Fuel Filter and Base for W30

We have a 1979 Cal 34 with Westerbeke 30 engine. We stripped the threads in our fuel filter base which took a Wix 33166 fuel filter. So, we ordered the new Westerbeke fuel filter assembly #19509 because the old one was discounted. It looks like the flow is reversed from the old model so we hooked it up to match the arrows. However....the old banjo nut is longer than the new one and has a smaller hole in it, whereas the new banjo nut on the top is so short that we can't get the old banjo fitting around it and have threads to screw into the filter base. The new one also has a bigger hole in it (which is why, we're assuming, we were having high rev issues as in our previous post). Does anyone know what banjo fitting I need for this? Or, does anyone know a different fuel filter base we can use that is more similar to the old (original) one? The old fuel filter is type FS with part number 5836B020, whereas the new one is type FS with part number 5836B710. Thanks for the help Bix and Krystin Alaska

I don't understand what you did to your old filter base but perhaps repairing it would be easier than dealing with the new one. If it is just a stripped thread, perhaps a heli-coil would fix it. My engine block has several and they are stronger than not having them. Allen On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:35 PM, reveraterraa <kb… [at] gmail.com> wrote: > ** > > > We have a 1979 Cal 34 with Westerbeke 30 engine. We stripped the threads in > our fuel filter base which took a Wix 33166 fuel filter. So, we ordered the > new Westerbeke fuel filter assembly #19509 because the old one was > discounted. It looks like the flow is reversed from the old model so we > hooked it up to match the arrows. > > However....the old banjo nut is longer than the new one and has a smaller > hole in it, whereas the new banjo nut on the top is so short that we can't > get the old banjo fitting around it and have threads to screw into the > filter base. The new one also has a bigger hole in it (which is why, we're > assuming, we were having high rev issues as in our previous post). Does > anyone know what banjo fitting I need for this? > > Or, does anyone know a different fuel filter base we can use that is more > similar to the old (original) one? > > The old fuel filter is type FS with part number 5836B020, whereas the new > one is type FS with part number 5836B710. > > Thanks for the help > > Bix and Krystin > Alaska > > >

We overtightened one of the union nuts and it stripped the threads in the base, which made it start free-spinning. Figured it would be wise to get a new one. But difficult to find! --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Allen Edwards <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote: > > I don't understand what you did to your old filter base but perhaps > repairing it would be easier than dealing with the new one. If it is just a > stripped thread, perhaps a heli-coil would fix it. My engine block has > several and they are stronger than not having them. > > Allen > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:35 PM, reveraterraa <kbablinskas@...> wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > We have a 1979 Cal 34 with Westerbeke 30 engine. We stripped the threads in > > our fuel filter base which took a Wix 33166 fuel filter. So, we ordered the > > new Westerbeke fuel filter assembly #19509 because the old one was > > discounted. It looks like the flow is reversed from the old model so we > > hooked it up to match the arrows. > > > > However....the old banjo nut is longer than the new one and has a smaller > > hole in it, whereas the new banjo nut on the top is so short that we can't > > get the old banjo fitting around it and have threads to screw into the > > filter base. The new one also has a bigger hole in it (which is why, we're > > assuming, we were having high rev issues as in our previous post). Does > > anyone know what banjo fitting I need for this? > > > > Or, does anyone know a different fuel filter base we can use that is more > > similar to the old (original) one? > > > > The old fuel filter is type FS with part number 5836B020, whereas the new > > one is type FS with part number 5836B710. > > > > Thanks for the help > > > > Bix and Krystin > > Alaska > > > > > > >

