Boom Vang

Boom Vang

12 messages2012-02-25 17:08 UTCthrough 2012-02-26 02:59 UTC

Boom Vang

Jim Ives2012-02-25 17:08 UTC
Greetings,, I am looking to add a boom vang to Kool Beans and wondering if anyone has one for sale (reasonable!). It dosen't have to be fancy, just need to get the job done. Thank you all in advance! Jim Ives - Kool BeansRochester, NY

Re: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang

Allen Edwards2012-02-25 18:22 UTC
Three single blocks and a cam cleat back at the cockpit. 4:1. If you want more purchase just add some blocks or use multi blocks. Of course, if you have a cabin sliding hatch, you would need some kind of turning block or deck organizer. Allen On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: > ** > > > Greetings,, > > I am looking to add a boom vang to Kool Beans and wondering if anyone > has one for sale (reasonable!). It dosen't have to be fancy, just need to > get the job done. > > Thank you all in advance! > > Jim Ives - Kool Beans > Rochester, NY > > >

RE: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang

r good2012-02-25 18:34 UTC
some of the most reasonably priced will be brand spankin' new from Garhauer. Reggie To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: ne… [at] hotmail.com Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:08:07 +0000 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang Greetings,, I am looking to add a boom vang to Kool Beans and wondering if anyone has one for sale (reasonable!). It dosen't have to be fancy, just need to get the job done. Thank you all in advance! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Rochester, NY

RE: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang

Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)2012-02-25 20:08 UTC
Hi, Jim. Do you already have a vang set-up and you are replacing, or are you starting from scratch. Parts pictures are for fresh start. Absolutely agree with Reggie. Garhauer is good stuff (no financial connection, etc.). If you have a block with cam cleat at the top on the block connected to the boom, you won't need the deck stuff (assuming that you can reach the cleat from the cockpit). Total for the two parts is about $100. This takes 3/8" line, which should be plenty. Just make sure that the screws/rivets you use at the fitting boom connection are not in a vertical row. I once busted a boom in two that way during a very interesting thunderstorm. The vang attach picture is a decent mount for the boom end. Either that or you can use a canvas strap with the attachment thingys (thingies?) that fit into your boom sail slide. Bottom attachment can be some kind of eye strap or padeye attached to base of mast. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:35 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang some of the most reasonably priced will be brand spankin' new from Garhauer. Reggie To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: ne… [at] hotmail.com Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:08:07 +0000 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang Greetings,, I am looking to add a boom vang to Kool Beans and wondering if anyone has one for sale (reasonable!). It dosen't have to be fancy, just need to get the job done. Thank you all in advance! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Rochester, NY

RE: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang [3 Attachments]

r good2012-02-25 20:12 UTC
the "strap thingy" boom attachment works well. In fact, I may have a vang with "strap thingy" laying around. Not sure when I'll have time to dig. I replaced it with a new rigid vang from Garhauer. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: hu… [at] bah.com Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:08:44 +0000 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang [3 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) included below] Hi, Jim. Do you already have a vang set-up and you are replacing, or are you starting from scratch. Parts pictures are for fresh start. Absolutely agree with Reggie. Garhauer is good stuff (no financial connection, etc.). If you have a block with cam cleat at the top on the block connected to the boom, you won’t need the deck stuff (assuming that you can reach the cleat from the cockpit). Total for the two parts is about $100. This takes 3/8” line, which should be plenty. Just make sure that the screws/rivets you use at the fitting boom connection are not in a vertical row. I once busted a boom in two that way during a very interesting thunderstorm. The vang attach picture is a decent mount for the boom end. Either that or you can use a canvas strap with the attachment thingys (thingies?) that fit into your boom sail slide. Bottom attachment can be some kind of eye strap or padeye attached to base of mast. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:35 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang some of the most reasonably priced will be brand spankin' new from Garhauer. Reggie To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: ne… [at] hotmail.com Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:08:07 +0000 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang Greetings,, I am looking to add a boom vang to Kool Beans and wondering if anyone has one for sale (reasonable!). It dosen't have to be fancy, just need to get the job done. Thank you all in advance! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Rochester, NY

