Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question

CALs of the vintage of the T/2 were still being built with mahogany interiors. Teak might have been an option on some models (CAL 25?). I think Teak started to become the standard in the late 1970's, maybe not on all models at first...but the interiors of that era (1977-80) appear darker in the woodwork. I know the interior woodwork of our 1970 CAL 21 was all mahogany (solid and plywood). Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:19:00 -0400 Craig Johnson <cr… [at] hotmail.com> writes: Hummm, I was under the impression that Jensen Marine used Mahogany for the interiors. At a glance, it doesn't look like the Teak in my previous boats, but other than looking at the problem and what the replacement will take, it didn't look too closely at the wood itself. I just assumed I knew what it was. Figures, as I am not able to locate Teak vernier plywood this far inland..... Oh well. Thanks, Craig Johnson To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: cc… [at] lsnm.org Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 10:46:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question On 4/19/2012 10:24 AM, Craig Johnson wrote: I have to replace the starboard bulkhead on my new T2. I've sourced some Mahogany plywood for the repair. Since the boats I've had to date have had Teak interiors I'm in a new world as to how to finish the Mahogany. If any of you have replaced any interior wood pieces, what have you used to match the finish/color of the existing pieces? I'm not sure what color you're trying to match, and if you're using mahogany to match a teak veneered plywood, it may present a challenge. But if you just want to make effective use of the pretty colors in mahogany, you can easily stain it with standard commercial stains. Interlux and Pettit make filler stains in various mahogany tones. The "filler" part is basically thick stuff that fills the open grain of the wood so when you put a finish over it, it's smooth. There are also woodworkers' stains, both the paint-store varieties (usually pigmented stains) and dye powders. The dyes are available in water-soluble and alcohol-soluble varieties. The alcohol kind does not raise the grain, but the water kind (which does) is more light-stable. To use the water kind, wet the surface first to raise the grain; let it dry, sand of the fuzz. Then apply the water-based dye stain. One way to darken and redden mahogany chemically is to use washing soda dissolved in warm water. It's basic and causes a chemical reaction in the mahogany, not just a surface pigment like most stains. I've got the formula at home but you can just go to the grocery store, buy washing soda, and dissolve some in water--apply liberally--let dry. You can also bleach mahogany to make it lighter. You can buy wood bleach (which is, I think, oxalic acid) or try good ol' laundry bleach. Chris Campbell 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f905d2459bd37b61cast02duc

Rod, Do you know if they used any kind of stain or was it just oiled? Thanks, Craig Johnson To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: rj… [at] juno.com Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:43:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question CALs of the vintage of the T/2 were still being built with mahogany interiors. Teak might have been an option on some models (CAL 25?). I think Teak started to become the standard in the late 1970's, maybe not on all models at first...but the interiors of that era (1977-80) appear darker in the woodwork. I know the interior woodwork of our 1970 CAL 21 was all mahogany (solid and plywood). Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:19:00 -0400 Craig Johnson <cr… [at] hotmail.com> writes: Hummm, I was under the impression that Jensen Marine used Mahogany for the interiors. At a glance, it doesn't look like the Teak in my previous boats, but other than looking at the problem and what the replacement will take, it didn't look too closely at the wood itself. I just assumed I knew what it was. Figures, as I am not able to locate Teak vernier plywood this far inland..... Oh well. Thanks, Craig Johnson To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: cc… [at] lsnm.org Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 10:46:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question On 4/19/2012 10:24 AM, Craig Johnson wrote: I have to replace the starboard bulkhead on my new T2. I've sourced some Mahogany plywood for the repair. Since the boats I've had to date have had Teak interiors I'm in a new world as to how to finish the Mahogany. If any of you have replaced any interior wood pieces, what have you used to match the finish/color of the existing pieces? I'm not sure what color you're trying to match, and if you're using mahogany to match a teak veneered plywood, it may present a challenge. But if you just want to make effective use of the pretty colors in mahogany, you can easily stain it with standard commercial stains. Interlux and Pettit make filler stains in various mahogany tones. The "filler" part is basically thick stuff that fills the open grain of the wood so when you put a finish over it, it's smooth. There are also woodworkers' stains, both the paint-store varieties (usually pigmented stains) and dye powders. The dyes are available in water-soluble and alcohol-soluble varieties. The alcohol kind does not raise the grain, but the water kind (which does) is more light-stable. To use the water kind, wet the surface first to raise the grain; let it dry, sand of the fuzz. Then apply the water-based dye stain. One way to darken and redden mahogany chemically is to use washing soda dissolved in warm water. It's basic and causes a chemical reaction in the mahogany, not just a surface pigment like most stains. I've got the formula at home but you can just go to the grocery store, buy washing soda, and dissolve some in water--apply liberally--let dry. You can also bleach mahogany to make it lighter. You can buy wood bleach (which is, I think, oxalic acid) or try good ol' laundry bleach. Chris Campbell 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried consumerproducts.com

