Cal 29 Beam price

Okay for 4 to 10 beams with 304 stainless the price is $375 + shipping from Lewes, Delaware. If 10 or more people become interested he can get a break on materials the price can drop to $325 plus shipping. He is still waiting on return phone calls from suppliers for the 316. Realistically he said the 304 will likely outlive the owners but will build it from whatever you guys decide you want. You can email me off list with any questions if you like. Paul pwestla at aol dot com

Isn't 304 stronger than 316? That may be another factor to consider. Allen On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 9:13 AM, <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: > ** > > > ** > Okay for 4 to 10 beams with 304 stainless the price is $375 + shipping > from Lewes, Delaware. > > If 10 or more people become interested he can get a break on materials the > price can drop to $325 plus shipping. > > He is still waiting on return phone calls from suppliers for the 316. > Realistically he said the 304 will likely outlive the owners but will build > it from whatever you guys decide you want. > > You can email me off list with any questions if you like. > > Paul > > pwestla at aol dot com > > >

That's about what I figured it would cost, so I'm in. Since there seem to be advantages to both 304 and 316, I don't really care either way. From: "pw… [at] aol.com" <pw… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:13 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 Beam price Okay for 4 to 10 beams with 304 stainless the price is $375 + shipping from Lewes, Delaware. If 10 or more people become interested he can get a break on materials the price can drop to $325 plus shipping. He is still waiting on return phone calls from suppliers for the 316. Realistically he said the 304 will likely outlive the owners but will build it from whatever you guys decide you want. You can email me off list with any questions if you like. Paul pwestla at aol dot com

That's actually better than I expected, especially if we can get more people in on this. Count me in as well. As far as which material to use, I would lean towards 316L if it won't inflate the price too much. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Greg Beron <gb… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > That's about what I figured it would cost, so I'm in. Since there seem to > be advantages to both 304 and 316, I don't really care either way. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "pw… [at] aol.com" <pw… [at] aol.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Friday, February 22, 2013 9:13 AM > *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 Beam price > > > Okay for 4 to 10 beams with 304 stainless the price is $375 + shipping > from Lewes, Delaware. > > If 10 or more people become interested he can get a break on materials the > price can drop to $325 plus shipping. > > He is still waiting on return phone calls from suppliers for the 316. > Realistically he said the 304 will likely outlive the owners but will build > it from whatever you guys decide you want. > > You can email me off list with any questions if you like. > > Paul > > pwestla at aol dot com > > > >

Guys, Whatever you use, 304, 316, or 316L, rub it down with Lanocote or cosmolene during installation. My .02, Michael From: Alex Kunadze <kr… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 Beam price That's actually better than I expected, especially if we can get more people in on this. Count me in as well. As far as which material to use, I would lean towards 316L if it won't inflate the price too much. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Greg Beron <gb… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > >That's about what I figured it would cost, so I'm in. Since there seem to be advantages to both 304 and 316, I don't really care either way. > > > > > >________________________________ > From: "pw… [at] aol.com" <pw… [at] aol.com> >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:13 AM >Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 Beam price > > > > >Okay for 4 to 10 beams with 304 stainless the price is $375 + shipping from Lewes, Delaware. >If 10 or more people become interested he can get a break on materials the price can drop to $325 plus shipping. > >He is still waiting on return phone calls from suppliers for the 316. Realistically he said the 304 will likely outlive the owners but will build it from whatever you guys decide you want. > >You can email me off list with any questions if you like. > >Paul > >pwestla at aol dot com > >

I would greatly prefer 316L. Terry Spencer On Feb 22, 2013, at 9:13 AM, pw… [at] aol.com wrote: > > Okay for 4 to 10 beams with 304 stainless the price is $375 + shipping from Lewes, Delaware. > > If 10 or more people become interested he can get a break on materials the price can drop to $325 plus shipping. > > He is still waiting on return phone calls from suppliers for the 316. Realistically he said the 304 will likely outlive the owners but will build it from whatever you guys decide you want. > > You can email me off list with any questions if you like. > > Paul > > pwestla at aol dot com > >