RE: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang [3 Attachments]

Jim Ives2012-02-25 22:41 UTC
Charlie / Reggie,, Thank you for your information and advice! I will be starting from scratch with this project. By the way,, I'm not able to open the attachments :( Thanks again to a great group! Jim Ives - Kool Beans To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: hu… [at] bah.com Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:08:44 +0000 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang [3 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) included below] Hi, Jim. Do you already have a vang set-up and you are replacing, or are you starting from scratch. Parts pictures are for fresh start. Absolutely agree with Reggie. Garhauer is good stuff (no financial connection, etc.). If you have a block with cam cleat at the top on the block connected to the boom, you won’t need the deck stuff (assuming that you can reach the cleat from the cockpit). Total for the two parts is about $100. This takes 3/8” line, which should be plenty. Just make sure that the screws/rivets you use at the fitting boom connection are not in a vertical row. I once busted a boom in two that way during a very interesting thunderstorm. The vang attach picture is a decent mount for the boom end. Either that or you can use a canvas strap with the attachment thingys (thingies?) that fit into your boom sail slide. Bottom attachment can be some kind of eye strap or padeye attached to base of mast. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:35 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang some of the most reasonably priced will be brand spankin' new from Garhauer. Reggie To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: ne… [at] hotmail.com Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:08:07 +0000 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang Greetings,, I am looking to add a boom vang to Kool Beans and wondering if anyone has one for sale (reasonable!). It dosen't have to be fancy, just need to get the job done. Thank you all in advance! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Rochester, NY

RE: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang

Jim Ives2012-02-25 22:43 UTC
Allen,, What are the advantages of having a purchase greater than 4:1? Thanks for responding back! Jim Ives - Kool Beans To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: al… [at] gmail.com Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:22:43 -0800 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang Three single blocks and a cam cleat back at the cockpit. 4:1. If you want more purchase just add some blocks or use multi blocks. Of course, if you have a cabin sliding hatch, you would need some kind of turning block or deck organizer. Allen On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: Greetings,, I am looking to add a boom vang to Kool Beans and wondering if anyone has one for sale (reasonable!). It dosen't have to be fancy, just need to get the job done. Thank you all in advance! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Rochester, NY

RE: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang

Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)2012-02-25 23:44 UTC
Jim, attachment pictures coming to you directly. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ives Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:41 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang Charlie / Reggie,, Thank you for your information and advice! I will be starting from scratch with this project. By the way,, I'm not able to open the attachments :( Thanks again to a great group! Jim Ives - Kool Beans To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: hu… [at] bah.com Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:08:44 +0000 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang [3 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) included below] Hi, Jim. Do you already have a vang set-up and you are replacing, or are you starting from scratch. Parts pictures are for fresh start. Absolutely agree with Reggie. Garhauer is good stuff (no financial connection, etc.). If you have a block with cam cleat at the top on the block connected to the boom, you won't need the deck stuff (assuming that you can reach the cleat from the cockpit). Total for the two parts is about $100. This takes 3/8" line, which should be plenty. Just make sure that the screws/rivets you use at the fitting boom connection are not in a vertical row. I once busted a boom in two that way during a very interesting thunderstorm. The vang attach picture is a decent mount for the boom end. Either that or you can use a canvas strap with the attachment thingys (thingies?) that fit into your boom sail slide. Bottom attachment can be some kind of eye strap or padeye attached to base of mast. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:35 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang some of the most reasonably priced will be brand spankin' new from Garhauer. Reggie To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: ne… [at] hotmail.com Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:08:07 +0000 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang Greetings,, I am looking to add a boom vang to Kool Beans and wondering if anyone has one for sale (reasonable!). It dosen't have to be fancy, just need to get the job done. Thank you all in advance! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Rochester, NY

