Re: Marina del Rey Visioning Meeting

Maties, Here is a heads up on a meeting regarding the future of our Marina. It can't hurt to show up and voice your vision. As you know, the Cabal of Supervisors and Developers are up to no good. They plan to remove Santa Monica Windjammer Yacht Club building and facilities in favor of a mechanical babbling brook, a boat house for kayaks and stand up paddle boards to make more room for commercial development, which is illegal. We need to hold their noses to the fire, so to speak. Jerry of Shpritz Subject: Marina del Rey Visioning Meeting From: cm… [at] bh.lacounty.gov To: co… [at] msn.com Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 18:51:26 +0000 Marina del Rey Visioning Meeting Is this email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser. Please join the Department of Regional Planning at the upcoming Marina del Rey Visioning Meeting Thursday, April 25, 6:30 pm - 8:30pm Marina del Rey Hotel 13534 Bali Way, Marina del Rey, CA 90292 Members of the community are invited to attend the Marina Del Rey Visioning Meeting, hosted by the Los Angeles County Department of Regional Planning, to learn more about: * the process to develop a shared community vision for Marina del Rey * the schedule of activities * the project team * opportunities for community members to get involved * providing feedback To download a printable flyer, please click here. For more information, contact Gina Natoli or Kevin Finkel of the Community Studies West Section at (213) 974-6422 or co… [at] planning.lacounty.gov. Office hours are Monday through Thursday from 7:00am to 5:00pm. More information will be posted in the coming days on Regional Planning's Marina Website, at http://lacounty.us4.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=3b76d1a60f&e=dbd827c964. follow on Twitter | like on Facebook | forward to a friend Copyright © 2013 Dept. of Beaches and Harbors, All rights reserved. You are receiving this email because you have opted in to receive relevant updates from the Los Angeles County Department of Beaches and Harbors. Our mailing address is: Dept. of Beaches and Harbors 4701 Admiralty WayMarina del Rey, CA 90292 Add us to your address book unsubscribe from this list | update subscription preferences

Can you give a link to the law that makes this illegal? Also, can you site the specific part of the law they are violating? These are good things to be able to do before you attend the meeting :-) Allen On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com>wrote: > ** > > > > > ------------------------------ > *Maties, > Here is a heads up on a meeting regarding the future of our Marina. > It can't hurt to show up and voice your vision. As you know, the Cabal > of Supervisors and Developers are up to no good. > They plan to remove Santa Monica Windjammer Yacht Club building and > facilities in favor of a mechanical babbling brook, a boat house for > kayaks and stand up paddle boards to make more room for commercial > development, which is illegal. > We need to hold their noses to the fire, so to speak. > **Jerry of Shpritz > * > > > ------------------------------ > Subject: Marina del Rey Visioning Meeting > From: cm… [at] bh.lacounty.gov > To: co… [at] msn.com > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 18:51:26 +0000 > > > Is this email not displaying correctly? > View it in your browser<http://us4.campaign-archive2.com/?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=06e9574eea&e=dbd827c964>. > > [image: Department of Beaches & Harbors]<http://lacounty.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=ff29396c30&e=dbd827c964> > Please join the *Department of Regional Planning *at the upcoming > > Marina del Rey Visioning Meeting > *Thursday, April 25, 6:30 pm - 8:30pm* > > Marina del Rey Hotel > 13534 Bali Way, Marina del Rey, CA 90292 > > Members of the community are invited to attend the *Marina Del Rey > Visioning Meeting*, hosted by the Los Angeles County Department of > Regional Planning, to learn more about: > > - the process to develop a shared community vision for Marina del Rey > - the schedule of activities > - the project team > - opportunities for community members to get involved > - providing feedback > > To download a printable flyer, please click *here<http://lacounty.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=67a5918669&e=dbd827c964> > *. > > For more information, contact Gina Natoli or Kevin Finkel of the Community > Studies West Section at (213) 974-6422 or > co… [at] planning.lacounty.gov. Office hours are Monday through > Thursday from 7:00am to 5:00pm. > > More information will be posted in the coming days on Regional Planning's > Marina Website, at > http://lacounty.us4.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=3b76d1a60f&e=dbd827c964 > . > follow on Twitter<http://lacounty.us4.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=cf4d0e96bd&e=dbd827c964> | > like on Facebook<http://lacounty.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=22ef21a23f&e=dbd827c964>| > forward to a friend<http://us4.forward-to-friend1.com/forward?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=06e9574eea&e=dbd827c964> > > *Copyright © 2013 Dept. of Beaches and Harbors, All rights reserved.* > You are receiving this email because you have opted in to receive relevant > updates from the Los Angeles County Department of Beaches and Harbors. > *Our mailing address is:* > Dept. of Beaches and Harbors > 4701 Admiralty Way > Marina del Rey, CA 90292 > > Add us to your address book<http://lacounty.us4.list-manage.com/vcard?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=a36be439d7> > [image: Email Marketing Powered by MailChimp]<http://www.mailchimp.com/monkey-rewards/?utm_source=freemium_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=monkey_rewards&aid=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&afl=1> > unsubscribe from this list<http://lacounty.us4.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=a36be439d7&e=dbd827c964&c=06e9574eea>| update > subscription preferences<http://lacounty.us4.list-manage.com/profile?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=a36be439d7&e=dbd827c964> > > > > > >

