12 messages2011-09-29 15:28 UTCthrough 2011-10-15 17:29 UTC
RE: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
Urbanski, Steven J.2011-09-29 15:28 UTC
So after 5 days of rain this is what we get:
FZUS53 KLOT 291507
NSHLOT
NEARSHORE MARINE FORECAST
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
1007 AM CDT THU SEP 29 2011
FOR WATERS WITHIN FIVE NAUTICAL MILES OF SHORE ON LAKE MICHIGAN
LMZ740>742-292145-
WINTHROP HARBOR TO WILMETTE HARBOR-
WILMETTE HARBOR TO NORTHERLY ISLAND-
NORTHERLY ISLAND TO CALUMET HARBOR-
1007 AM CDT THU SEP 29 2011
...GALE WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM CDT THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH
FRIDAY EVENING...
.REST OF TODAY...SOUTHWEST WINDS 15 TO 25 KT BECOMING WEST GALES
TO 40 KT IN THE AFTERNOON. CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND SLIGHT CHANCE OF
THUNDERSTORMS. WAVES 1 TO 3 FT BUILDING TO 3 TO 5 FT IN THE
AFTERNOON.
.TONIGHT...NORTHWEST GALES TO 45 KT WITH A FEW STORM FORCE GUSTS
TO 50 KT POSSIBLE. CHANCE OF SHOWERS. WAVES BUILDING TO 8 TO 12
FT. AN UPGRADE TO STORM WARNING MAY BE NEEDED.
.FRIDAY...NORTHWEST GALES TO 40 KT. CHANCE OF SHOWERS IN THE
MORNING...THEN SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHOWERS IN THE AFTERNOON. WAVES
12 TO 16 FT.
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
Chris Campbell2011-09-29 16:26 UTC
On 9/29/2011 11:28 AM, Urbanski, Steven J. wrote:
>
> So after 5 days of rain this is what we get:
>
>
> ...GALE WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM CDT THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH
>
> FRIDAY EVENING...
>
> .REST OF TODAY...SOUTHWEST WINDS 15 TO 25 KT BECOMING WEST GALES
>
> TO 40 KT IN THE AFTERNOON. CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND SLIGHT CHANCE OF
>
> THUNDERSTORMS. WAVES 1 TO 3 FT BUILDING TO 3 TO 5 FT IN THE
>
> AFTERNOON.
>
This is why I don't feel too bad about hauling out in the fall! It
hurts when you haul and then the weather turns nice, but that hasn't
happened up here. In a month or so, we'll get those Xmas card samples,
the ones that show a pretty sailboat sitting in a calm harbor at dusk,
cabin lights on, snow on deck, wreath decorating the boat. I think,
"wish I could sit on my boat like that." But reality is that it would
be too cold to sail and too dangerous with snow on deck. The oil lamp
would be giving off moisture that would be condensing on the overhead
and dripping down my neck. Or, the wind would be blowing 30 knots and
the boat would be hunting on the mooring and it would be cold and nasty.
I haven't even been able to fold my sails yet--too much rain.
Chris Campbell
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
Tom Vandiver2011-09-30 11:24 UTC
FLORIDA
Tom
From: Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org>
To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
On 9/29/2011 11:28 AM, Urbanski, Steven J. wrote:
>
>So after 5 days of rain this is what we get:
>
>
>...GALE WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM CDT THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH
>FRIDAY EVENING...
>.REST OF TODAY...SOUTHWEST WINDS 15 TO 25 KT BECOMING WEST GALES
>TO 40 KT IN THE AFTERNOON. CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND SLIGHT CHANCE OF
>THUNDERSTORMS. WAVES 1 TO 3 FT BUILDING TO 3 TO 5 FT IN THE
>AFTERNOON.
This is why I don't feel too bad about hauling out in the fall! It
hurts when you haul and then the weather turns nice, but that hasn't
happened up here. In a month or so, we'll get those Xmas card
samples, the ones that show a pretty sailboat sitting in a calm
harbor at dusk, cabin lights on, snow on deck, wreath decorating the
boat. I think, "wish I could sit on my boat like that." But
reality is that it would be too cold to sail and too dangerous with
snow on deck. The oil lamp would be giving off moisture that would
be condensing on the overhead and dripping down my neck. Or, the
wind would be blowing 30 knots and the boat would be hunting on the
mooring and it would be cold and nasty.
I haven't even been able to fold my sails yet--too much rain.
