Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian

Greg - I have an '80 Cal 39 on the Chesapeake that we've owned for about 4 years and they are great sailing boats. Ours had a lot of upgrades by the previous owner which was nice and we are in the middle of doing some more work on it, a lot of TLC at this point but will be looking to do some rigging work as soon as the boat kitty comes back from its last death . . . we're hoping it has nine lives at least ;-). Upgrades by PO included a new 56hp Yanmar, new boom, new Harken traveler, radar and chartplotter, rudder, paint job, new fuel tank, one new water tank, Hereshof interior paint job (wasn't crazy about it at first but now I love it and its a lot brighter below). What we have done: power planed the bottom to remove 20 years of "cruiser paint" faired and applied new barrier coat and Pettit Vivid white bottom paint (see below for more discussion) Recovered all interior cushions, added 2 self tailing cabin top winches and led boom vang, jib halyard, topping lift, main halyard aft to clutches. Modified the cleats on the traveler to pivot so that it can be adjusted at a wider angle of pull. Added dually led downhaul for spinnaker, bought carbon fibre spinnaker pole, added spin car tackle to raise the mast end of the spin pole, removed all deck hardware including the companion way cover and reamed out all the holes and filled with epoxy and re-drilled, replaced all mast base blocks. Removed all the vinyl on the cabin walls and painted with gloss white bilge coat. That's all I can think of at the moment. Re: bottom job. As it was described to me the hull of these boats were built in 2 halves with a seam right down the point of the "V". The structural portion of this connection point is in the interior of the boat and where the point of the "V" is, is actually about an inch wide. So what they did is lay all the structural glass in the interior of the boat and filled the gap between the interior glass and the bottom of the "V" with filler. Well on my boat this filler was loose and falling out in places so I dug out all the loose stuff and re-filled it with West Systems epoxy and 301 filler. I then ground down the glass on each side about 3 inches and laid a couple of 6" wide strips of fiberglass cloth down the length of the boat to keep that from ever coming out again. I then faired the whole bottom and painted with Pettit epoxy barrier coat. A LOT of work but well worth it when you are able to pass a well sailed Tartan 10 to leeward in 10 kts of breeze. Let me know if you have any questions. Here are some before pics. Starting the work. After Paul West Adventure Kwest '80 Cal 39 In a message dated 3/20/2012 9:30:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no… [at] yahoo.com writes: Jim, Thank you for the welcome! When we were looking to upgrade from our Catalina 27, we looked at a few Cal 29's, but then decided to just make the jump to our 'retirement' boat. Out of all the boats we looked at in our price range, we kept coming back to the Cal. Between the build quality and sailing ability, nothing else seemed to compare. I'm looking forward to the list knowledge in our future! Greg --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: From: Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 7:05 PM Greetings,, Welcome to the group! Congratulations on your hopefull acquistion of a great boat! I have found that the Cal boats offer great value and most importantly the fact that they where well built and designed by a legend! You and your wife should have many enjoyable journeys aboard your new vessel. I'm not a Cal 39 driver, but I have come to appreciate the quality in the design. I am in the process of re-habbing a Cal 2-29 from being crushed and realize that I found a diamond! It is just as fun working on her as sailing her! The group here is an awesome group, rich with knowledge and advice. I'm sure that you will meet up with other Cal boaters on the west coast and havae a great time! Enjoy! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Rochester, NY To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: no… [at] yahoo.com Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:17:03 +0000 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian Hello all! First post, but I figured I would start with something big (at least for me). My wife and I have made an offer on a '79 Cal 39 Corinthian in Washington and we will be moving it to the Bay Area sometime in the next couple of months. Still awaiting the survey results, but I was wondering if there are any other Cal 39 folks in the Bay Area. We looked at a few 39's and most were pretty rough. If the engine and systems look good on this one we'll be pretty happy with it. BTW, this is a great group. Following the banter it appears people love their Cals and enjoy working on them!

Paul, Wow, that looks amazing! I know how much work that must have been. Did you do all the work yourself, or hire it out? I'm hoping ours isn't like that, but we'll find out. The one we're getting has all new rigging and newly painted mast and boom, so at least that part is done. The interior is in pretty good shape, and we are planning on doing the bottom when we get it down from Washington. My plan was to sand it all down to at least the gel coat so we could start fresh. It looks like it has about 3 different colors on the bottom and will take a fair amount of sanding to get it down. I really hope we don't have to do fiberglass work, but you never know. Your's looks great. I noticed you have the aluminum toe rails. Was yours standard that way? How often do you have to do the bottom paint on yours? Greg --- On Tue, 3/20/12, pw… [at] aol.com <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: From: pw… [at] aol.com <pw… [at] aol.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 20, 2012, 7:30 AM Greg - I have an '80 Cal 39 on the Chesapeake that we've owned for about 4 years and they are great sailing boats. Ours had a lot of upgrades by the previous owner which was nice and we are in the middle of doing some more work on it, a lot of TLC at this point but will be looking to do some rigging work as soon as the boat kitty comes back from its last death . . . we're hoping it has nine lives at least ;-). Upgrades by PO included a new 56hp Yanmar, new boom, new Harken traveler, radar and chartplotter, rudder, paint job, new fuel tank, one new water tank, Hereshof interior paint job (wasn't crazy about it at first but now I love it and its a lot brighter below). What we have done: power planed the bottom to remove 20 years of "cruiser paint" faired and applied new barrier coat and Pettit Vivid white bottom paint (see below for more discussion) Recovered all interior cushions, added 2 self tailing cabin top winches and led boom vang, jib halyard, topping lift, main halyard aft to clutches. Modified the cleats on the traveler to pivot so that it can be adjusted at a wider angle of pull. Added dually led downhaul for spinnaker, bought carbon fibre spinnaker pole, added spin car tackle to raise the mast end of the spin pole, removed all deck hardware including the companion way cover and reamed out all the holes and filled with epoxy and re-drilled, replaced all mast base blocks. Removed all the vinyl on the cabin walls and painted with gloss white bilge coat. That's all I can think of at the moment. Re: bottom job. As it was described to me the hull of these boats were built in 2 halves with a seam right down the point of the "V". The structural portion of this connection point is in the interior of the boat and where the point of the "V" is, is actually about an inch wide. So what they did is lay all the structural glass in the interior of the boat and filled the gap between the interior glass and the bottom of the "V" with filler. Well on my boat this filler was loose and falling out in places so I dug out all the loose stuff and re-filled it with West Systems epoxy and 301 filler. I then ground down the glass on each side about 3 inches and laid a couple of 6" wide strips of fiberglass cloth down the length of the boat to keep that from ever coming out again. I then faired the whole bottom and painted with Pettit epoxy barrier coat. A LOT of work but well worth it when you are able to pass a well sailed Tartan 10 to leeward in 10 kts of breeze. Let me know if you have any questions. Here are some before pics. Starting the work. After Paul West Adventure Kwest '80 Cal 39 In a message dated 3/20/2012 9:30:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no… [at] yahoo.com writes: Jim, Thank you for the welcome! When we were looking to upgrade from our Catalina 27, we looked at a few Cal 29's, but then decided to just make the jump to our 'retirement' boat. Out of all the boats we looked at in our price range, we kept coming back to the Cal. Between the build quality and sailing ability, nothing else seemed to compare. I'm looking forward to the list knowledge in our future! Greg --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: From: Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 7:05 PM Greetings,, Welcome to the group! Congratulations on your hopefull acquistion of a great boat! I have found that the Cal boats offer great value and most importantly the fact that they where well built and designed by a legend! You and your wife should have many enjoyable journeys aboard your new vessel. I'm not a Cal 39 driver, but I have come to appreciate the quality in the design. I am in the process of re-habbing a Cal 2-29 from being crushed and realize that I found a diamond! It is just as fun working on her as sailing her! The group here is an awesome group, rich with knowledge and advice. I'm sure that you will meet up with other Cal boaters on the west coast and havae a great time! Enjoy! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Rochester, NY To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: no… [at] yahoo.com Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:17:03 +0000 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian Hello all! First post, but I figured I would start with something big (at least for me). My wife and I have made an offer on a '79 Cal 39 Corinthian in Washington and we will be moving it to the Bay Area sometime in the next couple of months. Still awaiting the survey results, but I was wondering if there are any other Cal 39 folks in the Bay Area. We looked at a few 39's and most were pretty rough. If the engine and systems look good on this one we'll be pretty happy with it. BTW, this is a great group. Following the banter it appears people love their Cals and enjoy working on them!

Amazing beauty! *´¨) ¸.· ´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·**¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·' ( ..........-_/) [cid:image005.png@01CBF93B.85770E70] Timm Lessley From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg vanDalen Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:45 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian Paul, Wow, that looks amazing! I know how much work that must have been. Did you do all the work yourself, or hire it out? I'm hoping ours isn't like that, but we'll find out. The one we're getting has all new rigging and newly painted mast and boom, so at least that part is done. The interior is in pretty good shape, and we are planning on doing the bottom when we get it down from Washington. My plan was to sand it all down to at least the gel coat so we could start fresh. It looks like it has about 3 different colors on the bottom and will take a fair amount of sanding to get it down. I really hope we don't have to do fiberglass work, but you never know. Your's looks great. I noticed you have the aluminum toe rails. Was yours standard that way? How often do you have to do the bottom paint on yours? Greg --- On Tue, 3/20/12, pw… [at] aol.com <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: From: pw… [at] aol.com <pw… [at] aol.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 20, 2012, 7:30 AM Greg - I have an '80 Cal 39 on the Chesapeake that we've owned for about 4 years and they are great sailing boats. Ours had a lot of upgrades by the previous owner which was nice and we are in the middle of doing some more work on it, a lot of TLC at this point but will be looking to do some rigging work as soon as the boat kitty comes back from its last death . . . we're hoping it has nine lives at least ;-). Upgrades by PO included a new 56hp Yanmar, new boom, new Harken traveler, radar and chartplotter, rudder, paint job, new fuel tank, one new water tank, Hereshof interior paint job (wasn't crazy about it at first but now I love it and its a lot brighter below). What we have done: power planed the bottom to remove 20 years of "cruiser paint" faired and applied new barrier coat and Pettit Vivid white bottom paint (see below for more discussion) Recovered all interior cushions, added 2 self tailing cabin top winches and led boom vang, jib halyard, topping lift, main halyard aft to clutches. Modified the cleats on the traveler to pivot so that it can be adjusted at a wider angle of pull. Added dually led downhaul for spinnaker, bought carbon fibre spinnaker pole, added spin car tackle to raise the mast end of the spin pole, removed all deck hardware including the companion way cover and reamed out all the holes and filled with epoxy and re-drilled, replaced all mast base blocks. Removed all the vinyl on the cabin walls and painted with gloss white bilge coat. That's all I can think of at the moment. Re: bottom job. As it was described to me the hull of these boats were built in 2 halves with a seam right down the point of the "V". The structural portion of this connection point is in the interior of the boat and where the point of the "V" is, is actually about an inch wide. So what they did is lay all the structural glass in the interior of the boat and filled the gap between the interior glass and the bottom of the "V" with filler. Well on my boat this filler was loose and falling out in places so I dug out all the loose stuff and re-filled it with West Systems epoxy and 301 filler. I then ground down the glass on each side about 3 inches and laid a couple of 6" wide strips of fiberglass cloth down the length of the boat to keep that from ever coming out again. I then faired the whole bottom and painted with Pettit epoxy barrier coat. A LOT of work but well worth it when you are able to pass a well sailed Tartan 10 to leeward in 10 kts of breeze. [cid:image002.jpg@01CD0678.0231C230] Let me know if you have any questions. Here are some before pics. [cid:image003.jpg@01CD0678.0231C230][cid:image004.jpg@01CD0678.0231C230] Starting the work. [cid:image005.jpg@01CD0678.0231C230] After [cid:image006.jpg@01CD0678.0231C230][cid:image007.jpg@01CD0678.0231C230] Paul West Adventure Kwest '80 Cal 39 In a message dated 3/20/2012 9:30:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no… [at] yahoo.com writes: Jim, Thank you for the welcome! When we were looking to upgrade from our Catalina 27, we looked at a few Cal 29's, but then decided to just make the jump to our 'retirement' boat. Out of all the boats we looked at in our price range, we kept coming back to the Cal. Between the build quality and sailing ability, nothing else seemed to compare. I'm looking forward to the list knowledge in our future! Greg --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: From: Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 7:05 PM Greetings,, Welcome to the group! Congratulations on your hopefull acquistion of a great boat! I have found that the Cal boats offer great value and most importantly the fact that they where well built and designed by a legend! You and your wife should have many enjoyable journeys aboard your new vessel. I'm not a Cal 39 driver, but I have come to appreciate the quality in the design. I am in the process of re-habbing a Cal 2-29 from being crushed and realize that I found a diamond! It is just as fun working on her as sailing her! The group here is an awesome group, rich with knowledge and advice. I'm sure that you will meet up with other Cal boaters on the west coast and havae a great time! Enjoy! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Rochester, NY To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: no… [at] yahoo.com Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:17:03 +0000 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian Hello all! First post, but I figured I would start with something big (at least for me). My wife and I have made an offer on a '79 Cal 39 Corinthian in Washington and we will be moving it to the Bay Area sometime in the next couple of months. Still awaiting the survey results, but I was wondering if there are any other Cal 39 folks in the Bay Area. We looked at a few 39's and most were pretty rough. If the engine and systems look good on this one we'll be pretty happy with it. BTW, this is a great group. Following the banter it appears people love their Cals and enjoy working on them!

