Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 25

Chris drill a 1/2 inch hole in the lower, aft edge of the keel. A whole can be repaired. Once the keel freezes and "bulges" its really never completely fixable. I drill a whole in rhe same spot at each haul out. Insurance against freezing Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> wrote: > >> >*AVAILABLE: CAL 25 NO. 699.* The boat is offered by our schooner group >and was a donation. > > >_Good News._ The hull looks very good and the bottom is fair and well >painted. There are no signs of stress in the garboard (keel to hull) >area. The topsides have been painted with care and left very little >chalk when I ran my fingers over it. A good washing and she'll look >presentable. There is a sturdy outboard motor bracket on the transom >and a large internal gas tank below the cockpit sole. The mast is >wrapped in a plastic tarp. The boat has stanchions and lifelines but >the stanchions are removed from the bases for storage. There are >deck-mounted turning blocks so I assume that at least some halyards are >led aft. > >_Bad News._ The deck has extensive delamination because of leaks from >the deck-mounted sheet block tracks. The interior is flooded right now >(why do people let that happen to boats?). On the bright side, the >water below looks to be of recent arrival and I'm seeing about getting >it pumped out. > >_Discussion._ I took a bunch of photos and can e-mail them. >The boat is sitting on a two-axle trailer with big tires (15" or 16" >tires, although I forgot to check) but the boat's donor wants it back or >to sell it separately. He is reported to ask $1,000 and that seems way >too much. He would allow the trailer to be used for delivery, but with >a deposit. I can get contact info if a buyer wants to negotiate with >the trailer owner for a better price. The trailer has a long tongue >extension and keel guides so launch-ramp launching and retrieval is >possible. The trailer will need a wiring harness and lights. > >There are lots of cushions below, including vinyl-covered cockpit >cushions, all stored above the current water level. There appear to be >quite a few sails way forward, although I couldn't get there because of >the flooding. There's at least one spinnaker in the water just inside >the companionway (pause to think dark thoughts about people who let >boats fill with water). There's lots of hardware and stuff like PFDs, >fenders, etc. The boat will need work on the decks and the usual TLC >cleanup that a stored boat needs. > >_Price and contact._ I'd suggest an offer that covers the scrap value >of the ballast lead in the keel, and maybe a little something for the >hardware, rigging, and sails. The organization's president suggests >$500 for the boat. The boat is in Traverse City, Michigan, in the lower >peninsula's NW corner. > >For now, contact me via e-mail. I can e-mail or post photos. > >Chris Campbell > > >

On 12/5/2012 6:51 AM, ge… [at] hotmail.com wrote: > Chris drill a 1/2 inch hole in the lower, aft edge of the keel. A whole can be repaired. Once the keel freezes and "bulges" its really never completely fixable. I drill a whole in rhe same spot at each haul out. Insurance against freezing George: Good idea. I poked around to see if there were a garboard plug and found none. How deep is the keel sump on a Cal 25? In other words, how far down do I drill? Chris Campbell > > Sent from my LG phone > > Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> wrote: > >> *AVAILABLE: CAL 25 NO. 699.* The boat is offered by our schooner group >> and was a donation. >> >> >> _Good News._ The hull looks very good and the bottom is fair and well >> painted. There are no signs of stress in the garboard (keel to hull) >> area. The topsides have been painted with care and left very little >> chalk when I ran my fingers over it. A good washing and she'll look >> presentable. There is a sturdy outboard motor bracket on the transom >> and a large internal gas tank below the cockpit sole. The mast is >> wrapped in a plastic tarp. The boat has stanchions and lifelines but >> the stanchions are removed from the bases for storage. There are >> deck-mounted turning blocks so I assume that at least some halyards are >> led aft. >> >> _Bad News._ The deck has extensive delamination because of leaks from >> the deck-mounted sheet block tracks. The interior is flooded right now >> (why do people let that happen to boats?). On the bright side, the >> water below looks to be of recent arrival and I'm seeing about getting >> it pumped out. >> >> _Discussion._ I took a bunch of photos and can e-mail them. >> The boat is sitting on a two-axle trailer with big tires (15" or 16" >> tires, although I forgot to check) but the boat's donor wants it back or >> to sell it separately. He is reported to ask $1,000 and that seems way >> too much. He would allow the trailer to be used for delivery, but with >> a deposit. I can get contact info if a buyer wants to negotiate with >> the trailer owner for a better price. The trailer has a long tongue >> extension and keel guides so launch-ramp launching and retrieval is >> possible. The trailer will need a wiring harness and lights. >> >> There are lots of cushions below, including vinyl-covered cockpit >> cushions, all stored above the current water level. There appear to be >> quite a few sails way forward, although I couldn't get there because of >> the flooding. There's at least one spinnaker in the water just inside >> the companionway (pause to think dark thoughts about people who let >> boats fill with water). There's lots of hardware and stuff like PFDs, >> fenders, etc. The boat will need work on the decks and the usual TLC >> cleanup that a stored boat needs. >> >> _Price and contact._ I'd suggest an offer that covers the scrap value >> of the ballast lead in the keel, and maybe a little something for the >> hardware, rigging, and sails. The organization's president suggests >> $500 for the boat. The boat is in Traverse City, Michigan, in the lower >> peninsula's NW corner. >> >> For now, contact me via e-mail. I can e-mail or post photos. >> >> Chris Campbell >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

I'll measure one of mine tonight and let you know.... George Macon(586) 610-0093 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: cc… [at] lsnm.org Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 09:26:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 25 On 12/5/2012 6:51 AM, ge… [at] hotmail.com wrote: > Chris drill a 1/2 inch hole in the lower, aft edge of the keel. A whole can be repaired. Once the keel freezes and "bulges" its really never completely fixable. I drill a whole in rhe same spot at each haul out. Insurance against freezing George: Good idea. I poked around to see if there were a garboard plug and found none. How deep is the keel sump on a Cal 25? In other words, how far down do I drill? Chris Campbell > > Sent from my LG phone > > Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> wrote: > >> *AVAILABLE: CAL 25 NO. 699.* The boat is offered by our schooner group >> and was a donation. >> >> >> _Good News._ The hull looks very good and the bottom is fair and well >> painted. There are no signs of stress in the garboard (keel to hull) >> area. The topsides have been painted with care and left very little >> chalk when I ran my fingers over it. A good washing and she'll look >> presentable. There is a sturdy outboard motor bracket on the transom >> and a large internal gas tank below the cockpit sole. The mast is >> wrapped in a plastic tarp. The boat has stanchions and lifelines but >> the stanchions are removed from the bases for storage. There are >> deck-mounted turning blocks so I assume that at least some halyards are >> led aft. >> >> _Bad News._ The deck has extensive delamination because of leaks from >> the deck-mounted sheet block tracks. The interior is flooded right now >> (why do people let that happen to boats?). On the bright side, the >> water below looks to be of recent arrival and I'm seeing about getting >> it pumped out. >> >> _Discussion._ I took a bunch of photos and can e-mail them. >> The boat is sitting on a two-axle trailer with big tires (15" or 16" >> tires, although I forgot to check) but the boat's donor wants it back or >> to sell it separately. He is reported to ask $1,000 and that seems way >> too much. He would allow the trailer to be used for delivery, but with >> a deposit. I can get contact info if a buyer wants to negotiate with >> the trailer owner for a better price. The trailer has a long tongue >> extension and keel guides so launch-ramp launching and retrieval is >> possible. The trailer will need a wiring harness and lights. >> >> There are lots of cushions below, including vinyl-covered cockpit >> cushions, all stored above the current water level. There appear to be >> quite a few sails way forward, although I couldn't get there because of >> the flooding. There's at least one spinnaker in the water just inside >> the companionway (pause to think dark thoughts about people who let >> boats fill with water). There's lots of hardware and stuff like PFDs, >> fenders, etc. The boat will need work on the decks and the usual TLC >> cleanup that a stored boat needs. >> >> _Price and contact._ I'd suggest an offer that covers the scrap value >> of the ballast lead in the keel, and maybe a little something for the >> hardware, rigging, and sails. The organization's president suggests >> $500 for the boat. The boat is in Traverse City, Michigan, in the lower >> peninsula's NW corner. >> >> For now, contact me via e-mail. I can e-mail or post photos. >> >> Chris Campbell >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

