Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sail numbers

I believe US Sailing will assign sail numbers. They used to be geographic, for example my Cal 29 was raced in Detroit, and carries a sail # of 5443, The 5 as the first digit indicated the Detroit area organizing authority. I think Chicago boats started with 6. I don't know what they do now, go to their website, I'm sure it's there. Regards,David Dobbs Cal 29 411 --- On Mon, 5/11/09, Rodney G Johnson <rj… [at] juno.com> wrote: From: Rodney G Johnson <rj… [at] juno.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Do you know the meaning of all the characters in a hull number? To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 8:31 PM Maybe....but "56" is not a "Racing Sail Number", like the number assigned to a boat by the IRU (International Racing Union or whatever the current name is). "56" is the CAL Hull#, and this is the number that would be on the sail to indicate that, (our old CAL 21 had "285" on the sail, since that was her hull#). The CAL # would be used if you were racing "one-design" , aka...in a CAL 28 Class regatta, but would not be used (usually?) for handcap racing, ie: several different designs racing in the same overall class. The PUR number will be assigned by the rating authority for the regatta. I believe that assigned number stays with the boat for further regattas? (I'm not a racer) Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II (DS class# 10201) and former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21, (CAL 21 Hull# 285) On Mon, 11 May 2009 20:55:37 -0000 "acostavientos" <acostavientos@ yahoo.com Wow!! Excelent! Thank you very much. So if I'm going to use this number as the reference to have it printed in the sails for regatta purpuses, my number will be PUR056, right? PUR = Puerto Rico ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ___ Digital Photography - Click Now.

PHRF may require you to use their 5 digit numbers. Each region is assigned a block of numbers to use. You can try your hull number, but chances are they will say No because hull numbers may be duplicates. Since we only race one design, our local CAL 25s use hull numbers. It's great because I can immediately know how old the boat is, its interior layout and the like based on hull number. We have on guy who brought the bat from Dtroit many years ago. He has the 4 digit number starting with a 5. That harkens back to the old IOR/MORC days before PHRF was a glint in its daddy's eye. Best of Luck Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 6:46 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [External] [Cal_Boats] Re: Sail Numbers Great timing....just about to become race registered....PHRF-NW over here on the west coast...are they issuing numbers for the sails or do I consider my HIN? And what numbers from that series is good? My hull no is CA8293970473 --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, david dobbs <tmft567@...> wrote: > > Wilkie, > My 29 also has a 4 digit sail #, actually quite common here in the Midwest. Used to be that the racing org issued those; mine starts with a 5, indicating it was a Detroit number. Chicago numbers began with 6. As an RC member trying to record finishes I love the low numbers! I believe T-10s use their hull # as a sail # also. > David Dobbs, CAL29 411, Sail # 5443 > > > > ________________________________ > From: David Owen <dwilkieo@...> > To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Papoose new spinnaker > > >  > > > > Mariposa has a four digit sail number, which is rare enough to draw comment in our fleet.  A one digit sail number is super cool. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 24, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Allen Edwards <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote: > > > We made the sail number larger than normal as I was afraid it would be lonely and lost normal size.  It still looks small. > > > > > >Allen > > > > > >On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 1:54 PM, David Owen <dwilkieo@...> wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >>Allen, > >> > >> > >>Looks great.  Love the sail number. > >> > >> > >>W > >> > >>Sent from my iPad > >> > >>On Mar 24, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Allen Edwards <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote: > >> > >> > >>Hope this picture comes through. > >>><spinnaker.jpg> > >>> > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