Greg - I started sanding but after an hour with an orbital sander with 80 grit paper on it I could see that it was going to take weeks if my shoulders held up. I had it power planed for $1200 and they did it in a day. I still had to sand it to get the bottom I wanted but it wasn't nearly as bad as it would have been. These boats were built toward the end of the Cal haydays and mine and another list member, Wayne Gillikin had some odd issues with ours. For instance I had one stanchion that never had any nuts on the bolts and as a result there was a leak that rotted out the bottom of the fwd cabinet next to the head behind the settee. I've forgotten what his issues were but he described the some of the finish workmanship as being done by "drunk prisoners". He and I have the same layout with a stbd galley and aft facing nav station. That said, there is another list member with an '80 (I think) model with the port galley and stbd quarterberth and nav station and his interior construction is worlds above what I have. My boat was built for Ray Hunt's son (he designed the later Cals), Jim Hunt and had a few modifications, I don't know if the toe rail was one of them though. I have all opening ports and an in between 6' draft as opposed to 6'-8" or 5'-6". Oh, one more thing. Check the base of the mast. Mine sat on an aluminum "shoe" that in turn sat on a 1/8" thick piece of stainless plate that was about 12" wide by 18" long +\-. Well the mast had started to corrode at the bottom and the stainless plate was sagging. When I pulled the plate up the fiberglass support that it was sitting on looked like swiss cheese and wasn't flat! So I mixed up a runny slurry of West Systems and 301 and poured it into all the holes until they were filled up and then troweled it as level as I could. It took a lot, probably more than a gallon of slurry. I then had my rigger double the thickness of the plate and he cut about an inch off the bottom of the mast. To regain the inch I had him cut a spacer our of Delrin to eliminate the contact between aluminum and the stainless to reduce the potential for corrosion. Good luck and don't hesitate to shoot me any question you may have. If I don't know the answer I know someone who does. Paul In a message dated 3/20/2012 10:45:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no… [at] yahoo.com writes: Paul, Wow, that looks amazing! I know how much work that must have been. Did you do all the work yourself, or hire it out? I'm hoping ours isn't like that, but we'll find out. The one we're getting has all new rigging and newly painted mast and boom, so at least that part is done. The interior is in pretty good shape, and we are planning on doing the bottom when we get it down from Washington. My plan was to sand it all down to at least the gel coat so we could start fresh. It looks like it has about 3 different colors on the bottom and will take a fair amount of sanding to get it down. I really hope we don't have to do fiberglass work, but you never know. Your's looks great. I noticed you have the aluminum toe rails. Was yours standard that way? How often do you have to do the bottom paint on yours? Greg --- On Tue, 3/20/12, pw… [at] aol.com <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: From: pw… [at] aol.com <pw… [at] aol.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 20, 2012, 7:30 AM Greg - I have an '80 Cal 39 on the Chesapeake that we've owned for about 4 years and they are great sailing boats. Ours had a lot of upgrades by the previous owner which was nice and we are in the middle of doing some more work on it, a lot of TLC at this point but will be looking to do some rigging work as soon as the boat kitty comes back from its last death . . . we're hoping it has nine lives at least ;-). Upgrades by PO included a new 56hp Yanmar, new boom, new Harken traveler, radar and chartplotter, rudder, paint job, new fuel tank, one new water tank, Hereshof interior paint job (wasn't crazy about it at first but now I love it and its a lot brighter below). What we have done: power planed the bottom to remove 20 years of "cruiser paint" faired and applied new barrier coat and Pettit Vivid white bottom paint (see below for more discussion) Recovered all interior cushions, added 2 self tailing cabin top winches and led boom vang, jib halyard, topping lift, main halyard aft to clutches. Modified the cleats on the traveler to pivot so that it can be adjusted at a wider angle of pull. Added dually led downhaul for spinnaker, bought carbon fibre spinnaker pole, added spin car tackle to raise the mast end of the spin pole, removed all deck hardware including the companion way cover and reamed out all the holes and filled with epoxy and re-drilled, replaced all mast base blocks. Removed all the vinyl on the cabin walls and painted with gloss white bilge coat. That's all I can think of at the moment. Re: bottom job. As it was described to me the hull of these boats were built in 2 halves with a seam right down the point of the "V". The structural portion of this connection point is in the interior of the boat and where the point of the "V" is, is actually about an inch wide. So what they did is lay all the structural glass in the interior of the boat and filled the gap between the interior glass and the bottom of the "V" with filler. Well on my boat this filler was loose and falling out in places so I dug out all the loose stuff and re-filled it with West Systems epoxy and 301 filler. I then ground down the glass on each side about 3 inches and laid a couple of 6" wide strips of fiberglass cloth down the length of the boat to keep that from ever coming out again. I then faired the whole bottom and painted with Pettit epoxy barrier coat. A LOT of work but well worth it when you are able to pass a well sailed Tartan 10 to leeward in 10 kts of breeze. Let me know if you have any questions. Here are some before pics. Starting the work. After Paul West Adventure Kwest '80 Cal 39 In a message dated 3/20/2012 9:30:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no… [at] yahoo.com writes: Jim, Thank you for the welcome! When we were looking to upgrade from our Catalina 27, we looked at a few Cal 29's, but then decided to just make the jump to our 'retirement' boat. Out of all the boats we looked at in our price range, we kept coming back to the Cal. Between the build quality and sailing ability, nothing else seemed to compare. I'm looking forward to the list knowledge in our future! Greg --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: From: Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 7:05 PM Greetings,, Welcome to the group! Congratulations on your hopefull acquistion of a great boat! I have found that the Cal boats offer great value and most importantly the fact that they where well built and designed by a legend! You and your wife should have many enjoyable journeys aboard your new vessel. I'm not a Cal 39 driver, but I have come to appreciate the quality in the design. I am in the process of re-habbing a Cal 2-29 from being crushed and realize that I found a diamond! It is just as fun working on her as sailing her! The group here is an awesome group, rich with knowledge and advice. I'm sure that you will meet up with other Cal boaters on the west coast and havae a great time! Enjoy! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Rochester, NY To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: no… [at] yahoo.com Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:17:03 +0000 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian Hello all! First post, but I figured I would start with something big (at least for me). My wife and I have made an offer on a '79 Cal 39 Corinthian in Washington and we will be moving it to the Bay Area sometime in the next couple of months. Still awaiting the survey results, but I was wondering if there are any other Cal 39 folks in the Bay Area. We looked at a few 39's and most were pretty rough. If the engine and systems look good on this one we'll be pretty happy with it. BTW, this is a great group. Following the banter it appears people love their Cals and enjoy working on them!