Chris Campbell
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
Chris Campbell2011-09-30 13:28 UTC
On 9/30/2011 7:24 AM, Tom Vandiver wrote:
> FLORIDA
Now why would anybody want to live in a place where you can't go
iceboating or cross-country skiing, and where any real estate you buy
is likely to be inundated as the oceans rise? Or where you deal with
hurricanes every year--either getting ready for them or cleaning up
after them? Or where you don't have the rhythm of seasonal changes?
It's like an all-ice cream diet--fun for the first half hour; pretty
dull after that.
Chris Campbell
Happy in Michigan
> Tom
>
> *From:* Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org>
> *To:* "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:26 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
>
> On 9/29/2011 11:28 AM, Urbanski, Steven J. wrote:
>> So after 5 days of rain this is what we get:
>>
>> ...GALE WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM CDT THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH
>> FRIDAY EVENING...
>> .REST OF TODAY...SOUTHWEST WINDS 15 TO 25 KT BECOMING WEST GALES
>> TO 40 KT IN THE AFTERNOON. CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND SLIGHT CHANCE OF
>> THUNDERSTORMS. WAVES 1 TO 3 FT BUILDING TO 3 TO 5 FT IN THE
>> AFTERNOON.
>
> This is why I don't feel too bad about hauling out in the fall! It
> hurts when you haul and then the weather turns nice, but that hasn't
> happened up here. In a month or so, we'll get those Xmas card
> samples, the ones that show a pretty sailboat sitting in a calm harbor
> at dusk, cabin lights on, snow on deck, wreath decorating the boat. I
> think, "wish I could sit on my boat like that." But reality is that
> it would be too cold to sail and too dangerous with snow on deck. The
> oil lamp would be giving off moisture that would be condensing on the
> overhead and dripping down my neck. Or, the wind would be blowing 30
> knots and the boat would be hunting on the mooring and it would be
> cold and nasty.
>
> I haven't even been able to fold my sails yet--too much rain.
>
> Chris Campbell
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
mike farrell2011-09-30 21:54 UTC
CALIFORNIA!
From: Tom Vandiver <bs… [at] yahoo.com>
To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
FLORIDA
Tom
From: Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org>
To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
On 9/29/2011 11:28 AM, Urbanski, Steven J. wrote:
>So after 5 days of rain this is what we get:
>
>
>...GALE WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM CDT THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH
>FRIDAY EVENING...
>.REST OF TODAY...SOUTHWEST WINDS 15 TO 25 KT BECOMING WEST GALES
>TO 40 KT IN THE AFTERNOON. CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND SLIGHT CHANCE OF
>THUNDERSTORMS. WAVES 1 TO 3 FT BUILDING TO 3 TO 5 FT IN THE
>AFTERNOON.
This is why I don't feel too bad about hauling out in the fall! It hurts when you haul and then the weather turns nice, but that hasn't happened up here. In a month or so, we'll get those Xmas card samples, the ones that show a pretty sailboat sitting in a calm harbor at dusk, cabin lights on, snow on deck, wreath decorating the boat. I think, "wish I could sit on my boat like that." But reality is that it would be too cold to sail and too dangerous with snow on deck. The oil lamp would be giving off moisture that would be condensing on the overhead and dripping down my neck. Or, the wind would be blowing 30 knots and the boat would be hunting on the mooring and it would be cold and nasty.
I haven't even been able to fold my sails yet--too much rain.
Chris Campbell
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
Adam Thorp2011-09-30 21:56 UTC
Here it comes.........!
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:54 PM, mike farrell <ve… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
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> CALIFORNIA!
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> *From:* Tom Vandiver <bs… [at] yahoo.com>
> *To:* "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 30, 2011 4:24 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
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> FLORIDA
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> Tom
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> *From:* Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org>
> *To:* "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:26 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
>
>
> On 9/29/2011 11:28 AM, Urbanski, Steven J. wrote:
>
>
> So after 5 days of rain this is what we get:
>
>
> ...GALE WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM CDT THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH
> FRIDAY EVENING...
> .REST OF TODAY...SOUTHWEST WINDS 15 TO 25 KT BECOMING WEST GALES
> TO 40 KT IN THE AFTERNOON. CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND SLIGHT CHANCE OF
> THUNDERSTORMS. WAVES 1 TO 3 FT BUILDING TO 3 TO 5 FT IN THE
> AFTERNOON.
>
>
> This is why I don't feel too bad about hauling out in the fall! It hurts
> when you haul and then the weather turns nice, but that hasn't happened up
> here. In a month or so, we'll get those Xmas card samples, the ones that
> show a pretty sailboat sitting in a calm harbor at dusk, cabin lights on,
> snow on deck, wreath decorating the boat. I think, "wish I could sit on my
> boat like that." But reality is that it would be too cold to sail and too
> dangerous with snow on deck. The oil lamp would be giving off moisture that
> would be condensing on the overhead and dripping down my neck. Or, the wind
> would be blowing 30 knots and the boat would be hunting on the mooring and
> it would be cold and nasty.
