East Coast Weather

Well, Folks, here in Annapolis we got no snow - just a lot of rain and wind. However, here is a snippet from my sister in Patterson, NY (about 80 miles north of NYC). "We got at least a foot and a half of snow - no power. branches down everywhere. Crazy." Best of luck to our List members up in the far NE. Take Care Charlie

Charlie, I heard some places got up to two feet of snow, and because the leaves hadn't fallen off yet, it took down lots of tree branches. Three million people without power, more than that caused by the two hurricanes. Yet I talked to a garlic farmer near New Berlin, NY, further north, my first mate's older brother, who saw only one inch of snow, which had all melted by late this morning. Jerry From: "Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)" <hu… [at] bah.com> To: "CAL Yahoo (Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com)" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 1:57 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] East Coast Weather Well, Folks, here in Annapolis we got no snow - just a lot of rain and wind. However, here is a snippet from my sister in Patterson, NY (about 80 miles north of NYC). "We got at least a foot and a half of snow - no power. branches down everywhere. Crazy." Best of luck to our List members up in the far NE. Take Care Charlie

I'm in north/central Jersey and we received about 8" of snow, a lot of the town is without power due to trees taking out power lines and my train line is suspended all day as trees took out the catenary, luckily the coast seems to miss most of it so hopefully Destiny is ok (will be going down later today to check) all in all it was not good here Grae Morrison 1972 Cal-29 #435 'Destiny' On 10/31/2011 03:18 AM, Gerald Sobel wrote: > Charlie, I heard some places got up to two feet of snow, and because > the leaves hadn't fallen off yet, it took down lots of tree branches. > Three million people without power, more than that caused by the two > hurricanes. Yet I talked to a garlic farmer near New Berlin, NY, > further north, my first mate's older brother, who saw only one inch of > snow, which had all melted by late this morning. > Jerry > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* "Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)" <hu… [at] bah.com> > *To:* "CAL Yahoo (Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com)" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, October 30, 2011 1:57 PM > *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] East Coast Weather > > Well, Folks, here in Annapolis we got no snow - just a lot of rain and > wind. However, here is a snippet from my sister in Patterson, NY > (about 80 miles north of NYC). > > "We got at least a foot and a half of snow - no power. branches down > everywhere. Crazy." > > Best of luck to our List members up in the far NE. > > Take Care > Charlie > > > >

My UConn daughter tells me power in still out all in the area, which means my only granddaughter is cold and in the dark...notice I'm keeping my focus on the 'important' aspect.. Beau From: Grae morrison <gr… [at] gtmorrison.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 6:03 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] East Coast Weather I'm in north/central Jersey and we received about 8" of snow, a lot of the town is without power due to trees taking out power lines and my train line is suspended all day as trees took out the catenary, luckily the coast seems to miss most of it so hopefully Destiny is ok (will be going down later today to check) all in all it was not good here Grae Morrison 1972 Cal-29 #435 'Destiny' On 10/31/2011 03:18 AM, Gerald Sobel wrote: >Charlie, I heard some places got up to two feet of snow, and because the leaves hadn't fallen off yet, it took down lots of tree branches. Three million people without power, more than that caused by the two hurricanes. Yet I talked to a garlic farmer near New Berlin, NY, further north, my first mate's older brother, who saw only one inch of snow, which had all melted by late this morning. >Jerry > > > >From: "Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)" <hu… [at] bah.com> >To: "CAL Yahoo (Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com)" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 1:57 PM >Subject: [Cal_Boats] East Coast Weather > > > >Well, Folks, here in Annapolis we got no snow - just a lot of rain and wind. However, here is a snippet from my sister in Patterson, NY (about 80 miles north of NYC). > >"We got at least a foot and a half of snow - no power. branches down everywhere. Crazy." > >Best of luck to our List members up in the far NE. > >Take Care >Charlie > > > >