Hi Paul Im in on for 304 if you get an order for 10 (it will out live the boat.) Scott From: Greg Beron <gb… [at] yahoo.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 Beam price That's about what I figured it would cost, so I'm in. Since there seem to be advantages to both 304 and 316, I don't really care either way. From: "pw… [at] aol.com" <pw… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:13 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 Beam price Okay for 4 to 10 beams with 304 stainless the price is $375 + shipping from Lewes, Delaware. If 10 or more people become interested he can get a break on materials the price can drop to $325 plus shipping. He is still waiting on return phone calls from suppliers for the 316. Realistically he said the 304 will likely outlive the owners but will build it from whatever you guys decide you want. You can email me off list with any questions if you like. Paul pwestla at aol dot com

You guys are going to need to agree on 304 or 316 or the price is going to go up if he has to do less than 4 in both metals. He is still waiting on a price from suppliers for the 316 so I can't give you that price yet unfortunately. So far I have: Terry Spencer 316 Alex Kunadze 316 if it doesn't inflate the price too much Greg Beron either way Scott for 304 but only if I get an order for 10 and the price comes down. Paul

FWIW -- 316 or 316L are undeniably superior in many ways, but consider the reality of the "structure" you are fitting it into and maybe the decision is easier than you think. The guy that fabricated the stainless beam in "Mariposa" suggested that I replicate the original steel. He said that if Jensen had sent batches of beams out for "hot-dip" galvanizing instead of the cold galvanizing they used I wouldn't be having to build a new one. I asked him what "cold galvanizing" was and he said "probably a kid with a can of zinc spray paint.". As it turned out, he had some old new stock stainless laying around and the cost was only about $100 more and I wouldn't have to wait for the beam to ship back and forth to L.A. for the hot dip so I went with the stainless. Considering how much the cost of stock has gone up in the last few years I wonder if you really need stainless at all and I certainly wouldn't argue about the grade of it. I have a friend with a Cal 29 that is very rough and yet the original beam is spotless. His ice box hose leads elsewhere and there was no shower drain to plug up in his head pan. Any new beam with a modicum of maintenance and proper drainage is likely to outlive the rest of the boats structures it seems to me. Go with the 304 and save your money for when the mast or boom rots away or the keel starts to flex too much or the tabbing starts to break away from the bulkheads and floor pan and on and on..... I hope I haven't offended anyone. I mean to be helpful. Wilkie On Feb 22, 2013, at 6:47 PM, pw… [at] aol.com wrote: > > > You guys are going to need to agree on 304 or 316 or the price is going to go up if he has to do less than 4 in both metals. He is still waiting on a price from suppliers for the 316 so I can't give you that price yet unfortunately. > > So far I have: > > Terry Spencer 316 > Alex Kunadze 316 if it doesn't inflate the price too much > Greg Beron either way > > > > Scott for 304 but only if I get an order for 10 and the price comes down. > > > Paul > > >

Just get the 304 and call it 316L and everyone will be happy. I dare anyone to tell the difference particularly after it is installed and out of sight. I mean, how would you even know which one you got if it was handed to you. Allen On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 7:30 PM, David Owen <dw… [at] me.com> wrote: > ** > > > > > FWIW -- > > 316 or 316L are undeniably superior in many ways, but consider the reality > of the "structure" you are fitting it into and maybe the decision is easier > than you think. > > The guy that fabricated the stainless beam in "Mariposa" suggested that I > replicate the original steel. He said that if Jensen had sent batches of > beams out for "hot-dip" galvanizing instead of the cold galvanizing they > used I wouldn't be having to build a new one. I asked him what "cold > galvanizing" was and he said "probably a kid with a can of zinc spray > paint.". > > As it turned out, he had some old new stock stainless laying around and > the cost was only about $100 more and I wouldn't have to wait for the beam > to ship back and forth to L.A. for the hot dip so I went with the > stainless. Considering how much the cost of stock has gone up in the last > few years I wonder if you really need stainless at all and I certainly > wouldn't argue about the grade of it. I have a friend with a Cal 29 that > is very rough and yet the original beam is spotless. His ice box hose > leads elsewhere and there was no shower drain to plug up in his head pan. > > Any new beam with a modicum of maintenance and proper drainage is likely > to outlive the rest of the boats structures it seems to me. Go with the > 304 and save your money for when the mast or boom rots away or the keel > starts to flex too much or the tabbing starts to break away from the > bulkheads and floor pan and on and on..... > > I hope I haven't offended anyone. I mean to be helpful. > > Wilkie > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 22, 2013, at 6:47 PM, pw… [at] aol.com wrote: > > You guys are going to need to agree on 304 or 316 or the price is going > to go up if he has to do less than 4 in both metals. He is still waiting > on a price from suppliers for the 316 so I can't give you that price yet > unfortunately. > > So far I have: > > Terry Spencer 316 > Alex Kunadze 316 if it doesn't inflate the price too much > Greg Beron either way > > > > Scott for 304 but only if I get an order for 10 and the price comes down. > > > Paul > > >

