engine replacement decision

My first choice was a fresh engine like the 4.107 I had. However, it was going to be $10,000 to get a factory rebuilt engine with all new marinization parts and a modest warranty, and I would have a "brand new" old engine which probqbly would have run forever, but with parts increasingly hard to find. I think they quit building that engine in the late 1970's. That price exceded the cost of many new engines, so it made sense to look at a new engine. I looked briefly at other brands, but a combination of price and the support of Joe Demers of Sound Marine Diesel, and the availability of Kubota parts if parts were needed swayed me towards the Beta Marine. I'm leaving out all the mental machinations which went into the decision to remove, repair, rebuild, replace. Reggie Good CLU, LUTCF, ChFC Reginald J Good Agency 135 Clothier Lane PO Box 654 Lakeside, MT 59922-0654 406-844-3143 1-800-823 LIFE(5433) fax: 406-844-3191 website www.Insurance-Solutions.biz email: Re… [at] Insurance-Solutions.biz --- bo… [at] msn.com wrote: From: "bo… [at] msn.com" <bo… [at] msn.com> To: re… [at] insurance-solutions.biz Subject: Re: Cautions and extractions Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:00:02 -0600 Reggie, so what will your new engine be? Can you describe the decision making process?

Good decision, my friend. You look particularly handsome with a beard, by the way. Very Nautical look for you. Wilkie On Apr 8, 2012, at 11:52 AM, r good wrote: My first choice was a fresh engine like the 4.107 I had. However, it was going to be $10,000 to get a factory rebuilt engine with all new marinization parts and a modest warranty, and I would have a "brand new" old engine which probqbly would have run forever, but with parts increasingly hard to find. I think they quit building that engine in the late 1970's. That price exceded the cost of many new engines, so it made sense to look at a new engine. I looked briefly at other brands, but a combination of price and the support of Joe Demers of Sound Marine Diesel, and the availability of Kubota parts if parts were needed swayed me towards the Beta Marine. I'm leaving out all the mental machinations which went into the decision to remove, repair, rebuild, replace. Reggie Good CLU, LUTCF, ChFC Reginald J Good Agency 135 Clothier Lane PO Box 654 Lakeside, MT 59922-0654 406-844-3143 1-800-823 LIFE(5433) fax: 406-844-3191 website www.Insurance-Solutions.biz email: Re… [at] Insurance-Solutions.biz --- bo… [at] msn.com wrote: From: "bo… [at] msn.com" <bo… [at] msn.com> To: re… [at] insurance-solutions.biz Subject: Re: Cautions and extractions Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:00:02 -0600 Reggie, so what will your new engine be? Can you describe the decision making process?

Is the Kubota a "common rail" engine? They are supposed to be much more efficient than the old style motors Mr. Diesel designed to run on surplus peanut oil. It's hard to imagine they can get the fuel oil to such high pressures without either leaking all over the place or exploding in a giant fireball. And why common rail instead of common tube or common reservoir? I'm still waiting for the combustion engineers to figure out how to make the walking beam engine in boat more efficient. I'm thinking about getting one of those newfangled triple expansion engines like I saw in the Jersey Central Rail Road ferry boat when I was a young-un (like the one that was later converted into a Hooter's restaurant). Jerry From: David Owen <dw… [at] me.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2012 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] engine replacement decision Good decision, my friend. You look particularly handsome with a beard, by the way. Very Nautical look for you. Wilkie On Apr 8, 2012, at 11:52 AM, r good wrote: My first choice was a fresh engine like the 4.107 I had. However, it was going to be $10,000 to get a factory rebuilt engine with all new marinization parts and a modest warranty, and I would have a "brand new" old engine which probqbly would have run forever, but with parts increasingly hard to find. I think they quit building that engine in the late 1970's. That price exceded the cost of many new engines, so it made sense to look at a new engine. I looked briefly at other brands, but a combination of price and the support of Joe Demers of Sound Marine Diesel, and the availability of Kubota parts if parts were needed swayed me towards the Beta Marine. I'm leaving out all the mental machinations which went into the decision to remove, repair, rebuild, replace. Reggie Good CLU, LUTCF, ChFC Reginald J Good Agency 135 Clothier Lane PO Box 654 Lakeside, MT 59922-0654 406-844-3143 1-800-823 LIFE(5433) fax: 406-844-3191 website www.Insurance-Solutions.biz email: Re… [at] Insurance-Solutions.biz --- bo… [at] msn.com wrote: From: "bo… [at] msn.com" <bo… [at] msn.com> To: re… [at] insurance-solutions.biz Subject: Re: Cautions and extractions Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:00:02 -0600 Reggie, so what will your new engine be? Can you describe the decision making process?

