FW: repor d'twahlay

During our spring visit to "Submit" we removed the existing marine head, plumbing and holding bladder and installed a composting head. Several have asked about how the change is working out. Well, here's the straight poop. So far it has been great. No clogs. No folding of used papel d'twahlay and stuffing it into a bag. No odors like the old system. In fact, virtually odorless, and if we do catch a whiff of something, it just smells like peat moss. It does a great job of separating liquid from solid. All must sit to use, but regardless of gender, it directs properly. It has been fully fired up for 17 days, and the solids area is not even close to being ready for emptying, which will entail dumping it into a trash bag and depositing in a dumpster. No cleaning is required since any remaining residue helps kick start the next batch. The liquid receptacle fills in about 2 days of steady coffee drinking. We have two of the "jugs". They are sealed with a lid before removal, easily removed or changed, and emptied at the next stop with a restroom, or occasionally over the side (as if you had held it for 2 days and then let go over the side all in one shot!) We can see where choice of papel d'twahlay would have an impact since some breaks down much more readily than others. All in all, we're feelin' flushed! Reggie

Well, it looks like we have made plans for going to Annapolis this year. Current plans are to go to the Thursday-Friday show and leave on Saturday. Anyone else going or presenting at this years show? GOBR? John R Cal 33

Hi John, Darr here. We are going on Thursday and we should get together. My Call 33 is just across Spa Creek from the show and we can go down and get a drink at EYC, also. I have to work Wednesday and Friday, so Thursday is the only day I can go. Let me know what you are up for. Darr _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john raxter Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:12 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Annapolis Boat show Well, it looks like we have made plans for going to Annapolis this year. Current plans are to go to the Thursday-Friday show and leave on Saturday. Anyone else going or presenting at this years show? GOBR? John R Cal 33

HI, All. John mentioned the GOBR (Annapolis). I thought some folks on the list might not know about it. Here is some recent stuff from the publicity bin to explain a little of it to any newbies. GOBR is a fun thing. Just somewhat painful (sometimes) being on the organizing putting-on side. We did have a CAL 29 one-design going for a while, and the CAL 25s always race. I need to go back to my archives to find a group shot we took of all the CAL skippers a few years back. Cheers Charlie Bulletin from the Good Old Boat Regatta in Annapolis October 8-9, Annapolis, MD The Good Old Boat Regatta in Annapolis is now in its 12th year in Annapolis, MD. The "Sailing Regatta for the Rest of Us" has always been structured to provide a fun, informal racing venue for boats of "some maturity". Until now, the "GOBR" has only allowed boats whose first hull was built no later than 1975 to participate, but times change (as do we all). The Regatta now permits boats designed up to 1980 to come out for the fun. The change took a lot of thought since boat designs started to change in that time frame (materials and hulls) and the GOBR wants only classic boats on the line. The organizers of the event will make sure that "classic" plastic and wood remain the rule. However, some things never change. The GOBR still provides a bunch of items that celebrate our vessels and the people who sail them. * Two days of informal racing in the company of really neat boats and people on Government mark courses * A chance to race "one design" if three or more boats of a common design participate (spinnakers not used in handicap classes or optional for one design) * Free parties both days with awards, food, libations, and music each day * Participation open for one day (pick either day) or two days of racing * A chance to sail with boats of your hull type (handicap classes include fin keel and full keel starts) * Overnight mooring in quiet water at the party site with tender service * A chance to combine some racing fun with a visit to the Annapolis Boat Show that weekend * A visit from the great folks at Good Old Boat Magazine, "The Sailing Magazine for the Rest of Us" * A chance to get a run-down on the race format and some basic racing rules at the Skippers Meeting on Friday night October 7 (at the party site in Mill Creek - mandatory for first timers) If you would like to get in on the GOBR, or just find out more about the event, please go to the Shearwater Sailing Club web site at www.shearwatersc.net<http://www.shearwatersc.net> You can also contact Charlie Husar at hu… [at] bah.com<mailto:hu… [at] bah.com> or call 410-266-6216 The GOBR has always been flexible to accommodate the desires of our sailors. We build the racing fleets around the boat designs of the boats entered. Entry dates are not hard and fast, but the organizers do need to know if you are coming so that we can structure the fleets and starts. If you plan on coming, just drop your application in the mail, but also let Charlie know your name, boat name, boat make and model, and what day(s) you want to participate. Charlie has been on the road a lot (business, unfortunately) of late, and he requests that, if you call, please leave a message and he will get back to you. The E-Mail address is the best way to get in touch with him right now. The Annapolis GOBR folks look forward to seeing you (and your Good Old Boat) on the second weekend in October. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john raxter Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:12 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Annapolis Boat show Well, it looks like we have made plans for going to Annapolis this year. Current plans are to go to the Thursday-Friday show and leave on Saturday. Anyone else going or presenting at this years show? GOBR? John R Cal 33