I'm pretty sure (not a wood guy) that the CAL 25s were also mahogany ply with teak trim. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G. Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:44 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question CALs of the vintage of the T/2 were still being built with mahogany interiors. Teak might have been an option on some models (CAL 25?). I think Teak started to become the standard in the late 1970's, maybe not on all models at first...but the interiors of that era (1977-80) appear darker in the woodwork. I know the interior woodwork of our 1970 CAL 21 was all mahogany (solid and plywood). Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:19:00 -0400 Craig Johnson <cr… [at] hotmail.com<mailto:cr… [at] hotmail.com>> writes: Hummm, I was under the impression that Jensen Marine used Mahogany for the interiors. At a glance, it doesn't look like the Teak in my previous boats, but other than looking at the problem and what the replacement will take, it didn't look too closely at the wood itself. I just assumed I knew what it was. Figures, as I am not able to locate Teak vernier plywood this far inland..... Oh well. Thanks, Craig Johnson To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: cc… [at] lsnm.org Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 10:46:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question On 4/19/2012 10:24 AM, Craig Johnson wrote: I have to replace the starboard bulkhead on my new T2. I've sourced some Mahogany plywood for the repair. Since the boats I've had to date have had Teak interiors I'm in a new world as to how to finish the Mahogany. If any of you have replaced any interior wood pieces, what have you used to match the finish/color of the existing pieces? I'm not sure what color you're trying to match, and if you're using mahogany to match a teak veneered plywood, it may present a challenge. But if you just want to make effective use of the pretty colors in mahogany, you can easily stain it with standard commercial stains. Interlux and Pettit make filler stains in various mahogany tones. The "filler" part is basically thick stuff that fills the open grain of the wood so when you put a finish over it, it's smooth. There are also woodworkers' stains, both the paint-store varieties (usually pigmented stains) and dye powders. The dyes are available in water-soluble and alcohol-soluble varieties. The alcohol kind does not raise the grain, but the water kind (which does) is more light-stable. To use the water kind, wet the surface first to raise the grain; let it dry, sand of the fuzz. Then apply the water-based dye stain. One way to darken and redden mahogany chemically is to use washing soda dissolved in warm water. It's basic and causes a chemical reaction in the mahogany, not just a surface pigment like most stains. I've got the formula at home but you can just go to the grocery store, buy washing soda, and dissolve some in water--apply liberally--let dry. You can also bleach mahogany to make it lighter. You can buy wood bleach (which is, I think, oxalic acid) or try good ol' laundry bleach. Chris Campbell 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/4f905d2459bd37b61cast02duc>consumerproducts.com<http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/4f905d2459bd37b61cast02duc>

