Cal-36

Greets: During my morning cruise of the Internet, stumbled across a Lapworth Cal-36, this is not the L-36 nor the cruising 36, rather the 67 model that you can very briefly read about on the punta gorda pages (cal archive of original manual and sales brochures) Did a quick search on google and not too much comes up on the 36. Was wondering if anyone has any information sources on the vessel. She has a very pretty stern configuration and rather nice lines. There is a line drawing on the Richardson site but that's about it. Was wondering what this boat was all about as the lines are very classic. Best regards and thanks /ch

Chris, does it look like a CAL-40 with the butt cut off (and a double spreader rig)? Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of chris123 Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 9:30 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal-36 Greets: During my morning cruise of the Internet, stumbled across a Lapworth Cal-36, this is not the L-36 nor the cruising 36, rather the 67 model that you can very briefly read about on the punta gorda pages (cal archive of original manual and sales brochures) Did a quick search on google and not too much comes up on the 36. Was wondering if anyone has any information sources on the vessel. She has a very pretty stern configuration and rather nice lines. There is a line drawing on the Richardson site but that's about it. Was wondering what this boat was all about as the lines are very classic. Best regards and thanks /ch ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

Do you have a link you can share? On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Husar, Charlie [USA] <hu… [at] bah.com > wrote: > > > Chris, does it look like a CAL-40 with the butt cut off (and a double > spreader rig)? > > Cheers > Charlie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of > chris123 > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 9:30 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal-36 > > Greets: > > During my morning cruise of the Internet, stumbled across a Lapworth > Cal-36, this is not the L-36 nor the cruising 36, rather the 67 model that > you can very briefly read about on the punta gorda pages (cal archive of > original manual and sales brochures) Did a quick search on google and not > too much comes up on the 36. Was wondering if anyone has any information > sources on the vessel. She has a very pretty stern configuration and rather > nice lines. There is a line drawing on the Richardson site but that's about > it. Was wondering what this boat was all about as the lines are very > classic. > > Best regards and thanks > > /ch > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

http://www.richardanderson.net/TechSavvy/CAL_BOATS_files/Cal%2036%20Line%20Drawing-side%20view.pdf one of the few sources of info.

Chris, that's the one. I have a friend who owns one here in Annapolis. Like a CAL-40 shape and cabin with no stern lazarette. What info are you looking for? Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of chris123 Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 11:06 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal-36 http://www.richardanderson.net/TechSavvy/CAL_BOATS_files/Cal%2036%20Line%20Drawing-side%20view.pdf one of the few sources of info.

Chris, If you look at this site (Yahoo Groups Cal_Boats) under photos I posted an album with photos of 10 or 12 Cal 36s. Also on this site under files I posted line drawings as well as copy of owners manual and other misc stuff. Also photo album of Cal 36 Holiday. According to the Cal Models list on the site there were 106 Cal 36 built from 1965 to 1099. Mike > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: ch… [at] gmail.com > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:29:41 -0400 > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal-36 > > Greets: > > During my morning cruise of the Internet, stumbled across a Lapworth > Cal-36, this is not the L-36 nor the cruising 36, rather the 67 model > that you can very briefly read about on the punta gorda pages (cal > archive of original manual and sales brochures) Did a quick search on > google and not too much comes up on the 36. Was wondering if anyone > has any information sources on the vessel. She has a very pretty stern > configuration and rather nice lines. There is a line drawing on the > Richardson site but that's about it. Was wondering what this boat was > all about as the lines are very classic. > > Best regards and thanks > > /ch > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1

Just standard numbers for now. Nothing on sail calc. Cruiser or more racer? One thing I have learned about Cals(20 & 29 so far) is that they are very frisky boats by the nature of the design and like to be sailed standing up. Stability in a seaway without a lot of attention at least on my little 29 the few days I actually had a chance to sail her are not there strongest point. Fast...yes once she settles in. 4-7 foot swells off Cape May and your a busy boy. Being interested more in cruising rather then racing, I guess the initial question how stable of a boat is she, or is she a pure racing machine. The lines suggest that she has the potential at least of being rather stable if she is not overpowered in terms of sail choice. So just to sum it up, what is she like as a cruising machine and one that could be configured for solo sailing The 29 for example is going to take a lot of work to configure her into a solo cruising configuration as the lines and winches in relation to the helm position are all wrong in the stock config. The 2-29 and 3-29 are basically tiller boats with a wheel kicked in necessitating a crew to deal with the lines effectively. Spend a day in Chestertown sitting at the helm position of a 2-29 tiller boat that is dyeing a slow death on the hard. The layout and configuration are perfect. Everything is accessible from the helm position. To bring it all back you need to relocate or add winches, and add line control systems. Not too bad just a lot of work to get it right. Wrt to the helm, little option or too much work to replace the tiller for the binnacle. Then again sitting 8 hrs at the tiller, braced while she heels is not exactly that much fun..:) Simpler with a wheel, so its all a trade off. Some larger boats, the E-35 comes to mind have all the controls including the engine gauges all mounted so that everything can be accessible from the cockpit or crew if available. Its a nice layout but we are getting way too far away from the essential and first question, how would she be as a cruising machine. Best regards and thanks /ch