Allen, The original documents were stolen from the Library of Congress. Hmm. I wonder how that happened? I have the original documents, ..somewhere. But I saw them, I called the library of Congress and had them sent to me before the theft occurred. Others have copies of it as well. More than half a dozen officials swore on bibles that there would be, other than boating related, no commercial development in Marina del Rey, or any kind of real estate speculation as a result of the building of Marina del Rey... NOR IN ITS ENVIRONS! This was in the act of Congress of the second session, 1954, (#389??) in which the construction of the marina, using millions of dollars of Federal Funds to dredge it, and State and local funds to acquire the land...at the time, beside a huge marshy lagoon, mostly oil wells, metal plating pants and other nasty stuff...was acquired. And the land was a virtual Love Canal, not suitable for residential development, which is going up like a mega-giant alien wood fungus. This is why laws and testimony are utterly worthless unless the people organize and fight for their rights, against huge moneyed interests, crooked law enforcers, judges and elected officials, and frankly, one of the big failures of American democracy. (woops, didn't mean to get political, but it does mean losing docks, parking, and meeting facilities for our sailing activities) Jerry From: Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Marina del Rey Visioning Meeting Can you give a link to the law that makes this illegal? Also, can you site the specific part of the law they are violating? These are good things to be able to do before you attend the meeting :-) Allen On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > >________________________________ >Maties, >Here is a heads up on a meeting regarding the future of our Marina. >It can't hurt to show up and voice your vision. As you know, the Cabal of Supervisors and Developers are up to no good. >They plan to remove Santa Monica Windjammer Yacht Club building and facilities in favor of a mechanical babbling brook, a boat house for kayaks and stand up paddle boards to make more room for commercial development, which is illegal. >We need to hold their noses to the fire, so to speak. >Jerry of Shpritz > > > > > >________________________________ >Subject: Marina del Rey Visioning Meeting >From: cm… [at] bh.lacounty.gov >To: co… [at] msn.com >Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 18:51:26 +0000 > > > Is this email not displaying correctly? >View it in your browser. > >Please join the Department of Regional Planning at the upcoming > >Marina del Rey Visioning Meeting >Thursday, April 25, 6:30 pm - 8:30pm > >Marina del Rey Hotel >13534 Bali Way, Marina del Rey, CA 90292 > Members of the community are invited to attend the Marina Del Rey Visioning Meeting, hosted by the Los Angeles County Department of Regional Planning, to learn more about: > * the process to develop a shared community vision for Marina del Rey > * the schedule of activities > * the project team > * opportunities for community members to get involved > * providing feedback To download a printable flyer, please click here. > >For more information, contact Gina Natoli or Kevin Finkel of the Community Studies West Section at (213) 974-6422 or co… [at] planning.lacounty.gov. Office hours are Monday through Thursday from 7:00am to 5:00pm. > >More information will be posted in the coming days on Regional Planning's Marina Website, at http://lacounty.us4.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=3b76d1a60f&e=dbd827c964. > follow on Twitter | like on Facebook | forward to a friend >Copyright © 2013 Dept. of Beaches and Harbors, All rights reserved. >You are receiving this email because you have opted in to receive relevant updates from the Los Angeles County Department of Beaches and Harbors. >Our mailing address is: > >Dept. of Beaches and Harbors >4701 Admiralty WayMarina del Rey, CA 90292 >Add us to your address book > unsubscribe from this list | update subscription preferences > > >

