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here is lat 38 info low speed chase ... alter 20 knots leases and jack lines SORRY TO ALL THEY LEFT ....edward & helen (Cal 36) http://www.latitude38.com/lectronic/lectronicday.lasso?date=2012-04-16#.T4yzP9mVu1s

you can sign UP 'Lectronic Latitude on earlier post edward From: Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:05 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] racers lost here is lat 38 info low speed chase ... alter 20 knots leases and jack lines SORRY TO ALL THEY LEFT ....edward & helen (Cal 36) http://www.latitude38.com/lectronic/lectronicday.lasso?date=2012-04-16#.T4yzP9mVu1s

Obviously it is too early to come to conclusions about how this accident may have occurred, but my impression of the photo of the Sydney heading out the Gate is that he's awfully close to the rocks, tho this may be an artifact in depth perception of a telephoto lens shot. However, my hunch is if the boat was a little too close to the island as they rounded it could in part account for the sudden appearance of a tall wave, cause by the shallower depth. you see the same effect at the shoreline, or from a tidal wave. The crew of the Cal 40 saw big waves developing from where they were, 400 yds. away from shore. Anyway, I'm going to be a little more carefully next time I come close to the detached breakwater when I sail in during a race. I realize I've probably been pushing my luck. Especially when you think about the fact that there are your crew's and other boat crew's lives at stake if they attempt a rescue, not just you and your boat. Jerry From: Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] racers lost you can sign UP 'Lectronic Latitude on earlier post edward From: Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:05 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] racers lost here is lat 38 info low speed chase ... alter 20 knots leases and jack lines SORRY TO ALL THEY LEFT ....edward & helen (Cal 36) http://www.latitude38.com/lectronic/lectronicday.lasso?date=2012-04-16#.T4yzP9mVu1s

That was my first impression (too close) but after reading several accounts it seems like they didn't get too close until they tried to rescue the crew that went over. Apparently they pitch poled on a big wave and 4 crew went off the boat. They turned around and were rolled ejecting 2 of the remaining 3. Rolled several times before hitting the island. Two hung onto rocks and one stayed with the boat but in doing so broke his leg. My shipwright says they should have been clipped in. I assume they were on the rail. I don't race offshore so I can't comment on what should have been done. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ** > > > you can sign UP 'Lectronic Latitude > on earlier post edward > ------------------------------ > *From:* Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> > *To:* "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 5:05 PM > *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] racers lost > > > here is lat 38 info low speed chase ... > alter 20 knots leases and jack lines > SORRY TO ALL THEY LEFT ....edward & helen (Cal > 36) > > http://www.latitude38.com/lectronic/lectronicday.lasso?date=2012-04-16#.T4yzP9mVu1s > > > > > > > > > >

On 4/17/2012 10:45 AM, Allen Edwards wrote: > > That was my first impression (too close) but after reading several > accounts it seems like they didn't get too close until they tried to > rescue the crew that went over. Apparently they pitch poled on a big > wave and 4 crew went off the boat. They turned around and were rolled > ejecting 2 of the remaining 3. > I've seen the phenomenon of waves being magnified unexpectedly by entering shoal water. Once I was leaving a river in a dredged channel, with a shoal area in the middle of a "V" where the current channel and an abandoned channel converged. As I was headed out, a big (>700 feet) commercial freighter was coming in. This vessel had been accused a year earlier of operating too fast in a confined area, causing a gasoline tanker to break free from its mooring at a gas dock and catch on fire. Suddenly I saw in front of me a series of very large, very steep waves, formed when the freighter's bow wave went from deeper water to very shallow water. The shape of the waves made me fear that my boat would bury her bow. Luckily, they passed quickly and diminished a bit as they entered the deeper channel, but it was a genuine "oh, s___" moment. Apparently the freighter's captain lacked good judgment about appropriate speeds. Chris Campbell

Get your phone out and snap a picture then sent it to the Coast Guard. These guys are dangerous. Allen On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> wrote: > ** > > > ** On 4/17/2012 10:45 AM, Allen Edwards wrote: > > > > That was my first impression (too close) but after reading several > accounts it seems like they didn't get too close until they tried to rescue > the crew that went over. Apparently they pitch poled on a big wave and 4 > crew went off the boat. They turned around and were rolled ejecting 2 of > the remaining 3. > > > I've seen the phenomenon of waves being magnified unexpectedly by entering > shoal water. Once I was leaving a river in a dredged channel, with a shoal > area in the middle of a "V" where the current channel and an abandoned > channel converged. As I was headed out, a big (>700 feet) commercial > freighter was coming in. This vessel had been accused a year earlier of > operating too fast in a confined area, causing a gasoline tanker to break > free from its mooring at a gas dock and catch on fire. > > Suddenly I saw in front of me a series of very large, very steep waves, > formed when the freighter's bow wave went from deeper water to very shallow > water. The shape of the waves made me fear that my boat would bury her > bow. Luckily, they passed quickly and diminished a bit as they entered > the deeper channel, but it was a genuine "oh, s___" moment. > > Apparently the freighter's captain lacked good judgment about appropriate > speeds. > > Chris Campbell > > >