Re: motor surge? ...New owner of Cal 20

Page 29 of the owners manual talks about motor surge and recommends an extended cavitation plate. Seals apparently had one at one point, but it is no longer listed on his website. Of course, it is closed today so I can't call! Did any of you have one of these? Any idea where else to get one? Or am I looking at having one custom made? Made a trip to Minney's Salvage yesterday, awesome store! Was like a kid in a candy shop. I pretty much have everything I need now except a hand held radio, but since I am really only planning on day sailing in SD bay I should be fine. Despite having sailed and raced regularly for over a year, doing the USS cert course and spending lots of time with sailors, I am still feeling soooo inexperienced. My sailing vocabulary needs an overhaul. Walking around Minney's looking for the things I needed and unable to ask for them because I didn't know what they were called was frustrating! Kicking myself for not picking up the Chapman's book they had for $5. And for not realizing until after I left that there was an outdoor area with anchors and fenders! Damn. Will be paying full price today at West Marine since the drive is just too far back to Minney's. Tuesday will be the big day, bringing her to my marina. A friend is heading out with me today to get her outfitted and set for sailing so we can just hop on board and head out early in the morning. Nervous, excited, hopeful that everything goes smoothly! --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "duchess287" wrote: > > Hello all. Just bought a Cal 20 in pretty decent shape. Looking for others who have one, have worked on one and who have useful tips while I get her ready to sail. She is solid. Picking up new sails for her this week. Finding lots of info online but the info is limited to renovations and I won't need to do much of that. A little paint and a scrub brush is all that is needed right now. Any tips, hints, links you can provide would be greatly appreciated! > > Hull #823 1966 > > First project: Need to install nav lights. All she has is a solar powered crappy stern light! haha > > Second: Will need a tiny fiberglass repair at the starboard aft corner outside, where the previous owner allowed her to rub against the dock. Minor issue. Less than 5 cm x 1 cm. > > Third: sand and varnish the tiller so I dont get splinters. >

Duchess, A couple thoughts. I don't have a extended cavitation plate on my cal 28, but I also place the outboard in the well, not on a stern bracket. This places the outboard closer to the middle of the boat so that if the boat hobbyhorses, the prop lifts less, and hopefully not out of the water. That is the cavitation part- a mix of air and water at the prop. Books are a great learning tool. Chapmans is a great start. I also really like 'This Old Boat' by Don Casey and Nigel Calder's electrical book. Though my favorite is probably John Letcher's Self Steering. Sensible Cruising from Don Casey was another good one, but it all depends on what interests you and what your trying to do. Minnies is a great store. Only been once, need to make another trip soon. Did you see any stove/ovens when you went? West Marine is convenient but expensive. They price match, so do a comparison shop in store, on your phone, and you get the convenience along with cheap prices and no shipping. The is the 'smart' part of that smart phone. It also sounds like you are from San Diego. I am too. The shelter island/point loma area is a boat supply mecca. I have my cal 28 on a mooring in the commercial basin and it is a short paddle over to the Marine Exchange dock, from there, anything I need is usually in walking distance. If your looking for crew, I would enjoy the sail. (but I have a 9-5) Cheers, Adam On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 7:15 AM, duchess287 <el… [at] gmail.com> wrote: > ** > > > > > Page 29 of the owners manual talks about motor surge and recommends an > extended cavitation plate. Seals apparently had one at one point, but it is > no longer listed on his website. Of course, it is closed today so I can't > call! Did any of you have one of these? Any idea where else to get one? Or > am I looking at having one custom made? > > Made a trip to Minney's Salvage yesterday, awesome store! Was like a kid > in a candy shop. I pretty much have everything I need now except a hand > held radio, but since I am really only planning on day sailing in SD bay I > should be fine. > > Despite having sailed and raced regularly for over a year, doing the USS > cert course and spending lots of time with sailors, I am still feeling > soooo inexperienced. My sailing vocabulary needs an overhaul. Walking > around Minney's looking for the things I needed and unable to ask for them > because I didn't know what they were called was frustrating! Kicking myself > for not picking up the Chapman's book they had for $5. And for not > realizing until after I left that there was an outdoor area with anchors > and fenders! Damn. Will be paying full price today at West Marine since the > drive is just too far back to Minney's. > > Tuesday will be the big day, bringing her to my marina. A friend is > heading out with me today to get her outfitted and set for sailing so we > can just hop on board and head out early in the morning. Nervous, excited, > hopeful that everything goes smoothly! > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "duchess287" wrote: > > > > Hello all. Just bought a Cal 20 in pretty decent shape. Looking for > others who have one, have worked on one and who have useful tips while I > get her ready to sail. She is solid. Picking up new sails for her this > week. Finding lots of info online but the info is limited to renovations > and I won't need to do much of that. A little paint and a scrub brush is > all that is needed right now. Any tips, hints, links you can provide would > be greatly appreciated! > > > > Hull #823 1966 > > > > First project: Need to install nav lights. All she has is a solar > powered crappy stern light! haha > > > > Second: Will need a tiny fiberglass repair at the starboard aft corner > outside, where the previous owner allowed her to rub against the dock. > Minor issue. Less than 5 cm x 1 cm. > > > > Third: sand and varnish the tiller so I dont get splinters. > > > > >