Thanks Mike, will take a look. Much appreciated. /ch

Thanks a lot...nice pictures and there are several collections. Here's what gets my immediate attention: 1. nice wide decks with placement of stays to the inside so there is lots of room to move about. 2. nice lines in the stern that clear the water well. 3. good placement of double winches and cleats in cockpit 4. integrated sea hood 5. typically gorgeous bow that rises well and cleanly out of the water 6. interesting cockpit layout. 7. interior layout is functional and could be reworked if needed, never liked center tables as they take up too much room but not a biggy. 8. double spreaders. These look to be very nice good old boats.... /ch

.....and they sail like a dream Mike To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: ch… [at] gmail.com Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:26:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal-36 (Chris) Thanks a lot...nice pictures and there are several collections. Here's what gets my immediate attention: 1. nice wide decks with placement of stays to the inside so there is lots of room to move about. 2. nice lines in the stern that clear the water well. 3. good placement of double winches and cleats in cockpit 4. integrated sea hood 5. typically gorgeous bow that rises well and cleanly out of the water 6. interesting cockpit layout. 7. interior layout is functional and could be reworked if needed, never liked center tables as they take up too much room but not a biggy. 8. double spreaders. These look to be very nice good old boats.... /ch Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1

The 2-29 is a great cruiser. The wheel eliminates the fatigue that you get at the tiller....I race and sail the 29 and 2-29. Both boats with practice and experience can be sailed single handed and safely in rough conditions. Most importantly, when single or short handed, sail conservatatively, when not racing and the afternoons are commonly 18-26, I use a reef and a 110. It can be blowing with choppy breaking seas and it is quite manageable. In this condition,with or without crew, I am happier with a wheel, I can sail for a lot longer without getting tired. ----- Original Message ----- From: chris123 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal-36 Just standard numbers for now. Nothing on sail calc. Cruiser or more racer? One thing I have learned about Cals(20 & 29 so far) is that they are very frisky boats by the nature of the design and like to be sailed standing up. Stability in a seaway without a lot of attention at least on my little 29 the few days I actually had a chance to sail her are not there strongest point. Fast...yes once she settles in. 4-7 foot swells off Cape May and your a busy boy. Being interested more in cruising rather then racing, I guess the initial question how stable of a boat is she, or is she a pure racing machine. The lines suggest that she has the potential at least of being rather stable if she is not overpowered in terms of sail choice. So just to sum it up, what is she like as a cruising machine and one that could be configured for solo sailing The 29 for example is going to take a lot of work to configure her into a solo cruising configuration as the lines and winches in relation to the helm position are all wrong in the stock config. The 2-29 and 3-29 are basically tiller boats with a wheel kicked in necessitating a crew to deal with the lines effectively. Spend a day in Chestertown sitting at the helm position of a 2-29 tiller boat that is dyeing a slow death on the hard. The layout and configuration are perfect. Everything is accessible from the helm position. To bring it all back you need to relocate or add winches, and add line control systems. Not too bad just a lot of work to get it right. Wrt to the helm, little option or too much work to replace the tiller for the binnacle. Then again sitting 8 hrs at the tiller, braced while she heels is not exactly that much fun..:) Simpler with a wheel, so its all a trade off. Some larger boats, the E-35 comes to mind have all the controls including the engine gauges all mounted so that everything can be accessible from the cockpit or crew if available. Its a nice layout but we are getting way too far away from the essential and first question, how would she be as a cruising machine. Best regards and thanks /ch __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5229 (20100625) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5229 (20100625) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

For a fin keel boat they do appear like that. Any data on capsize ratio and motion comfort? /ch

