Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 27 poptop suggestions for refit (John)

Hi, John. I looked up the Beaver Lake Sail Club, and Lo and Behold, a CAL 25 right in the middle of the photo on the web. Looks like you have numerous grounding opportunities on the lake. The reason I asked your location was that I know an outfit in Massachusetts that has the gunnel rubber - Rudy Nickerson at D&R Marine. D & R Marine 14 Water St Assonet, Ma 02702 Ph 508 644-3001 Fx 508 644-3002 Been buying rub rails for CAL 25s there for many years. The stuff they have does not chalk up. Install on a warm day. Might also want some screws through the deck-hull lip (bottom to top) around the bow area. Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Thorn Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:13 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [External] Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 27 poptop suggestions for refit Chris, Thanks for the encouragement. Jon is my son, we bought the boat in October and hauled it out Dec 1. We have it in my workplace heated shop. Your reply is exactly how we feel. By the way our boat is hull #7, I haven't seen a lower number on the site. My main concern is the compression post. It appears that a previous owner has tighten the s*** out of the shrouds. The area that the post sits on next to the sink is depressed about ¼ inch. It doesn't look like the support under the cabinet goes all the way to the keel. Any suggestions would be appreciated. The boat is located at the Beaver Lake Sail Club on Beaver Lake, Northwest Arkansas. John R Thorn NuDawn Inc 479.263.6448 Cell jt… [at] nudawninc.com

Charlie, You are correct, I will go look at that the next time I am at the club. You are correct about grounding opportunities, however I actually walked across the lake in 1967 before it was filled. I know most all shallow spots or at least where not to go. BLSC is fairly close to the dam and water depth in the main channel is 250'+- deep. I have been told if you can sail on Beaver you can sail anywhere. You guys are great in your advice, expertise, and knowledge. My son and I are excited about getting our boat back in the water. John R Thorn NuDawn Inc 479.263.6448 Cell jt… [at] nudawninc.com

I also purchased a rub rail from D&R while a "well-mate" bought one from Seals Spars. The two offer different materials with different characteristics. I noticed the one from seals is getting chalky after a few years, while mine may have slightly yellowed. I prefer the non-chalky rail. George MaconDetroit Fleet To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: hu… [at] bah.com Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:48:07 +0000 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 27 poptop suggestions for refit (John) Hi, John. I looked up the Beaver Lake Sail Club, and Lo and Behold, a CAL 25 right in the middle of the photo on the web. Looks like you have numerous grounding opportunities on the lake. The reason I asked your location was that I know an outfit in Massachusetts that has the gunnel rubber – Rudy Nickerson at D&R Marine. D & R Marine 14 Water St Assonet, Ma 02702 Ph 508 644-3001 Fx 508 644-3002 Been buying rub rails for CAL 25s there for many years. The stuff they have does not chalk up. Install on a warm day. Might also want some screws through the deck-hull lip (bottom to top) around the bow area. Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Thorn Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:13 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [External] Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 27 poptop suggestions for refit Chris, Thanks for the encouragement. Jon is my son, we bought the boat in October and hauled it out Dec 1. We have it in my workplace heated shop. Your reply is exactly how we feel. By the way our boat is hull #7, I haven’t seen a lower number on the site. My main concern is the compression post. It appears that a previous owner has tighten the s*** out of the shrouds. The area that the post sits on next to the sink is depressed about ¼ inch. It doesn’t look like the support under the cabinet goes all the way to the keel. Any suggestions would be appreciated. The boat is located at the Beaver Lake Sail Club on Beaver Lake, Northwest Arkansas. John R Thorn NuDawn Inc 479.263.6448 Cell jt… [at] nudawninc.com

George, I bought mine from D&R also, maybe(?) 8 years ago, no chalk, but it was a bear to install! The other thing is that our boats are out of the sun in the off-season, so maybe that has something to do with it. David Dobbs CAL29 411, Chicago From: george macon <ge… [at] hotmail.com> To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:16 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 27 poptop suggestions for refit (John) I also purchased a rub rail from D&R while a "well-mate" bought one from Seals Spars. The two offer different materials with different characteristics. I noticed the one from seals is getting chalky after a few years, while mine may have slightly yellowed. I prefer the non-chalky rail. George Macon Detroit Fleet To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: hu… [at] bah.com Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:48:07 +0000 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 27 poptop suggestions for refit (John) Hi, John. I looked up the Beaver Lake Sail Club, and Lo and Behold, a CAL 25 right in the middle of the photo on the web. Looks like you have numerous grounding opportunities on the lake. The reason I asked your location was that I know an outfit in Massachusetts that has the gunnel rubber – Rudy Nickerson at D&R Marine. D & R Marine 14 Water St Assonet, Ma 02702 Ph 508 644-3001 Fx 508 644-3002 Been buying rub rails for CAL 25s there for many years. The stuff they have does not chalk up. Install on a warm day. Might also want some screws through the deck-hull lip (bottom to top) around the bow area. Cheers Charlie Annapolis From:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Thorn Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:13 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [External] Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 27 poptop suggestions for refit Chris, Thanks for the encouragement. Jon is my son, we bought the boat in October and hauled it out Dec 1. We have it in my workplace heated shop. Your reply is exactly how we feel. By the way our boat is hull #7, I haven’t seen a lower number on the site. My main concern is the compression post. It appears that a previous owner has tighten the s*** out of the shrouds. The area that the post sits on next to the sink is depressed about ¼ inch. It doesn’t look like the support under the cabinet goes all the way to the keel. Any suggestions would be appreciated. The boat is located at the Beaver Lake Sail Club on Beaver Lake, Northwest Arkansas. John R Thorn NuDawn Inc 479.263.6448 Cell jt… [at] nudawninc.com

On 1/3/2013 1:48 PM, Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) wrote: > > The reason I asked your location was that I know an outfit in > Massachusetts that has the gunnel rubber -- Rudy Nickerson at D&R Marine. > > *D & R Marine* > 14 Water St > Assonet, Ma > 02702 > > Ph 508 644-3001 > > Fx 508 644-3002 > > Been buying rub rails for CAL 25s there for many years. The stuff > they have does not chalk up. > Hey, Charlie, is this the same stuff they used for rubrail on the Cal 20? I got tired of getting white stuff all over me from my chalking rubrail and painted it with a vinyl lobster buoy paint from Hamilton Marine. Cleaned it up first with solvents and light sanding. The stuff doesn't level well so it's not glossy but it passes a 15-foot test. Tenacity or adhesion isn't total, and if the rub rail rubs too hard the stuff will peel, but it kept the white chalk off me all summer. I'll repair damaged areas in the spring. But at some point it might be wise to replace the old original rubrail. Chris Campbell