Paul, I'm the original owner of a 1979 Cal 39 now on LI Sound. I've done many upgrades and maintenance jobs over the years as have we all. You mentioned two changes to yours that I've thought about and never pursued because I couldn't see a good way to do them - (1) lead halyards back to cockpit, (2) remove vinyl headliner and refinish with what?. I'd be curious about how you did those projects (any pictures?). I put on the epoxy barrier coat 10 years ago and that has worked out really well - huge job to remove all the old paint first - not sure I could even do that today. Bob Andrew Cal 39 Nereid On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:30 AM, <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: > ** > Greg - > > I have an '80 Cal 39 on the Chesapeake that we've owned for about 4 years > and they are great sailing boats. Ours had a lot of upgrades by the > previous owner which was nice and we are in the middle of doing some more > work on it, a lot of TLC at this point but will be looking to do some > rigging work as soon as the boat kitty comes back from its last death . . . > we're hoping it has nine lives at least ;-). > > Upgrades by PO included a new 56hp Yanmar, new boom, new Harken > traveler, radar and chartplotter, rudder, paint job, new fuel tank, one new > water tank, Hereshof interior paint job (wasn't crazy about it at first > but now I love it and its a lot brighter below). > > What we have done: power planed the bottom to remove 20 years of "cruiser > paint" faired and applied new barrier coat and Pettit Vivid white bottom > paint (see below for more discussion) Recovered all interior cushions, > added 2 self tailing cabin top winches and led boom vang, jib halyard, > topping lift, main halyard aft to clutches. Modified the cleats on the > traveler to pivot so that it can be adjusted at a wider angle of pull. > Added dually led downhaul for spinnaker, bought carbon fibre spinnaker > pole, added spin car tackle to raise the mast end of the spin pole, removed > all deck hardware including the companion way cover and reamed out all the > holes and filled with epoxy and re-drilled, replaced all mast base > blocks. Removed all the vinyl on the cabin walls and painted with gloss > white bilge coat. That's all I can think of at the moment. > > Re: bottom job. As it was described to me the hull of these boats were > built in 2 halves with a seam right down the point of the "V". The > structural portion of this connection point is in the interior of the boat > and where the point of the "V" is, is actually about an inch wide. So what > they did is lay all the structural glass in the interior of the boat and > filled the gap between the interior glass and the bottom of the "V" with > filler. Well on my boat this filler was loose and falling out in places so > I dug out all the loose stuff and re-filled it with West Systems epoxy and > 301 filler. I then ground down the glass on each side about 3 inches and > laid a couple of 6" wide strips of fiberglass cloth down the length of the > boat to keep that from ever coming out again. I then faired the whole > bottom and painted with Pettit epoxy barrier coat. A LOT of work but well > worth it when you are able to pass a well sailed Tartan 10 to leeward in 10 > kts of breeze. > > > > > > Let me know if you have any questions. Here are some before pics. > > Starting the work. > After > > Paul West > Adventure Kwest > '80 Cal 39 > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/20/2012 9:30:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > no… [at] yahoo.com writes: > > > > Jim, > > Thank you for the welcome! When we were looking to upgrade from our > Catalina 27, we looked at a few Cal 29's, but then decided to just make the > jump to our 'retirement' boat. Out of all the boats we looked at in our > price range, we kept coming back to the Cal. Between the build quality and > sailing ability, nothing else seemed to compare. > > I'm looking forward to the list knowledge in our future! > > Greg > > --- On *Mon, 3/19/12, Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com>* wrote: > > > From: Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian > To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 7:05 PM > > > Greetings,, > > Welcome to the group! Congratulations on your hopefull acquistion of a > great boat! I have found that the Cal boats offer great value and most > importantly the fact that they where well built and designed by a legend! > You and your wife should have many enjoyable journeys aboard your new > vessel. I'm not a Cal 39 driver, but I have come to appreciate the quality > in the design. I am in the process of re-habbing a Cal 2-29 from being > crushed and realize that I found a diamond! It is just as fun working on > her as sailing her! > > The group here is an awesome group, rich with knowledge and advice. I'm > sure that you will meet up with other Cal boaters on the west coast and > havae a great time! > > Enjoy! > > Jim Ives - Kool Beans > Rochester, NY > > ------------------------------ > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: no… [at] yahoo.com > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:17:03 +0000 > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian > > > Hello all! First post, but I figured I would start with something big > (at least for me). My wife and I have made an offer on a '79 Cal 39 > Corinthian in Washington and we will be moving it to the Bay Area sometime > in the next couple of months. Still awaiting the survey results, but I was > wondering if there are any other Cal 39 folks in the Bay Area. We looked at > a few 39's and most were pretty rough. If the engine and systems look good > on this one we'll be pretty happy with it. > > BTW, this is a great group. Following the banter it appears people love > their Cals and enjoy working on them! > > >