I have uploaded the photo of the Cal Listees who participated in GOBR 2004 -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/photos/album/1943428748/pic/1050\ 028675/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/photos/album/1943428748/pic/105\ 0028675/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc> -- in an album that I created called GOBR 2004. The photo is annotated with their names and boat model. (I also uploaded a photo of the infamous "Cals Rule" koozies.) Alfred --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)" <husar_charlie@...> wrote: > > HI, All. John mentioned the GOBR (Annapolis). I thought some folks on the list might not know about it. Here is some recent stuff from the publicity bin to explain a little of it to any newbies. GOBR is a fun thing. Just somewhat painful (sometimes) being on the organizing putting-on side. We did have a CAL 29 one-design going for a while, and the CAL 25s always race. I need to go back to my archives to find a group shot we took of all the CAL skippers a few years back. > > Cheers > Charlie

Hello Everyone, I'm looking to replace, my now dead, Navico WP5000 Wheelpilot (does anyone want it??) on Magic, as we are planning another trip to the Bahamas next summer for Regatta Time in Abaco. I remember there has been some discussion on auto pilots in the past. Yes, Magic has a wheel. Cables between the pedestal and quadrant is via a pull-pull conduit setup. A below-the-deck autopilot option is not promising, as they are either hydraulic or cost prohibitive. As of now, about the only thing I can find on the market is the Raymarine SmartPilot X-5 Wheel autopilot. I have read mixed reviews about its durability. Any suggestions? Thanks!

I have one and no complaints so far. The biggest issue with these is to keep the inner wheel clean and grit free as it chews belts and increases friction. The other thing I noticed is that placement of the compass they provide is critical. I finally ended up mounting mine with Velcro till I fond a satiable spot. Mine is located in the head apposite side of the compression post and pointed forward. Locations gave me the best numbers on swinging the compass which I had to do three times. The system likes calm waters, the calmer the better to set it all up. Other then that for the money, I paid 1100 all in its about as good as it gets. I am not overly impressed with the wheel drive system but the electronic side is very good as there is a lot of data that you can both get and input to this system. You navigator will be very happy on that side of the equation. /ch On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Michael D <md… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Hello Everyone, > > I'm looking to replace, my now dead, Navico WP5000 Wheelpilot (does anyone > want it??) on Magic, as we are planning another trip to the Bahamas next > summer for Regatta Time in Abaco. I remember there has been some discussion > on auto pilots in the past. > > Yes, Magic has a wheel. Cables between the pedestal and quadrant is via a > pull-pull conduit setup. A below-the-deck autopilot option is not > promising, as they are either hydraulic or cost prohibitive. > > As of now, about the only thing I can find on the market is the Raymarine > SmartPilot X-5 Wheel autopilot. I have read mixed reviews about its > durability. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks! > > > > > -- /ch

if we can find a cheap place to stay in the Annapolic area, and figure out the transportation arrangements, we may go for a day or two after "Submit" ia put to bed in North Carolina. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: jr… [at] triad.rr.com Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 19:11:47 -0400 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Annapolis Boat show Well, it looks like we have made plans for going to Annapolis this year. Current plans are to go to the Thursday-Friday show and leave on Saturday. Anyone else going or presenting at this years show? GOBR? John R Cal 33