The 29 is a great boat. Im starting to learn it. One of the mods that I had to do up front was to install an autopilot system, a Raymarine x-5 system, to allow me the ability to leave the helm position in safety to deal with the sheets, sails and anchoring systems. Without that I just did not feel comfortable leaving the helm station as the main winches are approx 4' forward of the wheel. That solution worked well. The next step is to relocated the winches to within reach of the helm, which will require a SS brace of some sort as there is not much material to work with at that location. Bringing the most important control lines back to the cockpit and exactly which ones and where is still to be determined. BB came with S.Seal's stainless steel plate under the mast so it all can be done without to much effort. i just has to be thought out carefully. For example, its my desire not to have to leave the cockpit to set a reef in the main, can be done, just has to be worked out and of course costed out. The solution implies that raising and lowering the main is a requirement, an added bonus. My typical senario when cruising is to run the boat 7-10 hrs a day depending on conditions till the skill level reaches a point where I feel comfortable to do overnight passages alone. Not in the near future...but sooner then later. She's currently on the hard in NJ at Hancock Harbour Marina on the Cohansey River. One of the most out of the way lay back places, I came across. The winter was tough on her and she needs repairs. Hope to see her again this fall so it gives me a lot of time to work out a number of solutions. /ch

the first or "racing" version of the C36. some minor non-hull modifications to it created the CC36. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: ch… [at] gmail.com Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:05:57 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal-36 http://www.richardanderson.net/TechSavvy/CAL_BOATS_files/Cal%2036%20Line%20Drawing-side%20view.pdf one of the few sources of info.

the one you saw: still end boom sheeting? wheel or tiller? Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: ch… [at] gmail.com Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:53:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal-36 Just standard numbers for now. Nothing on sail calc. Cruiser or more racer? One thing I have learned about Cals(20 & 29 so far) is that they are very frisky boats by the nature of the design and like to be sailed standing up. Stability in a seaway without a lot of attention at least on my little 29 the few days I actually had a chance to sail her are not there strongest point. Fast...yes once she settles in. 4-7 foot swells off Cape May and your a busy boy. Being interested more in cruising rather then racing, I guess the initial question how stable of a boat is she, or is she a pure racing machine. The lines suggest that she has the potential at least of being rather stable if she is not overpowered in terms of sail choice. So just to sum it up, what is she like as a cruising machine and one that could be configured for solo sailing The 29 for example is going to take a lot of work to configure her into a solo cruising configuration as the lines and winches in relation to the helm position are all wrong in the stock config. The 2-29 and 3-29 are basically tiller boats with a wheel kicked in necessitating a crew to deal with the lines effectively. Spend a day in Chestertown sitting at the helm position of a 2-29 tiller boat that is dyeing a slow death on the hard. The layout and configuration are perfect. Everything is accessible from the helm position. To bring it all back you need to relocate or add winches, and add line control systems. Not too bad just a lot of work to get it right. Wrt to the helm, little option or too much work to replace the tiller for the binnacle. Then again sitting 8 hrs at the tiller, braced while she heels is not exactly that much fun..:) Simpler with a wheel, so its all a trade off. Some larger boats, the E-35 comes to mind have all the controls including the engine gauges all mounted so that everything can be accessible from the cockpit or crew if available. Its a nice layout but we are getting way too far away from the essential and first question, how would she be as a cruising machine. Best regards and thanks /ch

yes and yes. /ch

Yoops that should have read, yes end boom sheeting and yes to tiller, so yes and yes..:) -- /ch

should be pretty easy to set up for single handing. They sail nicely and ours (CC36) has handled a gale or two for us. Ours is more difficult to set up for single handing since it has a wheel and has been converted (poo design) to mid-boom sheeting. Also, the CC36 version came with the more traditinal single spreader rig with outboard shrouds. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: ch… [at] gmail.com Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:42:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal-36 Yoops that should have read, yes end boom sheeting and yes to tiller, so yes and yes..:) -- /ch

Attached: 1967 Cal 36 Price list and copies of Jensen Marine 36 brochures. Mike > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: ch… [at] gmail.com > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:29:41 -0400 > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal-36 > > Greets: > > During my morning cruise of the Internet, stumbled across a Lapworth > Cal-36, this is not the L-36 nor the cruising 36, rather the 67 model > that you can very briefly read about on the punta gorda pages (cal > archive of original manual and sales brochures) Did a quick search on > google and not too much comes up on the 36. Was wondering if anyone > has any information sources on the vessel. She has a very pretty stern > configuration and rather nice lines. There is a line drawing on the > Richardson site but that's about it. Was wondering what this boat was > all about as the lines are very classic. > > Best regards and thanks > > /ch > > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1

good stuff, Mike! To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: mi… [at] hotmail.com Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:36:19 +0000 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal-36 (Chris) [4 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Michael Robinson included below] Attached: 1967 Cal 36 Price list and copies of Jensen Marine 36 brochures. Mike > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: ch… [at] gmail.com > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:29:41 -0400 > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal-36 > > Greets: > > During my morning cruise of the Internet, stumbled across a Lapworth > Cal-36, this is not the L-36 nor the cruising 36, rather the 67 model > that you can very briefly read about on the punta gorda pages (cal > archive of original manual and sales brochures) Did a quick search on > google and not too much comes up on the 36. Was wondering if anyone > has any information sources on the vessel. She has a very pretty stern > configuration and rather nice lines. There is a line drawing on the > Richardson site but that's about it. Was wondering what this boat was > all about as the lines are very classic. > > Best regards and thanks > > /ch > > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Learn more.

Thanks so much. An interesting read, I love the line "competes in any ocean race, easily sailed by any couple"...guess even back then the marketing boys had figured out that the Admiral calls the shots on boy toys. Best regards and many thanks /ch

Absolutely the same hull, but I will attest that Reggie's CC36 is more comfy. Cruise anywhere on that baby. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 2:02 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal-36 the first or "racing" version of the C36. some minor non-hull modifications to it created the CC36. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: ch… [at] gmail.com Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:05:57 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal-36 http://www.richardanderson.net/TechSavvy/CAL_BOATS_files/Cal%2036%20Line%20Drawing-side%20view.pdf one of the few sources of info.

We have hull #60 (Fiji ) 1967 in Newport Beach. Everything you've said is the case. Would like to add that the cabin is unbelievably spacious, the comfort level is great from the salon bulkhead to to the bow. However, the design of that huge table making it very difficult for more than one couple to be comfortable on the boat is going to be changed on ours. It takes up too much space, doesn't make a decent double berth, too much trouble etc. The starboard pilot berth is tight, the slide-out under that berth and set of drawers isn't big enough to sleep on even at the dock. I'm going to alter one side or the other, perhaps with a slide out above the drawers(move them down) and adjust the pilot berth to accomodate 2 people. Tons of storage space. The water tank is under that stbd slideout and the gas tank is under the port settee. I will then make a skinny fold-out table so our settee can stay available. I don't like moveable stuff. Then I will secure the new berth with lee-cloth. I am also right now installing a second sink in the galley, moving over the faucet as it's too easy to kick on the way out. I'm removing the top drawer to accommodate the 2nd sink and horseshoeing the next drawer down to fit the drain tubes.These boats are very basic. The cockpit drain system is going under revision, there is too little way out for rainwater, let alone a big wave. I plan to exit some larger ones out the stern. Otherwise it would be wise to install a gusher pump in the cockpit. Ours has a tiller that sweeps the cockpit. On the next note, we are in need of an A4 instrument cluster for a mechanically driven tachometer for this boat.(Cal 36) Somebody must have repowered and saved their old panel? helen&ed thanks From: chris123 <ch… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 9:26:35 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal-36 (Chris) Thanks a lot...nice pictures and there are several collections. Here's what gets my immediate attention: 1. nice wide decks with placement of stays to the inside so there is lots of room to move about. 2. nice lines in the stern that clear the water well. 3. good placement of double winches and cleats in cockpit 4. integrated sea hood 5. typically gorgeous bow that rises well and cleanly out of the water 6. interesting cockpit layout. 7. interior layout is functional and could be reworked if needed, never liked center tables as they take up too much room but not a biggy. 8. double spreaders. These look to be very nice good old boats.... /ch

Greets: Was wondering....is this a 36 or a cruising 36? Best and kind regards -- /ch

Hi, Chris. That be the CAL 40 with chopped off butt and the double spreaders. It is a standard 36. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of chris123 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 1:04 AM To: CAL Subject: [External] [Cal_Boats] CAL-36 [1 Attachment] Greets: Was wondering....is this a 36 or a cruising 36? Best and kind regards -- /ch ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

I note that the propeller is captured in the keel, so it is either 1. a variant, 2. modified or the 3. Cruising model. And yes, from my knowledge both the Cal 36 and the Cal 37 were both out of the Cal 40 mould... Cal 37's being a bit more rare. *´¨) ¸.· ´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·**¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·' ( ..........-_/) [cid:image005.png@01CBF93B.85770E70] Timm Lessley From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 4:59 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [External] [Cal_Boats] CAL-36 Hi, Chris. That be the CAL 40 with chopped off butt and the double spreaders. It is a standard 36. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of chris123 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 1:04 AM To: CAL Subject: [External] [Cal_Boats] CAL-36 [1 Attachment] Greets: Was wondering....is this a 36 or a cruising 36? Best and kind regards -- /ch ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