Stained and varnished as far as I know, but it was a light-color stain on bulkheads. For best results wood like mahogany needs a "filler-stain" to fill in the grain before varnishing. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:52:39 -0400 Craig Johnson <cr… [at] hotmail.com> writes: Rod, Do you know if they used any kind of stain or was it just oiled? Thanks, Craig Johnson To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: rj… [at] juno.com Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:43:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question CALs of the vintage of the T/2 were still being built with mahogany interiors. Teak might have been an option on some models (CAL 25?). I think Teak started to become the standard in the late 1970's, maybe not on all models at first...but the interiors of that era (1977-80) appear darker in the woodwork. I know the interior woodwork of our 1970 CAL 21 was all mahogany (solid and plywood). Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:19:00 -0400 Craig Johnson <cr… [at] hotmail.com> writes: Hummm, I was under the impression that Jensen Marine used Mahogany for the interiors. At a glance, it doesn't look like the Teak in my previous boats, but other than looking at the problem and what the replacement will take, it didn't look too closely at the wood itself. I just assumed I knew what it was. Figures, as I am not able to locate Teak vernier plywood this far inland..... Oh well. Thanks, Craig Johnson To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: cc… [at] lsnm.org Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 10:46:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question On 4/19/2012 10:24 AM, Craig Johnson wrote: I have to replace the starboard bulkhead on my new T2. I've sourced some Mahogany plywood for the repair. Since the boats I've had to date have had Teak interiors I'm in a new world as to how to finish the Mahogany. If any of you have replaced any interior wood pieces, what have you used to match the finish/color of the existing pieces? I'm not sure what color you're trying to match, and if you're using mahogany to match a teak veneered plywood, it may present a challenge. But if you just want to make effective use of the pretty colors in mahogany, you can easily stain it with standard commercial stains. Interlux and Pettit make filler stains in various mahogany tones. The "filler" part is basically thick stuff that fills the open grain of the wood so when you put a finish over it, it's smooth. There are also woodworkers' stains, both the paint-store varieties (usually pigmented stains) and dye powders. The dyes are available in water-soluble and alcohol-soluble varieties. The alcohol kind does not raise the grain, but the water kind (which does) is more light-stable. To use the water kind, wet the surface first to raise the grain; let it dry, sand of the fuzz. Then apply the water-based dye stain. One way to darken and redden mahogany chemically is to use washing soda dissolved in warm water. It's basic and causes a chemical reaction in the mahogany, not just a surface pigment like most stains. I've got the formula at home but you can just go to the grocery store, buy washing soda, and dissolve some in water--apply liberally--let dry. You can also bleach mahogany to make it lighter. You can buy wood bleach (which is, I think, oxalic acid) or try good ol' laundry bleach. Chris Campbell 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried consumerproducts.com