Thanks Timm - Always nice to get a compliment on hard work! BTW I forwarded your death roll story to a friend of mine who owns Belle Aurore here on the Chesapeake. Last year, or the year before, they won their class in the Newport to Bermuda race and I think were 3rd overall. I always like to mention that before I mention that we beat him in a 30 mile race down the Chesapeake Bay from Annapolis to St. Michaels after shoving him over the starting line early. We also only had a crew of 5, one of which had sailed dinghys occasionally and his girlfriend who'd never sailed at all. We also had all dacron sails and a 2 blade fixed prop compared to his Kevlar blends and max prop. Needless to say that gives me hope of doing well when we are finally ready to do a Bermuda race as his navigator is a friend of mine too that I hope will be able to come along. Paul In a message dated 3/20/2012 11:01:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, t im… [at] ch2m.com writes: Amazing beauty! *´¨) ¸.· ´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·**¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·' ( ......….-_/) Timm Lessley From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg vanDalen Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:45 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian Paul, Wow, that looks amazing! I know how much work that must have been. Did you do all the work yourself, or hire it out? I'm hoping ours isn't like that, but we'll find out. The one we're getting has all new rigging and newly painted mast and boom, so at least that part is done. The interior is in pretty good shape, and we are planning on doing the bottom when we get it down from Washington. My plan was to sand it all down to at least the gel coat so we could start fresh. It looks like it has about 3 different colors on the bottom and will take a fair amount of sanding to get it down. I really hope we don't have to do fiberglass work, but you never know. Your's looks great. I noticed you have the aluminum toe rails. Was yours standard that way? How often do you have to do the bottom paint on yours? Greg --- On Tue, 3/20/12, pw… [at] aol.com <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: From: pw… [at] aol.com <pw… [at] aol.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 20, 2012, 7:30 AM Greg - I have an '80 Cal 39 on the Chesapeake that we've owned for about 4 years and they are great sailing boats. Ours had a lot of upgrades by the previous owner which was nice and we are in the middle of doing some more work on it, a lot of TLC at this point but will be looking to do some rigging work as soon as the boat kitty comes back from its last death . . . we're hoping it has nine lives at least ;-). Upgrades by PO included a new 56hp Yanmar, new boom, new Harken traveler, radar and chartplotter, rudder, paint job, new fuel tank, one new water tank, Hereshof interior paint job (wasn't crazy about it at first but now I love it and its a lot brighter below). What we have done: power planed the bottom to remove 20 years of "cruiser paint" faired and applied new barrier coat and Pettit Vivid white bottom paint (see below for more discussion) Recovered all interior cushions, added 2 self tailing cabin top winches and led boom vang, jib halyard, topping lift, main halyard aft to clutches. Modified the cleats on the traveler to pivot so that it can be adjusted at a wider angle of pull. Added dually led downhaul for spinnaker, bought carbon fibre spinnaker pole, added spin car tackle to raise the mast end of the spin pole, removed all deck hardware including the companion way cover and reamed out all the holes and filled with epoxy and re-drilled, replaced all mast base blocks. Removed all the vinyl on the cabin walls and painted with gloss white bilge coat. That's all I can think of at the moment. Re: bottom job. As it was described to me the hull of these boats were built in 2 halves with a seam right down the point of the "V". The structural portion of this connection point is in the interior of the boat and where the point of the "V" is, is actually about an inch wide. So what they did is lay all the structural glass in the interior of the boat and filled the gap between the interior glass and the bottom of the "V" with filler. Well on my boat this filler was loose and falling out in places so I dug out all the loose stuff and re-filled it with West Systems epoxy and 301 filler. I then ground down the glass on each side about 3 inches and laid a couple of 6" wide strips of fiberglass cloth down the length of the boat to keep that from ever coming out again. I then faired the whole bottom and painted with Pettit epoxy barrier coat. A LOT of work but well worth it when you are able to pass a well sailed Tartan 10 to leeward in 10 kts of breeze. Let me know if you have any questions. Here are some before pics. Starting the work. After Paul West Adventure Kwest '80 Cal 39 In a message dated 3/20/2012 9:30:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no… [at] yahoo.com writes: Jim, Thank you for the welcome! When we were looking to upgrade from our Catalina 27, we looked at a few Cal 29's, but then decided to just make the jump to our 'retirement' boat. Out of all the boats we looked at in our price range, we kept coming back to the Cal. Between the build quality and sailing ability, nothing else seemed to compare. I'm looking forward to the list knowledge in our future! Greg --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: From: Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 7:05 PM Greetings,, Welcome to the group! Congratulations on your hopefull acquistion of a great boat! I have found that the Cal boats offer great value and most importantly the fact that they where well built and designed by a legend! You and your wife should have many enjoyable journeys aboard your new vessel. I'm not a Cal 39 driver, but I have come to appreciate the quality in the design. I am in the process of re-habbing a Cal 2-29 from being crushed and realize that I found a diamond! It is just as fun working on her as sailing her! The group here is an awesome group, rich with knowledge and advice. I'm sure that you will meet up with other Cal boaters on the west coast and havae a great time! Enjoy! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Rochester, NY To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: no… [at] yahoo.com Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:17:03 +0000 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian Hello all! First post, but I figured I would start with something big (at least for me). My wife and I have made an offer on a '79 Cal 39 Corinthian in Washington and we will be moving it to the Bay Area sometime in the next couple of months. Still awaiting the survey results, but I was wondering if there are any other Cal 39 folks in the Bay Area. We looked at a few 39's and most were pretty rough. If the engine and systems look good on this one we'll be pretty happy with it. BTW, this is a great group. Following the banter it appears people love their Cals and enjoy working on them!