Timm, having a hard time with the brightness and contrast in seeing the prop configuration. Cheap photo app I have, I guess. I believe the major 36C mod is the raised cabin roof and cabin floor in the middle. This results in a totally different interior. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ti… [at] ch2m.com Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 7:53 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [External] [Cal_Boats] CAL-36 I note that the propeller is captured in the keel, so it is either 1. a variant, 2. modified or the 3. Cruising model. And yes, from my knowledge both the Cal 36 and the Cal 37 were both out of the Cal 40 mould... Cal 37's being a bit more rare. *´¨) ¸.· ´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·**¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·' ( ..........-_/) [Description: cid:image005.png@01CBF93B.85770E70] Timm Lessley From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 4:59 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [External] [Cal_Boats] CAL-36 Hi, Chris. That be the CAL 40 with chopped off butt and the double spreaders. It is a standard 36. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of chris123 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 1:04 AM To: CAL Subject: [External] [Cal_Boats] CAL-36 [1 Attachment] Greets: Was wondering....is this a 36 or a cruising 36? Best and kind regards -- /ch ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

The reason I ask is that this boat keeps coming up for sale every two years. Same picture same shed behind it. Price is always the same. 8K that also has not changed in two years. The prop config is interesting, looks rather useless in that config (A-4) and if you look carefully the leading edge of the keel has been damaged. Looks like shes been run on the rocks a few times. Im sure she has been raced hard. Anyways she's located in Hudson MI which makes her a freshwater boat and about a 30 minutes drive from the nieces house. Next time I visit family I suppose I could make a diversion trip and see whats going on with this boat. Its not something that I would buy rather its interesting to inspect her as she's always up for sale. She's available if anyone is interested and can be found on craigslist under Michigan. Just for fun I took a look at a Bayfield 29 that was selling in Toronto for 8K....the price was nuts. Reason, Keel damage...and a bad repair, she was leaching rust from the repair. The encapsulated lead in a B-29 is in a steel frame so the frame was rusted. No one wanted her. So talked it over with a friend and the solution was simple. Drill three 1" holes in the bilge and hot clue in 1" PVC pipe to floor level. Then hot glue on three funnels. Leave the patch as is on the keel, and start adding a heavy weight oil till it leaches clean from the crack. Once the oil starts leaching then drill three small equidistant holes along the keel edge on that side and let her run for a few weeks. Once she runs clean, in about a few weeks, everything will be covered with oil and anything free will have precipitated out, The frame and lead will be nicely encapsulated in oil. Plug and repair the keel, like with a proper patch typical 7-8 layers and then do a proper faring and bottom job. All she needed. Then sell her for a profit. Total cost to do the work, less then 200 hundred dollars. Yard manager was an typical yard manager....chasing dollars. Cant work on site.....yada yada yada.....So the boat sold a few weeks later for 5K and was spotted going down the 401 (major highway) headed towards Kingston which is the main marine center on the Canadian side of Lake Ontario. Someone got a steel who knew what he/she was doing. For me to move the boat to another yard simply was to costly as Ive seen B-29's (typically 20-30K) now selling for around 10-15 in the Chesapeake and Quebec. Bayfield owners in Ontario are still asking premium dollars but nothing is moving. Haulers are now also asking premium dollars as nothing is moving. Hence the interest in the Cal-36. There remains a niche market for classic boats and interestingly enough steel boats which have not dropped in price at all, in fact new ventures are starting up in that realm across the pond building classic voyaging boats a Wylo2 at 35ft. With 2.5 million units for sale its currently a buyers market and I'm afraid will stay so for a long time in NA. The best thing to do in this market IMHO is to hang on to your boat and buy a trailer for her. Move her off yard storage to avoid at least that bill. Trailers are inexpensive and typically pay for them selves in 3 years of less for a boat up to 35 feet. Have not crunched the numbers on anything larger as not interested. But I'm sure its still a favourable outcome. /ch On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:53 AM, <ti… [at] ch2m.com> wrote: > > > > I note that the propeller is captured in the keel, so it is either > > > > 1. a variant, > > 2. modified or the > > 3. Cruising model. > >

Its a four hr drive for me.....so that will happen in the fall for CDN thanksgiving. She listed here; http://holland.craigslist.org/boa/3010142474.html if anyone is interested. If you are and do inspect her, it would be interesting to read about the details of your inspection. /ch