Re: Fw: [Cal_Boats] Grounded Sailboat off Pacifica (right down the street)

Criminals are criminals usually because they are too stupid to get a job. Did they really expect a speedy getaway? They probably didn't even know sailboats have a keel lol. Dumbasses . . . Hope the guy's boat survives. Paul In a message dated 3/4/2013 3:20:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dy… [at] yahoo.com writes: Looks like they may be getting off in cuffs. How rude... _http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Sailboat-runs-aground-off-Pacifica-43 26362.php_ (http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Sailboat-runs-aground-off-Pacifica-4326362.php) <WBR From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg vanDalen Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:40 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Grounded Sailboat off Pacifica (right down the street) Saw this on the local Yahoo news as well. Definitely a nice looking large boat. I hope they are able to get off the beach soon since the weather isn't going to get any better over the next couple of days. From: Dylan Crouch <_d… [at] yahoo.com_ (mailto:dy… [at] yahoo.com) > To: cal_boats <_C… [at] yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com) > Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 9:20 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Grounded Sailboat off Pacifica (right down the street) [1 Attachment] Wife sent me the attached picture she shot from her phone on the way to drop our son off at school about two blocks away from here. This is on the Pacific side of the SF peninsula. If you are familiar with the area, there is a Taco Bell on Hwy 1 going through Pacifica & this is right there. Off the top of my head this was grounded around high (spring) tide. +6ft. The tide is going out & dropping by about 6ft & the next high is a neap tide at only about 4ft at 6pm tonight. I would not be surprised if they have to wait till next spring high tide 4-5am tomorrow to tow it. Pacifica (CA) police, fire department & pretty much everybody but the dog catcher is parked watching. We are a small town just south of San Francisco. Probably keeping the surfers at bay, as this is a popular spot (I frequently surf there). At least the beach is shallow & the keel is towards the ocean. I hope they are dropping some anchors, there are rocks all over, just under the waterline just to the left of where they are. I understand the current was working her that direction... Be interesting to see what happened when the story comes out. She said in passing it looked like a nice 50ft or so boat & the crew is still aboard. Dyer Honu, SF Bay. <WBR PG&E is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. E is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. <WBR>To learn more, pleas

Usually the salvage and enviro fines will exceed the hull value of the boat. He may loose it anyway Ymmv John Raxter On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:28 PM, pw… [at] aol.com wrote: > Criminals are criminals usually because they are too stupid to get a job. Did they really expect a speedy getaway? They probably didn't even know sailboats have a keel lol. > > Dumbasses . . . > > Hope the guy's boat survives. > > Paul > > In a message dated 3/4/2013 3:20:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dy… [at] yahoo.com writes: > > > Looks like they may be getting off in cuffs. How rude... > http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Sailboat-runs-aground-off-Pacifica-4326362.php > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg vanDalen > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:40 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Grounded Sailboat off Pacifica (right down the street) > > Saw this on the local Yahoo news as well. Definitely a nice looking large boat. I hope they are able to get off the beach soon since the weather isn't going to get any better over the next couple of days. > > From: Dylan Crouch <dy… [at] yahoo.com> > To: cal_boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 9:20 AM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Grounded Sailboat off Pacifica (right down the street) [1 Attachment] > > Wife sent me the attached picture she shot from her phone on the way to drop our son off at school about two blocks away from here. This is on the Pacific side of the SF peninsula. If you are familiar with the area, there is a Taco Bell on Hwy 1 going through Pacifica & this is right there. > > Off the top of my head this was grounded around high (spring) tide. +6ft. The tide is going out & dropping by about 6ft & the next high is a neap tide at only about 4ft at 6pm tonight. > I would not be surprised if they have to wait till next spring high tide 4-5am tomorrow to tow it. > > Pacifica (CA) police, fire department & pretty much everybody but the dog catcher is parked watching. We are a small town just south of San Francisco. Probably keeping the surfers at bay, as this is a popular spot (I frequently surf there). > > At least the beach is shallow & the keel is towards the ocean. I hope they are dropping some anchors, there are rocks all over, just under the waterline just to the left of where they are. I understand the current was working her that direction... > > Be interesting to see what happened when the story comes out. She said in passing it looked like a nice 50ft or so boat & the crew is still aboard. > > Dyer > Honu, SF Bay. > PG&E is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. To learn more, please visit http://www.pge.com/about/company/privacy/customer/ >

On 3/4/2013 3:28 PM, pw… [at] aol.com wrote: > > > Criminals are criminals usually because they are too stupid to get a job. Or because they are investment bankers. Sorry, couldn't resist. Some will rob you with a gun, others use a fountain pen. Chris Campbell

