Cal 40 Concept (was newbie clarification)

In a message dated 9/10/2011 3:07:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mi… [at] mac.com writes: George Griffith, the man who came up with the Cal 40 concept Never heard this before . . . wonder what words he used to describe his concept "offshore, light, fast, fiberglass, fin keel" ?? Who funded the work and the construction of the boat? I don't know if any of you guys remember, but there was a boat a few years ago that was designed by Bob Perry that was built to be able to be shipped in a container. Bob is a friend of a friend and I was asking him about the Cal 39 before I bought it and out of curiosity I asked him about this "container" boat. He said it was definitely not his idea but was asked to design it, so he did for a nice fee I am certain. I went aboard it at the Annapolis Boat Show and it was quite roomy below actually, but just didn't feel right as it was so far from the norm. I am quite sure the idea never took off. Paul

Paul, That concept became the Flying Tiger. It was designed to fit into a container. They are made in China,(duh!), and we have some here in Chicago. I think they are classified as sport boats. I don't know who actually designed it, but ask the internet. Regards, David Dobbs, CAL29 411 --- On Sat, 9/10/11, pw… [at] aol.com <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: From: pw… [at] aol.com <pw… [at] aol.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 40 Concept (was newbie clarification) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, September 10, 2011, 3:32 PM In a message dated 9/10/2011 3:07:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mi… [at] mac.com writes: George Griffith, the man who came up with the Cal 40 concept Never heard this before . . . wonder what words he used to describe his concept "offshore, light, fast, fiberglass, fin keel" ?? Who funded the work and the construction of the boat? I don't know if any of you guys remember, but there was a boat a few years ago that was designed by Bob Perry that was built to be able to be shipped in a container. Bob is a friend of a friend and I was asking him about the Cal 39 before I bought it and out of curiosity I asked him about this "container" boat. He said it was definitely not his idea but was asked to design it, so he did for a nice fee I am certain. I went aboard it at the Annapolis Boat Show and it was quite roomy below actually, but just didn't feel right as it was so far from the norm. I am quite sure the idea never took off. Paul

The Flying Tiger, designed by Bob Perry, does ship in a container but it's a 32ft sport boat. The boat Paul is referring to (also designed by Bob Perry around the time the Flying Tiger came out) is this one: http://www.sailingmagazine.net/component/content/article/3-perry-on-design/171-far-harbour-39-perry?directory=1 It was a motorsailer that could be reasonably easily shipped around the world in a standard 40' container when you had the itch to sail somewhere else far from where you were :) -- Raffaele On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 3:14 PM, david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > Paul, > That concept became the Flying Tiger. It was designed to fit into a > container. They are made in China,(duh!), and we have some here in > Chicago. I think they are classified as sport boats. I don't know who > actually designed it, but ask the internet. > Regards, > David Dobbs, CAL29 411 > > > --- On *Sat, 9/10/11, pw… [at] aol.com <pw… [at] aol.com>* wrote: > > > From: pw… [at] aol.com <pw… [at] aol.com> > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 40 Concept (was newbie clarification) > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, September 10, 2011, 3:32 PM > > > > In a message dated 9/10/2011 3:07:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > mi… [at] mac.com writes: > > George Griffith, the man who came up > with the Cal 40 concept > > > > Never heard this before . . . wonder what words he used to describe his > concept "offshore, light, fast, fiberglass, fin keel" ?? Who funded the > work and the construction of the boat? > > I don't know if any of you guys remember, but there was a boat a few years > ago that was designed by Bob Perry that was built to be able to be shipped > in a container. Bob is a friend of a friend and I was asking him about the > Cal 39 before I bought it and out of curiosity I asked him about this > "container" boat. He said it was definitely not his idea but was asked to > design it, so he did for a nice fee I am certain. I went aboard it at the > Annapolis Boat Show and it was quite roomy below actually, but just didn't > feel right as it was so far from the norm. I am quite sure the idea never > took off. > > Paul > > >

On Sep 10, 2011, at 1:32 PM, pw… [at] aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 9/10/2011 3:07:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mi… [at] mac.com > writes: > George Griffith, the man who came up > with the Cal 40 concept > > > Never heard this before . . . wonder what words he used to describe > his concept "offshore, light, fast, fiberglass, fin keel" ?? Who > funded the work and the construction of the boat? Jensen told Griffith he had to guarantee ten boats before he would make the plug and build the mold. Griffith got ten people to sign up and a year later, they were building Cal 40s with three molds as fast as they could turn them out. There were eventually 177 of them. About 150 are still sailing. The concept was the spade rudder and fin keel, plus light and fast. George had a Lapworth 36 but inside it was too small for his family. Mike Kennedy