Cal 2-29 racing

Hi Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated Thanks Joe

Start with a good, clean smooth bottom, then buy new sails and a feathering or folding prop. You can know all the tricks, have the best crew but w/o giving your boat the tools to work with there is only so much you can do. The rest is learning your boat. I've been told it takes about 5 years to really learn a new boat and so far that's proven to be true for me at least. Paul From: Joseph McCloskey <jj… [at] yahoo.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, May 18, 2012 9:36 pm Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Hi Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated Thanks Joe

Maybe more unique to the Cal 29 is don't get tempted to pinch upwind. Other boats can point a bit higher. Let her her foot along in her groove. If you are racing downwind without a spinnaker, you will get more vmg by either going wing on wing ddw or by coming up enough to lift the clew of the jib. In between, there is a slow zone. Wing on wing with a whisker pole is effective. If you have a spinnaker, this does not matter. Other Cal 29 owners may have more to say on this. These are my experiences anyway. Good luck and have fun. Terry Spencer On May 18, 2012, at 6:35 PM, Joseph McCloskey wrote: > > Hi > > Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! > I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated > > Thanks > Joe > > >

Do your PM so the rigging always works. Always scrub the bottom prior to each race and a team for a crew. Fly the proper sails for the conditions, play the tides and cover when it makes sense, break for clean air when covered. We had 5 on the crew of a Cal 2-30, put together in the spring of 78 for the 78 seasons, we won 3 firsts, 2 seconds and a third at the awards banquet, took first for the 78 MORA season. It was the only time we were not kicked out of St Francis's Yacht Club's bar for being too rowdy........ Her name was RAMPAGE For fast sails in the SF area, Powered by Pineapple sails, On 5/18/2012 9:54 PM, pw… [at] aol.com wrote: > > Start with a good, clean smooth bottom, then buy new sails and a > feathering or folding prop. You can know all the tricks, have the > best crew but w/o giving your boat the tools to work with there is > only so much you can do. The rest is learning your boat. I've been > told it takes about 5 years to really learn a new boat and so far > that's proven to be true for me at least. > Paul > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph McCloskey <jj… [at] yahoo.com> > To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Fri, May 18, 2012 9:36 pm > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing > > Hi > > Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! > I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am > now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about > a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble > getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be > appreciated > > Thanks > Joe > >

Joe, this might sound controversial, but give it a try. Some of it depends on your foresail and the stretch (or lack of) characteristics thereof. Ease the backstay going upwind. Counterintuitive. The forestay saga off and gives the jib more belly. Given a CAL keel shape, this helps. Ease the jib halyard upwind (to the point of puckers). This flattens the sail entry, and lets you point higher. I'm sure I will catch grief for this on the list, but that is how I do it and it works. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph McCloskey Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 9:36 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Hi Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated Thanks Joe

Charlie, would that Cal 25 technique work in any boat, like, me Cal 24? With me ultra low aspect keel, I can point fifteen degrees below everyone else in the fleet. I'ts amazing. If I pointed as high as they are I'd be luffing, so I don't get it. I did race a bunch on a Gary Mull 23 Ranger, and that boat could out point everyone. Wow. I usually tighten my halyard enough to keep the luff from scalloping, and I sheet in using a barber hauler if the leg is long enuff. The Barberhauler helps. If I have plenty of wind, and I have enuff crew weight to hold the boat flat, she points real well. Oh yeah, I use some back stay tension, but not a lot. The sea waves are usually too sloppy to allow you to keep too sharp a trim, so again, if the wind is moderate, and the waves sloppy, I haul up the traveler and pay out the main sheet enuff to let the middle streamers fly, and the upper tell tale to fly most of the time. Jerry From: "Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)" <hu… [at] bah.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 8:28 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Joe, this might sound controversial, but give it a try. Some of it depends on your foresail and the stretch (or lack of) characteristics thereof. Ease the backstay going upwind. Counterintuitive. The forestay saga off and gives the jib more belly. Given a CAL keel shape, this helps. Ease the jib halyard upwind (to the point of puckers). This flattens the sail entry, and lets you point higher. I’m sure I will catch grief for this on the list, but that is how I do it and it works. Cheers Charlie From:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph McCloskey Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 9:36 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Hi Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated Thanks Joe

