Re: Newbe seeking clarification

Welcome, Chris. I've got nothing to add about your question, but just wanted to tell you that you've come to the right place (as if you didn't figure that out already). I've made the reverse journey -- we went from a Cal 29 to a Tartan 34C - but I still hang out here because the folks are so great and there's so much to learn here. (And I try to contribute my two cents when I can.) We sail on the northern end of the Chesapeake, and if Lapworth had designed a centerboarder, we might still be sailing a Cal. (I'm very pleased with Olin Stephens' design of our Tartan, however, so I have no regrets.) Fair winds, Alfred Poor 1973 Tartan 34C #288 "Jambalaya"

Olin Stephens and his brother Rod will remain in the pantheon of Sailing Gods with Herreshoff, Rhodes, Bill Lee, Gary Mull and Carl Schumacher, as well as Bill Lapworth. As a former owner of 8 Cal 20's from 1971 to 2010 with a S&S and a Bill Lee design in between we can appreciate what it takes to design a really "breakthru boat" I now sail Yellow Jack USA 57313 SC 27 Hull 58 a yellow 1976 Santa Cruz 27. There may be another Cal 20(#9) in my future b4 a swallow the anchor! Sail On! My Best, Mike Farrell From: Alfred Poor <ap… [at] verizon.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 6:28 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Newbe seeking clarification Welcome, Chris. I’ve got nothing to add about your question, but just wanted to tell you that you’ve come to the right place (as if you didn’t figure that out already). I’ve made the reverse journey -- we went from a Cal 29 to a Tartan 34C – but I still hang out here because the folks are so great and there’s so much to learn here. (And I try to contribute my two cents when I can.) We sail on the northern end of the Chesapeake, and if Lapworth had designed a centerboarder, we might still be sailing a Cal. (I’m very pleased with Olin Stephens’ design of our Tartan, however, so I have no regrets.) Fair winds, Alfred Poor 1973 Tartan 34C #288 “Jambalaya”

On 9/8/2011 7:45 PM, mike farrell wrote: > Olin Stephens and his brother Rod will remain in the pantheon of > Sailing Gods with Herreshoff, Rhodes, Bill Lee, Gary Mull and Carl > Schumacher, as well as Bill Lapworth. As a former owner of 8 Cal > 20's from 1971 to 2010 with a S&S and a Bill Lee design in between we > can appreciate what it takes to design a really "breakthru boat" I > now sail Yellow Jack USA 57313 SC 27 Hull 58 a yellow 1976 Santa Cruz > 27. There may be another Cal 20(#9) in my future b4 a swallow the > anchor! Sail On! Old Cal 20 #1220 sailed in some high winds and big seas (all relatively speaking, of course) Wednesday night. I had skipped sailing Tues. because it was blowing out of the north, it was a bit chilly, and I wasn't sure I wanted to bang around and get all wet. But things looked calmer Wed. until I got out there. I reefed, and as usual felt a bit silly about it until I got out in the seas and rising north wind. I also flew my storm jib. The boat needed a tiny bit more power to maintain speed in the seas but the working jib might have been too much. The foredeck got wet but I didn't. Luckily, the wind diminished about the time the sun was setting--earlier every day now--and I was able to sail onto my mooring. Getting back onto the mooring when the waves are rolling in is my usual anxiety provoker. And as usual, the problems were all in the skipper's head and not in the boat's design. In any event, when the little boat sails so well, I am always grateful to Bill Lapworth and to Jensen Marine for the fine boat. A few years back a bunch of us local schooner sailors chartered the famous schooner /Brilliant/ at Mystic Seaport. She was one of Olin Stephens's early successes and was built to high standards by the Nevins yard. In her inaugural season (1932?) she had crossed the Atlantic in record time. Cool boats are one of mankind's great accomplishments. Chris Campbell >

Don't forget about Charlie Morgan. Marc Gottlieb Tel: 706.294.4344 E-mail: mg… [at] comcast.net From: "Chris Campbell" <cc… [at] lsnm.org> To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 9:37:03 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Newbe seeking clarification On 9/8/2011 7:45 PM, mike farrell wrote: Olin Stephens and his brother Rod will remain in the pantheon of Sailing Gods with Herreshoff, Rhodes, Bill Lee, Gary Mull and Carl Schumacher, as well as Bill Lapworth. As a former owner of 8 Cal 20's from 1971 to 2010 with a S&S and a Bill Lee design in between we can appreciate what it takes to design a really "breakthru boat" I now sail Yellow Jack USA 57313 SC 27 Hull 58 a yellow 1976 Santa Cruz 27. There may be another Cal 20(#9) in my future b4 a swallow the anchor! Sail On! Old Cal 20 #1220 sailed in some high winds and big seas (all relatively speaking, of course) Wednesday night. I had skipped sailing Tues. because it was blowing out of the north, it was a bit chilly, and I wasn't sure I wanted to bang around and get all wet. But things looked calmer Wed. until I got out there. I reefed, and as usual felt a bit silly about it until I got out in the seas and rising north wind. I also flew my storm jib. The boat needed a tiny bit more power to maintain speed in the seas but the working jib might have been too much. The foredeck got wet but I didn't. Luckily, the wind diminished about the time the sun was setting--earlier every day now--and I was able to sail onto my mooring. Getting back onto the mooring when the waves are rolling in is my usual anxiety provoker. And as usual, the problems were all in the skipper's head and not in the boat's design. In any event, when the little boat sails so well, I am always grateful to Bill Lapworth and to Jensen Marine for the fine boat. A few years back a bunch of us local schooner sailors chartered the famous schooner Brilliant at Mystic Seaport. She was one of Olin Stephens's early successes and was built to high standards by the Nevins yard. In her inaugural season (1932?) she had crossed the Atlantic in record time. Cool boats are one of mankind's great accomplishments. Chris Campbell

Not all the members of the pantheon are designers and builders. I had lunch a couple of weeks ago with George Griffith, the man who came up with the Cal 40 concept and asked Bill Lapworth to design it. George and his brother sailed in the 1941 Transpac. He now drives a big powerboat to Catalina on weekends. He reminds me of the place that Bobby Jones has in golf. George earned his living as an engineer while sailing was a hobby. MIke Kennedy On Sep 9, 2011, at 12:53 PM, mg… [at] comcast.net wrote: > > Don't forget about Charlie Morgan. > > Marc Gottlieb > Tel: 706.294.4344 > E-mail: mg… [at] comcast.net > > > From: "Chris Campbell" <cc… [at] lsnm.org> > To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 9:37:03 AM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Newbe seeking clarification > > > On 9/8/2011 7:45 PM, mike farrell wrote: > > > Olin Stephens and his brother Rod will remain in the pantheon of > Sailing Gods with Herreshoff, Rhodes, Bill Lee, Gary Mull and Carl > Schumacher, as well as Bill Lapworth. As a former owner of 8 Cal > 20's from 1971 to 2010 with a S&S and a Bill Lee design in between > we can appreciate what it takes to design a really "breakthru boat" > I now sail Yellow Jack USA 57313 SC 27 Hull 58 a yellow 1976 Santa > Cruz 27. There may be another Cal 20(#9) in my future b4 a swallow > the anchor! Sail On! > > Old Cal 20 #1220 sailed in some high winds and big seas (all > relatively speaking, of course) Wednesday night. I had skipped > sailing Tues. because it was blowing out of the north, it was a bit > chilly, and I wasn't sure I wanted to bang around and get all wet. > But things looked calmer Wed. until I got out there. I reefed, and > as usual felt a bit silly about it until I got out in the seas and > rising north wind. I also flew my storm jib. The boat needed a > tiny bit more power to maintain speed in the seas but the working > jib might have been too much. The foredeck got wet but I didn't. > Luckily, the wind diminished about the time the sun was setting-- > earlier every day now--and I was able to sail onto my mooring. > Getting back onto the mooring when the waves are rolling in is my > usual anxiety provoker. And as usual, the problems were all in the > skipper's head and not in the boat's design. > > In any event, when the little boat sails so well, I am always > grateful to Bill Lapworth and to Jensen Marine for the fine boat. > > A few years back a bunch of us local schooner sailors chartered the > famous schooner Brilliant at Mystic Seaport. She was one of Olin > Stephens's early successes and was built to high standards by the > Nevins yard. In her inaugural season (1932?) she had crossed the > Atlantic in record time. > > Cool boats are one of mankind's great accomplishments. > > Chris Campbell > > > > >