Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: PHRF Credits

Most PHRF ratings are based on the conditions your boat came from the factory with, I.E. if it came with a Groco head then to "conform" your boat has to have a Groco head. The ratings as we all know are based on a set of specifications and weight as built from the factory is one of them. Here locally, the radio talk show host DR. Laura Schellenger had her PHRF ticket suspended when it was found out she had removed the head on her boat to save weight. Being a high profile person (with the ego that comes with it) she was highly embarrassed, firing her race director (passing the blame of course) and rarely showing her face at the yacht club these days. A competitor can make trouble for someone who has a "Non-Conforming" boat. There are those who know they are cheating when they alter their boat and those who are just ignorant of that fact. I certainly mean no disrespect to anyone on this list in that statement. It is frustrating when you keep your boat in conforming conditions knowing some of your competitors are not, especially when they are beating you out on the course. Daniel Casey "AirTime" Cal 9.2R #75 Santa Barbara In a message dated 7/14/2012 4:13:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ma… [at] cox.net writes: Sounds like you may be in violation with health and safety codes by tossing human fecal material directly into the trash can. From: _Allen Edwards_ (mailto:al… [at] gmail.com) To: _C… [at] yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com) Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: PHRF Credits tmi On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:20 PM, George Barlow <_g… [at] yahoo.com_ (mailto:ge… [at] yahoo.com) > wrote: Our PHRF fleet rules require that each boat have a "head". My boat came with a brand new Groco but it hadn't been installed. We race and daysail on a lake here so we're never too far from shore facilities. I substituted in a 5 gallon paint bucket with a patent toilet seat that comes from Cabela's. I use plastic sack liners and "flush" with kitty litter. Saved the weight, still have a "head" to comply with the fleet rule. A twistie and a trip to the trash can and I'm all good for the next sail. George Barlow Cal 28 No. 155 Knackered Eagle Mountain Lake, Texas __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7299 (20120714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. _http://www.eset.com_ (http://www.eset.com/) __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7299 (20120714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. _http://www.eset.com_ (http://www.eset.com/)

FYI while its great that the Groco head can apparently go 10 yrs w/o a rebuild, when you do finally rebuild it be prepared to spend the better part of 2 days cleaning caked on sh*t out of it. I just spent a little over an hour with Comet and a scouring pad cleaning the the bottom of the bowl where, because the rubber backflow valve wasn't closing properly, water would sit constantly and grow whatever it could on the edges. Everything on the interior was caked however and required a wire brush and scouring pads to clean. Amazingly however, all the bolts that needed to come off did so easily thankfully. I ground off all the old paint and am re-painting so hopefully it looks as good as it works. Now to re-assemble . . .. Paul From: airtimeskipper <ai… [at] aol.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sun, Jul 15, 2012 1:47 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: PHRF Credits Most PHRF ratings are based on the conditions your boat came from the factory with, I.E. if it came with a Groco head then to "conform" your boat has to have a Groco head. The ratings as we all know are based on a set of specifications and weight as built from the factory is one of them. Here locally, the radio talk show host DR. Laura Schellenger had her PHRF ticket suspended when it was found out she had removed the head on her boat to save weight. Being a high profile person (with the ego that comes with it) she was highly embarrassed, firing her race director (passing the blame of course) and rarely showing her face at the yacht club these days. A competitor can make trouble for someone who has a "Non-Conforming" boat. There are those who know they are cheating when they alter their boat and those who are just ignorant of that fact. I certainly mean no disrespect to anyone on this list in that statement. It is frustrating when you keep your boat in conforming conditions knowing some of your competitors are not, especially when they are beating you out on the course. Daniel Casey "AirTime" Cal 9.2R #75 Santa Barbara In a message dated 7/14/2012 4:13:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ma… [at] cox.net writes: Sounds like you may be in violation with health and safety codes by tossing human fecal material directly into the trash can. From: Allen Edwards To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: PHRF Credits tmi On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:20 PM, George Barlow <ge… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: Our PHRF fleet rules require that each boat have a "head". My boat came with a brand new Groco but it hadn't been installed. We race and daysail on a lake here so we're never too far from shore facilities. I substituted in a 5 gallon paint bucket with a patent toilet seat that comes from Cabela's. I use plastic sack liners and "flush" with kitty litter. Saved the weight, still have a "head" to comply with the fleet rule. A twistie and a trip to the trash can and I'm all good for the next sail. George Barlow Cal 28 No. 155 Knackered Eagle Mountain Lake, Texas __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7299 (20120714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7299 (20120714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

It seems that a lot of this discussion is ignoring the word “performance” in PHRF. A very good skipper in a region can destroy the rating for a given type of boat just because that person is a very good sailor and out sails the local rating. Everybody with that boat type might get rerated., Thank goodness I race one design. Cheers, Anyway Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ai… [at] aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 1:47 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [External] Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: PHRF Credits Most PHRF ratings are based on the conditions your boat came from the factory with, I.E. if it came with a Groco head then to "conform" your boat has to have a Groco head. The ratings as we all know are based on a set of specifications and weight as built from the factory is one of them. Here locally, the radio talk show host DR. Laura Schellenger had her PHRF ticket suspended when it was found out she had removed the head on her boat to save weight. Being a high profile person (with the ego that comes with it) she was highly embarrassed, firing her race director (passing the blame of cougood skipper in a region can destroy the rating for rse) and rarely showing her face at the yacht club these days. A competitor can make trouble for someone who has a "Non-Conforming" boat. There are those who know they are cheating when they alter their boat and those who are just ignorant of that fact. I certainly mean no disrespect to anyone on this list in that statement. It is frustrating when you keep your boat in conforming conditions knowing some of your competitors are not, especially when they are beating you out on the course. Daniel Casey "AirTime" Cal 9.2R #75 Santa Barbara In a message dated 7/14/2012 4:13:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ma… [at] cox.net writes: Sounds like you may be in violation with health and safety codes by tossing human fecal material directly into the trash can. From: Allen Edwards<mailto:al… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: PHRF Credits tmi On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:20 PM, George Barlow <ge… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:ge… [at] yahoo.com>> wrote: Our PHRF fleet rules require that each boat have a "head". My boat came with a brand new Groco but it hadn't been installed. We race and daysail on a lake here so we're never too far from shore facilities. I substituted in a 5 gallon paint bucket with a patent toilet seat that comes from Cabela's. I use plastic sack liners and "flush" with kitty litter. Saved the weight, still have a "head" to comply with the fleet rule. A twistie and a trip to the trash can and I'm all good for the next sail. George Barlow Cal 28 No. 155 Knackered Eagle Mountain Lake, Texas __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7299 (20120714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com<http://www.eset.com/> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7299 (20120714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com<http://www.eset.com/>