Chris, Thank you for your advice and input. I read a post on sailnet (http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-maintenance/78755-well-theres-your-problem-trashed-my-wheel-pilot.html) that the planetary/orbital gears are plastic, and they have a tendency to lose teeth. Of course, he was in some heavy seas, but isn't that when everything goes wrong? Googling indicated that his ketch is ~ 9,900 lbs displacement. Magic is a 6,700 lb Cal 2-27, so I suspect that I'll have a lot less torque at the helm. What size/displacement is yours? --Michael-- From: chris123 <ch… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Auto Pilot (All) I have one and no complaints so far. The biggest issue with these is to keep the inner wheel clean and grit free as it chews belts and increases friction. The other thing I noticed is that placement of the compass they provide is critical. I finally ended up mounting mine with Velcro till I fond a satiable spot. Mine is located in the head apposite side of the compression post and pointed forward. Locations gave me the best numbers on swinging the compass which I had to do three times. The system likes calm waters, the calmer the better to set it all up. Other then that for the money, I paid 1100 all in its about as good as it gets. I am not overly impressed with the wheel drive system but the electronic side is very good as there is a lot of data that you can both get and input to this system. You navigator will be very happy on that side of the equation. /ch On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Michael D <md… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > >Hello Everyone, > > >I'm looking to replace, my now dead, Navico WP5000 Wheelpilot (does anyone want it??) on Magic, as we are planning another trip to the Bahamas next summer for Regatta Time in Abaco. I remember there has been some discussion on auto pilots in the past. > > >Yes, Magic has a wheel. Cables between the pedestal and quadrant is via a pull-pull conduit setup. A below-the-deck autopilot option is not promising, as they are either hydraulic or cost prohibitive. > > > >As of now, about the only thing I can find on the market is the Raymarine SmartPilot X-5 Wheel autopilot. I have read mixed reviews about its durability. > > >Any suggestions? > > >Thanks! > > > > > > -- /ch

I have to admit, at strange Marinas sometimes I'll park in an empty slip that looks like it hasn't been used for some time, typically, without mooring lines, and with some birdie left-overs like mussel shells and white wash. If your only there overnight, and are real quiet...... Shhhhh! I didn't write this, right? Maybe it's an advantage I have with a small boat with low freeboard. Jerry From: r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 8:03 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Annapolis Boat show if we can find a cheap place to stay in the Annapolic area, and figure out the transportation arrangements, we may go for a day or two after "Submit" ia put to bed in North Carolina. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: jr… [at] triad.rr.com Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 19:11:47 -0400 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Annapolis Boat show Well, it looks like we have made plans for going to Annapolis this year. Current plans are to go to the Thursday-Friday show and leave on Saturday. Anyone else going or presenting at this years show? GOBR? John R Cal 33

Cal 3-29....see: http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=1064 about 8Klbs but thats unloaded and empty tanks. The issue with this piece of kit is that it needs to be treated gently, well aligned and clean. When in use, I toss a bucket of water over the ring on the wheel, and check the drive alignment regularly. I tend to not over tighten the clutch mechanism. Once I can afford it a good used wind vane will be added and the raymarine unit relegated to backup and when on auxiliary. Power consumption is reasonable, wind is free of course if your looking at the energy equation. /ch On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Michael D <md… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Chris, > > Thank you for your advice and input. I read a post on sailnet ( > http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-maintenance/78755-well-theres-your-problem-trashed-my-wheel-pilot.html) > that the planetary/orbital gears are plastic, and they have a tendency to > lose teeth. Of course, he was in some heavy seas, but isn't that when > everything goes wrong? Googling indicated that his ketch is ~ 9,900 lbs > displacement. > > Magic is a 6,700 lb Cal 2-27, so I suspect that I'll have a lot less torque > at the helm. What size/displacement is yours? > > --Michael-- > > ------------------------------ > *From:* chris123 <ch… [at] gmail.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:57 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Auto Pilot (All) > > > I have one and no complaints so far. The biggest issue with these is to > keep the inner wheel clean and grit free as it chews belts and increases > friction. The other thing I noticed is that placement of the compass they > provide is critical. I finally ended up mounting mine with Velcro till I > fond a satiable spot. Mine is located in the head apposite side of the > compression post and pointed forward. Locations gave me the best numbers on > swinging the compass which I had to do three times. The system likes calm > waters, the calmer the better to set it all up. Other then that for the > money, I paid 1100 all in its about as good as it gets. I am not overly > impressed with the wheel drive system but the electronic side is very good > as there is a lot of data that you can both get and input to this system. > You navigator will be very happy on that side of the equation. > > /ch > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Michael D <md… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Hello Everyone, > > I'm looking to replace, my now dead, Navico WP5000 Wheelpilot (does anyone > want it??) on Magic, as we are planning another trip to the Bahamas next > summer for Regatta Time in Abaco. I remember there has been some discussion > on auto pilots in the past. > > Yes, Magic has a wheel. Cables between the pedestal and quadrant is via a > pull-pull conduit setup. A below-the-deck autopilot option is not > promising, as they are either hydraulic or cost prohibitive. > > As of now, about the only thing I can find on the market is the Raymarine > SmartPilot X-5 Wheel autopilot. I have read mixed reviews about its > durability. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > -- > /ch > > > > > > > -- /ch