Number 1 know your boat and its upwind sweet spot or groove. Get a martec racing prop. You can win races with crappy sails if properly sized and adjusted for the conditions. We have done it for many years. You will increase the amount of winnings with newer sails that are designed and functioning properly. There are many adjustments that will tweak the cal 29 that have been already mentioned. But to reiterate less jib halyard tension will give a better lift until the wind increases to where you need to spill out some power. But you also need some of that power to pull you through the white caps. So you have to find the balance between lift, staying powered up and weather helm. We always found that if the destination was DDW we stayed as close as possible to DDW. Any of you racing this Sunday out of MDR City of Hope Regatta? I will be on one of the Catalina 42's. Hope to see some of you out there. Mark Cal 2-29 San Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: pw… [at] aol.com To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Start with a good, clean smooth bottom, then buy new sails and a feathering or folding prop. You can know all the tricks, have the best crew but w/o giving your boat the tools to work with there is only so much you can do. The rest is learning your boat. I've been told it takes about 5 years to really learn a new boat and so far that's proven to be true for me at least. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Joseph McCloskey <jj… [at] yahoo.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, May 18, 2012 9:36 pm Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Hi Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated Thanks Joe __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7149 (20120518) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7149 (20120518) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Mark, cool. I'm thinking of entering, which I was doubtful yesterday with a prediction of light winds. Today they are predicting 9 knots, and Saturday's weather should be like Sunday's, so, I'll see how the weather develops. Anyone out there in Cal Land looking for a ride? 3 On my boat would be good, as my crew Eric has severe shoulder pain, but we can manage. My Great Uncle Sam was a benefactor of the city of Hope back in the early1960's, around the time Shpritz was built. I have a good friend who will be racing his Catalina 42, Celerity. Don't you find jibing a bit going DDW will get better air into the jib? Jerry Cal 24, Shpritz From: Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) <ma… [at] cox.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing  Number 1 know your boat and its upwind sweet spot or groove. Get a martec racing prop. You can win races with crappy sails if properly sized and adjusted for the conditions. We have done it for many years. You will increase the amount of winnings with newer sails that are designed and functioning properly. There are many adjustments that will tweak the cal 29 that have been already mentioned. But to reiterate less jib halyard tension will give a better lift until the wind increases to where you need to spill out some power. But you also need some of that power to pull you through the white caps. So you have to find the balance between lift, staying powered up and weather helm. We always found that if the destination was DDW we stayed as close as possible to DDW. Any of you racing this Sunday out of MDR City of Hope Regatta? I will be on one of the Catalina 42's. Hope to see some of you out there. Mark Cal 2-29 San Pedro >From: pw… [at] aol.com >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 6:54 PM >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing > > >Start with a good, clean smooth bottom, then buy new sails and a feathering or folding prop. You can know all the tricks, have the best crew but w/o giving your boat the tools to work with there is only so much you can do. The rest is learning your boat. I've been told it takes about 5 years to really learn a new boat and so far that's proven to be true for me at least. >Paul >-----Original Message----- >From: Joseph McCloskey <jj… [at] yahoo.com> >To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Fri, May 18, 2012 9:36 pm >Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing > > > >Hi > > >Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! >I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated > > >Thanks >Joe > > > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7149 (20120518) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7149 (20120518) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Jerry, I like coming up just enough to keep the power at the end of the whisker pole then as the swell and white caps are close to the stern I will fall off and get the push towards the ddw course. I am not sure how that would work with a Catalina 42, but it works with boats that want to surf ddw. Hope to see some Cal boats! Mark From: Gerald Sobel To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 12:36 AM Subject: Sunday's City of Hope Regatta MdR, was Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Mark, cool. I'm thinking of entering, which I was doubtful yesterday with a prediction of light winds. Today they are predicting 9 knots, and Saturday's weather should be like Sunday's, so, I'll see how the weather develops. Anyone out there in Cal Land looking for a ride? 3 On my boat would be good, as my crew Eric has severe shoulder pain, but we can manage. My Great Uncle Sam was a benefactor of the city of Hope back in the early1960's, around the time Shpritz was built. I have a good friend who will be racing his Catalina 42, Celerity. Don't you find jibing a bit going DDW will get better air into the jib? Jerry Cal 24, Shpritz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) <ma… [at] cox.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing  Number 1 know your boat and its upwind sweet spot or groove. Get a martec racing prop. You can win races with crappy sails if properly sized and adjusted for the conditions. We have done it for many years. You will increase the amount of winnings with newer sails that are designed and functioning properly. There are many adjustments that will tweak the cal 29 that have been already mentioned. But to reiterate less jib halyard tension will give a better lift until the wind increases to where you need to spill out some power. But you also need some of that power to pull you through the white caps. So you have to find the balance between lift, staying powered up and weather helm. We always found that if the destination was DDW we stayed as close as possible to DDW. Any of you racing this Sunday out of MDR City of Hope Regatta? I will be on one of the Catalina 42's. Hope to see some of you out there. Mark Cal 2-29 San Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: pw… [at] aol.com To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Start with a good, clean smooth bottom, then buy new sails and a feathering or folding prop. You can know all the tricks, have the best crew but w/o giving your boat the tools to work with there is only so much you can do. The rest is learning your boat. I've been told it takes about 5 years to really learn a new boat and so far that's proven to be true for me at least. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Joseph McCloskey <jj… [at] yahoo.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, May 18, 2012 9:36 pm Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Hi Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated Thanks Joe __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7149 (20120518) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7149 (20120518) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7149 (20120518) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7149 (20120518) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Charlie - Joe, this might sound controversial, but give it a try. Some of it depends on your foresail and the stretch (or lack of) characteristics thereof. So does it work better with stretchier sails or non-stretchy sails? I'm guessing stretchy. Ease the backstay going upwind. Counterintuitive. The forestay saga off and gives the jib more belly. Given a CAL keel shape, this helps. Does this only work with the Cal's trapezoidal keel shape or will it work with the later keel shape? Ease the jib halyard upwind (to the point of puckers). This flattens the sail entry, and lets you point higher. I've heard these called speed wrinkles. I’m sure I will catch grief for this on the list, but that is how I do it and it works. What if you don't have a backstay adjuster, will just easing the jib halyard help? Thanks - Paul