Only 47 degrees here but it is only 6:25AM. They say it will bet to 70 today. Strange. Happy Halloween everyone. Allen On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com>wrote: > ** > > > Charlie, I heard some places got up to two feet of snow, and because the > leaves hadn't fallen off yet, it took down lots of tree branches. Three > million people without power, more than that caused by the two hurricanes. > Yet I talked to a garlic farmer near New Berlin, NY, further north, my > first mate's older brother, who saw only one inch of snow, which had all > melted by late this morning. > Jerry > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)" <hu… [at] bah.com> > *To:* "CAL Yahoo (Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com)" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, October 30, 2011 1:57 PM > *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] East Coast Weather > > > Well, Folks, here in Annapolis we got no snow - just a lot of rain and > wind. However, here is a snippet from my sister in Patterson, NY (about 80 > miles north of NYC). > > "We got at least a foot and a half of snow - no power. branches down > everywhere. Crazy." > > Best of luck to our List members up in the far NE. > > Take Care > Charlie > > > > >

On 10/30/2011 4:57 PM, Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) wrote: > > Well, Folks, here in Annapolis we got no snow - just a lot of rain and > wind. However, here is a snippet from my sister in Patterson, NY > (about 80 miles north of NYC). > > "We got at least a foot and a half of snow - no power. branches down > everywhere. Crazy." > Seems to me we've had an increase in extreme weather events, which is one of the predicted consequences of global warming. Here in Michigan, it seems to have taken the form of high winds in spring and fall storms. Today's news reported that the Koch brothers had funded a scientist to disprove the scientific consensus that global warming is happening. The news today is that he has just confirmed the data of the global warming conclusion. He went where the data led him, not where the money wanted him to go. That's what science is supposed to be about. My Cal 20's cover survived our biggest fall storm so far, and Saturday I went out and added the last part of the cover. The standard silver tarps lack about 4 feet for a Cal 20. I buy one that's almost the right length, and the standard size makes it way too wide, so I fold it in half and have two sides to use. But it's a bit short so I use small blue tarps for the last couple feet of the bow. I try to imagine what the wind will do and to secure it to avoid disaster. Then there's the snow load. Last year I raised my mast supports to make a higher ridge and steeper pitch for the tarp. Then we had the biggest wind storm in ages here and the boat almost blew over until I cut the tarp off. We'll see how it works this year. Chris Campbell

On Sunday I went out for a beautiful 5 hour sail on Lake Erie. One other sailor came out as I was going in. Said he saw me and couldn't resist. While I was out there I was listening to the weather you are all talking about. I thought how jealous would they be if they knew what I was doing at the same time that there were blizzards elseware. It was about 10 degrees Celsius, sunny with about 10kts. from the SW. I have asked to be the last one out so I can be the first one in next spring. I'll let you know how far I get. Hoping for a long Indian Summer! Best to all, Mark Cosens s/v Sue II, Port Stanley, Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) To: CAL Yahoo (Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com) Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:57 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] East Coast Weather Well, Folks, here in Annapolis we got no snow - just a lot of rain and wind. However, here is a snippet from my sister in Patterson, NY (about 80 miles north of NYC). "We got at least a foot and a half of snow - no power. branches down everywhere. Crazy." Best of luck to our List members up in the far NE. Take Care Charlie

Chris -- I have been modifying plastic tarps for years to fit my needs. I buy a brass grommet kit that is available at West Marine or Ace Hardware. Buy a larger tarp than you need, fold the tarp to the right dimensions and drive holes in both layers of the tarp and install one of the grommets through the doubled material. I then use duct tape to keep the two pieces of material together so they don't billow and tie off the tarp. To help keep the boat steady, try hanging gallon jugs of potable antifreeze from the grommets and let them hang almost to the ground. These will keep tension on the tarp and keep the forces low to the ground aiding stability. I also tie the tarp under the boat from side to side to keep the tarp close to the hull making sure not to go through jack stands or parts of the trailer so they don't pull on the stands. Right now I am covering the deck of my rent home in Portland with a tarp that I modified just like this and it is working wonders giving me the use of the deck throughout the rainy season. Hope this idea helps you! Don Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" From: "Chris Campbell" <cc… [at] lsnm.org> To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 6:34:23 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] East Coast Weather On 10/30/2011 4:57 PM, Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) wrote: Well, Folks, here in Annapolis we got no snow - just a lot of rain and wind. However, here is a snippet from my sister in Patterson, NY (about 80 miles north of NYC). "We got at least a foot and a half of snow - no power. branches down everywhere. Crazy." Seems to me we've had an increase in extreme weather events, which is one of the predicted consequences of global warming. Here in Michigan, it seems to have taken the form of high winds in spring and fall storms. Today's news reported that the Koch brothers had funded a scientist to disprove the scientific consensus that global warming is happening. The news today is that he has just confirmed the data of the global warming conclusion. He went where the data led him, not where the money wanted him to go. That's what science is supposed to be about. My Cal 20's cover survived our biggest fall storm so far, and Saturday I went out and added the last part of the cover. The standard silver tarps lack about 4 feet for a Cal 20. I buy one that's almost the right length, and the standard size makes it way too wide, so I fold it in half and have two sides to use. But it's a bit short so I use small blue tarps for the last couple feet of the bow. I try to imagine what the wind will do and to secure it to avoid disaster. Then there's the snow load. Last year I raised my mast supports to make a higher ridge and steeper pitch for the tarp. Then we had the biggest wind storm in ages here and the boat almost blew over until I cut the tarp off. We'll see how it works this year. Chris Campbell

