For the Great Lakes sailors on the list

This is not exactly sailing content, but it is nautical! My father worked as a sailor aboard the Henry G. Dalton, a classic Laker bulk freighter operated by Interlake Steamship Co. For his upcoming 84th birthday I would love to find a model or line drawing of this ship or similar ones of the era. Any of you Great Lakes sailors know of a nautical museum or other source where I might find something like this? Many thanks, Ken Akers 73 Cal 29 Mana

I would try the local city building historical archives. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Akers To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 3:09 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] For the Great Lakes sailors on the list [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Ken Akers included below] This is not exactly sailing content, but it is nautical! My father worked as a sailor aboard the Henry G. Dalton, a classic Laker bulk freighter operated by Interlake Steamship Co. For his upcoming 84th birthday I would love to find a model or line drawing of this ship or similar ones of the era. Any of you Great Lakes sailors know of a nautical museum or other source where I might find something like this? Many thanks, Ken Akers 73 Cal 29 Mana __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6718 (20111216) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6718 (20111216) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

http://www.bearcomarine.com/ Not enough time, I suspect unless they have one made. It might be worth while to inquire. Mike Kennedy On Dec 16, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Ken Akers wrote: > > [Attachment(s) from Ken Akers included below] > > This is not exactly sailing content, but it is nautical! My father > worked as a sailor aboard the Henry G. Dalton, a classic Laker bulk > freighter operated by Interlake Steamship Co. For his upcoming > 84th birthday I would love to find a model or line drawing of this > ship or similar ones of the era. Any of you Great Lakes sailors > know of a nautical museum or other source where I might find > something like this? > > Many thanks, > Ken Akers > 73 Cal 29 Mana > > > > > > > > > > <!-- { > } hr { border: 1px solid > #d8d8d8; } #hd { color: #628c2a; font- > weight: 700; } #ads > { margin-bottom: 10px; } .ad { } #ygrp- > mkp .ad p { } .ad a { color: #0000ff; text- > decoration: none; } { } > #hd { font-weight: 700; > } .ad > { margin-bottom: 10px; } a { color: #1e66ae; } > #actions { } > #activity { background-color: #e0ecee; float: left; font-family: > Verdana; } #activity span { font- > weight: 700; } #activity span:first-child { text-transform: > uppercase; } #activity span a { color: #5085b6; text-decoration: > none; } #activity span span { color: #ff7900; } #activity > span .underline { text-decoration: underline; } .attach { clear: > both; display: table; padding: > 10px 0; } .attach div a { text-decoration: > none; } .attach img { padding-right: 5px; } .attach > label { display: block; margin-bottom: 5px; } .attach label a { text- > decoration: none; } blockquote { } .bold { font- > family: Arial; font-weight: 700; } .bold a { text- > decoration: none; } dd.last p a { font-weight: > 700; } dd.last p span { margin-right: 10px; > font-weight: 700; } dd.last p span.yshortcuts { margin-right: 0; } > div.attach-table div div a { text-decoration: none; } div.attach- > table { } div.file-title a, div.file-title a:active, > div.file-title a:hover, div.file-title a:visited { text-decoration: > none; } div.photo-title a, div.photo-title a:active, div.photo-title > a:hover, div.photo-title a:visited { text-decoration: none; } > div p a span.yshortcuts { > font-weight: normal; } .green { color: > #628c2a; } .MsoNormal { } o { } > #photos div { float: left; } #photos div div { border: > 1px solid #666666; height: 62px; } > #photos div label { color: #666666; overflow: > hidden; } > #reco-category { } #reco-desc { font-size: > 77%; } .replbq { } div a:first-child { /* > border-right: 0px solid #000;*/ margin-right: 2px; padding-right: > 5px; } { font-family: Arial, > helvetica,clean, sans-serif; *font-size: small; *font: x-small; } > table { font: 100%; } > select, input, textarea { font: 99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans- > serif; } pre, code { font:115% monospace; *font-size: > 100%; } * { } #logo > { padding-bottom: 10px; } a { color: #1E66AE; } #ygrp- > msg p a { } p#attach-count span > { color: #1E66AE; font-weight: 700; } #reco-head { color: > #ff7900; font-weight: 700; } { margin-bottom: 20px; > } #ov li a { text- > decoration: none; } #ov li { list- > style-type: square; } #ov ul { margin: > 0; } { } #ygrp- > text p { } tt { } > ul li:last-child { border-right: none !important; } -->