Your story that they were stolen from the Library of Congress sounds like a conspiracy theory so I would not bring that up. Bring the documents and site the law, the number and the section. Don't sound crazy. Don't mention verbal agreements, they are not worth the paper they are written on. Just my advice, take it or leave it. I live a long way away so not an interested party other than to wish you good luck. Allen On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > Allen, > The original documents were stolen from the Library of Congress. Hmm. I > wonder how that happened? > I have the original documents, ..somewhere. > But I saw them, I called the library of Congress and had them sent to me > before the theft occurred. > Others have copies of it as well. > > > More than half a dozen officials swore on bibles that there would be, > other than boating related, no commercial development in Marina del Rey, or > any kind of real estate speculation as a result of the building of Marina > del Rey... NOR IN ITS ENVIRONS! This was in the act of Congress of the > second session, 1954, (#389??) in which the construction of the marina, > using millions of dollars of Federal Funds to dredge it, and State and > local funds to acquire the land...at the time, beside a huge marshy lagoon, > mostly oil wells, metal plating pants and other nasty stuff...was acquired. > And the land was a virtual Love Canal, not suitable for residential > development, which is going up like a mega-giant alien wood fungus. > > This is why laws and testimony are utterly worthless unless the people > organize and fight for their rights, against huge moneyed interests, > crooked law enforcers, judges and elected officials, and frankly, one of > the big failures of American democracy. (woops, didn't mean to get > political, but it does mean losing docks, parking, and meeting facilities > for our sailing activities) > Jerry > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> > *To:* "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:28 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Marina del Rey Visioning Meeting > > > Can you give a link to the law that makes this illegal? Also, can you > site the specific part of the law they are violating? These are good > things to be able to do before you attend the meeting :-) > > Allen > > > On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com>wrote: > > ** > > > > ------------------------------ > *Maties, > Here is a heads up on a meeting regarding the future of our Marina. > It can't hurt to show up and voice your vision. As you know, the Cabal > of Supervisors and Developers are up to no good. > They plan to remove Santa Monica Windjammer Yacht Club building and > facilities in favor of a mechanical babbling brook, a boat house for > kayaks and stand up paddle boards to make more room for commercial > development, which is illegal. > We need to hold their noses to the fire, so to speak. > **Jerry of Shpritz > * > > > ------------------------------ > Subject: Marina del Rey Visioning Meeting > From: cm… [at] bh.lacounty.gov > To: co… [at] msn.com > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 18:51:26 +0000 > > > Is this email not displaying correctly? > View it in your browser<http://us4.campaign-archive2.com/?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=06e9574eea&e=dbd827c964>. > > [image: Department of Beaches & Harbors]<http://lacounty.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=ff29396c30&e=dbd827c964> > Please join the *Department of Regional Planning *at the upcoming > > Marina del Rey Visioning Meeting > *Thursday, April 25, 6:30 pm - 8:30pm* > > Marina del Rey Hotel > 13534 Bali Way, Marina del Rey, CA 90292 > > Members of the community are invited to attend the *Marina Del Rey > Visioning Meeting*, hosted by the Los Angeles County Department of > Regional Planning, to learn more about: > > - the process to develop a shared community vision for Marina del Rey > - the schedule of activities > - the project team > - opportunities for community members to get involved > - providing feedback > > To download a printable flyer, please click *here<http://lacounty.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=67a5918669&e=dbd827c964> > *. > > For more information, contact Gina Natoli or Kevin Finkel of the Community > Studies West Section at (213) 974-6422 or > co… [at] planning.lacounty.gov. Office hours are Monday through > Thursday from 7:00am to 5:00pm. > > More information will be posted in the coming days on Regional Planning's > Marina Website, at > http://lacounty.us4.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=3b76d1a60f&e=dbd827c964 > . > follow on Twitter<http://lacounty.us4.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=cf4d0e96bd&e=dbd827c964> | > like on Facebook<http://lacounty.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=22ef21a23f&e=dbd827c964>| > forward to a friend<http://us4.forward-to-friend1.com/forward?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=06e9574eea&e=dbd827c964> > > *Copyright © 2013 Dept. of Beaches and Harbors, All rights reserved.* > You are receiving this email because you have opted in to receive relevant > updates from the Los Angeles County Department of Beaches and Harbors. > *Our mailing address is:* > Dept. of Beaches and Harbors > 4701 Admiralty Way > Marina del Rey, CA 90292 > > Add us to your address book<http://lacounty.us4.list-manage.com/vcard?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=a36be439d7> > [image: Email Marketing Powered by MailChimp]<http://www.mailchimp.com/monkey-rewards/?utm_source=freemium_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=monkey_rewards&aid=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&afl=1> > unsubscribe from this list<http://lacounty.us4.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=a36be439d7&e=dbd827c964&c=06e9574eea>| update > subscription preferences<http://lacounty.us4.list-manage.com/profile?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=a36be439d7&e=dbd827c964> > > > > > > > > >