[cid:image004.png@01CD1E2C.7C113830] *´¨) ¸.· ´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·**¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·' ( ..........-_/) [cid:image005.png@01CBF93B.85770E70] Timm Lessley From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 12:53 PM To: CalList Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question Rod, Do you know if they used any kind of stain or was it just oiled? Thanks, Craig Johnson To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: rj… [at] juno.com Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:43:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question CALs of the vintage of the T/2 were still being built with mahogany interiors. Teak might have been an option on some models (CAL 25?). I think Teak started to become the standard in the late 1970's, maybe not on all models at first...but the interiors of that era (1977-80) appear darker in the woodwork. I know the interior woodwork of our 1970 CAL 21 was all mahogany (solid and plywood). Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:19:00 -0400 Craig Johnson <cr… [at] hotmail.com<mailto:cr… [at] hotmail.com>> writes: Hummm, I was under the impression that Jensen Marine used Mahogany for the interiors. At a glance, it doesn't look like the Teak in my previous boats, but other than looking at the problem and what the replacement will take, it didn't look too closely at the wood itself. I just assumed I knew what it was. Figures, as I am not able to locate Teak vernier plywood this far inland..... Oh well. Thanks, Craig Johnson To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: cc… [at] lsnm.org Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 10:46:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question On 4/19/2012 10:24 AM, Craig Johnson wrote: I have to replace the starboard bulkhead on my new T2. I've sourced some Mahogany plywood for the repair. Since the boats I've had to date have had Teak interiors I'm in a new world as to how to finish the Mahogany. If any of you have replaced any interior wood pieces, what have you used to match the finish/color of the existing pieces? I'm not sure what color you're trying to match, and if you're using mahogany to match a teak veneered plywood, it may present a challenge. But if you just want to make effective use of the pretty colors in mahogany, you can easily stain it with standard commercial stains. Interlux and Pettit make filler stains in various mahogany tones. The "filler" part is basically thick stuff that fills the open grain of the wood so when you put a finish over it, it's smooth. There are also woodworkers' stains, both the paint-store varieties (usually pigmented stains) and dye powders. The dyes are available in water-soluble and alcohol-soluble varieties. The alcohol kind does not raise the grain, but the water kind (which does) is more light-stable. To use the water kind, wet the surface first to raise the grain; let it dry, sand of the fuzz. Then apply the water-based dye stain. One way to darken and redden mahogany chemically is to use washing soda dissolved in warm water. It's basic and causes a chemical reaction in the mahogany, not just a surface pigment like most stains. I've got the formula at home but you can just go to the grocery store, buy washing soda, and dissolve some in water--apply liberally--let dry. You can also bleach mahogany to make it lighter. You can buy wood bleach (which is, I think, oxalic acid) or try good ol' laundry bleach. Chris Campbell 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/4f905d2459bd37b61cast02duc>consumerproducts.com<http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/4f905d2459bd37b61cast02duc>

Charlie, both were offered in different years. I'd say the majority of the 25s had mahogany interiors, with some teak trim. But at least one model year apparently there was at least an option of a Teak interior (possibly standard?) I'll try to post the 3 CAL 25 ads that I have on the YAHOO web page. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:54:22 +0000 "Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)" <hu… [at] bah.com> writes: I�m pretty sure (not a wood guy) that the CAL 25s were also mahogany ply with teak trim. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G. Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:44 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question CALs of the vintage of the T/2 were still being built with mahogany interiors. Teak might have been an option on some models (CAL 25?). I think Teak started to become the standard in the late 1970's, maybe not on all models at first...but the interiors of that era (1977-80) appear darker in the woodwork. I know the interior woodwork of our 1970 CAL 21 was all mahogany (solid and plywood). Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:19:00 -0400 Craig Johnson <cr… [at] hotmail.com> writes: Hummm, I was under the impression that Jensen Marine used Mahogany for the interiors. At a glance, it doesn't look like the Teak in my previous boats, but other than looking at the problem and what the replacement will take, it didn't look too closely at the wood itself. I just assumed I knew what it was. Figures, as I am not able to locate Teak vernier plywood this far inland..... Oh well. Thanks, Craig Johnson To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: cc… [at] lsnm.org Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 10:46:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question On 4/19/2012 10:24 AM, Craig Johnson wrote: I have to replace the starboard bulkhead on my new T2. I've sourced some Mahogany plywood for the repair. Since the boats I've had to date have had Teak interiors I'm in a new world as to how to finish the Mahogany. If any of you have replaced any interior wood pieces, what have you used to match the finish/color of the existing pieces? I'm not sure what color you're trying to match, and if you're using mahogany to match a teak veneered plywood, it may present a challenge. But if you just want to make effective use of the pretty colors in mahogany, you can easily stain it with standard commercial stains. Interlux and Pettit make filler stains in various mahogany tones. The "filler" part is basically thick stuff that fills the open grain of the wood so when you put a finish over it, it's smooth. There are also woodworkers' stains, both the paint-store varieties (usually pigmented stains) and dye powders. The dyes are available in water-soluble and alcohol-soluble varieties. The alcohol kind does not raise the grain, but the water kind (which does) is more light-stable. To use the water kind, wet the surface first to raise the grain; let it dry, sand of the fuzz. Then apply the water-based dye stain. One way to darken and redden mahogany chemically is to use washing soda dissolved in warm water. It's basic and causes a chemical reaction in the mahogany, not just a surface pigment like most stains. I've got the formula at home but you can just go to the grocery store, buy washing soda, and dissolve some in water--apply liberally--let dry. You can also bleach mahogany to make it lighter. You can buy wood bleach (which is, I think, oxalic acid) or try good ol' laundry bleach. Chris Campbell 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried consumerproducts.com

