Fw: You are stealing my slip G2418!!! Please relocate meeting to MdR!

This is how the "new" California Coastal Commission, created by Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown when he was governor the first time around, and an honest well meaning guy then, is protecting the Public's access to aquatic recreation now?...NOT!! I had thought the County proposal so greedy and insane that it had no chance to pass. How wrong can we be? And...to hold the meeting so virtually no one could easily attend to protest this cruelty? Jerry ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] msn.com> To: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com>; jn… [at] gmail.com; John Davis <j… [at] johnanthonydavis.com>; Lee Rhodes <le… [at] permacity.com>; Lloyd E Roberts <ll… [at] sbcglobal.net>; Odin Braathen <od… [at] msn.com>; prnbink <pr… [at] pacbell.net>; Samuel Cowan <sj… [at] roadrunner.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 9:37 AM Subject: FW: You are stealing my slip G2418!!! Please relocate meeting to MdR! From: so… [at] msn.com To: na… [at] wearemdr.com Subject: RE: You are stealing my slip G2418!!! Please relocate meeting to MdR! Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 09:32:07 -0800 Nancy, can this be appealed on the grounds that the meeting was nearly inaccessible to the people who would be affected by the decision? WTF would you hold a meeting 100 miles away during work hours for the people affected?..unless your intent was to screw them? Jerry? Subject: Re: You are stealing my slip G2418!!! Please relocate meeting to MdR! From: na… [at] wearemdr.com Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:37:11 -0800 To: so… [at] msn.com 11-1 in favor of the LCP Amendment 11-1 in favor of the Master CDP covering 12 anchorage redevelopment projects (~6 private marinas & all county public docks, both existing and to be taken over, I think) Only 3 Commissioners even made a peep to try and preserve SOMETHING for the little guy. Only Commissioner Esther Sanchez had the grace to cast her vote for her principles (she is the "1" in both votes above). Coastal staff offered a tiny figleaf of modifications to the LCP Amendment and Master CDP. The upshot is * there is no longer any floor under the minimum number of slips in the harbor, so the overall number can continue to shrink as long as 59% of the remaining number are 38' or less. * End ties and side ties do not count in calculating this %.--in fact, end ties and side ties are no longer recognized as existing in MdR at all! * Existing small slip tenants will be "protected" during dock redevelopment, and moved into larger slips at the smaller slip rent during construction, but once the new marina is completed, there are no protections whatsoever. Yes, I am a member of WSA. I will be at the meeting tonite. Together, Nancy On Nov 7, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Gerald Sobel wrote: Nancy, Thursday? I thought the meeting was Tuesday. Anyway, what was the outcome. Chances are I'll still have a slip, but I may have to get a partner to share cost of it. But if that deal went thru, where the ^%$# are all the boats going to go that will be without slips now? >Are you a member of WSA? Who paid for the full page ad in Argonaut boasting of MdR improvements=ripping off the public? >As said before, media exposure is essential, and we need to get Occupy Wallstreet and Occupy LA over to MdR. How about entering a float in the parade where we hang the supervisors as Xmas Sock Cheer? I just thought of that. Ha ha ha. >Jerry > > > >________________________________ >Subject: Re: You are stealing my slip G2418!!! Please relocate meeting to MdR! >From: na… [at] wearemdr.com >Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 08:21:22 -0800 >To: so… [at] msn.com > >Hi, Jerry, > > >Of course we'll stay in touch. The only good thing about this whole ordeal is the new friends I've met. (We didn't get much notice. Jon did better than we did--at least he got the word to you). There are many smaller skirmishes yet to come, I daresay. Peter Douglas said "The Coast is never saved; it is always being saved." Greedy bastards are never satisfied. > > >David and I are going to rest a bit before deciding what We ARE MdR will do going forward. Neither of us is in a frame of mind to make a decision right now. We still have a lot of bills to pay from this, and no one likes to give money to a cause that has already been lost. > > >How about you? Have you decided what to do about your boat yet, or are you still in shock at the blatant corruption of last Thursday, too? > > > > >Together, >Nancy > > > > > > >On Nov 6, 2011, at 9:50 PM, Gerald Sobel wrote: > >Nancy, >>Thanks, but no need to thank me. It's my slip that is going to be demolished next. I just saw on TV tonite about a big protest in West Hollywood about a public park that is being closed in redeveloped, wrecking WPA classic buildings, 120 year old historic trees, for what reason? So Developers can make easy money when really so much important work needs to be done rehabilitating our infrastructure, or restoring the L.A. river, or god forbid, BUILDING NEW PARKS SINCE WHERE THIS PARK IS BEING 'TEMPORARILY CLOSED' THERE ARE VERY FEW PARKS. The news reporters showed and organized march, but said 'It was a done deal". So much for our phony democracy. >>No wonder other countries want no part of it. >> >>Stay in touch and tell Jon to give me a heads up further in advance, I lose track of what is going on so easily. >>Jerry >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>Subject: Re: You are stealing my slip G2418!!! Please relocate meeting to MdR! >>From: na… [at] wearemdr.com >>Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 10:25:31 -0800 >>To: so… [at] msn.com >> >>Great work, Jerry, >> >> >>Thank you so much for your efforts to get boaters energized. >> >> >>We'll