OK, so nobody else is stepping up and giving grief to this idea. I just can't let it go. I am thinking that this advice is coming from someone you race against. Nothing helps pointing ability like a tight forestay. I race against Leda and they have an aluminum rig and larger wire. He puts about 5,000 pounds on the forestay where I am afraid to go higher than 1,300 with my wood rig. He out points me and if I try to point as high as he sails, I lose. However, if I just sail my own race and don't try and point where he is, I win as I am faster on every other point of sail. The tighter I make my forestay (I over tightened by accident one race) the higher I can point and still go fast. My advice is to keep the rig tight for upwind and find out your boats target speed and sail to that speed. Nothing is as sensitive to judge if you are sailing near your peak VMG than boat speed. Sail too fast and you are not pointing high enough. Sail too high and the boat goes slow. Figure out what that target speed is and sail to it. That is my advice. I worked for a couple of years on how to figure out target speeds and wrote it up on my web site but so far it has been too complicated for anyone to care. But it is there if you want. Allen On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:03 PM, <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: > ** > > > Chacc > P > * * > * * > * * > * * > * * > * * > *Charlie -* > > Joe, this might sound controversial, but give it a try. Some of it > depends on your foresail and the stretch (or lack of) characteristics > thereof. > > *So does it work better with stretchier sails or non-stretchy sails? I'm > guessing stretchy.* > > Ease the backstay going upwind. Counterintuitive. The forestay saga off > and gives the jib more belly. Given a CAL keel shape, this helps. > > *Does this only work with the Cal's trapezoidal keel shape or will it > work with the later keel shape?* > > Ease the jib halyard upwind (to the point of puckers). This flattens the > sail entry, and lets you point higher. > ** > *I've heard these called speed wrinkles.* > > I’m sure I will catch grief for this on the list, but that is how I do it > and it works. > ** > *What if you don't have a backstay adjuster, will just easing the jib > halyard help*? > > ** > *Thanks - * > ** > *Paul* > > >

I agree that an increase of backstay pressure will decrease headstay sag, remove wind pressure induced draft and move the position of maximum depth of chord back to where it needs to be to be fast. That said there are instances where more power is needed and can be generated by a fuller sail shape. The sailmaker uses his judgment and experience when he cuts the sail. Headstay sag factors in. Many boats just flex(bend) when pressure is applied to the backstay. If the rig is masthead or fractional, uses a baby stay or running backstays to control sail shape the same principles apply, cloth will travel to the tensioned wire. If your mast is not in column side to side and has an S bend increasing backstay tension will not achieve a tighter headstay but will rather pull the masthead off to leeward and induce more S curve. This is one instance where you boat may sail faster especially in waves and chop with less backstay pressure. 1) Yes, it does work better with streachy sails, use forestay, backstay, and halyard to adjust for wind speed(pressure) Sail shape for prevailing conditions is your goal. 2) Keel shape is a factor, however adjustments depend on conditions and if the sails are beyond ther racing performance life it may be impossibe to get the shape you desire-- Recut the sail if possible or a new sail is in order. 3) Yes, "speed wrinkles" are where halyard tension is just about right. New carbon of older kevlar sails do not wrinkle like dacron sails. They are not streachy and need less frequent halyard adjustment in changing wind speeds. 4) You cannot race well without a backstay adjuster. A cascade tackle with 48 to 1 ratio is a cost effective method to apply 5k pounds to the backstay. A jib halyard winch should be able to provide mechanical advantage in the 800-1200 pound range. 2000 pounds for a 36 foot 7 ton boat. Happy Sailing, The USCG has allowed race permitting for the Ocean. Next Ocean race is the Spinnaker cup from SF Bay to the Monterey Penninsula Yc next Friday. The Singlehanded Farallones is back on for August 4th. My Best, Mike Farrell Yellow Jack USA 57313 From: Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing OK, so nobody else is stepping up and giving grief to this idea. I just can't let it go. I am thinking that this advice is coming from someone you race against. Nothing helps pointing ability like a tight forestay. I race against Leda and they have an aluminum rig and larger wire. He puts about 5,000 pounds on the forestay where I am afraid to go higher than 1,300 with my wood rig. He out points me and if I try to point as high as he sails, I lose. However, if I just sail my own race and don't try and point where he is, I win as I am faster on every other point of sail. The tighter I make my forestay (I over tightened by accident one race) the higher I can point and still go fast. My advice is to keep the rig tight for upwind and find out your boats target speed and sail to that speed. Nothing is as sensitive to judge if you are sailing near your peak VMG than boat speed. Sail too fast and you are not pointing high enough. Sail too high and the boat goes slow. Figure out what that target speed is and sail to it. That is my advice. I worked for a couple of years on how to figure out target speeds and wrote it up on my web site but so far it has been too complicated for anyone to care. But it is there if you want. Allen On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:03 PM, <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: > ChaccP >Charlie - > >Joe, this might sound controversial, but give it a try. Some of it depends on your foresail and the stretch (or lack of) characteristics thereof. > >So does it work better with stretchier sails or non-stretchy sails? I'm guessing stretchy. > >Ease the backstay going upwind. Counterintuitive. The forestay saga off and gives the jib more belly. Given a CAL keel shape, this helps. > >Does this only work with the Cal's trapezoidal keel shape or will it work with the later keel shape? > >Ease the jib halyard upwind (to the point of puckers). This flattens the sail entry, and lets you point higher. > >I've heard these called speed wrinkles. > >I’m sure I will catch grief for this on the list, but that is how I do it and it works. > >What if you don't have a backstay adjuster, will just easing the jib halyard help? > > >Thanks - > >Paul

