RE: [Cal_Boats] Where do you buy used sails? (Allen) [1 Attachment]

The page I wrote has both the LP and crew above tack calculated for every sail listed. I think having that listed should make it easier for people. On vacation in Bellingham this week. Spent the day at the local marine store where I picked up some Amsteel Steel at $20 a pound. Right now looking over the Puget Sound enjoying a Sierra Nevada. Life is good. Sent from Samsung tablet"Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)" <hu… [at] bah.com> wrote:[Attachment(s) from Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) included below] Allen, I’ve dealt with Bacon’s in Annapolis, but only for sails like a storm jib. Most of my sails I buy new as racing sails (usually from North). North has stock CAL 25 designs. On racing CAL 25s the mains are Dacron, and the jibs are mylar laminate. The mains are reusable/resellable, but cruisers are not into mylar jibs. Besides, these sails do not degrade gracefully. I’ve noted that most used sails (e.g., Bacons) are dimensioned by luff, leach, and foot. I’ve done some calculations that determine the LP from those dimensions. LP could be a useful number for a particular boat. (For new folks, LP is the minimum distance from the clew to the luff – it is a perpendicular to the luff.) The LP divided by J (distance from mast to forestay tack fitting) times 100 gives the percentage of the sail. So, for example, if your boats J is 12 feet, and the LP of your sail is 15 feet, you have a 125 percent jib. I also think that the height of the clew above the deck is important for sheeting angles. See the attachment. If someone wants to buy a sail, they would like not to have to add track or blocks to handle the sail. I did some calculations using I and J for a boat, and the previous LP calculation for a sail to determine the height of the clew above the deck. Right now it is all scribbled down, but I could clean it up or put it on a spreadsheet if you are interested in using my meanderings. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of allen.p.edwards Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:08 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [External] RE: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Where do you buy used sails? Thanks! I will include them. Sent from Samsung tablet Robert Thompson <ca… [at] gmail.com> wrote: Bacon and Associates. They've always been good to me. On 9/19/12, Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks. I will look into that. > > I don't list the 34C specifically but here are large jibs for a Tartan 34. > You can adjust I and J in the data. > > http://l-36.com/sails.php?boat=Tartan+34&i=42.0&j=14.0&fs=44.3%28est%29&p=35.5&e=10.5&isp=42.0&jsp=14.0&py=+&ey=&sail=jib&lp0=150&lp1=210 > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Alfred Poor <ap… [at] verizon.net> wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> I have bought used sails directly from another boat owner, on eBay, and I >> may have bought one from Bacon. I have sold sails on eBay (had a few with >> Bacon that I took back eventually and sold on eBay).**** >> >> ** ** >> >> eBay is a huge source for sails, although the window of availability can >> be short (especially compared with the traditional brokers like Bacon). >> If >> you could come up with a way to scrape the eBay listings and include them >> in your service, I think it would be a terrific service.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> (And I’m always looking for a bargain on a drifter for our Tartan 34C: 41 >> foot hoist (J) and I’m looking for something like 200% (about a 25-28 >> foot >> foot might be about right). (No, that’s not square feet. <g>)**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Alfred Poor**** >> >> 1973 Tartan 34C #288 “Jambalaya”**** >> >> ** ** >> >> >> > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links