Here on the Chesapeake Bay, I'm allowed to use my 4 digit sail number (HIN) for PHRF. So far I have exclusively raced my Cal 25 as Cruising One Design (COD) but I am PHRF registered in case we decide to go out for any other races as practice, or take a stab at the Maryland Gov. Cup. Of course, I wouldn't entertain ideas of Gov Cup in a Cal 25 if a certain Mr. Husar would agree to race (or lend) his Cal 40 for the event. CheersScott S. Cal 25 #1651 IndefatigableAnnapolis, MD To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: hu… [at] bah.com Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 22:53:17 +0000 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sail Numbers PHRF may require you to use their 5 digit numbers. Each region is assigned a block of numbers to use. You can try your hull number, but chances are they will say No because hull numbers may be duplicates. Since we only race one design, our local CAL 25s use hull numbers. It's great because I can immediately know how old the boat is, its interior layout and the like based on hull number. We have on guy who brought the bat from Dtroit many years ago. He has the 4 digit number starting with a 5. That harkens back to the old IOR/MORC days before PHRF was a glint in its daddy's eye. Best of Luck Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 6:46 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [External] [Cal_Boats] Re: Sail Numbers Great timing....just about to become race registered....PHRF-NW over here on the west coast...are they issuing numbers for the sails or do I consider my HIN? And what numbers from that series is good? My hull no is CA8293970473 --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, david dobbs <tmft567@...> wrote: > > Wilkie, > My 29 also has a 4 digit sail #, actually quite common here in the Midwest. Used to be that the racing org issued those; mine starts with a 5, indicating it was a Detroit number. Chicago numbers began with 6. As an RC member trying to record finishes I love the low numbers! I believe T-10s use their hull # as a sail # also. > David Dobbs, CAL29 411, Sail # 5443 > > > > ________________________________ > From: David Owen <dwilkieo@...> > To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comCal_B… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Papoose new spinnaker > > >  > > > > Mariposa has a four digit sail number, which is rare enough to draw comment in our fleet.  A one digit sail number is super cool. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 24, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Allen Edwards <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote: > > > We made the sail number larger than normal as I was afraid it would be lonely and lost normal size.  It still looks small. > > > > > >Allen > > > > > >On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 1:54 PM, David Owen <dwilkieo@...> wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >>Allen, > >> > >> > >>Looks great.  Love the sail number. > >> > >> > >>W > >> > >>Sent from my iPad > >> > >>On Mar 24, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Allen Edwards <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote: > >> > >> > >>Hope this picture comes through. > >>><spinnaker.jpg> > >>> > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

Hi, Scott. Did PHRF do any checks for duplication of numbers? Don't know how many 1651s there might be. On the boat names discussion, the original name of CAL 25 1620 was "Pilgrim". Have a friend who has a CAL 25 named "Cio Thog" (sp?). It is Gaelic for left handed (which he is). From a distance it looks just like "Sh*t Hog". So that's what we call her. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sauvageot Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:04 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [External] RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sail Numbers Here on the Chesapeake Bay, I'm allowed to use my 4 digit sail number (HIN) for PHRF. So far I have exclusively raced my Cal 25 as Cruising One Design (COD) but I am PHRF registered in case we decide to go out for any other races as practice, or take a stab at the Maryland Gov. Cup. Of course, I wouldn't entertain ideas of Gov Cup in a Cal 25 if a certain Mr. Husar would agree to race (or lend) his Cal 40 for the event. Cheers Scott S. Cal 25 #1651 Indefatigable Annapolis, MD To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: hu… [at] bah.com Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 22:53:17 +0000 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sail Numbers PHRF may require you to use their 5 digit numbers. Each region is assigned a block of numbers to use. You can try your hull number, but chances are they will say No because hull numbers may be duplicates. Since we only race one design, our local CAL 25s use hull numbers. It's great because I can immediately know how old the boat is, its interior layout and the like based on hull number. We have on guy who brought the bat from Dtroit many years ago. He has the 4 digit number starting with a 5. That harkens back to the old IOR/MORC days before PHRF was a glint in its daddy's eye. Best of Luck Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of James Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 6:46 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [External] [Cal_Boats] Re: Sail Numbers Great timing....just about to become race registered....PHRF-NW over here on the west coast...are they issuing numbers for the sails or do I consider my HIN? And what numbers from that series is good? My hull no is CA8293970473 --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>, david dobbs <tmft567@...> wrote: > > Wilkie, > My 29 also has a 4 digit sail #, actually quite common here in the Midwest. Used to be that the racing org issued those; mine starts with a 5, indicating it was a Detroit number. Chicago numbers began with 6. As an RC member trying to record finishes I love the low numbers! I believe T-10s use their hull # as a sail # also. > David Dobbs, CAL29 411, Sail # 5443 > > > > ________________________________ > From: David Owen <dwilkieo@...> > To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>> > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Papoose new spinnaker > > >  > > > > Mariposa has a four digit sail number, which is rare enough to draw comment in our fleet.  A one digit sail number is super cool. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 24, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Allen Edwards <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote: > > > We made the sail number larger than normal as I was afraid it would be lonely and lost normal size.  It still looks small. > > > > > >Allen > > > > > >On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 1:54 PM, David Owen <dwilkieo@...> wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >>Allen, > >> > >> > >>Looks great.  Love the sail number. > >> > >> > >>W > >> > >>Sent from my iPad > >> > >>On Mar 24, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Allen Edwards <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote: > >> > >> > >>Hope this picture comes through. > >>><spinnaker.jpg> > >>> > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links