Hi Paul Thanks for the price on the beam and since the others will not commit to the 304 I'm opting out I got a lead on the stainless and will have it done localy. Scott From: "pw… [at] aol.com" <pw… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 6:47 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 Beam Price You guys are going to need to agree on 304 or 316 or the price is going to go up if he has to do less than 4 in both metals. He is still waiting on a price from suppliers for the 316 so I can't give you that price yet unfortunately. So far I have: Terry Spencer 316 Alex Kunadze 316 if it doesn't inflate the price too much Greg Beron either way Scott for 304 but only if I get an order for 10 and the price comes down. Paul

Hello Cal list 29beam folks.... I haven't checked in here for about 4 years.... wow 12000 unread.... hmmm. I am the fellow who made a bunch of stainless steel (316L) beams a while back for the 29, 2-29 and the 3-30. I still have all the templates kicking around somewhere. I actually still have a couple of 3-30 beams sitting in my shop if any one needs one, left over from that run. I made about 10 Cal 29 beams... I think James Bibbs was one of them... and although the drawing done by dear Roger Jones is a great start, I quickly discovered that no two beams were alike. There are discrepancies in length and spacing of the three tabs that attach to the bulkhead, and there sometimes was a slightly different shape to the space between the hull shape and the bulkhead. From Rogers drawing I ended up making the template for the chord about a 1/2 inch less, this allowed for some needed room sometimes, and I ultimately always had to get the exact measurements from each original(s) for the locations of the tabs and the hole spacing. From the first three I made from Rogers drawing, one fit and the other two had to be modified to fit... an embarrassing learning experience... It basically became a custom job each time. The two 3-30 beams that I have, I have not welded on the plates for the bolts, as the angles and spacing are very specific to each one, and the 3-30 has a very tight and exact spacing in between the ring brace embedded in the hull that ties to the chain plates.... no two of those ever were alike either. 316L is far superior to 304. 304 is not made for a marine environment and will rust in sea air/water environment. It is okay in fresh water but is mostly made for kitchen stuff. Also, after fabrication the stainless needs to be pickled and passivated to allow the chromium in the alloy to do its job properly. Welds will corrode even in 316 if this is not done. The price you are getting quoted here is very very good. I am in Vancouver BC, I can't do it for that price plus shipping and duty was always an added pain and extra expense.... Here is a link to an album sowing some of the beam stuff.... the last two images are a cal29 beam. <https://picasaweb.google.com/107609804521507241089/ChimeraAModifiedCal330#> Cheers Alan Storey Cal 3-30X "Chimera" From: "scott" <ss… [at] yahoo.com> To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 7:45:38 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 Beam Price Hi Paul Thanks for the price on the beam and since the others will not commit to the 304 I'm opting out I got a lead on the stainless and will have it done localy. Scott From: "pw… [at] aol.com" <pw… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 6:47 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 29 Beam Price You guys are going to need to agree on 304 or 316 or the price is going to go up if he has to do less than 4 in both metals. He is still waiting on a price from suppliers for the 316 so I can't give you that price yet unfortunately. So far I have: Terry Spencer 316 Alex Kunadze 316 if it doesn't inflate the price too much Greg Beron either way Scott for 304 but only if I get an order for 10 and the price comes down. Paul