Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39-2 Hull to Deck

Brian (?) Are you sure it is your hull to deck joint? I ask because I also have a 1980 Cal 39 and I discovered there were no nuts on the stanchion on the port side just aft of the aft bulkhead for the head. It had leaked so long that it had rotted out the bottom of the cabinet behind the settee. The water and waste water deck fills were both leaking as well. Long story short, re-bed everything on your deck before messing with the hull to deck joint. I have not done all the stanchions yet but intend to. Hell, I still haven't re-mounted my handrails yet. Where are you located? We sail out of Cambridge, Md. Paul West Adventure Kwest In a message dated 2/1/2013 2:14:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, br… [at] gmail.com writes: Hey all, First time poster on this group, and it's great to see all those Cals out there. I just picked up my new home and cruiser, Diana B, a 1980 Cal 39 mk II and am starting to assemble my major project list. For now, the big one is my leaky hull to deck joints. I am going to re-bed all the stancions for now to see what that helps, but I do know I'll have to re-bed or glass over the hull to deck in the next few dry seasons. Has anyone on here addressed a leaky hull to deck joint? Would it be feasible to pull the toe rail off and clean out the joint and re-bed it? Would it be better to glass over the entire outer joint from the outside, fair it then re-install the toe rail? Any help is appreciated. Fair Winds!

Brian - This post reminded me that my boat had a few customizations, one of them being an aluminum toe rail. The others were all opening ports and an in between draft of 6' as opposed to 6'-8" (?) or 5'-6". Paul In a message dated 2/1/2013 3:05:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, no… [at] yahoo.com writes: There is a link to a Pearson 40 owners group that does a good write-up on replacing the toe-rail with an aluminum unit. _http://pearson40.net/toerail%20refit.htm_ (http://pearson40.net/toerail%20refit.htm) This is the plan my wife and I will take with our Cal39 hopefully this summer. Congrats on your new Cal! Greg From: sailtheboondocks <br… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 11:14 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39-2 Hull to Deck <WBR Hey all, First time poster on this group, and it's great to see all those Cals out there. I just picked up my new home and cruiser, Diana B, a 1980 Cal 39 mk II and am starting to assemble my major project list. For now, the big one is my leaky hull to deck joints. I am going to re-bed all the stancions for now to see what that helps, but I do know I'll have to re-bed or glass over the hull to deck in the next few dry seasons. Has anyone on here addressed a leaky hull to deck joint? Would it be feasible to pull the toe rail off and clean out the joint and re-bed it? Would it be better to glass over the entire outer joint from the outside, fair it then re-install the toe rail? Any help is appreciated. Fair Winds!

Paul, Ours has the wood toe rail and it is a source of many leaks around the interior edges. Between that and the stanchions the boat gets more water from the rain than from the ocean. Greg From: "pw… [at] aol.com" <pw… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39-2 Hull to Deck Brian - This post reminded me that my boat had a few customizations, one of them being an aluminum toe rail. The others were all opening ports and an in between draft of 6' as opposed to 6'-8" (?) or 5'-6". Paul In a message dated 2/1/2013 3:05:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, no… [at] yahoo.com writes: >There is a link to a Pearson 40 owners group that does a good write-up on replacing the toe-rail with an aluminum unit. > >http://pearson40.net/toerail%20refit.htm > >This is the plan my wife and I will take with our Cal39 hopefully this summer. > >Congrats on your new Cal! > >Greg > > > >________________________________ >From: sailtheboondocks <br… [at] gmail.com> >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 11:14 AM >Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39-2 Hull to Deck > > >Hey all, First time poster on this group, and it's great to see all those Cals out there. I just picked up my new home and cruiser, Diana B, a 1980 Cal 39 mk II and am starting to assemble my major project list. For now, the big one is my leaky hull to deck joints. I am going to re-bed all the stancions for now to see what that helps, but I do know I'll have to re-bed or glass over the hull to deck in the next few dry seasons. Has anyone on here addressed a leaky hull to deck joint? Would it be feasible to pull the toe rail off and clean out the joint and re-bed it? Would it be better to glass over the entire outer joint from the outside, fair it then re-install the toe rail?Any help is appreciated. Fair Winds!