Well, with the difficulty you are having you might want to look into a heli-coil. I don't know the pitch of your union but if they make one it might be the way to go. It is a little different application that what I had so I don't know if they make the right taps etc. Anyway, just an idea. Allen On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 3:35 PM, reveraterraa <kb… [at] gmail.com> wrote: > ** > > > We overtightened one of the union nuts and it stripped the threads in the > base, which made it start free-spinning. Figured it would be wise to get a > new one. But difficult to find! > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Allen Edwards <allen.p.edwards@...> > wrote: > > > > I don't understand what you did to your old filter base but perhaps > > repairing it would be easier than dealing with the new one. If it is just > a > > stripped thread, perhaps a heli-coil would fix it. My engine block has > > several and they are stronger than not having them. > > > > Allen > > > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:35 PM, reveraterraa <kbablinskas@...> wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > We have a 1979 Cal 34 with Westerbeke 30 engine. We stripped the > threads in > > > our fuel filter base which took a Wix 33166 fuel filter. So, we ordered > the > > > new Westerbeke fuel filter assembly #19509 because the old one was > > > discounted. It looks like the flow is reversed from the old model so we > > > hooked it up to match the arrows. > > > > > > However....the old banjo nut is longer than the new one and has a > smaller > > > hole in it, whereas the new banjo nut on the top is so short that we > can't > > > get the old banjo fitting around it and have threads to screw into the > > > filter base. The new one also has a bigger hole in it (which is why, > we're > > > assuming, we were having high rev issues as in our previous post). Does > > > anyone know what banjo fitting I need for this? > > > > > > Or, does anyone know a different fuel filter base we can use that is > more > > > similar to the old (original) one? > > > > > > The old fuel filter is type FS with part number 5836B020, whereas the > new > > > one is type FS with part number 5836B710. > > > > > > Thanks for the help > > > > > > Bix and Krystin > > > Alaska > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I have a new Westerbeke Part# 19509 same as the one you bought, so, no joy. I have repaired these with a Heli-coil and it is still working and not leaking. A "Full-Torque" brand thread insert would be better than a Heli-Coil since it is a full metal insert, but I am not sure you would have enough metal around the opening. Have you tried Perkins? www.tadinc.com Good people to deal with. Tom --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "reveraterraa" <kbablinskas@...> wrote: > > We have a 1979 Cal 34 with Westerbeke 30 engine. We stripped the threads in our fuel filter base which took a Wix 33166 fuel filter. So, we ordered the new Westerbeke fuel filter assembly #19509 because the old one was discounted. It looks like the flow is reversed from the old model so we hooked it up to match the arrows. > > However....the old banjo nut is longer than the new one and has a smaller hole in it, whereas the new banjo nut on the top is so short that we can't get the old banjo fitting around it and have threads to screw into the filter base. The new one also has a bigger hole in it (which is why, we're assuming, we were having high rev issues as in our previous post). Does anyone know what banjo fitting I need for this? > > Or, does anyone know a different fuel filter base we can use that is more similar to the old (original) one? > > The old fuel filter is type FS with part number 5836B020, whereas the new one is type FS with part number 5836B710. > > Thanks for the help > > Bix and Krystin > Alaska >

Did you hook up all the pipes/hoses in the same order/position as the old filter? The numbers on the filter assembly head are the same but the arrows have changed directions on the new assembly. Not sure if this means to shift everything or not...Thanks --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Old Flathead" <bshmarine@...> wrote: > > > > > I have a new Westerbeke Part# 19509 same as the one you bought, so, no joy. > I have repaired these with a Heli-coil and it is still working and not leaking. A "Full-Torque" brand thread insert would be better than a Heli-Coil since it is a full metal insert, but I am not sure you would have enough metal around the opening. > > Have you tried Perkins? www.tadinc.com Good people to deal with. > > Tom > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "reveraterraa" <kbablinskas@> wrote: > > > > We have a 1979 Cal 34 with Westerbeke 30 engine. We stripped the threads in our fuel filter base which took a Wix 33166 fuel filter. So, we ordered the new Westerbeke fuel filter assembly #19509 because the old one was discounted. It looks like the flow is reversed from the old model so we hooked it up to match the arrows. > > > > However....the old banjo nut is longer than the new one and has a smaller hole in it, whereas the new banjo nut on the top is so short that we can't get the old banjo fitting around it and have threads to screw into the filter base. The new one also has a bigger hole in it (which is why, we're assuming, we were having high rev issues as in our previous post). Does anyone know what banjo fitting I need for this? > > > > Or, does anyone know a different fuel filter base we can use that is more similar to the old (original) one? > > > > The old fuel filter is type FS with part number 5836B020, whereas the new one is type FS with part number 5836B710. > > > > Thanks for the help > > > > Bix and Krystin > > Alaska > > >