New member. Buying a Cal 33-2. Questions.

New member. Buying a Cal 33-2. Questions.

2 messages2013-07-05 10:28 UTCthrough 2013-07-05 12:08 UTC

New member. Buying a Cal 33-2. Questions.

Leslie Newman2013-07-05 10:28 UTC
Hello. New member to this group. Glad to have found you. I'll get to the point. 1986. Cal 33. Boat has been very well kept. Don't see lots of stress cracks in the gel coat. Up until the last owner was owned by competent sailors. The present owner of three years I found out was not and is not a boat person. Problems found so far after a day inspecting the boat on my own... 1. wood floor near settee spongy. Examination shows the plywood floor is delaminating some. Don't see water. It seems more like the thin plywood is just weak from being stepped on over the years. 2. Sails aren't like a towel, but are somewhat soft. 3. Found out that the current owner (of three years) was NOT a boat person and knew little of what they were doing. During a docking the boat got slammed into a floating dock, damaging the bow just above the blue line. Damage was above water line and it was professionally repaired. Apparently it was probably a 6 to 8 inch vertical chunk taken out of the bow. Don't know how deep it was. How worried should I be about this repair failing, cracking, etc? It was not disclosed to me about the damage and repair, but a neighboring boat owner was chatting and started telling us about the incident and pointed out the repair. Color match was very good, but you can see the repair if you look close and know it is there. 4. The metal bow sprint piece shows obvious weld repair on the starboard side, like it struck a piling and bent just behind the roller, had to be straightened and then re-enforced with weld. The pulpit on that side is also canted. I guess the owner also struck a piling at some time. Must be a different incident, because the dock where they hit the bow is totally open and no piling there. Seems the guy didn't know to slow down. 5. Neighboring boat owner was very chatty and also mentioned that the owner also forgot to turn on the fresh water supply once and burned up the pump impeller when they ran the diesel. The diesel does start and run very smooth. Probably didn't run it hot or anything. Anyone have information regarding the Cal 33? What to watch out for. Are these boats of this vintage sound? Value? Any information is much appreciated. Thanks.

RE: [Cal_Boats] New member. Buying a Cal 33-2. Questions.

Ted Wrobel2013-07-05 12:08 UTC
Hi Leslie, Bought a 1988 Cal 33 last year. Had it professionally surveyed. Survey found no major problems. Closest to a "real" problem was the bonding throughout the boat. Several thru hull fittings were not bonded as the wiring had failed. One can discuss bonding about as safely as religion. I disconnected everything I could find since I am of the bonding is bad school. He found a couple of deck areas thar indicated some moisture - probably from hardware bedding failure. Nothing major and could not identify source of leaking. Not sure I can offer any useful info, but welcome to the world of Cals! Ted Wrobel Cal 33 Celebration Newport, RI _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Leslie Newman Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 6:29 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] New member. Buying a Cal 33-2. Questions. Hello. New member to this group. Glad to have found you. I'll get to the point. 1986. Cal 33. Boat has been very well kept. Don't see lots of stress cracks in the gel coat. Up until the last owner was owned by competent sailors. The present owner of three years I found out was not and is not a boat person. Problems found so far after a day inspecting the boat on my own... 1. wood floor near settee spongy. Examination shows the plywood floor is delaminating some. Don't see water. It seems more like the thin plywood is just weak from being stepped on over the years. 2. Sails aren't like a towel, but are somewhat soft. 3. Found out that the current owner (of three years) was NOT a boat person and knew little of what they were doing. During a docking the boat got slammed into a floating dock, damaging the bow just above the blue line. Damage was above water line and it was professionally repaired. Apparently it was probably a 6 to 8 inch vertical chunk taken out of the bow. Don't know how deep it was. How worried should I be about this repair failing, cracking, etc? It was not disclosed to me about the damage and repair, but a neighboring boat owner was chatting and started telling us about the incident and pointed out the repair. Color match was very good, but you can see the repair if you look close and know it is there. 4. The metal bow sprint piece shows obvious weld repair on the starboard side, like it struck a piling and bent just behind the roller, had to be straightened and then re-enforced with weld. The pulpit on that side is also canted. I guess the owner also struck a piling at some time. Must be a different incident, because the dock where they hit the bow is totally open and no piling there. Seems the guy didn't know to slow down. 5. Neighboring boat owner was very chatty and also mentioned that the owner also forgot to turn on the fresh water supply once and burned up the pump impeller when they ran the diesel. The diesel does start and run very smooth. Probably didn't run it hot or anything. Anyone have information regarding the Cal 33? What to watch out for. Are these boats of this vintage sound? Value? Any information is much appreciated. Thanks. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/5965 - Release Date: 07/04/13