Had the same problem with my cal 30. The toe rails were decayed past repair and replacing with teak was too expensive . I replaced them with the perferated aluminum toe rail beded in 5200. I used a toe rail that over laped the deck hull joint and that had stanchan bases that fit over the rail and bolted to the deck and toe rail. It put the stanchens out further on the deck edg and gave me more room to move forwerd. No leeks since, in the deck joint, toe rail or stanchens, and best of all no varnishing. I know, not origanal. Dan R On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Greg vanDalen <no… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > Paul, > > Ours has the wood toe rail and it is a source of many leaks around the > interior edges. Between that and the stanchions the boat gets more water > from the rain than from the ocean. > > Greg > > *From:* "pw… [at] aol.com" <pw… [at] aol.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Friday, February 1, 2013 12:19 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39-2 Hull to Deck > ** > > Brian - > > This post reminded me that my boat had a few customizations, one of them > being an aluminum toe rail. The others were all opening ports and an in > between draft of 6' as opposed to 6'-8" (?) or 5'-6". > > Paul > > In a message dated 2/1/2013 3:05:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > no… [at] yahoo.com writes: > > > There is a link to a Pearson 40 owners group that does a good write-up > on replacing the toe-rail with an aluminum unit. > > http://pearson40.net/toerail%20refit.htm > > This is the plan my wife and I will take with our Cal39 hopefully this > summer. > > Congrats on your new Cal! > > Greg > > *From:* sailtheboondocks <br… [at] gmail.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Friday, February 1, 2013 11:14 AM > *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] Cal 39-2 Hull to Deck > > Hey all, **First time poster on this group, and it's great to see all > those Cals out there. I just picked up my new home and cruiser, Diana B, a > 1980 Cal 39 mk II and am starting to assemble my major project list. For > now, the big one is my leaky hull to deck joints. I am going to re-bed all > the stancions for now to see what that helps, but I do know I'll have to > re-bed or glass over the hull to deck in the next few dry seasons. ****Has > anyone on here addressed a leaky hull to deck joint? Would it be feasible > to pull the toe rail off and clean out the joint and re-bed it? Would it be > better to glass over the entire outer joint from the outside, fair it then > re-install the toe rail?****Any help is appreciated. **Fair Winds!**** > > **** > > >

I removed my aluminum toe rail, cleaned it up, reinstalled it using 4200. No More leaks. As stated by others, re-bed everything. 5200 is usually not recommended for re-bedding most items. It sure is nice having a dry boat for a change. Dan C In a message dated 2/1/2013 9:51:12 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, da… [at] gmail.com writes: Had the same problem with my cal 30. The toe rails were decayed past repair and replacing with teak was too expensive . I replaced them with the perferated aluminum toe rail beded in 5200. I used a toe rail that over laped the deck hull joint and that had stanchan bases that fit over the rail and bolted to the deck and toe rail. It put the stanchens out further on the deck edg and gave me more room to move forwerd. No leeks since, in the deck joint, toe rail or stanchens, and best of all no varnishing. I know, not origanal. Dan R On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Greg vanDalen <_n… [at] yahoo.com_ (mailto:no… [at] yahoo.com) > wrote: Paul, Ours has the wood toe rail and it is a source of many leaks around the interior edges. Between that and the stanchions the boat gets more water from the rain than from the ocean. Greg From: "_p… [at] aol.com_ (mailto:pw… [at] aol.com) " <_p… [at] aol.com_ (mailto:pw… [at] aol.com) > To: _C… [at] yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com) Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39-2 Hull to Deck Brian - This post reminded me that my boat had a few customizations, one of them being an aluminum toe rail. The others were all opening ports and an in between draft of 6' as opposed to 6'-8" (?) or 5'-6". Paul In a message dated 2/1/2013 3:05:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _n… [at] yahoo.com_ (mailto:no… [at] yahoo.com) writes: There is a link to a Pearson 40 owners group that does a good write-up on replacing the toe-rail with an aluminum unit. _http://pearson40.net/toerail%20refit.htm_ (http://pearson40.net/toerail%20refit.htm) This is the plan my wife and I will take with our Cal39 hopefully this summer. Congrats on your new Cal! Greg From: sailtheboondocks <_b… [at] gmail.com_ (mailto:br… [at] gmail.com) > To: _C… [at] yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com) Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 11:14 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39-2 Hull to Deck Hey all, First time poster on this group, and it's great to see all those Cals out there. I just picked up my new home and cruiser, Diana B, a 1980 Cal 39 mk II and am starting to assemble my major project list. For now, the big one is my leaky hull to deck joints. I am going to re-bed all the stancions for now to see what that helps, but I do know I'll have to re-bed or glass over the hull to deck in the next few dry seasons. Has anyone on here addressed a leaky hull to deck joint? Would it be feasible to pull the toe rail off and clean out the joint and re-bed it? Would it be better to glass over the entire outer joint from the outside, fair it then re-install the toe rail?Any help is appreciated. Fair Winds!