On 11/1/2011 11:01 AM, Mark Cosens wrote: > > On Sunday I went out for a beautiful 5 hour sail on Lake Erie. One > other sailor came out as I was going in. Said he saw me and couldn't > resist. While I was out there I was listening to the weather you are > all talking about. I thought how jealous would they be if they knew > what I was doing at the same time that there were blizzards elseware. > It was about 10 degrees Celsius, sunny with about 10kts. from the SW. > I have asked to be the last one out so I can be the first one in next > spring. > I'll let you know how far I get. Hoping for a long Indian Summer! You're one of those guys that the rest of us are jealous of. I can look out our secretary's window and see Lake Michigan (Grand Traverse Bay) and sometimes there will be some lucky sailor out there still. By the way, for those of us south of your border, 10º C is 50º F, not a bad temp if you're well dressed and wearing your PFD and maybe a harness. Chris Campbell

On 11/1/2011 2:05 PM, dn… [at] comcast.net wrote: > Chris -- I have been modifying plastic tarps for years to fit my > needs. I buy a brass grommet kit that is available at West Marine or > Ace Hardware. Buy a larger tarp than you need, fold the tarp to the > right dimensions and drive holes in both layers of the tarp and > install one of the grommets through the doubled material. I've got a grommet kit too, and that's what I've used on my doubled tarp. But under really high loads, the grommet can migrate some, so next time I replace the tarp, I'll probably run some 1/2" or so PVC water pipe inside the fold, cut small holes above the pipe, and then tie off my lines around the pipe. The pipe will distribute the loads along the fold better than my grommets have done. > I then use duct tape to keep the two pieces of material together so > they don't billow and tie off the tarp. Somebody told me that the home improvement stores have "tarp tape" in colors that match the various tarps--blue, brown, green, silver. I wonder if that would be longer-lived than duct tape? > To help keep the boat steady, try hanging gallon jugs of potable > antifreeze from the grommets and let them hang almost to the ground. > These will keep tension on the tarp and keep the forces low to the > ground aiding stability. I also tie the tarp under the boat from side > to side to keep the tarp close to the hull making sure not to go > through jack stands or parts of the trailer so they don't pull on the > stands. Last year in the fall we had a violent wind storm with winds over 60 mph. My boat is in an exposed location, and I had just raised my "ridge pole" (the mast) to give a steeper pitch to the tarp, so it would shed snow better. I stopped to check on the boat at the height of the storm. The tongue jack had blown off its block. The mast had slid to leeward off its supports and the tarp's lines had broken or chafed through, in part, making it more of a kite than a cover. I climbed up onto the boat from my truck in coat & tie and started slashing lines with a pocket knife to release the tarp before something really awful happened. (Mast fall off? trailer tip over?). I have tried to prevent that by tying the mast down before covering it, not relying on the cover to hold it in place, and also by adding more lines. Some \go under the boat, side to side, and most go to the trailer. We had a petty bad wind storm this fall but it was worst down where my other boat lives (secure in the boat barn by then) and it did not disturb the cover here. I did tighten the lines a bit afterward. > Right now I am covering the deck of my rent home in Portland with a > tarp that I modified just like this and it is working wonders giving > me the use of the deck throughout the rainy season. Our problem is mostly snow. It doesn't really hurt too much if the tarp sags down to deck level under a snow load, except that it makes it harder to remove and makes for more weight on the boat. I prefer to keep snow off just on general principles so I visit the boat after heavy snows and drag the snow off, if necessary. At least it looks like somebody cares. It also gives me a chance to visit the boat. Chris Campbell