Re: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang

Allen Edwards2012-02-26 00:10 UTC
Hope this sketch comes through. It is an 8:1 vang with 4 single blocks. There are lots of potential variations. Allen [image: Inline image 1] On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: > ** > > > Allen,, > > What are the advantages of having a purchase greater than 4:1? Thanks for > responding back! > > Jim Ives - Kool Beans > > ------------------------------ > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: al… [at] gmail.com > Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:22:43 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang > > > Three single blocks and a cam cleat back at the cockpit. 4:1. If you > want more purchase just add some blocks or use multi blocks. Of course, if > you have a cabin sliding hatch, you would need some kind of turning block > or deck organizer. > > Allen > > > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: > > ** > > > > Greetings,, > > I am looking to add a boom vang to Kool Beans and wondering if anyone > has one for sale (reasonable!). It dosen't have to be fancy, just need to > get the job done. > > Thank you all in advance! > > Jim Ives - Kool Beans > Rochester, NY > > > > >

RE: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang

Mike McElhaney2012-02-26 00:26 UTC
Reggie is dead on on this one. You will have the extra added bonus of it fitting your boat right out of the box. Garhauer makes quality equipment and I think they have a lifetime guarantee against failure. From: r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, Feb 25, 2012 18:34:47 GMT+00:00 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang some of the most reasonably priced will be brand spankin' new from Garhauer. Reggie To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: ne… [at] hotmail.com Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:08:07 +0000 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang Greetings,, I am looking to add a boom vang to Kool Beans and wondering if anyone has one for sale (reasonable!). It dosen't have to be fancy, just need to get the job done. Thank you all in advance! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Rochester, NY

Re: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang

Allen Edwards2012-02-26 00:26 UTC
And if you want to go cheap, you can get a 5.4:1 system with two blocks, and a couple or $4 rings from REI. Just use nice, but small, blocks for the actual control line, that is the bottom two blocks. Then use These<http://www.rei.com/product/745608/omega-pacific-rappel-ring> instead of the upper two blocks. Use Amsteel as it is click and your loss through the rings is significant but not huge. Your 8:1 system will degrae to about 5.4 : 1 because of the friction in the rings due to the Amsteel but you now have a system you can make for about $60 that will be better than systems coating way over $100. The lower blocks are only taking maybe 100 pounds (twice what you can pull). The REI rings are rated for 5000 pounds so 1000 SWL, strong enough. For that matter, you could use 4 of the $15 blocks from Garhauer and it wold be strong enough. If you were worried, use a ring for the top one which gets you to 6.6:1. That would cost about $70 (plus line). Allen On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com>wrote: > Hope this sketch comes through. It is an 8:1 vang with 4 single blocks. > There are lots of potential variations. > > Allen > > > > [image: Inline image 1] > > > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> Allen,, >> >> What are the advantages of having a purchase greater than 4:1? Thanks for >> responding back! >> >> Jim Ives - Kool Beans >> >> ------------------------------ >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> From: al… [at] gmail.com >> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:22:43 -0800 >> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang >> >> >> Three single blocks and a cam cleat back at the cockpit. 4:1. If you >> want more purchase just add some blocks or use multi blocks. Of course, if >> you have a cabin sliding hatch, you would need some kind of turning block >> or deck organizer. >> >> Allen >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com>wrote: >> >> ** >> >> >> >> Greetings,, >> >> I am looking to add a boom vang to Kool Beans and wondering if anyone >> has one for sale (reasonable!). It dosen't have to be fancy, just need to >> get the job done. >> >> Thank you all in advance! >> >> Jim Ives - Kool Beans >> Rochester, NY >> >> >> >> >> > >

RE: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang

Harleigh Ewell2012-02-26 02:59 UTC
I have an unused Garhauer rigid vang that I had made for my Cal 31 but never installed. The reason I never installed it was that it would interfere with my air conditioner that, when being used, sits in the main hatch opening. Garhauer currently sells this vang for boats in the 28-44 ft. range for $495. I am willing to take $250 plus shipping. Harleigh Ewell From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ives Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 12:08 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Boom Vang Greetings,, I am looking to add a boom vang to Kool Beans and wondering if anyone has one for sale (reasonable!). It dosen't have to be fancy, just need to get the job done. Thank you all in advance! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Rochester, NY