>
> I haven't even been able to fold my sails yet--too much rain.
>
> Chris Campbell
>
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
ti… [at] ch2m.com2011-09-30 22:14 UTC
POCATELLO!
Er... WTF? :|
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mike farrell
CALIFORNIA!
From: Tom Vandiver <bs… [at] yahoo.com>
FLORIDA
From: Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org>
So after 5 days of rain this is what we get:
Chris Campbell
Re: [Cal_Boats] Weather (was Cost per sail)
Kevin O2011-09-30 22:56 UTC
Lake Mead
Las Vegas NV
I was just dragging behind my boat Wednesday
Water 86 degrees
Kevin
Cal-31
"Kona"
From: Adam Thorp <th… [at] gmail.com>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
Here it comes.........!
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:54 PM, mike farrell <ve… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>CALIFORNIA!
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>From: Tom Vandiver <bs… [at] yahoo.com>
>To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 4:24 AM
>
>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
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>FLORIDA
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>Tom
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>From: Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org>
>To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:26 AM
>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
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>On 9/29/2011 11:28 AM, Urbanski, Steven J. wrote:
>
>>So after 5 days of rain this is what we get:
>>
>>
>>...GALE WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM CDT THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH
>>FRIDAY EVENING...
>>.REST OF TODAY...SOUTHWEST WINDS 15 TO 25 KT BECOMING WEST GALES
>>TO 40 KT IN THE AFTERNOON. CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND SLIGHT CHANCE OF
>>THUNDERSTORMS. WAVES 1 TO 3 FT BUILDING TO 3 TO 5 FT IN THE
>>AFTERNOON.
>This is why I don't feel too bad about hauling out in the fall! It hurts when you haul and then the weather turns nice, but that hasn't happened up here. In a month or so, we'll get those Xmas card samples, the ones that show a pretty sailboat sitting in a calm harbor at dusk, cabin lights on, snow on deck, wreath decorating the boat. I think, "wish I could sit on my boat like that." But reality is that it would be too cold to sail and too dangerous with snow on deck. The oil lamp would be giving off moisture that would be condensing on the overhead and dripping down my neck. Or, the wind would be blowing 30 knots and the boat would be hunting on the mooring and it would be cold and nasty.
>
>I haven't even been able to fold my sails yet--too much rain.
>
>Chris Campbell
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Weather (was Cost per sail) [1 Attachment]
Mike McElhaney2011-09-30 23:38 UTC
Kevin, tell the whole story now... outside air temp was probably 105!
(I miss our lake!)
Mike M.
Formerly of Cal-25, Wahini.
From: Kevin O <fi… [at] yahoo.com>
To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Sep 30, 2011 22:56:24 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Weather (was Cost per sail) [1 Attachment]
Lake Mead
Las Vegas NV
I was just dragging behind my boat Wednesday
Water 86 degrees
Kevin
Cal-31
"Kona"
From: Adam Thorp <th… [at] gmail.com>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
Here it comes.........!
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:54 PM, mike farrell <ve… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>CALIFORNIA!
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>From: Tom Vandiver <bs… [at] yahoo.com>
>To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 4:24 AM
>
>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
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>FLORIDA
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>Tom
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>From: Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org>
>To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:26 AM
>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
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>
>On 9/29/2011 11:28 AM, Urbanski, Steven J. wrote:
>
>>So after 5 days of rain this is what we get:
>>
>>
>>...GALE WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM CDT THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH
>>FRIDAY EVENING...
>>.REST OF TODAY...SOUTHWEST WINDS 15 TO 25 KT BECOMING WEST GALES
>>TO 40 KT IN THE AFTERNOON. CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND SLIGHT CHANCE OF
>>THUNDERSTORMS. WAVES 1 TO 3 FT BUILDING TO 3 TO 5 FT IN THE
>>AFTERNOON.
>This is why I don't feel too bad about hauling out in the fall! It hurts when you haul and then the weather turns nice, but that hasn't happ
Re: [Cal_Boats] Weather (was Cost per sail)
Kevin O2011-10-03 19:16 UTC
Mike,
Great to hear from you!
Air temp was actually 98, we have had a cooling trend the last week and they say we have seen the last of triple digits for the year.
Personally I like 100 to 110 on the lake. anything above that is HOT
Kevin
PS "Kona" now has marine AC for the really hot days ;-)
From: Mike McElhaney <mi… [at] wahini.org>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Weather (was Cost per sail)
Kevin, tell the whole story now... outside air temp was probably 105!