On 4/9/2012 1:49 AM, Gerald Sobel wrote: > > > Is the Kubota a "common rail" engine? ******* They are not. Right now, no computers are used on Kubota diesels for propulsion applications. However, the latest tier 4 emissions engines have an electronic governor when used in a generator application. I just installed a land based 15KW Kubota genset with this configuration. > They are supposed to be much more efficient than the old style motors > Mr. Diesel designed to run on surplus peanut oil. ***** Diesels are engines, not motors. Engines produce power, motors consume power. Of course, in Italy, you say "diesel motori". ******* Rudolf Diesel was actually a Dr of engineering. His first engine was designed to use coal dust as fuel, of which Germany had a very abundant supply. It was a byproduct of coal mining, and was available dirt cheap.The dust was injected into the cylinder with a blast of compressed air. One of his early designs exploded and nearly killed a worker. It took the Bosch company several years to develop a practical liquid fuel injection system. This lead to the creation of the first true diesel engine with a practical application. ******* Dr Diesel was evidently thrown overboard en route to England from Germany, on the eve of WW1. German agents were suspected, as he was apparently in discussions with the English concerning his invention. > It's hard to imagine they can get the fuel oil to such high pressures > without either leaking all over the place or exploding in a giant > fireball. And why common rail instead of common tube or common reservoir? ******* Common rail type fuel injection systems operate at very high fuel pressure. The fuel injectors are electronically controlled, and are actually small solenoid valves. The computer senses the exact moment to inject the fuel, and sends the "go" signal to the injector. The injector will first inject a small amount of fuel, to get the fire started, then a larger amount, then some more fuel, etc, as the engine runs. All this fuel injection amount and timing is dependent upon the engine's temperature, load, rpm, etc etc. This sophistication is needed to meet the latest engine emissions standards. ***** We tell customers that they only need one tool to fix a common rail type engine. That tool is a telephone, as one needs the latest training and tools to repair a common rail engine. *Joe DeMers - owner* Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184* > I'm still waiting for the combustion engineers to figure out how to > make the walking beam engine in boat more efficient. I'm thinking > about getting one of those newfangled triple expansion engines like I > saw in the Jersey Central Rail Road ferry boat when I was a young-un > (like the one that was later converted into a Hooter's restaurant). > Jerry > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* David Owen <dw… [at] me.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Sunday, April 8, 2012 12:19 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] engine replacement decision > > > > Good decision, my friend. > > You look particularly handsome with a beard, by the way. Very > Nautical look for you. > > > Wilkie > > > On Apr 8, 2012, at 11:52 AM, r good wrote: > > > > > My first choice was a fresh engine like the 4.107 I had. However, it > was going to be $10,000 to get a factory rebuilt engine with all new > marinization parts and a modest warranty, and I would have a "brand > new" old engine which probqbly would have run forever, but with parts > increasingly hard to find. I think they quit building that engine in > the late 1970's. > That price exceded the cost of many new engines, so it made sense to > look at a new engine. > I looked briefly at other brands, but a combination of price and the > support of Joe Demers of Sound Marine Diesel, and the availability of > Kubota parts if parts were needed swayed me towards the Beta Marine. > I'm leaving out all the mental machinations which went into the > decision to remove, repair, rebuild, replace. > > Reggie Good CLU, LUTCF, ChFC > Reginald J Good Agency > 135 Clothier Lane > PO Box 654 > Lakeside, MT 59922-0654 > 406-844-3143 > 1-800-823 LIFE(5433) > fax: 406-844-3191 > websitewww.Insurance-Solutions.biz <http://www.Insurance-Solutions.biz> > email:Re… [at] Insurance-Solutions.biz > <mailto:Re… [at] Insurance-Solutions.biz> > > --… [at] msn.com <mailto:bo… [at] msn.com>wrote: > > From: "bo… [at] msn.com <mailto:bo… [at] msn.com>" > <bo… [at] msn.com <mailto:bo… [at] msn.com>> > To:re… [at] insurance-solutions.biz > <mailto:re… [at] insurance-solutions.biz> > Subject: Re: Cautions and extractions > Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:00:02 -0600 > > Reggie, so what will your new engine be? Can you describe the decision > making process? > > /Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID/ > > > > > > > > > > -- *Joe DeMers - owner* Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184*