From: Joseph McCloskey <jj… [at] yahoo.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 6:35 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Hi Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated Thanks Joe

Wooopsiedaisy, musta hit wrong button. I guess me doing the race today, anyone wanna come along call me at 310-399-0844 or cell 310-403-6784. Skippers meeting at SMWYC at 10AM and my boats at G2418 on Mindanao Way. $25 contribution to City of Hope per racer. Should be fun, 11 knots of wind and up and down coast and round some buoys, finish inside harbor. Jerry SMWYC is at the end of Mindanao Way From: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing From: Joseph McCloskey <jj… [at] yahoo.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 6:35 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Hi Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated Thanks Joe

Mark, Which Catalina where U on? Our local Cat 42 Celerity took first. After saying I'd do the race I felt I couldn't back out even tho, getting up early makes me feel like [a] carp out of water. We flubbed the start by mis-gauging the time it takes to reverse course twice and hit the start...I missed having my analogue watch; nothing beats having a graphic representation of time. But we fought to keep the fleet in sight and as the wind built up in the afternoon my Cal was really picking up 'steam'. We saw consistent + or -7 knots broad reaching back from the Santa Monica pier, and got some good aerodymaic lift out of the poled out genny coming down the main channel, and we picked off the last place Catalina 42as we rounded the bend passing fisherman's village. But we didn't think we'd done that well, overall. So when one dock make offered us Brandy, and another invited us over for cheese, crackers and beer and an interesting, attractive lady who had just written and published a book joined us we decided to hang out. Later as fog drove in and it got chilly we headed up to the Club, viewing the solar eclipse thru the clouds, quite awesome. We checked the posted results and were surprised we took second in our division, and folks were asking where were we? By then really, really excellent modern jazz quartet was performing; together with female and male solo vocalists that were top notch. I'll have to be sure to make it to more of these Sunday evening BBQ concerts! They also are open to the public. Jerry From: Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) <ma… [at] cox.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing  Number 1 know your boat and its upwind sweet spot or groove. Get a martec racing prop. You can win races with crappy sails if properly sized and adjusted for the conditions. We have done it for many years. You will increase the amount of winnings with newer sails that are designed and functioning properly. There are many adjustments that will tweak the cal 29 that have been already mentioned. But to reiterate less jib halyard tension will give a better lift until the wind increases to where you need to spill out some power. But you also need some of that power to pull you through the white caps. So you have to find the balance between lift, staying powered up and weather helm. We always found that if the destination was DDW we stayed as close as possible to DDW. Any of you racing this Sunday out of MDR City of Hope Regatta? I will be on one of the Catalina 42's. Hope to see some of you out there. Mark Cal 2-29 San Pedro >From: pw… [at] aol.com >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 6:54 PM >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing > > >Start with a good, clean smooth bottom, then buy new sails and a feathering or folding prop. You can know all the tricks, have the best crew but w/o giving your boat the tools to work with there is only so much you can do. The rest is learning your boat. I've been told it takes about 5 years to really learn a new boat and so far that's proven to be true for me at least. >Paul >-----Original Message----- >From: Joseph McCloskey <jj… [at] yahoo.com> >To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Fri, May 18, 2012 9:36 pm >Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing > > > >Hi > > >Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! >I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated > > >Thanks >Joe > > > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7149 (20120518) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7149 (20120518) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Jerry, I was on the 42 ...dolphin something or other, I am so tired..... felt like I was on a floating condo....:) We did however take a third out of nine. In any event It was a nice time out there. I might have spotted you for a second. Were you in a Lapworth 24? But I did here your name at the yacht club called out for a trophy..way to go!!!I I didn't see any 29's but did see a Cal 34 with a spin. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Sobel To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 8:36 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] City of Hope Regatta (Mark) Mark, Which Catalina where U on? Our local Cat 42 Celerity took first. After saying I'd do the race I felt I couldn't back out even tho, getting up early makes me feel like [a] carp out of water. We flubbed the start by mis-gauging the time it takes to reverse course twice and hit the start...I missed having my analogue watch; nothing beats having a graphic representation of time. But we fought to keep the fleet in sight and as the wind built up in the afternoon my Cal was really picking up 'steam'. We saw consistent + or -7 knots broad reaching back from the Santa Monica pier, and got some good aerodymaic lift out of the poled out genny coming down the main channel, and we picked off the last place Catalina 42 as we rounded the bend passing fisherman's village. But we didn't think we'd done that well, overall. So when one dock make offered us Brandy, and another invited us over for cheese, crackers and beer and an interesting, attractive lady who had just written and published a book joined us we decided to hang out. Later as fog drove in and it got chilly we headed up to the Club, viewing the solar eclipse thru the clouds, quite awesome. We checked the posted results and were surprised we took second in our division, and folks were asking where were we? By then really, really excellent modern jazz quartet was performing; together with female and male solo vocalists that were top notch. I'll have to be sure to make it to more of these Sunday evening BBQ concerts! They also are open to the public. Jerry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) <ma… [at] cox.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing  Number 1 know your boat and its upwind sweet spot or groove. Get a martec racing prop. You can win races with crappy sails if properly sized and adjusted for the conditions. We have done it for many years. You will increase the amount of winnings with newer sails that are designed and functioning properly. There are many adjustments that will tweak the cal 29 that have been already mentioned. But to reiterate less jib halyard tension will give a better lift until the wind increases to where you need to spill out some power. But you also need some of that power to pull you through the white caps. So you have to find the balance between lift, staying powered up and weather helm. We always found that if the destination was DDW we stayed as close as possible to DDW. Any of you racing this Sunday out of MDR City of Hope Regatta? I will be on one of the Catalina 42's. Hope to see some of you out there. Mark Cal 2-29 San Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: pw… [at] aol.com To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Start with a good, clean smooth bottom, then buy new sails and a feathering or folding prop. You can know all the tricks, have the best crew but w/o giving your boat the tools to work with there is only so much you can do. The rest is learning your boat. I've been told it takes about 5 years to really learn a new boat and so far that's proven to be true for me at least. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Joseph McCloskey <jj… [at] yahoo.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, May 18, 2012 9:36 pm Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Hi Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated Thanks Joe __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7149 (20120518) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7149 (20120518) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7153 (20120520) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7153 (20120520) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Mark, Dancing Dolphin, I saw her out there. I was a spectacular day, especially after I finally showed up at the yacht club and found I'd gotten one of those big heavy plexiglass thingies! Seriously, nice moderate wind, piping up into the teens for some white caps by mid afternoon, and enuff cloud cover that you could glance at the eclipse tho then I'd forgotten my shades. I'd sure it pleased my Uncle Sam and Aunt Mamie watching from above those clouds (makes for nice imagery) who were City of Hope supporters back in the sixties. That, excuse me..Cal 24 was mine. Gosh, I'd better clean her up and reglue those tattered insignia on the sail, before they tear completely off or fade to the point they look like a coal smudge. From a distance the Cal 24 and Lapworth 24 look similar, the latter have more freeboard and a taller, more narrow cabin and beam. The Cal 34 is Yassoo, expertly skippered by Joe Cowan, who formerly owned a Cal 36 in the Northwest, and had (still has part ownership) of one of the hottest Columbia 24 Challengers to sail the ocean, certainly when he has his hands on the tiller. Joe is Yassoo's second owner, and it was a regular race winner by its first owners, Jim and Emily Vassillion. Jim and Emily originally owned a Cal 24, and Yassoo was one of the first Cal 34's. You got to see Joe's brand new green and yellow spinnaker, which goes nicely with the green hull stripe. Jerry From: Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) <ma… [at] cox.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] City of Hope Regatta (Mark)  Jerry, I was on the 42 ...dolphin something or other, I am so tired..... felt like I was on a floating condo....:) We did however take a third out of nine. In any event It was a nice time out there. I might have spotted you for a second. Were you in a Lapworth 24? But I did here your name at the yacht club called out for a trophy..way to go!!!I I didn't see any 29's but did see a Cal 34 with a spin. Mark >From: Gerald Sobel >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 8:36 PM >Subject: [Cal_Boats] City of Hope Regatta (Mark) > > >Mark, >Which Catalina where U on? Our local Cat 42 Celerity took first. After saying I'd do the race I felt I couldn't back out even tho, getting up early makes me feel like [a] carp out of water. We flubbed the start by mis-gauging the time it takes to reverse course twice and hit the start...I missed having my analogue watch; nothing beats having a graphic representation of time. But we fought to keep the fleet in sight and as the wind built up in the afternoon my Cal was really picking up 'steam'. We saw consistent + or -7 knots broad reaching back from the Santa Monica pier, and got some good aerodymaic lift out of the poled out genny coming down the main channel, and we picked off the last place Catalina 42as we rounded the bend passing fisherman's village. > > > >But we didn't think we'd done that well, overall. So when one dock make offered us Brandy, and another invited us over for cheese, crackers and beer and an interesting, attractive lady who had just written and published a book joined us we decided to hang out. Later as fog drove in and it got chilly we headed up to the Club, viewing the solar eclipse thru the clouds, quite awesome. We checked the posted results and were surprised we took second in our division, and folks were asking where were we? > > > >By then really, really excellent modern jazz quartet was performing; together with female and male solo vocalists that were top notch. I'll have to be sure to make it to more of these Sunday evening BBQ concerts! They also are open to the public. >Jerry > > > >________________________________ > From: Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) <ma… [at] cox.net> >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 9:44 PM >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing > > > > >Number 1 know your boat and its upwind sweet spot or groove. Get a martec racing prop. You can win races with crappy sails if properly sized and adjusted for the conditions. We have done it for many years. You will increase the amount of winnings with newer sails that are designed and functioning properly. There are many adjustments that will tweak the cal 29 that have been already mentioned. But to reiterate less jib halyard tension will give a better lift until the wind increases to where you need to spill out some power. But you also need some of that power to pull you through the white caps. So you have to find the balance between lift, staying powered up and weather helm. We always found that if the destination was DDW we stayed as close as possible to DDW. > >Any of you racing this Sunday out of MDR City of Hope Regatta? I will be on one of the Catalina 42's. Hope to see some of you out there. > >Mark >Cal 2-29 >San Pedro > >----- Original Message ----- >>From: pw… [at] aol.com >>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 6:54 PM >>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing >> >> >>Start with a good, clean smooth bottom, then buy new sails and a feathering or folding prop. You can know all the tricks, have the best crew but w/o giving your boat the tools to work with there is only so much you can do. The rest is learning your boat. I've been told it takes about 5 years to really learn a new boat and so far that's proven to be true for me at least. >>Paul >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Joseph McCloskey <jj… [at] yahoo.com> >>To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >>Sent: Fri, May 18, 2012 9:36 pm >>Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing >> >> >> >>Hi >> >> >>Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! >>I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated >> >> >>Thanks >>Joe >> >> >> >> >>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7149 (20120518) __________ >> >>The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >>http://www.eset.com >> > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7149 (20120518) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com > > > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7153 (20120520) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7153 (20120520) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