What about putting the outboard on a scissors bracket on the stern. Also, you can get by with less than five HP, my Cal 24 does fine with a 4 HP Suzuki 2 cycle. And it's 42 lbs. The newest four strokes are considerably lighter than the ones from just a few years ago, according to the specs. When I'm doing coastal cruising I usually run at two thirds throttle, and even at less than half throttle I can do over four knots, and the boat will really squeeze a lot more miles out of the fuel, which is good surprise if you think you don't have enough to get where you need to go. The only time I wanted max power going into the wind was during an off shore cruiser race with a motoring allowance. With an outboard on the transom, the prop will come out of the water in windy conditions and rough water, anyway. Jerry From: Adam Thorp <th… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: motor surge? ...New owner of Cal 20 Duchess, A couple thoughts. I don't have a extended cavitation plate on my cal 28, but I also place the outboard in the well, not on a stern bracket. This places the outboard closer to the middle of the boat so that if the boat hobbyhorses, the prop lifts less, and hopefully not out of the water. That is the cavitation part- a mix of air and water at the prop. Books are a great learning tool. Chapmans is a great start. I also really like 'This Old Boat' by Don Casey and Nigel Calder's electrical book. Though my favorite is probably John Letcher's Self Steering. Sensible Cruising from Don Casey was another good one, but it all depends on what interests you and what your trying to do. Minnies is a great store. Only been once, need to make another trip soon. Did you see any stove/ovens when you went? West Marine is convenient but expensive. They price match, so do a comparison shop in store, on your phone, and you get the convenience along with cheap prices and no shipping. The is the 'smart' part of that smart phone. It also sounds like you are from San Diego. I am too. The shelter island/point loma area is a boat supply mecca. I have my cal 28 on a mooring in the commercial basin and it is a short paddle over to the Marine Exchange dock, from there, anything I need is usually in walking distance. If your looking for crew, I would enjoy the sail. (but I have a 9-5) Cheers, Adam On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 7:15 AM, duchess287 <el… [at] gmail.com> wrote: > > > >Page 29 of the owners manual talks about motor surge and recommends an extended cavitation plate. Seals apparently had one at one point, but it is no longer listed on his website. Of course, it is closed today so I can't call! Did any of you have one of these? Any idea where else to get one? Or am I looking at having one custom made? > >Made a trip to Minney's Salvage yesterday, awesome store! Was like a kid in a candy shop. I pretty much have everything I need now except a hand held radio, but since I am really only planning on day sailing in SD bay I should be fine. > >Despite having sailed and raced regularly for over a year, doing the USS cert course and spending lots of time with sailors, I am still feeling soooo inexperienced. My sailing vocabulary needs an overhaul. Walking around Minney's looking for the things I needed and unable to ask for them because I didn't know what they were called was frustrating! Kicking myself for not picking up the Chapman's book they had for $5. And for not realizing until after I left that there was an outdoor area with anchors and fenders! Damn. Will be paying full price today at West Marine since the drive is just too far back to Minney's. > >Tuesday will be the big day, bringing her to my marina. A friend is heading out with me today to get her outfitted and set for sailing so we can just hop on board and head out early in the morning. Nervous, excited, hopeful that everything goes smoothly! > >--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "duchess287" wrote: >> >> Hello all. Just bought a Cal 20 in pretty decent shape. Looking for others who have one, have worked on one and who have useful tips while I get her ready to sail. She is solid. Picking up new sails for her this week. Finding lots of info online but the info is limited to renovations and I won't need to do much of that. A little paint and a scrub brush is all that is needed right now. Any tips, hints, links you can provide would be greatly appreciated! >> >> Hull #823 1966 >> >> First project: Need to install nav lights. All she has is a solar powered crappy stern light! haha >> >> Second: Will need a tiny fiberglass repair at the starboard aft corner outside, where the previous owner allowed her to rub against the dock. Minor issue. Less than 5 cm x 1 cm. >> >> Third: sand and varnish the tiller so I dont get splinters. >> > >

On 2/9/2013 10:15 AM, duchess287 wrote: > > Page 29 of the owners manual talks about motor surge and recommends an extended cavitation plate. Seals apparently had one at one point, but it is no longer listed on his website. Of course, it is closed today so I can't call! Did any of you have one of these? Any idea where else to get one? Or am I looking at having one custom made? The previous owner of my boat had epoxied some 1/2" square section pieces horizontally in the motor well, one on each side. Then he made a plywood plate with a cut-out for the outboard motor's lower unit. He added a piece of fiberglass batten stock with a hinge to the plywood plate, and this popped under a little block of wood at the aft upper side of the well to hold the thing down. I had a different outboard, so I made my plate out of truck mudflap rubber material, with small aluminum angle stock along the sides for stiffness. This system works, but imperfectly. It's not so imperfect that improving it has ever been high on my to-do list. (Item no. 1 is always "go sailing.") One nice thing about it is that I can steer the outboard some. If you had an aluminum plate bolted onto the lower unit, and if it were a tight fit, you'd not be able to steer the outboard. I could snap a photo of the rubber plate I use. If I had started from scratch, I probably would have located the wood strips, which serve like door stop trim, lower in the well. Can't photograph that now because the boat's under her winter cover and the filler plate (the no-outboard one) is secured in the well to keep raccoons or other critters out. Chris Campbell >

On 2/10/2013 3:58 AM, Gerald Sobel wrote: > > > What about putting the outboard on a scissors bracket on the stern. > Also, you can get by with less than five HP, my Cal 24 does fine with > a 4 HP Suzuki 2 cycle. I've pushed my boat along quite nicely with a 3 h.p. Evinrude 2-stroke, but that's in flat water. One day while using this substitute there was a bit of a sea running and it slowed the boat considerably. Of course, we have sailboats and ought to be sailing except in confined spaces like marinas anyway (my experience was in spring when I was powering toward a local marina to step my mast). Chris Campbell