Bob - Here ya go. This is the preliminary laying out. Note how the traveler leads aft. It is impossible to adjust under any kind of load. After installation. You can see where the old winches were. The outboard winch was unusable with a dodger up. The interior winch is the main sheet winch, the outboard is for everything else. Glue before grinding off with a 3" wire wheel on a right angle grinder. This is the bottom of the cabinet that had rotted out. I had designed the plate and had my rigger make the stainless plate to go between the blocks on the traveler and I bought the Harken swivel cam cleats. This way someone on the rail can actually play the traveler as needed (they still need to be strong but the Hulk himself could not adjust it the way it was led previously). The PO had installed a lathe ceiling which I like but is a pain in the arse to do any work overhead. Here you can see the white bilge coat paint that replaced the vinyl. I am almost done filling and re-drilling all the holes in the cabin top and will put the lathe back on once and hopefully for all. I hope this helps. I hope to head up to the boat today and will take some better pics. Paul In a message dated 3/20/2012 11:13:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rh… [at] cornell.edu writes: Paul, I'm the original owner of a 1979 Cal 39 now on LI Sound. I've done many upgrades and maintenance jobs over the years as have we all. You mentioned two changes to yours that I've thought about and never pursued because I couldn't see a good way to do them - (1) lead halyards back to cockpit, (2) remove vinyl headliner and refinish with what?. I'd be curious about how you did those projects (any pictures?). I put on the epoxy barrier coat 10 years ago and that has worked out really well - huge job to remove all the old paint first - not sure I could even do that today. Bob Andrew Cal 39 Nereid On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:30 AM, <_p… [at] aol.com_ (mailto:pw… [at] aol.com) > wrote: Greg - I have an '80 Cal 39 on the Chesapeake that we've owned for about 4 years and they are great sailing boats. Ours had a lot of upgrades by the previous owner which was nice and we are in the middle of doing some more work on it, a lot of TLC at this point but will be looking to do some rigging work as soon as the boat kitty comes back from its last death . . . we're hoping it has nine lives at least ;-). Upgrades by PO included a new 56hp Yanmar, new boom, new Harken traveler, radar and chartplotter, rudder, paint job, new fuel tank, one new water tank, Hereshof interior paint job (wasn't crazy about it at first but now I love it and its a lot brighter below). What we have done: power planed the bottom to remove 20 years of "cruiser paint" faired and applied new barrier coat and Pettit Vivid white bottom paint (see below for more discussion) Recovered all interior cushions, added 2 self tailing cabin top winches and led boom vang, jib halyard, topping lift, main halyard aft to clutches. Modified the cleats on the traveler to pivot so that it can be adjusted at a wider angle of pull. Added dually led downhaul for spinnaker, bought carbon fibre spinnaker pole, added spin car tackle to raise the mast end of the spin pole, removed all deck hardware including the companion way cover and reamed out all the holes and filled with epoxy and re-drilled, replaced all mast base blocks. Removed all the vinyl on the cabin walls and painted with gloss white bilge coat. That's all I can think of at the moment. Re: bottom job. As it was described to me the hull of these boats were built in 2 halves with a seam right down the point of the "V". The structural portion of this connection point is in the interior of the boat and where the point of the "V" is, is actually about an inch wide. So what they did is lay all the structural glass in the interior of the boat and filled the gap between the interior glass and the bottom of the "V" with filler. Well on my boat this filler was loose and falling out in places so I dug out all the loose stuff and re-filled it with West Systems epoxy and 301 filler. I then ground down the glass on each side about 3 inches and laid a couple of 6" wide strips of fiberglass cloth down the length of the boat to keep that from ever coming out again. I then faired the whole bottom and painted with Pettit epoxy barrier coat. A LOT of work but well worth it when you are able to pass a well sailed Tartan 10 to leeward in 10 kts of breeze. Let me know if you have any questions. Here are some before pics. Starting the work. After Paul West Adventure Kwest '80 Cal 39 In a message dated 3/20/2012 9:30:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _n… [at] yahoo.com_ (mailto:no… [at] yahoo.com) writes: Jim, Thank you for the welcome! When we were looking to upgrade from our Catalina 27, we looked at a few Cal 29's, but then decided to just make the jump to our 'retirement' boat. Out of all the boats we looked at in our price range, we kept coming back to the Cal. Between the build quality and sailing ability, nothing else seemed to compare. I'm looking forward to the list knowledge in our future! Greg --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Jim Ives <_n… [at] hotmail.com_ (mailto:ne… [at] hotmail.com) > wrote: From: Jim Ives <_n… [at] hotmail.com_ (mailto:ne… [at] hotmail.com) > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian To: _c… [at] yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:ca… [at] yahoogroups.com) Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 7:05 PM Greetings,, Welcome to the group! Congratulations on your hopefull acquistion of a great boat! I have found that the Cal boats offer great value and most importantly the fact that they where well built and designed by a legend! You and your wife should have many enjoyable journeys aboard your new vessel. I'm not a Cal 39 driver, but I have come to appreciate the quality in the design. I am in the process of re-habbing a Cal 2-29 from being crushed and realize that I found a diamond! It is just as fun working on her as sailing her! The group here is an awesome group, rich with knowledge and advice. I'm sure that you will meet up with other Cal boaters on the west coast and havae a great time! Enjoy! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Rochester, NY To: _C… [at] yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com) From: _n… [at] yahoo.com_ (mailto:no… [at] yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:17:03 +0000 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian Hello all! First post, but I figured I would start with something big (at least for me). My wife and I have made an offer on a '79 Cal 39 Corinthian in Washington and we will be moving it to the Bay Area sometime in the next couple of months. Still awaiting the survey results, but I was wondering if there are any other Cal 39 folks in the Bay Area. We looked at a few 39's and most were pretty rough. If the engine and systems look good on this one we'll be pretty happy with it. BTW, this is a great group. Following the banter it appears people love their Cals and enjoy working on them!

Paul, thanks for all the pictures. I want to study them for a bit and then I hope you don't mind if I get back to you with a few questions. Bob On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:53 AM, <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: > ** > Bob - > > Here ya go. This is the preliminary laying out. Note how the traveler > leads aft. It is impossible to adjust under any kind of load. > > > After installation. You can see where the old winches were. The > outboard winch was unusable with a dodger up. The interior winch is the > main sheet winch, the outboard is for everything else. > > Glue before grinding off with a 3" wire wheel on a right angle grinder. > > > This is the bottom of the cabinet that had rotted out. > I had designed the plate and had my rigger make the stainless plate to > go between the blocks on the traveler and I bought the Harken swivel cam > cleats. This way someone on the rail can actually play the traveler as > needed (they still need to be strong but the Hulk himself could not adjust > it the way it was led previously). > > The PO had installed a lathe ceiling which I like but is a pain in the > arse to do any work overhead. Here you can see the white bilge coat paint > that replaced the vinyl. I am almost done filling and re-drilling all the > holes in the cabin top and will put the lathe back on once and hopefully > for all. > > I hope this helps. I hope to head up