be taking a short rest to recuperate before David and I contemplate how We ARE MdR will move forward. >> >> >> >> >>Together, >>Nancy >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On Nov 2, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Gerald Sobel wrote: >> >> >>> Chris, >>>It would be better to post this to the membership, a lengthY face book post??, well, I'm not sure how to go about it. >>> >>>I didn't get a heads up on this critically important meeting until Monday night, the Arrogant doesn't feel ripping off of Marina del Rey is important, but a bunch of blah blah is. The Arrogant's take on the County Meeting was just what the County told them to write, absolutely uncritical of the total sham that is was...just like a Commie or Nazi show trial. The full page as is another pathetic sham, what the County is going to do to benefit the Public, besides getting rid of affordable boat slips, that is beneficial to public use of OUR Marina, might as well be to give us a dose of Malaria, AIDS, and Leprosy. >>> >>>The County thugs ripped off the Sea Scouts Building after tricking them into doing $85,000 of improvements; they claim that the SMWYC docks, which are concrete, are inadequate and dangerous (That's what the write up in The Arrogant said!!), but say nothing about the docks at Pier 44 that until the last year, were so neglected, that kept developing rotting 'sink holes' and they collapsed under Eric Kupris, permanently injuring his spine and sciatic nerve, and roter cuff, evem after I begged them to fix my finger every month, for 9 months straight. >>> >>>This is an emergency, please help me/us out. >>>THE COASTAL COMMISSION IS THE LAST FLOOD DYKE LEFT BEFORE BASIN G AND H ARE LOST FOR GOOD. >>>HELP!!It's to late to tell me what I could have done going forward. Ask the membership to deluge the Coastal Commision with emails. Tell them to tell all their friends to do the same! >>>Jerry >>> >>> >>>________________________________ >>>From: ch… [at] hotmail.com >>>To: ss… [at] mednet.ucla.edu; so… [at] msn.com >>>Subject: RE: You are stealing my slip G2418!!! Please relocate meeting to MdR! >>>Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:14:43 +0000 >>> >>> >>>Hi Jerry, >>> >>>I know this is an issue that affects us all. >>> >>>The best way to get the word out is to post this on our WSA facebook page. >>> >>>Going forward, you may also want to submit articles for our newsletter. The deadline is generally the last Friday of the month for the next month's edition. >>> >>> >>> >>>Thanks, chris. >>> >>>Christina Tarantola >>>Commodore, 2011, WSA of SMB >>>CHARLOTTE TARANTOLA >>>Phone: 310-839-0400x208 >>>Fax: 310-839-0401 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>________________________________ >>>From: SS… [at] mednet.ucla.edu >>>To: so… [at] msn.com >>>CC: ch… [at] hotmail.com >>>Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:03:58 -0700 >>>Subject: RE: You are stealing my slip G2418!!! Please relocate meeting to MdR! >>> >>> >>>Hi Jerry, I am sending this on to Christina Tarantola, who can pass it on to the Communications Director. >>> >>>Best, >>>Sue >>> >>> >>> >>>________________________________ >>> >>>From: Gerald Sobel [mailto:so… [at] msn.com] >>>Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 2:00 PM >>>To: Service, Susan >>>Subject: FW: You are stealing my slip G2418!!! Please relocate meeting to MdR! >>> >>>Susan, >>>Can you notify the WSA membership to email the members of the Coastal Commission and let them know we want the meeting on the future of Marina del Rey to be held here in Marina del Rey and not in Oceanside where very few of the public can attend? >>>PLEASE GET IN TOUCH WITH NANCY MARINO AND OTHERS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THE DEVELOPERS AND THEIR COUNTY PUPPETS ARE GOBBLING UP THE MARINA CHUNK BY CHUNK. THEY WANT TO TAKE SMWYC PROPERTY NEXT, JUST AS THEY SWIPED THE SEA SCOUTS FACILITY. >>> >>>BTW, THEY ARE STEALING MY SLIP AND I'LL BE AND OTHER MEMBERS OF WSA WILL BE BOATLESS IF WE DON'T MOBILIZE NOW. >>> >>>Best regards, >>>Jerry Sobel >>> >>>________________________________ >>> >>>From: so… [at] msn.com >>>To: ri… [at] bloomlaw.net >>>Subject: You are stealing my slip G2418!!! Please relocate meeting to MdR! >>>Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:43:58 -0700 >>>ri… [at] bloomlaw.net >>>es… [at] aol.com >>>ma… [at] co.santa-cruz.ca.us >>>mm… [at] co.del-norte.ca.us >>>zi… [at] gmail.com >>>sb… [at] KandSranch.com >>>Br… [at] ventura.org >>>sk… [at] co.marin.ca.us >>> >>>DEAR RICHARD, >>>MY SLIP IS GOING TO BE ELIMINATED BY YOUR SHORT SIGHTEDNESS! >>> >>>I AM AN ACTIVE RACER PARTICIPATING ON A SHOE STRING BUDGET WITH FRIENDS AND ASSOCIATES. >>>WHY ARE YOU VOTING ON AN ISSUE WITH NO INPUT FROM INTERESTED PARTIES? >>> >>>I am unable to attend the Commission hearing for Items Th11a, Th11b, Th12a >>>this Thursday in Oceanside. It is too far away to be able to take off a >>>whole day or more from work. Since 3 major items are on the agenda for the >>>Marina, this meeting should have been scheduled in Los Angeles County. >>> >>>The Commission will be returning to LA County at its January, 2012 meeting. >>>Therefore, I urge you to make a motion at the beginning of the hearing to >>>continue all 3 items to January 2012 so that I may attend in Los Angeles >>>and exercise my right to maximum public participation. >>> >>>Thank you. >>>Gerald Sobel >>>310-399-0844 >>>>>>________________________________ >>>IMPORTANT WARNING: This email (and any attachments) is only intended for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. You, the recipient, are obligated to maintain it in a safe, secure and confidential manner. Unauthorized redisclosure or failure to maintain confidentiality may subject you to federal and state penalties. 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