The T-10 I race on in the winter in PHRF has a 3 digit sail number. The L-36 that raced PHRF, and won the season, has a 2 digit sail number. I just submitted my PHRF form and indicated that my sail number is 5. When I race I actually tell the RC that my sail number is L-36 5 because they used to screw it up and record my time as sail number 36, which was someone else. I am in SF Bay so NCPHRF rules. I am unaware of any restrictions on sail number but I guess I will find out. They meet on my boat on Thursday. Allen On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) < hu… [at] bah.com> wrote: > ** > > > Hi, Scott. Did PHRF do any checks for duplication of numbers? Don’t > know how many 1651s there might be.**** > > ** ** > > On the boat names discussion, the original name of CAL 25 1620 was > “Pilgrim”.**** > > ** ** > > Have a friend who has a CAL 25 named “Cio Thog” (sp?). It is Gaelic for > left handed (which he is). From a distance it looks just like “Sh*t Hog”. > So that’s what we call her.**** > > ** ** > > Cheers**** > > Charlie**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Scott Sauvageot > *Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2013 8:04 PM > *To:* ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [External] RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sail Numbers**** > > ** ** > > > > > **** > > Here on the Chesapeake Bay, I'm allowed to use my 4 digit sail number > (HIN) for PHRF. So far I have exclusively raced my Cal 25 as Cruising One > Design (COD) but I am PHRF registered in case we decide to go out for any > other races as practice, or take a stab at the Maryland Gov. Cup. Of > course, I wouldn't entertain ideas of Gov Cup in a Cal 25 if a certain Mr. > Husar would agree to race (or lend) his Cal 40 for the event. **** > > ** ** > > Cheers**** > > Scott S. **** > > Cal 25 #1651 Indefatigable**** > > Annapolis, MD**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: hu… [at] bah.com > Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 22:53:17 +0000 > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sail Numbers > > **** > > PHRF may require you to use their 5 digit numbers. Each region is assigned > a block of numbers to use. You can try your hull number, but chances are > they will say No because hull numbers may be duplicates. Since we only race > one design, our local CAL 25s use hull numbers. It's great because I can > immediately know how old the boat is, its interior layout and the like > based on hull number. We have on guy who brought the bat from Dtroit many > years ago. He has the 4 digit number starting with a 5. That harkens back > to the old IOR/MORC days before PHRF was a glint in its daddy's eye. > > Best of Luck > Charlie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of James > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 6:46 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [External] [Cal_Boats] Re: Sail Numbers > > Great timing....just about to become race registered....PHRF-NW over here > on the west coast...are they issuing numbers for the sails or do I consider > my HIN? > > And what numbers from that series is good? My hull no is CA8293970473 > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, david dobbs <tmft567@...> wrote: > > > > Wilkie, > > My 29 also has a 4 digit sail #, actually quite common here in the > Midwest. Used to be that the racing org issued those; mine starts with a > 5, indicating it was a Detroit number. Chicago numbers began with 6. As > an RC member trying to record finishes I love the low numbers! I believe > T-10s use their hull # as a sail # also. > > David Dobbs, CAL29 411, Sail # 5443 > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: David Owen <dwilkieo@...> > > To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comCal_B… [at] yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:02 PM > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Papoose new spinnaker > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Mariposa has a four digit sail number, which is rare enough to draw > comment in our fleet.  A one digit sail number is super cool. > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Mar 24, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Allen Edwards <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote: > > > > > > We made the sail number larger than normal as I was afraid it would be > lonely and lost normal size.  It still looks small. > > > > > > > > >Allen > > > > > > > > >On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 1:54 PM, David Owen <dwilkieo@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>Allen, > > >> > > >> > > >>Looks great.  Love the sail number. > > >> > > >> > > >>W > > >> > > >>Sent from my iPad > > >> > > >>On Mar 24, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Allen Edwards <allen.p.edwards@...> > wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>Hope this picture comes through. > > >>><spinnaker.jpg> > > >>> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > **** > > > > > **** > > **** > > >