Charlie, here is the ad that leads me to the Teak interior theory. As well as one that backs up your answer. I'll post all that I have on the web album. Rod Johnson PS: I don't usually disagree with your CAL 25 knowledge, you are more of an expert on that model that me, Like I probably know more about the 21. That is the great thing about the CAL-List! On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:54:22 +0000 "Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)" <hu… [at] bah.com> writes: I�m pretty sure (not a wood guy) that the CAL 25s were also mahogany ply with teak trim. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G. Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:44 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question CALs of the vintage of the T/2 were still being built with mahogany interiors. Teak might have been an option on some models (CAL 25?). I think Teak started to become the standard in the late 1970's, maybe not on all models at first...but the interiors of that era (1977-80) appear darker in the woodwork. I know the interior woodwork of our 1970 CAL 21 was all mahogany (solid and plywood). Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 . 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f9063cfb93417b8edcst06duc

Thanks, Rod. Given the variation in interiors and even the lead slugs over the years, it is hard to say that the CAL 25 was/is a one design boat. Our modern modern criterion (with a few exceptions) in the CAL 25 Fleet is... Looks like a CAL 25? Yes? Check. Good enough. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G. Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:06 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question Charlie, both were offered in different years. I'd say the majority of the 25s had mahogany interiors, with some teak trim. But at least one model year apparently there was at least an option of a Teak interior (possibly standard?) I'll try to post the 3 CAL 25 ads that I have on the YAHOO web page. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:54:22 +0000 "Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)" <hu… [at] bah.com<mailto:hu… [at] bah.com>> writes: I'm pretty sure (not a wood guy) that the CAL 25s were also mahogany ply with teak trim. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]<mailto:[mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]> On Behalf Of Rodney G. Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:44 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question CALs of the vintage of the T/2 were still being built with mahogany interiors. Teak might have been an option on some models (CAL 25?). I think Teak started to become the standard in the late 1970's, maybe not on all models at first...but the interiors of that era (1977-80) appear darker in the woodwork. I know the interior woodwork of our 1970 CAL 21 was all mahogany (solid and plywood). Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:19:00 -0400 Craig Johnson <cr… [at] hotmail.com<mailto:cr… [at] hotmail.com>> writes: Hummm, I was under the impression that Jensen Marine used Mahogany for the interiors. At a glance, it doesn't look like the Teak in my previous boats, but other than looking at the problem and what the replacement will take, it didn't look too closely at the wood itself. I just assumed I knew what it was. Figures, as I am not able to locate Teak vernier plywood this far inland..... Oh well. Thanks, Craig Johnson To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> From: cc… [at] lsnm.org<mailto:cc… [at] lsnm.org> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 10:46:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question On 4/19/2012 10:24 AM, Craig Johnson wrote: I have to replace the starboard bulkhead on my new T2. I've sourced some Mahogany plywood for the repair. Since the boats I've had to date have had Teak interiors I'm in a new world as to how to finish the Mahogany. If any of you have replaced any interior wood pieces, what have you used to match the finish/color of the existing pieces? I'm not sure what color you're trying to match, and if you're using mahogany to match a teak veneered plywood, it may present a challenge. But if you just want to make effective use of the pretty colors in mahogany, you can easily stain it with standard commercial stains. Interlux and Pettit make filler stains in various mahogany tones. The "filler" part is basically thick stuff that fills the open grain of the wood so when you put a finish over it, it's smooth. There are also woodworkers' stains, both the paint-store varieties (usually pigmented stains) and dye powders. The dyes are available in water-soluble and alcohol-soluble varieties. The alcohol kind does not raise the grain, but the water kind (which does) is more light-stable. To use the water kind, wet the surface first to raise the grain; let it dry, sand of the fuzz. Then apply the water-based dye stain. One way to darken and redden mahogany chemically is to use washing soda dissolved in warm water. It's basic and causes a chemical reaction in the mahogany, not just a surface pigment like most stains. I've got the formula at home but you can just go to the grocery store, buy washing soda, and dissolve some in water--apply liberally--let dry. You can also bleach mahogany to make it lighter. You can buy wood bleach (which is, I think, oxalic acid) or try good ol' laundry bleach. Chris Campbell 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/4f905d2459bd37b61cast02duc>consumerproducts.com<http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/4f905d2459bd37b61cast02duc>