1st clean bottom.. 2nd get a good start 3 do not let any boats pass you 4th pass all boats in front you 5 go to club pick up Prize...We raced "NOAH'S Kid" Cal 29 (1974) eight years won one race (thanks Scott C.) the J boats speed up quicker where the 29 SLOWLY build up speed 1 in or 2 in in sheets adj at atime watch VMG ..have crew be quite and move CAT-LIKE trim 4 Speed 8 knots away is still better than 3 knots towards ....after all boats pass you now switch from RACER to CRUISER....edward From: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sun, May 20, 2012 8:47:27 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing From: Joseph McCloskey <jj… [at] yahoo.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 6:35 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Hi Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated Thanks Joe

Am I the Scott C you are referring to? I seem to be just starting to figure out the groove for my Cal 29. I mostly single hand it. Racing has been a challenge, not the boat just me learning. It is very true trying to point too high really slows down the boat. As much as it is frustrating seeing others point higher to the mark than me. I fight the temptation to point higher with them and keep my windex on the paddle where I set it after testing how high I can point and keep a good speed. Seems to be working so far. I have a first and second in my division of Single Handed Sailing. Scott Cyphers 74 Cal29 Hatikvah --- On Mon, 5/21/12, Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 21, 2012, 10:42 AM 1st clean bottom.. 2nd get a good start 3 do not let any boats pass you 4th pass all boats in front you 5 go to club pick up Prize...We raced "NOAH'S Kid" Cal 29 (1974) eight years won one race (thanks Scott C.) the J boats speed up quicker where the 29 SLOWLY build up speed 1 in or 2 in in sheets adj at atime watch VMG ..have crew be quite and move CAT-LIKE trim 4 Speed 8 knots away is still better than 3 knots towards ....after all boats pass you now switch from RACER to CRUISER....edward From: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sun, May 20, 2012 8:47:27 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing From: Joseph McCloskey <jj… [at] yahoo.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 6:35 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Hi Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated Thanks Joe

I was given some good advice from an x-America's Cup sailor that I thought would be good to share given where this thread has gone. Get ahead and cover. Allen On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:39 PM, scott cyphers <sc… [at] sbcglobal.net>wrote: > ** > > > Am I the Scott C you are referring to? > > I seem to be just starting to figure out the groove for my Cal 29. I > mostly single hand it. Racing has been a challenge, not the boat just me > learning. It is very true trying to point too high really slows down the > boat. As much as it is frustrating seeing others point higher to the mark > than me. I fight the temptation to point higher with them and keep my > windex on the paddle where I set it after testing how high I can point and > keep a good speed. Seems to be working so far. I have a first and second in > my division of Single Handed Sailing. > > Scott Cyphers > 74 Cal29 > Hatikvah > > --- On *Mon, 5/21/12, Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net>* wrote: > > > From: Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, May 21, 2012, 10:42 AM > > > > 1st clean bottom.. 2nd get a good start 3 do not let any boats pass you > 4th pass all boats in front you 5 go to club pick up Prize...We raced > "NOAH'S Kid" Cal 29 (1974) eight years won one race (thanks Scott C.) > the J boats speed up quicker where the 29 SLOWLY build up speed 1 in or 2 > in in sheets adj at atime > watch VMG ..have crew be quite and move CAT-LIKE trim 4 Speed 8 knots > away is still better than 3 knots > towards ....after all boats pass you now switch from RACER to > CRUISER....edward > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> > *To:* "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Sun, May 20, 2012 8:47:27 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Joseph McCloskey <jj… [at] yahoo.com> > *To:* "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Friday, May 18, 2012 6:35 PM > *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing > > > Hi > > Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! > I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now > attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good > start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old > girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated > > Thanks > Joe > > > > >