I'm up in the SF Bay Area near Palo Alto, for me mother's 97th birthday, till Monday. I don't know if I'm going to have time to go sailing but if anyone up here wants to give me a shout out regarding their sailing plans or crew position availability, feel free to do so. The number is 650-493-4971 Best Regards, Jerry From: Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) <ma… [at] cox.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] For the Great Lakes sailors on the list I would try the local city building historical archives. Mark >From: Ken Akers >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 3:09 PM >Subject: [Cal_Boats] For the Great Lakes sailors on the list [1 Attachment] > > >This is not exactly sailing content, but it is nautical! My father worked as a sailor aboard the Henry G. Dalton, a classic Laker bulk freighter operated by Interlake Steamship Co. For his upcoming 84th birthday I would love to find a model or line drawing of this ship or similar ones of the era. Any of you Great Lakes sailors know of a nautical museum or other source where I might find something like this? > >Many thanks, >Ken Akers >73 Cal 29 Mana > > > > > > > > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6718 (20111216) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6718 (20111216) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

I assume you know about this link http://research.udmercy.edu/find/special_collections/digital/gls/item.php?re cord_id=513&collectionCode=gls John B Cal 227 UofD alumnus _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Akers Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 6:09 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] For the Great Lakes sailors on the list [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Ken Akers included below] This is not exactly sailing content, but it is nautical! My father worked as a sailor aboard the Henry G. Dalton, a classic Laker bulk freighter operated by Interlake Steamship Co. For his upcoming 84th birthday I would love to find a model or line drawing of this ship or similar ones of the era. Any of you Great Lakes sailors know of a nautical museum or other source where I might find something like this? Many thanks, Ken Akers 73 Cal 29 Mana

Try the marine museum i Lorain Ohio they have an extensive collection also try the Detroit museum on Bell Isle. I was on the Joe S. Morrow in 1953 and was able to trace her history and she was built in the 1890s. also BGSU in BG Ohio has info. From: John Boyce <je… [at] gmail.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Dec 16, 2011 7:47 pm Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] For the Great Lakes sailors on the list I assume you know about this link http://research.udmercy.edu/find/special_collections/digital/gls/item.php?record_id=513&collectionCode=gls John B Cal 227 UofD alumnus From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Akers Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 6:09 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] For the Great Lakes sailors on the list [1 Attachment] This is not exactly sailing content, but it is nautical! My father worked as a sailor aboard the Henry G. Dalton, a classic Laker bulk freighter operated by Interlake Steamship Co. For his upcoming 84th birthday I would love to find a model or line drawing of this ship or similar ones of the era. Any of you Great Lakes sailors know of a nautical museum or other source where I might find something like this? Many thanks, Ken Akers 73 Cal 29 Mana

Perhaps this will help - google Dossin Maritime Museum - - or go to www.detroithistorical.org/main/dossin They may have archived prints you can get a hold of. Nick Geisz - Lake St Clair From: "Ken Akers" <ke… [at] sbcglobal.net> To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 6:09:15 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] For the Great Lakes sailors on the list [1 Attachment] [ Attachment(s) from Ken Akers included below] This is not exactly sailing content, but it is nautical! My father worked as a sailor aboard the Henry G. Dalton, a classic Laker bulk freighter operated by Interlake Steamship Co. For his upcoming 84th birthday I would love to find a model or line drawing of this ship or similar ones of the era . Any of you Great Lakes sailors know of a nautical museum or other source where I might find something like this? Many thanks, Ken Akers 73 Cal 29 Mana