On 12/5/2012 9:31 AM, george macon wrote: > > > I'll measure one of mine tonight and let you know.... Thank you. We're facing a cold spell and if it looks like the temps will be below freezing for a while I'll get out and drill as soon as possible. Chris > > > > George Macon > (586) 610-0093 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: cc… [at] lsnm.org > Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 09:26:46 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 25 > > On 12/5/2012 6:51 AM, ge… [at] hotmail.com > <mailto:george_macon%40hotmail.com> wrote: > > Chris drill a 1/2 inch hole in the lower, aft edge of the keel. A > whole can be repaired. Once the keel freezes and "bulges" its really > never completely fixable. I drill a whole in rhe same spot at each > haul out. Insurance against freezing > > George: > > Good idea. I poked around to see if there were a garboard plug and > found none. How deep is the keel sump on a Cal 25? In other words, how > far down do I drill? > > Chris Campbell > > > > Sent from my LG phone > > > > Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org <mailto:ccampbell%40lsnm.org>> wrote: > > > >> *AVAILABLE: CAL 25 NO. 699.* The boat is offered by our schooner group > >> and was a donation. > >> > >> > >> _Good News._ The hull looks very good and the bottom is fair and well > >> painted. There are no signs of stress in the garboard (keel to hull) > >> area. The topsides have been painted with care and left very little > >> chalk when I ran my fingers over it. A good washing and she'll look > >> presentable. There is a sturdy outboard motor bracket on the transom > >> and a large internal gas tank below the cockpit sole. The mast is > >> wrapped in a plastic tarp. The boat has stanchions and lifelines but > >> the stanchions are removed from the bases for storage. There are > >> deck-mounted turning blocks so I assume that at least some halyards are > >> led aft. > >> > >> _Bad News._ The deck has extensive delamination because of leaks from > >> the deck-mounted sheet block tracks. The interior is flooded right now > >> (why do people let that happen to boats?). On the bright side, the > >> water below looks to be of recent arrival and I'm seeing about getting > >> it pumped out. > >> > >> _Discussion._ I took a bunch of photos and can e-mail them. > >> The boat is sitting on a two-axle trailer with big tires (15" or 16" > >> tires, although I forgot to check) but the boat's donor wants it > back or > >> to sell it separately. He is reported to ask $1,000 and that seems way > >> too much. He would allow the trailer to be used for delivery, but with > >> a deposit. I can get contact info if a buyer wants to negotiate with > >> the trailer owner for a better price. The trailer has a long tongue > >> extension and keel guides so launch-ramp launching and retrieval is > >> possible. The trailer will need a wiring harness and lights. > >> > >> There are lots of cushions below, including vinyl-covered cockpit > >> cushions, all stored above the current water level. There appear to be > >> quite a few sails way forward, although I couldn't get there because of > >> the flooding. There's at least one spinnaker in the water just inside > >> the companionway (pause to think dark thoughts about people who let > >> boats fill with water). There's lots of hardware and stuff like PFDs, > >> fenders, etc. The boat will need work on the decks and the usual TLC > >> cleanup that a stored boat needs. > >> > >> _Price and contact._ I'd suggest an offer that covers the scrap value > >> of the ballast lead in the keel, and maybe a little something for the > >> hardware, rigging, and sails. The organization's president suggests > >> $500 for the boat. The boat is in Traverse City, Michigan, in the lower > >> peninsula's NW corner. > >> > >> For now, contact me via e-mail. I can e-mail or post photos. > >> > >> Chris Campbell > >> > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > >