing). I have the following: 1) Quantum Fusion M 155 in excellent shape with very little use (flown maybe 10 times) 2) North #2 135 that has had very little use in good shape. I think there is one repair on it where it hooked a stanchion. 3) North light air 155 string sail that is awesome and has seen the most use 2, maybe 3 seasons and probably weighs all of 20lbs. 4) Dacron #8 that is probably an 80% and is in good to fair shape. No tears but has been recut once to remove the cupping at the leach so it is a little stretched out but it still pulls great and didn't seem to cause any excess heeling. It would get used maybe once a year when the wind would really kick up. Let me know if you think any of these will work for you. Most likely they' need to be modified to work but mods are cheaper than new sails. Paul West Adventure Kwest '80 Cal 39 __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6304 (20110718) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6319 (20110723) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Paul, Just for giggles, I'd be interested in knowing about those sails. Nemesis' dimensions are J=13.5, I=41.5, and luff =41.6. Lapworth specifies 40'4" leach, 21'4" foot for the 150, with an L.P. of 20.25'. I have a Harken MK 1, and just bypass the drum when I race. I'd likely convert one of the 150's for the furler. Thanks, Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma ol… [at] seanet.com On Jul 18, 2011, at 8:27 AM, pw… [at] aol.com wrote: > > Mark - > > What are the dimensions of a Cal 29 155? I still have all my old > racing sails from my CS 30 but it was a pretty tall mast at 45' off > the water (don't remember the actual hoist). They are all deck > sweepers with a bolt rope for a twin groove slotted headstay (we > had a Harken furler with the drum removed for racing). > > I have the following: > > 1) Quantum Fusion M 155 in excellent shape with very little use > (flown maybe 10 times) > 2) North #2 135 that has had very little use in good shape. I > think there is one repair on it where it hooked a stanchion. > 3) North light air 155 string sail that is awesome and has seen > the most use 2, maybe 3 seasons and probably weighs all of 20lbs. > 4) Dacron #8 that is probably an 80% and is in good to fair > shape. No tears but has been recut once to remove the cupping at > the leach so it is a little stretched out but it still pulls great > and didn't seem to cause any excess heeling. It would get used > maybe once a year when the wind would really kick up. > > Let me know if you think any of these will work for you. Most > likely they' need to be modified to work but mods are cheaper than > new sails. > > Paul West > Adventure Kwest > '80 Cal 39 > > > > >

Thanks Mike, most of the racing that I will do is local (San Pedro CA) in Hurricane Gulch afternoon wind. So I have to evaluate the anticipated crew #'s and decide between a heavy 135-140% with a crew of about 3-4 or a-150-155% with a crew of 4 or more. I do like the light weight 155% for light air racing, but I have found in a pinch with the heavy can work in the 4-12 knots if you change the sheets to 1/8". Then when the wind picks up change back. I would rather change sheets than sail if it will keep the sail full and boat moving. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: mike farrell To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 155 head sail Hi Mark, Most racers with displacment boats who believe in the necessity to carry a 130% or greater sail to get their boat to windward need 2 genoas, a lite 4oz and a heavy 6.5 oz that will hold it's shape in 24k apparent. The heavy will not be fast in the 4k t. to 12k t.wind range. If only 1 sail is carried on board without 6 Crew as rail meat it should be the lite #1 My Best, Mkie Farrell --- On Sat, 7/23/11, Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) <ma… [at] cox.net> wrote: From: Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) <ma… [at] cox.net> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 155 head sail To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 23, 2011, 12:52 PM I have been looking at some used inventories for my Cal 2-29. I guess the question is what oz. should I get for a heavy 155 Dacron? The max wind may reach about 24 knots apparent. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Allen Edwards To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 155 head sail This calculator might be of use in picking a used sail. It shows the amount the clew is off the deck as well as the LP. Note: you need to enter the headstay angle to your target clew position for it to work. http://l-36.com/LP_calc.php Allen On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:27 AM, <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: Mark - What are the dimensions of a Cal 29 155? I still have all my old racing sails from my CS 30 but it was a pretty tall mast at 45' off the water (don't remember the actual hoist). They are all deck sweepers with a bolt rope for a twin groove slotted headstay (we had a Harken furler with the drum removed for racing). I have the following: 1) Quantum Fusion M 155 in excellent shape with very little use (flown maybe 10 times) 2) North #2 135 that has had very little use in good shape. I think there is one repair on it where it hooked a stanchion. 3) North light air 155 string sail that is awesome and has seen the most use 2, maybe 3 seasons and probably weighs all of 20lbs. 4) Dacron #8 that is probably an 80% and is in good to fair shape. No tears but has been recut once to remove the cupping at the leach so it is a little stretched out but it still pulls great and didn't seem to cause any excess heeling. It would get used maybe once a year when the wind would really kick up. Let me know if you think any of these will work for you. Most likely they' need to be modified to work but mods are cheaper than new sails. Paul West Adventure Kwest '80 Cal 39 __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6304 (20110718) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6319 (20110723) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6321 (20110724) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6321 (20110724) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

How does a Med Mylar rate against a 6.5 Dac. In other words will the med mylar work for the heavy 155% Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 155 head sail From the Cal 29 "Sail Locker" : 150% Genoa 5 oz Dac. Luff=36'6", Foot 19'11", Leech 34' 6" LP18'6" #3 Genoa 6.5 oz Dac Luff=31'.0, Foot 19.0, Leech 30'.1" LP17' 9" Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Haas To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 155 head sail Paul, Just for giggles, I'd be interested in knowing about those sails. Nemesis' dimensions are J=13.5, I=41.5, and luff =41.6. Lapworth specifies 40'4" leach, 21'4" foot for the 150, with an L.P. of 20.25'. I have a Harken MK 1, and just bypass the drum when I race. I'd likely convert one of the 150's for the furler. Thanks, Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma ol… [at] seanet.com On Jul 18, 2011, at 8:27 AM, pw… [at] aol.com wrote: Mark - What are the dimensions of a Cal 29 155? I still have all my old racing sails from my CS 30 but it was a pretty tall mast at 45' off the water (don't remember the actual hoist). They are all deck sweepers with a bolt rope for a twin groove slotted headstay (we had a Harken furler with the drum removed for racing). I have the following: 1) Quantum Fusion M 155 in excellent shape with very little use (flown maybe 10 times) 2) North #2 135 that has had very little use in good shape. I think there is one repair on it where it hooked a stanchion. 3) North light air 155 string sail that is awesome and has seen the most use 2, maybe 3 seasons and probably weighs all of 20lbs. 4) Dacron #8 that is probably an 80% and is in good to fair shape. No tears but has been recut once to remove the cupping at the leach so it is a little stretched out but it still pulls great and didn't seem to cause any excess heeling. It would get used maybe once a year when the wind would really kick up. Let me know if you think any of these will work for you. Most likely they' need to be modified to work but mods are cheaper than new sails. Paul West Adventure Kwest '80 Cal 39 __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6321 (20110724) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6321 (20110724) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6321 (20110724) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6321 (20110724) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com