The boat was stolen and worth $3.5 million so probably no fines and lots of excess value beyond the salvage I would guess. Allen On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:44 PM, John Raxter <jr… [at] triad.rr.com> wrote: > ** > > > Usually the salvage and enviro fines will exceed the hull value of the > boat. He may loose it anyway > > Ymmv > > John Raxter > > > On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:28 PM, pw… [at] aol.com wrote: > > > > Criminals are criminals usually because they are too stupid to get a > job. Did they really expect a speedy getaway? They probably didn't even > know sailboats have a keel lol. > > Dumbasses . . . > > Hope the guy's boat survives. > > Paul > > In a message dated 3/4/2013 3:20:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > dy… [at] yahoo.com writes: > > > > > Looks like they may be getting off in cuffs. How rude... > > http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Sailboat-runs-aground-off-Pacifica-4326362.php > ** > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>] > *On Behalf Of *Greg vanDalen > *Sent:* Monday, March 04, 2013 9:40 AM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Grounded Sailboat off Pacifica (right down the > street) > > Saw this on the local Yahoo news as well. Definitely a nice looking > large boat. I hope they are able to get off the beach soon since the > weather isn't going to get any better over the next couple of days. > > *From:* Dylan Crouch <dy… [at] yahoo.com> > *To:* cal_boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Monday, March 4, 2013 9:20 AM > *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] Grounded Sailboat off Pacifica (right down the > street) [1 Attachment] > > Wife sent me the attached picture she shot from her phone on the way to > drop our son off at school about two blocks away from here. This is on the > Pacific side of the SF peninsula. If you are familiar with the area, there > is a Taco Bell on Hwy 1 going through Pacifica & this is right there. > > Off the top of my head this was grounded around high (spring) tide. > +6ft. The tide is going out & dropping by about 6ft & the next high is a > neap tide at only about 4ft at 6pm tonight. > I would not be surprised if they have to wait till next spring high > tide 4-5am tomorrow to tow it. > > Pacifica (CA) police, fire department & pretty much everybody but the > dog catcher is parked watching. We are a small town just south of San > Francisco. Probably keeping the surfers at bay, as this is a popular spot > (I frequently surf there). > > At least the beach is shallow & the keel is towards the ocean. I hope > they are dropping some anchors, there are rocks all over, just under the > waterline just to the left of where they are. I understand the current was > working her that direction... > > Be interesting to see what happened when the story comes out. She said > in passing it looked like a nice 50ft or so boat & the crew is still aboard. > > Dyer > Honu, SF Bay. > ** > PG&E is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. **To learn more, > please visit http://www.pge.com/about/company/privacy/customer/ > **** > > >

I hope they can exercise some imagination in getting the boat off. If the an dredge around the keel and get it loose, and lift it up with flotation bags, putting the boat over on its side and greatly reducing its draft, there's a good chance they can save the boat. I'm no salvage expert, but I don't see any other way they can get her out of there. The only other way is maybe loping off the keel, cutting off the mast, and pulling her to the closest facility that could handle such a big craft. Good luck to them. From: Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [Cal_Boats] Grounded Sailboat off Pacifica (right down the street) On 3/4/2013 3:28 PM, pw… [at] aol.com wrote: Criminals are criminals usually because they are too stupid to get a job. > Or because they are investment bankers. Sorry, couldn't resist. Some will rob you with a gun, others use a fountain pen. Chris Campbell

This was posted on the SSS forum: *Huge kudos to Parker Diving Services for pulling the stolen Oyster 82, DARLING, off Rockaway Beach late last night. It could not have been easy rigging a bridle and towline in the dark, with surf breaking against the hull. Those guys are pros, and it's good to see pros in action. WILDFLOWER was moored astern of DARLING in Friday Harbor for three days last summer. DARLING defines the word "yacht." http://www.interpacyachtcharters.com...rter/darling-2<http://www.interpacyachtcharters.com/yachts-for-charter/darling-2>At the time, she had three paid crew aboard. Things were spotless. The question is how did the "senior citizen" perps get DARLING out of Sausalito Yacht Harbor and out the Gate at oh dark thirty? DARLING was hauled this morning at Bay Marine in Richmond. Underwater damage is uncertain. But the rudder and prop are history. Looks like the "ship has come in" for Kim and crew at Bay Marine. ;-) * On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > I hope they can exercise some imagination in getting the boat off. If the > an dredge around the keel and get it loose, and lift it up with flotation > bags, putting the boat over on its side and greatly reducing its draft, > there's a good chance they can save the boat. I'm no salvage expert, but I > don't see any other way they can get her out of there. The only other way > is maybe loping off the keel, cutting off the mast, and pulling her to the > closest facility that could handle such a big craft. Good luck to them. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Monday, March 4, 2013 12:59 PM > *Subject:* Re: Fw: [Cal_Boats] Grounded Sailboat off Pacifica (right down > the street) > > > On 3/4/2013 3:28 PM, pw… [at] aol.com wrote: > > Criminals are criminals usually because they are too stupid to get a > job. > > > Or because they are investment bankers. > > Sorry, couldn't resist. Some will rob you with a gun, others use a > fountain pen. > > Chris Campbell > > > > >