There seems to be a lot of information on Google. http://drc.library.bgsu.edu/handle/2374.BGSU/1655 I would search there first for a maritime museum or other. /ch On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Ken Akers <ke… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: > [Attachment(s) <#13449230c1eb33cb_TopText> from Ken Akers included below] > > This is not exactly sailing content, but it is nautical! My father worked > as a sailor aboard the Henry G. Dalton, a classic Laker bulk freighter > operated by Interlake Steamship Co. For his upcoming 84th birthday I > would love to find a model or line drawing of this ship or similar ones of > the era. Any of you Great Lakes sailors know of a nautical museum or > other source where I might find something like this? > > Many thanks, > Ken Akers > 73 Cal 29 Mana > > > > > > > > > Attachment(s) from Ken Akers > > 1 of 1 Photo(s) > [image: Henry G Dalton.jpg]<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/1719736252/item/1795328126/view> > Henry G Dalton.jpg<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/1719736252/item/1795328126/view> > > > -- /ch

Ken, Also try the Chicago Maritime Museum. Dave D. CAL29 411 From: Ken Akers <ke… [at] sbcglobal.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 5:09 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] For the Great Lakes sailors on the list [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Ken Akers included below] This is not exactly sailing content, but it is nautical! My father worked as a sailor aboard the Henry G. Dalton, a classic Laker bulk freighter operated by Interlake Steamship Co. For his upcoming 84th birthday I would love to find a model or line drawing of this ship or similar ones of the era. Any of you Great Lakes sailors know of a nautical museum or other source where I might find something like this? Many thanks, Ken Akers 73 Cal 29 Mana

On 12/16/2011 6:09 PM, Ken Akers wrote: > [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from Ken Akers included below] > This is not exactly sailing content, but it is nautical! My father > worked as a sailor aboard the Henry G. Dalton, a classic Laker bulk > freighter operated by Interlake Steamship Co. For his upcoming 84th > birthday I would love to find a model or line drawing of this ship or > similar ones of the era. Any of you Great Lakes sailors know of a > nautical museum or other source where I might find something like this? Here's a reply with sailing content. A captain/first mate on the schooner /Inland Seas /is a gifted artist who does "renderings" (his term) of various vessels. His Great Lakes commercial vessels are here: > http://www.boatprint.com/pages/lakers.html I've got his version of the John J. McWilliams, a boat built in Bay City, where I grew up. Scroll to the very bottom and check out the Henry Steinbrenner, which may be similar to your dad's Dalton (I don't know that boat). Bowling Green State U. has a Great Lakes archive with records of vessels built by American Shipbuilding, Great Lakes Engineering, and Defoe Shipbuilding. I've donated blueprints from the Davidson yard to them. Check here: > http://www.bgsu.edu/colleges/library/cac/page39533.html BGSU has a nice photo of the Dalton here: > http://drc.library.bgsu.edu/handle/2374.BGSU/1655?show=full There's the Dossin Great Lakes Museum on Belle Isle in Detroit with another wealth of collections: > http://www.detroithistorical.org/main/collections/index.aspx Here's a page with multiple photos of the Dalton from the Father Dowling collection. He was a Detroit-area priest with a huge collection of documents on Lakes freighters. > http://research.udmercy.edu/find/special_collections/digital/gls/item.php?record_id=513&collectionCode=gls And also see more photos from this collection here: > http://www.dalnet.lib.mi.us/gsdl/cgi-bin/library?e=d-000-00---0shipping--00-0-0-0prompt-10---4---Document---0-1l--1-en-50---20-about---001-011-1-0utfZz-8-0&a=d&cl=CL5.41&d=HASHa67958e4eeb8efb8d76b34 There's another photo here, this one in color, about 1/3 down the page: > http://www.boatnerd.com/news/newsthumbs/newsthumbs_397.htm My guess is that you're not going to get a model on short notice but you may be able to purchase a photo from one of these sources or maybe even find drawings that they could reproduce. Chris Campbell