Yes ..the only 1ST "Noah's Kid" is when you sold us your jib and showed us how to WIN !! ed&helen From: scott cyphers <sc… [at] sbcglobal.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, May 21, 2012 12:39:48 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Am I the Scott C you are referring to? I seem to be just starting to figure out the groove for my Cal 29. I mostly single hand it. Racing has been a challenge, not the boat just me learning. It is very true trying to point too high really slows down the boat. As much as it is frustrating seeing others point higher to the mark than me. I fight the temptation to point higher with them and keep my windex on the paddle where I set it after testing how high I can point and keep a good speed. Seems to be working so far. I have a first and second in my division of Single Handed Sailing. Scott Cyphers 74 Cal29 Hatikvah --- On Mon, 5/21/12, Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: >From: Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Date: Monday, May 21, 2012, 10:42 AM > > > >1st clean bottom.. 2nd get a good start 3 do not let any boats pass you 4th pass >all boats in front you 5 go to club pick up Prize...We raced "NOAH'S Kid" Cal 29 >(1974) eight years won one race (thanks Scott C.) >the J boats speed up quicker where the 29 SLOWLY build up speed 1 in or 2 in in >sheets adj at atime > >watch VMG ..have crew be quite and move CAT-LIKE trim 4 Speed 8 knots away is >still better than 3 knots >towards ....after all boats pass you now switch from RACER to CRUISER....edward > > > > > > From: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> >To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Sun, May 20, 2012 8:47:27 AM >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing > > > > > From: Joseph McCloskey <jj… [at] yahoo.com> >To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 6:35 PM >Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing > > > >Hi > > >Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! >I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now >attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start >and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to >speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated > > >Thanks >Joe > > > > >