Rod, this is really neat. I have the original brochure from circa 1967. These are 1970, and probably 1973. Each represents a different interior (probably why they turned out new brochures). I'll detail the differences when I have a bit more time. I think that when they said "finished in teak", they meant the molding. I have one with the original interior and one with the last (sort of) interior. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G. Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:11 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Rodney G. Johnson included below] Charlie, here is the ad that leads me to the Teak interior theory. As well as one that backs up your answer. I'll post all that I have on the web album. Rod Johnson PS: I don't usually disagree with your CAL 25 knowledge, you are more of an expert on that model that me, Like I probably know more about the 21. That is the great thing about the CAL-List! On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:54:22 +0000 "Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)" <hu… [at] bah.com<mailto:hu… [at] bah.com>> writes: I'm pretty sure (not a wood guy) that the CAL 25s were also mahogany ply with teak trim. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G. Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:44 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question CALs of the vintage of the T/2 were still being built with mahogany interiors. Teak might have been an option on some models (CAL 25?). I think Teak started to become the standard in the late 1970's, maybe not on all models at first...but the interiors of that era (1977-80) appear darker in the woodwork. I know the interior woodwork of our 1970 CAL 21 was all mahogany (solid and plywood). Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 . Attachment(s) from Rodney G. Johnson 2 of 2 Photo(s) [Description: Image removed by sender. CAL25_Teak Interior.jpeg]<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/832797629/item/849204292/view> CAL25_Teak Interior.jpeg<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/832797629/item/849204292/view> [Description: Image removed by sender. 1970 Ad.jpg]<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/832797629/item/208312627/view> 1970 Ad.jpg<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/attachments/folder/832797629/item/208312627/view> 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/4f9063cfb93417b8edcst06duc>consumerproducts.com<http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/4f9063cfb93417b8edcst06duc>

My 1974 Cal-25 had a teak interior. The dinette was on the port side with the galley on starboard. The icebox was forward, the sink aft. Al 1974 Cal-25 #1693 "Sweet Mary" now under the command of a new owner 1985 Cal-33/2 #0026, "ShortWave" _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G. Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:11 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) <> from Rodney G. Johnson included below] Charlie, here is the ad that leads me to the Teak interior theory. As well as one that backs up your answer. I'll post all that I have on the web album. Rod Johnson PS: I don't usually disagree with your CAL 25 knowledge, you are more of an expert on that model that me, Like I probably know more about the 21. That is the great thing about the CAL-List! On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:54:22 +0000 "Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)" <hu… [at] bah.com> writes: I'm pretty sure (not a wood guy) that the CAL 25s were also mahogany ply with teak trim. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G. Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:44 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question CALs of the vintage of the T/2 were still being built with mahogany interiors. Teak might have been an option on some models (CAL 25?). I think Teak started to become the standard in the late 1970's, maybe not on all models at first...but the interiors of that era (1977-80) appear darker in the woodwork. I know the interior woodwork of our 1970 CAL 21 was all mahogany (solid and plywood). Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 . <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=16485695/grpspId=1705065792/msgI d=32599/stime=1334861668/nc1=3848627/nc2=4507179/nc3=4767085> <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/4f9063cfb93417b8edcst06duc> 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried consumerproducts.com <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/4f9063cfb93417b8edcst06duc>