Thanks Mike, this Bearco Marine site has great models, and I'll probably go with one of the smaller ones (don't know where he'd keep the 6' long version!). And to everyone else who replied with links to historical societies, museums, etc., thank you very much - amazing history there. Merry Christmas to all. Ken Akers 73 Cal 29 Mana --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Michael Kennedy <michaeltkennedy@...> wrote: > > > > http://www.bearcomarine.com/ > > Not enough time, I suspect unless they have one made. It might be > worth while to inquire. > > Mike Kennedy > > > On Dec 16, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Ken Akers wrote: > > > > > [Attachment(s) from Ken Akers included below] > > > > This is not exactly sailing content, but it is nautical! My father > > worked as a sailor aboard the Henry G. Dalton, a classic Laker bulk > > freighter operated by Interlake Steamship Co. For his upcoming > > 84th birthday I would love to find a model or line drawing of this > > ship or similar ones of the era. Any of you Great Lakes sailors > > know of a nautical museum or other source where I might find > > something like this? > > > > Many thanks, > > Ken Akers > > 73 Cal 29 Mana > >>

Great stuff, thanks. The color picture from the 50's is especially nice. Sailor humor - His story of his first day aboard. I'm sure he was a just a junior deckhand, lowest guy on the ladder. At the first meal he politely asked, just as his mother had told him, something like "Please pass the potatoes." To which came the gruff reply "Shut up kid and eat what's near ya!" :) --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Chris Campbell <ccampbell@...> wrote: > > On 12/16/2011 6:09 PM, Ken Akers wrote: > > [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from Ken Akers included below] > > This is not exactly sailing content, but it is nautical! My father > > worked as a sailor aboard the Henry G. Dalton, a classic Laker bulk > > freighter operated by Interlake Steamship Co. For his upcoming 84th > > birthday I would love to find a model or line drawing of this ship or > > similar ones of the era. Any of you Great Lakes sailors know of a > > nautical museum or other source where I might find something like this? > > Here's a reply with sailing content. A captain/first mate on the > schooner /Inland Seas /is a gifted artist who does "renderings" (his > term) of various vessels. His Great Lakes commercial vessels are here: > > http://www.boatprint.com/pages/lakers.html > I've got his version of the John J. McWilliams, a boat built in Bay > City, where I grew up. Scroll to the very bottom and check out the > Henry Steinbrenner, which may be similar to your dad's Dalton (I don't > know that boat). > > Bowling Green State U. has a Great Lakes archive with records of vessels > built by American Shipbuilding, Great Lakes Engineering, and Defoe > Shipbuilding. I've donated blueprints from the Davidson yard to them. > Check here: > > http://www.bgsu.edu/colleges/library/cac/page39533.html > > BGSU has a nice photo of the Dalton here: > > http://drc.library.bgsu.edu/handle/2374.BGSU/1655?show=full > > > There's the Dossin Great Lakes Museum on Belle Isle in Detroit with > another wealth of collections: > > http://www.detroithistorical.org/main/collections/index.aspx > > Here's a page with multiple photos of the Dalton from the Father Dowling > collection. He was a Detroit-area priest with a huge collection of > documents on Lakes freighters. > > http://research.udmercy.edu/find/special_collections/digital/gls/item.php?record_id=513&collectionCode=gls > And also see more photos from this collection here: > > http://www.dalnet.lib.mi.us/gsdl/cgi-bin/library?e=d-000-00---0shipping--00-0-0-0prompt-10---4---Document---0-1l--1-en-50---20-about---001-011-1-0utfZz-8-0&a=d&cl=CL5.41&d=HASHa67958e4eeb8efb8d76b34 > > > There's another photo here, this one in color, about 1/3 down the page: > > http://www.boatnerd.com/news/newsthumbs/newsthumbs_397.htm > > My guess is that you're not going to get a model on short notice but you > may be able to purchase a photo from one of these sources or maybe even > find drawings that they could reproduce. > > Chris Campbell >