(I miss our lake!)
Mike M.
Formerly of Cal-25, Wahini.
From: Kevin O <fi… [at] yahoo.com>
>To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Fri, Sep 30, 2011 22:56:24 GMT+00:00
>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Weather (was Cost per sail) [1 Attachment]
>
>
>Lake Mead
>Las Vegas NV
>I was just dragging behind my boat Wednesday
>Water 86 degrees
>
>Kevin
>Cal-31
>"Kona"
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Adam Thorp <th… [at] gmail.com>
>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 2:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
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>Here it comes.........!
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>On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:54 PM, mike farrell <ve… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>CALIFORNIA!
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>>From: Tom Vandiver <bs… [at] yahoo.com>
>>To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
>>Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 4:24 AM
>>
>>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
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>>FLORIDA
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>>Tom
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>>From: Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org>
>>To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:26 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cost per sail (Chris C)
>>
>>
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>>On 9/29/2011 11:28 AM, Urbanski, Steven J. wrote:
>>
>>>So after 5 days of rain this is what we get:
>>>
>>>
>>>...GALE WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM CDT THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH
>>>FRIDAY EVENING...
>>>.REST OF TODAY...SOUTHWEST WINDS 15 TO 25 KT BECOMING WEST GALES
>>>TO 40 KT IN THE AFTERNOON. CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND SLIGHT CHANCE OF
>>>THUNDERSTORMS. WAVES 1 TO 3 FT BUILDING TO 3 TO 5 FT IN THE
>>>AFTERNOON.
>>This is why I don't feel too bad about hauling out in the fall! It hurts when you haul and then the weather turns nice, but that hasn't happened up here. In a month or so, we'll get those Xmas card samples, the ones that show a pretty sailboat sitting in a calm harbor at dusk, cabin lights on, snow on deck, wreath decorating the boat. I think, "wish I could sit on my boat like that." But reality is that it would be too cold to sail and too dangerous with snow on deck. The oil lamp would be giving off moisture that would be condensing on the overhead and dripping down my neck. Or, the wind would be blowing 30 knots and the boat would be hunting on the mooring and it would be cold and nasty.
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>>I haven't even been able to fold my sails yet--too much rain.
>>
>>Chris Campbell
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Weather (was Cost per sail)
Chris Campbell2011-10-03 20:35 UTC
On 10/3/2011 3:16 PM, Kevin O wrote:
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> PS "Kona" now has marine AC for the really hot days ;-)
One of the delights of living in Michigan is that I have never lived in
a house with air conditioning. I can't quite figure out why their
neighbors have theirs running when the outside air temp is below about
75º F. Just open the windows, for goodness' sake. And the whole idea
of a boat with air conditioning is counterintuitive. I'll confess that
my truck has AC, and on hot summer days when I'm all duded up in lawyer
clothes I'll use it, and also it gets used on highway drives because
it's more efficient than open windows at highway speeds. But I do feel
decadent.
When it's really hot in town, I'll row out to the mooring and jump off
the boat into refreshing Lake Michigan water. The body cools down
pretty quickly.
Life is more interesting when your body has to accommodate exposure to
temps over am annual range just over 100 degrees. Let's hear it for
interesting lives.
Chris Campbell
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Weather (Chris)
Kevin O2011-10-15 17:29 UTC
I too would prefer the right temp but, when cabin temp is 146 (as it was in Aug) and 119 outside, it was GREAT to have the AC
Yep, water was 86 but I can't sail well while dragging through the water
So, now its 92 and water temp is 80 so I'm heading to the lake for some perfect weather, light air sailing!
Kevin
Cal 31
"Kona"
Las Vegas
From: Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org>
To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Weather (was Cost per sail)
On 10/3/2011 3:16 PM, Kevin O wrote:
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>PS "Kona" now has marine AC for the really hot days ;-)
One of the delights of living in Michigan is that I have never lived in a house with air conditioning. I can't quite figure out why their neighbors have theirs running when the outside air temp is below about 75º F. Just open the windows, for goodness' sake. And the whole idea of a boat with air conditioning is counterintuitive. I'll confess that my truck has AC, and on hot summer days when I'm all duded up in lawyer clothes I'll use it, and also it gets used on highway drives because it's more efficient than open windows at highway speeds. But I do feel decadent.
When it's really hot in town, I'll row out to the mooring and jump off the boat into refreshing Lake Michigan water. The body cools down pretty quickly.
Life is more interesting when your body has to accommodate exposure to temps over am annual range just over 100 degrees. Let's hear it for interesting lives.
Chris Campbell
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