Allen, thanks for your input. We'll see if we can dig up this paper work. I was told by a friend of mine who has been active in the cause, (was president of the LAX area chapter of the Sierra Club) that that testimony, as well as the prospective, original map of Marina del Rey, showing a big, 3/4 mile wide lagoon, and 8,500 slips in marinas and parkland in its circumference, and two harbor entrances (we have a back up of pollution and toxics from sharing our sea outlet with the Ballona Creek outfall, another thing that was promised wouldn't be done), went missing. Jerry From: Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Marina del Rey Visioning Meeting Your story that they were stolen from the Library of Congress sounds like a conspiracy theory so I would not bring that up. Bring the documents and site the law, the number and the section. Don't sound crazy. Don't mention verbal agreements, they are not worth the paper they are written on. Just my advice, take it or leave it. I live a long way away so not an interested party other than to wish you good luck. Allen On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > >Allen, >The original documents were stolen from the Library of Congress. Hmm. I wonder how that happened? >I have the original documents, ..somewhere. >But I saw them, I called the library of Congress and had them sent to me before the theft occurred. >Others have copies of it as well. > > >More than half a dozen officials swore on bibles that there would be, other than boating related, no commercial development in Marina del Rey, or any kind of real estate speculation as a result of the building of Marina del Rey... NOR IN ITS ENVIRONS! This was in the act of Congress of the second session, 1954, (#389??) in which the construction of the marina, using millions of dollars of Federal Funds to dredge it, and State and local funds to acquire the land...at the time, beside a huge marshy lagoon, mostly oil wells, metal plating pants and other nasty stuff...was acquired. And the land was a virtual Love Canal, not suitable for residential development, which is going up like a mega-giant alien wood fungus. > >This is why laws and testimony are utterly worthless unless the people organize and fight for their rights, against huge moneyed interests, crooked law enforcers, judges and elected officials, and frankly, one of the big failures of American democracy. (woops, didn't mean to get political, but it does mean losing docks, parking, and meeting facilities for our sailing activities) >Jerry > > > > > > >________________________________ > From: Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> >To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:28 PM >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Marina del Rey Visioning Meeting > > > > >Can you give a link to the law that makes this illegal? Also, can you site the specific part of the law they are violating? These are good things to be able to do before you attend the meeting :-) > > >Allen > > > >On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>Maties, >>Here is a heads up on a meeting regarding the future of our Marina. >>It can't hurt to show up and voice your vision. As you know, the Cabal of Supervisors and Developers are up to no good. >>They plan to remove Santa Monica Windjammer Yacht Club building and facilities in favor of a mechanical babbling brook, a boat house for kayaks and stand up paddle boards to make more room for commercial development, which is illegal. >>We need to hold their noses to the fire, so to speak. >>Jerry of Shpritz >> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>Subject: Marina del Rey Visioning Meeting >>From: cm… [at] bh.lacounty.gov >>To: co… [at] msn.com >>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 18:51:26 +0000 >> >> >> Is this email not displaying correctly? >>View it in your browser. >> >>Please join the Department of Regional Planning at the upcoming >> >>Marina del Rey Visioning Meeting >>Thursday, April 25, 6:30 pm - 8:30pm >> >>Marina del Rey Hotel >>13534 Bali Way, Marina del Rey, CA 90292 >> Members of the community are invited to attend the Marina Del Rey Visioning Meeting, hosted by the Los Angeles County Department of Regional Planning, to learn more about: >> * the process to develop a shared community vision for Marina del Rey >> * the schedule of activities >> * the project team >> * opportunities for community members to get involved >> * providing feedback To download a printable flyer, please click here. >> >>For more information, contact Gina Natoli or Kevin Finkel of the Community Studies West Section at (213) 974-6422 or co… [at] planning.lacounty.gov. Office hours are Monday through Thursday from 7:00am to 5:00pm. >> >>More information will be posted in the coming days on Regional Planning's Marina Website, at http://lacounty.us4.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=c203cb1ce8c24987dc02a6eb3&id=3b76d1a60f&e=dbd827c964. >> follow on Twitter | like on Facebook | forward to a friend >>Copyright © 2013 Dept. of Beaches and Harbors, All rights reserved. >>You are receiving this email because you have opted in to receive relevant updates from the Los Angeles County Department of Beaches and Harbors. >>Our mailing address is: >> >>Dept. of Beaches and Harbors >>4701 Admiralty WayMarina del Rey, CA 90292 >>Add us to your address book >> unsubscribe from this list | update subscription preferences >> >> >> > > >