to the boat today and will take some > better pics. > > Paul > > > > In a message dated 3/20/2012 11:13:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > rh… [at] cornell.edu writes: > > > > Paul, I'm the original owner of a 1979 Cal 39 now on LI Sound. I've done > many upgrades and maintenance jobs over the years as have we all. You > mentioned two changes to yours that I've thought about and never pursued > because I couldn't see a good way to do them - (1) lead halyards back to > cockpit, (2) remove vinyl headliner and refinish with what?. I'd be > curious about how you did those projects (any pictures?). I put on the > epoxy barrier coat 10 years ago and that has worked out really well - huge > job to remove all the old paint first - not sure I could even do that > today. > > Bob Andrew > Cal 39 Nereid > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:30 AM, <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: > >> ** >> Greg - >> >> I have an '80 Cal 39 on the Chesapeake that we've owned for about 4 years >> and they are great sailing boats. Ours had a lot of upgrades by the >> previous owner which was nice and we are in the middle of doing some more >> work on it, a lot of TLC at this point but will be looking to do some >> rigging work as soon as the boat kitty comes back from its last death . . . >> we're hoping it has nine lives at least ;-). >> >> Upgrades by PO included a new 56hp Yanmar, new boom, new Harken >> traveler, radar and chartplotter, rudder, paint job, new fuel tank, one new >> water tank, Hereshof interior paint job (wasn't crazy about it at first >> but now I love it and its a lot brighter below). >> >> What we have done: power planed the bottom to remove 20 years of >> "cruiser paint" faired and applied new barrier coat and Pettit Vivid white >> bottom paint (see below for more discussion) Recovered all interior >> cushions, added 2 self tailing cabin top winches and led boom vang, jib >> halyard, topping lift, main halyard aft to clutches. Modified the cleats >> on the traveler to pivot so that it can be adjusted at a wider angle of >> pull. Added dually led downhaul for spinnaker, bought carbon fibre >> spinnaker pole, added spin car tackle to raise the mast end of the spin >> pole, removed all deck hardware including the companion way cover and >> reamed out all the holes and filled with epoxy and re-drilled, replaced all >> mast base blocks. Removed all the vinyl on the cabin walls and painted with >> gloss white bilge coat. That's all I can think of at the moment. >> >> Re: bottom job. As it was described to me the hull of these boats were >> built in 2 halves with a seam right down the point of the "V". The >> structural portion of this connection point is in the interior of the boat >> and where the point of the "V" is, is actually about an inch wide. So what >> they did is lay all the structural glass in the interior of the boat and >> filled the gap between the interior glass and the bottom of the "V" with >> filler. Well on my boat this filler was loose and falling out in places so >> I dug out all the loose stuff and re-filled it with West Systems epoxy and >> 301 filler. I then ground down the glass on each side about 3 inches and >> laid a couple of 6" wide strips of fiberglass cloth down the length of the >> boat to keep that from ever coming out again. I then faired the whole >> bottom and painted with Pettit epoxy barrier coat. A LOT of work but well >> worth it when you are able to pass a well sailed Tartan 10 to leeward in 10 >> kts of breeze. >> >> >> >> >> >> Let me know if you have any questions. Here are some before pics. >> >> Starting the work. >> After >> >> Paul West >> Adventure Kwest >> '80 Cal 39 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 3/20/2012 9:30:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> no… [at] yahoo.com writes: >> >> >> >> Jim, >> >> Thank you for the welcome! When we were looking to upgrade from our >> Catalina 27, we looked at a few Cal 29's, but then decided to just make the >> jump to our 'retirement' boat. Out of all the boats we looked at in our >> price range, we kept coming back to the Cal. Between the build quality and >> sailing ability, nothing else seemed to compare. >> >> I'm looking forward to the list knowledge in our future! >> >> Greg >> >> --- On *Mon, 3/19/12, Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com>* wrote: >> >> >> From: Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> >> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian >> To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 7:05 PM >> >> >> Greetings,, >> >> Welcome to the group! Congratulations on your hopefull acquistion of a >> great boat! I have found that the Cal boats offer great value and most >> importantly the fact that they where well built and designed by a legend! >> You and your wife should have many enjoyable journeys aboard your new >> vessel. I'm not a Cal 39 driver, but I have come to appreciate the quality >> in the design. I am in the process of re-habbing a Cal 2-29 from being >> crushed and realize that I found a diamond! It is just as fun working on >> her as sailing her! >> >> The group here is an awesome group, rich with knowledge and advice. I'm >> sure that you will meet up with other Cal boaters on the west coast and >> havae a great time! >> >> Enjoy! >> >> Jim Ives - Kool Beans >> Rochester, NY >> >> ------------------------------ >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> From: no… [at] yahoo.com >> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:17:03 +0000 >> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian >> >> >> Hello all! First post, but I figured I would start with something big >> (at least for me). My wife and I have made an offer on a '79 Cal 39 >> Corinthian in Washington and we will be moving it to the Bay Area sometime >> in the next couple of months. Still awaiting the survey results, but I was >> wondering if there are any other Cal 39 folks in the Bay Area. We looked at >> a few 39's and most were pretty rough. If the engine and systems look good >> on this one we'll be pretty happy with it. >> >> BTW, this is a great group. Following the banter it appears people love >> their Cals and enjoy working on them! >> >> >> >

Bob, that's fine. Hopefully I'll get a chance to take some better pictures. Not going to make it to the boat tonight afterall. Paul From: Robert Andrew <rh… [at] cornell.edu> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 6:03 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian Paul, thanks for all the pictures. I want to study them for a bit and then I hope you don't mind if I get back to you with a few questions. Bob On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:53 AM, <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: Bob - Here ya go. This is the preliminary laying out. Note how the traveler leads aft. It is impossible to adjust under any kind of load. After installation. You can see where the old winches were. The outboard winch was unusable with a dodger up. The interior winch is the main sheet winch, the outboard is for everything else. Glue before grinding off with a 3" wire wheel on a right angle grinder. This is the bottom of the cabinet that had rotted out. I had designed the plate and had my rigger make the stainless plate to go between the blocks on the traveler and I bought the Harken swivel cam cleats. This way someone on the rail can actually play the traveler as needed (they still need to be strong but the Hulk himself could not adjust it the way it was led previously). The PO had installed a lathe ceiling which I like but is a pain in the arse to do any work overhead. Here you can see the white bilge coat paint that replaced the vinyl. I am almost done filling and re-drilling all the holes in the cabin top and will put the lathe back on once and hopefully for all. I hope this helps. I hope to head up to the boat today and will take some better pics. Paul In a message dated 3/20/2012 11:13:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rh… [at] cornell.edu writes: Paul, I'm the original owner of a 1979 Cal 39 now on LI Sound. I've done many upgrades and maintenance jobs over the years as have we all. You mentioned two changes to yours that I've thought about and never pursued because I couldn't see a good way to do them - (1) lead halyards back to cockpit, (2) remove vinyl headliner and refinish with what?. I'd be curious about how you did those projects (any pictures?). I put on the epoxy barrier coat 10 years ago and that has worked out