My 1974 T/2 was all teak trim and teak/plywood vashonmike

Al, other than the trim, was it teak veneer or mahogany veneer ply? I'm not a wood guy, so I really can't tell the difference very well. I do know that the ply veneer is different between my 1967 and my 1974. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Al Waschka Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 2:47 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question My 1974 Cal-25 had a teak interior. The dinette was on the port side with the galley on starboard. The icebox was forward, the sink aft. Al 1974 Cal-25 #1693 "Sweet Mary" now under the command of a new owner 1985 Cal-33/2 #0026, "ShortWave" From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G. Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:11 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question [2 Attachments] Charlie, here is the ad that leads me to the Teak interior theory. As well as one that backs up your answer. I'll post all that I have on the web album. Rod Johnson PS: I don't usually disagree with your CAL 25 knowledge, you are more of an expert on that model that me, Like I probably know more about the 21. That is the great thing about the CAL-List! On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:54:22 +0000 "Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)" <hu… [at] bah.com<mailto:hu… [at] bah.com>> writes: I'm pretty sure (not a wood guy) that the CAL 25s were also mahogany ply with teak trim. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G. Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:44 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question CALs of the vintage of the T/2 were still being built with mahogany interiors. Teak might have been an option on some models (CAL 25?). I think Teak started to become the standard in the late 1970's, maybe not on all models at first...but the interiors of that era (1977-80) appear darker in the woodwork. I know the interior woodwork of our 1970 CAL 21 was all mahogany (solid and plywood). Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 . 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/4f9063cfb93417b8edcst06duc>consumerproducts.com<http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/4f9063cfb93417b8edcst06duc>

Hi Charlie, My boat looked like the one in the ad pictures that someone posted (Timm?) that were touting the "new teak interior". The plywood veneer, as well as the molding around the companionway, main bulkhead, dinette seats, berths and the galley fiddle were all teak. I just remembered that the brochure or manual I had touted it as "Burmese Teak". It was a really pretty golden brown. I had a friend who had an older boat with the different furniture arrangement and his wood was mahogany. Al _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 10:36 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question Al, other than the trim, was it teak veneer or mahogany veneer ply? I'm not a wood guy, so I really can't tell the difference very well. I do know that the ply veneer is different between my 1967 and my 1974. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Al Waschka Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 2:47 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question My 1974 Cal-25 had a teak interior. The dinette was on the port side with the galley on starboard. The icebox was forward, the sink aft. Al 1974 Cal-25 #1693 "Sweet Mary" now under the command of a new owner 1985 Cal-33/2 #0026, "ShortWave" _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G. Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:11 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question [2 Attachments] Charlie, here is the ad that leads me to the Teak interior theory. As well as one that backs up your answer. I'll post all that I have on the web album. Rod Johnson PS: I don't usually disagree with your CAL 25 knowledge, you are more of an expert on that model that me, Like I probably know more about the 21. That is the great thing about the CAL-List! On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:54:22 +0000 "Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)" <hu… [at] bah.com> writes: I'm pretty sure (not a wood guy) that the CAL 25s were also mahogany ply with teak trim. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G. Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:44 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Interior Mahogany Question CALs of the vintage of the T/2 were still being built with mahogany interiors. Teak might have been an option on some models (CAL 25?). I think Teak started to become the standard in the late 1970's, maybe not on all models at first...but the interiors of that era (1977-80) appear darker in the woodwork. I know the interior woodwork of our 1970 CAL 21 was all mahogany (solid and plywood). Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 . Description: Image removed by sender. <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/4f9063cfb93417b8edcst06duc> 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/4f9063cfb93417b8edcst06duc> consumerproducts.com