8 messages2011-09-06 14:22 UTCthrough 2011-09-08 19:09 UTC
Re: supplies and a bulb question
Bert Pesak2011-09-06 14:22 UTC
Try a Recreation Vehicle store for the butyl tape. I bought some this
spring for bedding 2 small hatches.
Bert Pesak
Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: supplies and a bulb question
Adam Thorp2011-09-06 16:40 UTC
http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape
I just bought a couple rolls to seal hardware to deck.
That site also double's as a great howto/reference site. Lots of great, wall
thought out pictures illustrating his points (he being MainSail from the
forums)
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Bert Pesak <bj… [at] gmail.com> wrote:
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> Try a Recreation Vehicle store for the butyl tape. I bought some this
> spring for bedding 2 small hatches.
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: supplies and a bulb question
Harleigh Ewell2011-09-08 02:39 UTC
I notice this tape is ½ wide. Is it suitable for bedding things like
stanchions? If so, how do you do it, and has anyone had experience using
it. Life expectancy?
Harleigh Ewell
Cal 31
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Adam Thorp
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:40 PM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: supplies and a bulb question
http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape
I just bought a couple rolls to seal hardware to deck.
That site also double's as a great howto/reference site. Lots of great, wall
thought out pictures illustrating his points (he being MainSail from the
forums)
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Bert Pesak <bj… [at] gmail.com> wrote:
Try a Recreation Vehicle store for the butyl tape. I bought some this
spring for bedding 2 small hatches.
Bert Pesak
Re: [Cal_Boats] Now Butyl Tape Re: supplies and a bulb question
Wayne Gillikin2011-09-08 14:44 UTC
Look here
http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?p=705340#post705340
I sure hope this guy knows what he's talking about. This stuff looks like a great solution if it is all he says.
Regards,
Wayne
From: Harleigh Ewell <hp… [at] hpewell.com>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 10:39 PM
Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: supplies and a bulb question
I notice this tape is ½” wide. Is it suitable for bedding things like stanchions? If so, how do you do it, and has anyone had experience using it. Life expectancy?
Harleigh Ewell
Cal 31
From:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Adam Thorp
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:40 PM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: supplies and a bulb question
http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape
I just bought a couple rolls to seal hardware to deck.
That site also double's as a great howto/reference site. Lots of great, wall thought out pictures illustrating his points (he being MainSail from the forums)
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Bert Pesak <bj… [at] gmail.com> wrote:
Try a Recreation Vehicle store for the butyl tape. I bought some this spring for bedding 2 small hatches.
Bert Pesak
Re: [Cal_Boats] Now Butyl Tape Re: supplies and a bulb question
Chris Campbell2011-09-08 15:23 UTC
On 9/8/2011 10:44 AM, Wayne Gillikin wrote:
> Look here
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> http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?p=705340#post705340
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> I sure hope this guy knows what he's talking about. This stuff looks
> like a great solution if it is all he says.
I like his approach, and agree with (1) his criticism of the Don Casey
method, and (2) his label for 3M 5200--"Satan's glue."
Chris Campbell
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Now Butyl Tape Re: supplies and a bulb question
Wayne Gillikin2011-09-08 15:51 UTC
Here is a "companion" site that gives the pros & cons of Butyl Tape. Looks like the downside is its sensitivity to chemicals.
http://blog.dankim.com/2009/04/24/marine-sealants/
After reading all this stuff it looks like its butyl and polysulfide for general sealing tasks and 5200 for things you absolutely, positively never want to get apart again.
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Now Butyl Tape Re: supplies and a bulb question
Allen Edwards2011-09-08 16:30 UTC
A good rule of thumb is to never use 5200 for anything on a boat. If you
want to make a permanent bond, use West System.
I use Silkaflex 291 LOT that I get from http://www.lfsmarineoutdoor.com/ for
about $13. If you cork the end of the tube with a metal or wood dowell and
clamp the cork with a hose clamp and apply pressure with the calking gun it
will keep air out and an opened tub will last months. This trick will not
work with 4200.
But just remember this -- never use 5200 for anything. I used it to hold
the tile soap holder in my shower. I have seen it used to hold a windshield
on a car. Just don't use it on your boat.
Allen
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Wayne Gillikin <wa… [at] yahoo.com>wrote:
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> Here is a "companion" site that gives the pros & cons of Butyl Tape. Looks
> like the downside is its sensitivity to chemicals.
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> http://blog.dankim.com/2009/04/24/marine-sealants/
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> After reading all this stuff it looks like its butyl and polysulfide for
> general sealing tasks and 5200 for things you absolutely, positively never
> want to get apart again.
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: supplies and a bulb question
Adam Thorp2011-09-08 19:09 UTC
I just bedded a teak stopper bank and winch standoff. Laid down strips next
to each other- the strips have some thickness and when you tighten the
blocks down, most squeeze out and the material that doesn't, fills in the
gaps. Make sure to oversize the holes, fill with epoxy, after cure, drill
new holes to size, countersink those holes to create a place for the butyl
tape to create a nice gasket.
Theirs a great write up on that site about how to do all this.
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Harleigh Ewell <hp… [at] hpewell.com> wrote:
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> it. Life expectancy?****
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:40 PM
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