really well - huge job to remove all the old paint first - not sure I could even do that today. Bob Andrew Cal 39 Nereid On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:30 AM, <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: Greg - I have an '80 Cal 39 on the Chesapeake that we've owned for about 4 years and they are great sailing boats. Ours had a lot of upgrades by the previous owner which was nice and we are in the middle of doing some more work on it, a lot of TLC at this point but will be looking to do some rigging work as soon as the boat kitty comes back from its last death . . . we're hoping it has nine lives at least ;-). Upgrades by PO included a new 56hp Yanmar, new boom, new Harken traveler, radar and chartplotter, rudder, paint job, new fuel tank, one new water tank, Hereshof interior paint job (wasn't crazy about it at first but now I love it and its a lot brighter below). What we have done: power planed the bottom to remove 20 years of "cruiser paint" faired and applied new barrier coat and Pettit Vivid white bottom paint (see below for more discussion) Recovered all interior cushions, added 2 self tailing cabin top winches and led boom vang, jib halyard, topping lift, main halyard aft to clutches. Modified the cleats on the traveler to pivot so that it can be adjusted at a wider angle of pull. Added dually led downhaul for spinnaker, bought carbon fibre spinnaker pole, added spin car tackle to raise the mast end of the spin pole, removed all deck hardware including the companion way cover and reamed out all the holes and filled with epoxy and re-drilled, replaced all mast base blocks. Removed all the vinyl on the cabin walls and painted with gloss white bilge coat. That's all I can think of at the moment. Re: bottom job. As it was described to me the hull of these boats were built in 2 halves with a seam right down the point of the "V". The structural portion of this connection point is in the interior of the boat and where the point of the "V" is, is actually about an inch wide. So what they did is lay all the structural glass in the interior of the boat and filled the gap between the interior glass and the bottom of the "V" with filler. Well on my boat this filler was loose and falling out in places so I dug out all the loose stuff and re-filled it with West Systems epoxy and 301 filler. I then ground down the glass on each side about 3 inches and laid a couple of 6" wide strips of fiberglass cloth down the length of the boat to keep that from ever coming out again. I then faired the whole bottom and painted with Pettit epoxy barrier coat. A LOT of work but well worth it when you are able to pass a well sailed Tartan 10 to leeward in 10 kts of breeze. Let me know if you have any questions. Here are some before pics. Starting the work. After Paul West Adventure Kwest '80 Cal 39 In a message dated 3/20/2012 9:30:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no… [at] yahoo.com writes: Jim, Thank you for the welcome! When we were looking to upgrade from our Catalina 27, we looked at a few Cal 29's, but then decided to just make the jump to our 'retirement' boat. Out of all the boats we looked at in our price range, we kept coming back to the Cal. Between the build quality and sailing ability, nothing else seemed to compare. I'm looking forward to the list knowledge in our future! Greg --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: From: Jim Ives <ne… [at] hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 7:05 PM Greetings,, Welcome to the group! Congratulations on your hopefull acquistion of a great boat! I have found that the Cal boats offer great value and most importantly the fact that they where well built and designed by a legend! You and your wife should have many enjoyable journeys aboard your new vessel. I'm not a Cal 39 driver, but I have come to appreciate the quality in the design. I am in the process of re-habbing a Cal 2-29 from being crushed and realize that I found a diamond! It is just as fun working on her as sailing her! The group here is an awesome group, rich with knowledge and advice. I'm sure that you will meet up with other Cal boaters on the west coast and havae a great time! Enjoy! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Rochester, NY To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: no… [at] yahoo.com Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:17:03 +0000 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 - Corinthian Hello all! First post, but I figured I would start with something big (at least for me). My wife and I have made an offer on a '79 Cal 39 Corinthian in Washington and we will be moving it to the Bay Area sometime in the next couple of months. Still awaiting the survey results, but I was wondering if there are any other Cal 39 folks in the Bay Area. We looked at a few 39's and most were pretty rough. If the engine and systems look good on this one we'll be pretty happy with it. BTW, this is a great group. Following the banter it appears people love their Cals and enjoy working on them!

I agree with Allen. We had our first boat, a CS 30 delivered from CT to Lewes, DE and long story short, they got caught in some high winds and 20' seas and had an accidental gybe in the middle of the night that took the end right off of the Harken traveler, destroyed a Lewmar mainsheet block (I still have it as it looks as if it melted), stirred up the gunk in the fuel tank so the fuel filter clogged and they could not use the engine, ripped the mainsail, knocked a light off bulkhead and puked all over the transom. The interior of the boat was soaked and generally a mess all the way around. We bought our Cal 39 in Maine and there was no way in Hell I was bringing her home on the water after being on the hard for 15 months. We called a bunch of trucking companies and got prices from $5000 to $2700. For $2700 you had to let them pick the delivery date and we gave them a preferred date and they got it to us within 3 days of our preferred date with no issues whatsovever. Paul In a message dated 3/31/2012 6:56:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, al… [at] gmail.com writes: I'm a little leary of sailing down the coast in a new boat, but we'll know more by the end of the week when the survey comes back. My advice to friends is that it is cheaper to put the boat on a truck then to pay for the damage you do to the boat on a delivery. They have thanked me for it. That said, going south should be a lot easier so this rule may not hold. Allen

My dad hit a log sailing along the Oregon Coast. The entire town came out to watch them come into port. It was big news on the local news radio station. I think that is why Mike suggested being 80 miles off shore. I did see a Cataline 38.5 delivered by truck to Berkeley last week. Only damage was to the tree branch that was hanging off the lifeline. [image: Inline image 1] Allen On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 7:48 PM, <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: > ** > > > ** > I agree with Allen. We had our first boat, a CS 30 delivered from CT to > Lewes, DE and long story short, they got caught in some high winds and 20' > seas and had an accidental gybe in the middle of the night that took the > end right off of the Harken traveler, destroyed a Lewmar mainsheet block (I > still have it as it looks as if it melted), stirred up the gunk in the fuel > tank so the fuel filter clogged and they could not use the engine, ripped > the mainsail, knocked a light off bulkhead and puked all over the transom. > The interior of the boat was soaked and generally a mess all the way around. > > We bought our Cal 39 in Maine and there was no way in Hell I was bringing > her home on the water after being on the hard for 15 months. We called a > bunch of trucking companies and got prices from $5000 to $2700. For $2700 > you had to let them pick the delivery date and we gave them a preferred > date and they got it to us within 3 days of our preferred date with no > issues whatsovever. > > Paul > > In a message dated 3/31/2012 6:56:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > al… [at] gmail.com writes: > > > > I'm a little leary of sailing down the coast in a new boat, but >> we'll know more by the end of the week when the survey comes back. >> >> > My advice to friends is that it is cheaper to put the boat on a truck then > to pay for the damage you do to the boat on a delivery. They have thanked > me for it. That said, going south should be a lot easier so this rule may > not hold. > > Allen > > >