I think the questions is how does one get ahead when the other phrf boat out points. The simple answer is do not try to keep up with his pointing you can however beat him on the next tack if you drive below. Be careful here. Do not give away too much leeward space. Just a couple degrees below him, slack your sails accordingly, you are now going faster than him instead of being in a continuous stall trying to out point him is a fruitless effort and keeping in his wind shadow is also counter productive. As you race out in into clear air just below him you now have the boat speed to start INCHING up with the lifts.Keep sailing fast most important and you will be getting out in front of him and hopefully your on a port tack, because on your next tack. You may be surprised and cross his bow. This works very well between Cal 29 vs J29 or Erickson 32 etc. This also works against same boats. Yesterdays MDR race we had a novice crew and it was my first time with the boat and Capt. He kept trying to point in the bad air of the lead boat, because of where the mark was instead of tacking we simply drove under and then came up out in front and the rest of the race we pulled away more than ten boat lengths. Hope this helps. Mark Cal 2-29 (always wishing to point higher) San Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Allen Edwards To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing I was given some good advice from an x-America's Cup sailor that I thought would be good to share given where this thread has gone. Get ahead and cover. Allen On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:39 PM, scott cyphers <sc… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: Am I the Scott C you are referring to? I seem to be just starting to figure out the groove for my Cal 29. I mostly single hand it. Racing has been a challenge, not the boat just me learning. It is very true trying to point too high really slows down the boat. As much as it is frustrating seeing others point higher to the mark than me. I fight the temptation to point higher with them and keep my windex on the paddle where I set it after testing how high I can point and keep a good speed. Seems to be working so far. I have a first and second in my division of Single Handed Sailing. Scott Cyphers 74 Cal29 Hatikvah --- On Mon, 5/21/12, Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 21, 2012, 10:42 AM 1st clean bottom.. 2nd get a good start 3 do not let any boats pass you 4th pass all boats in front you 5 go to club pick up Prize...We raced "NOAH'S Kid" Cal 29 (1974) eight years won one race (thanks Scott C.) the J boats speed up quicker where the 29 SLOWLY build up speed 1 in or 2 in in sheets adj at atime watch VMG ..have crew be quite and move CAT-LIKE trim 4 Speed 8 knots away is still better than 3 knots towards ....after all boats pass you now switch from RACER to CRUISER....edward -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sun, May 20, 2012 8:47:27 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph McCloskey <jj… [at] yahoo.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 6:35 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Hi Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated Thanks Joe __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7155 (20120521) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7155 (20120521) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Jerry, I was a really nice day up there in MDR. I had not been sailing up there for many years. The first time was on a Cal 20 a friend bought in Channel Island Harbor and the second was on a big race boat for the MDR to SD, which turned out to be a lesson in human nature to say the least. During yesterdays race, the breeze came up early and was perfect for the race course. I am hoping to sail more on Dancing Dolphin, who today was moved to San Pedro from Ventura Harbor. The only thing wrong with the boat that I can tell is .... its not a Cal.... Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Sobel To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] City of Hope Regatta (Mark) Mark, Dancing Dolphin, I saw her out there. I was a spectacular day, especially after I finally showed up at the yacht club and found I'd gotten one of those big heavy plexiglass thingies! Seriously, nice moderate wind, piping up into the teens for some white caps by mid afternoon, and enuff cloud cover that you could glance at the eclipse tho then I'd forgotten my shades. I'd sure it pleased my Uncle Sam and Aunt Mamie watching from above those clouds (makes for nice imagery) who were City of Hope supporters back in the sixties. That, excuse me..Cal 24 was mine. Gosh, I'd better clean her up and reglue those tattered insignia on the sail, before they tear completely off or fade to the point they look like a coal smudge. From a distance the Cal 24 and Lapworth 24 look similar, the latter have more freeboard and a taller, more narrow cabin and beam. The Cal 34 is Yassoo, expertly skippered by Joe Cowan, who formerly owned a Cal 36 in the Northwest, and had (still has part ownership) of one of the hottest Columbia 24 Challengers to sail the ocean, certainly when he has his hands on the tiller. Joe is Yassoo's second owner, and it was a regular race winner by its first owners, Jim and Emily Vassillion. Jim and Emily originally owned a Cal 24, and Yassoo was one of the first Cal 34's. You got to see Joe's brand new green and yellow spinnaker, which goes nicely with the green hull stripe. Jerry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) <ma… [at] cox.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] City of Hope Regatta (Mark)  Jerry, I was on the 42 ...dolphin something or other, I am so tired..... felt like I was on a floating condo....:) We did however take a third out of nine. In any event It was a nice time out there. I might have spotted you for a second. Were you in a Lapworth 24? But I did here your name at the yacht club called out for a trophy..way to go!!!I I didn't see any 29's but did see a Cal 34 with a spin. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Sobel To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 8:36 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] City of Hope Regatta (Mark) Mark, Which Catalina where U on? Our local Cat 42 Celerity took first. After saying I'd do the race I felt I couldn't back out even tho, getting up early makes me feel like [a] carp out of water. We flubbed the start by mis-gauging the time it takes to reverse course twice and hit the start...I missed having my analogue watch; nothing beats having a graphic representation of time. But we fought to keep the fleet in sight and as the wind built up in the afternoon my Cal was really picking up 'steam'. We saw consistent + or -7 knots broad reaching back from the Santa Monica pier, and got some good aerodymaic lift out of the poled out genny coming down the main channel, and we picked off the last place Catalina 42 as we rounded the bend passing fisherman's village. But we didn't think we'd done that well, overall. So when one dock make offered us Brandy, and another invited us over for cheese, crackers and beer and an interesting, attractive lady who had just written and published a book joined us we decided to hang out. Later as fog drove in and it got chilly we headed up to the Club, viewing the solar eclipse thru the clouds, quite awesome. We checked the posted results and were surprised we took second in our division, and folks were asking where were we? By then really, really excellent modern jazz quartet was performing; together with female and male solo vocalists that were top notch. I'll have to be sure to make it to more of these Sunday evening BBQ concerts! They also are open to the public. Jerry ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) <ma… [at] cox.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing  Number 1 know your boat and its upwind sweet spot or groove. Get a martec racing prop. You can win races with crappy sails if properly sized and adjusted for the conditions. We have done it for many years. You will increase the amount of winnings with newer sails that are designed and functioning properly. There are many adjustments that will tweak the cal 29 that have been already mentioned. But to reiterate less jib halyard tension will give a better lift until the wind increases to where you need to spill out some power. But you also need some of that power to pull you through the white caps. So you have to find the balance between lift, staying powered up and weather helm. We always found that if the destination was DDW we stayed as close as possible to DDW. Any of you racing this Sunday out of MDR City of Hope Regatta? I will be on one of the Catalina 42's. Hope to see some of you out there. Mark Cal 2-29 San Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: pw… [at] aol.com To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Start with a good, clean smooth bottom, then buy new sails and a feathering or folding prop. You can know all the tricks, have the best crew but w/o giving your boat the tools to work with there is only so much you can do. The rest is learning your boat. I've been told it takes about 5 years to really learn a new boat and so far that's proven to be true for me at least. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Joseph McCloskey <jj… [at] yahoo.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, May 18, 2012 9:36 pm Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 racing Hi Hope I can get some tips here for making my Cal 2-29 go fast ! I have raced Lightnings and J24's with some success in the past. I am now attempting to race my Cal and need some go-fast tips. I know about a good start and going the right way, but have had some trouble getting the old girl up to speed. Any advise from the group would be appreciated Thanks Joe __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7149 (20120518) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7149 (20120518) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7153 (20120520) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7153 (20120520) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7155 (20120521) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7156 (20120521) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com