Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat

Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat

6 messages2013-07-26 16:38 UTCthrough 2013-07-26 20:41 UTC

Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat

Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)2013-07-26 16:38 UTC
Power boat statement: We are going to St. Michaels for lunch. Sailboat statement: We are going sailing. It is more in the journey instead of the destination. Don’t even need a destination. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Sobel Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:26 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [External] Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat Chris, yes, that and the good smilage that a small sailboat affords. It's because, when it comes to boating, getting there is most of the fun! Jerry From: Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 8:08 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat I'm preaching to the choir here, but still can't resist. Last night I sailed off the mooring for my evening sail and passed a power runabout with a few people aboard. "Hey, nice boat!" they shouted. Ol' Cal 20 #1220 is the smallest boat in the mooring field, and her lines have none of the Euro-flash styling that seems to be required in all new designs. Maybe it's the varnished mahogany rudder & tiller that add a bit of cool yachtiness. Who knows. But even power boaters can recognize a good boat. Chris Campbell

Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat

pw… [at] aol.com2013-07-26 16:42 UTC
I heard one powerboater say to a sailor "Don't you ever get tired of seeing the same 5 miles of the Bay?" Paul From: Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) [USA] (ASE) <hu… [at] bah.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Jul 26, 2013 12:38 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat Power boat statement: We are going to St. Michaels for lunch. Sailboat statement: We are going sailing. It is more in the journey instead of the destination. Don’t even need a destination. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Gerald Sobel Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:26 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [External] Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat Chris, yes, that and the good smilage that a small sailboat affords. It's because, when it comes to boating, getting there is most of the fun! Jerry From: Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 8:08 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat I'm preaching to the choir here, but still can't resist. Last night I sailed off the mooring for my evening sail and passed a power runabout with a few people aboard. "Hey, nice boat!" they shouted. Ol' Cal 20 #1220 is the smallest boat in the mooring field, and her lines have none of the Euro-flash styling that seems to be required in all new designs. Maybe it's the varnished mahogany rudder & tiller that add a bit of cool yachtiness. Who knows. But even power boaters can recognize a good boat. Chris Campbell

Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat

Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)2013-07-26 16:53 UTC
Hi, Paul. This weekend we race to Spaniard’s Neck in the Corsica River north of the Bay Bridge on the Eastern Shore. Idyllic. We call it “the race to the middle of nowhere”. Raft up for overnight, party a bit, and race back to Baltimore Light Sunday. Different world over there. On these events, I am more of a caterer than a skipper. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pw… [at] aol.com Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 12:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [External] Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat I heard one powerboater say to a sailor "Don't you ever get tired of seeing the same 5 miles of the Bay?" Paul From: Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) [USA] (ASE) <hu… [at] bah.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Jul 26, 2013 12:38 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat Power boat statement: We are going to St. Michaels for lunch. Sailboat statement: We are going sailing. It is more in the journey instead of the destination. Don’t even need a destination. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?>] On Behalf Of Gerald Sobel Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:26 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: [External] Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat Chris, yes, that and the good smilage that a small sailboat affords. It's because, when it comes to boating, getting there is most of the fun! Jerry From: Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org<mailto:cc… [at] lsnm.org>> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 8:08 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat I'm preaching to the choir here, but still can't resist. Last night I sailed off the mooring for my evening sail and passed a power runabout with a few people aboard. "Hey, nice boat!" they shouted. Ol' Cal 20 #1220 is the smallest boat in the mooring field, and her lines have none of the Euro-flash styling that seems to be required in all new designs. Maybe it's the varnished mahogany rudder & tiller that add a bit of cool yachtiness. Who knows. But even power boaters can recognize a good boat. Chris Campbell

Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat

pw… [at] aol.com2013-07-26 16:59 UTC
I live on the Eastern Shore and yes it is a different world over here. I took my son to a beach at the Cedar Hill Marina on a Saturday a couple of weeks ago. I was there for 4 hours and saw 2 boats on the water . . . and this was at a marina! We have a lady in our club who came from Annapolis and races a Catalina 27 (very well I might add) and she loves it in Cambridge just for the fact that you motor out of the marina for 2 min and you are able to race right there. Paul From: Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) [USA] (ASE) <hu… [at] bah.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Jul 26, 2013 12:53 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat Hi, Paul. This weekend we race to Spaniard’s Neck in the Corsica River north of the Bay Bridge on the Eastern Shore. Idyllic. We call it “the race to the middle of nowhere”. Raft up for overnight, party a bit, and race back to Baltimore Light Sunday. Different world over there. On these events, I am more of a caterer than a skipper. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of pw… [at] aol.com Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 12:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [External] Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat I heard one powerboater say to a sailor "Don't you ever get tired of seeing the same 5 miles of the Bay?" Paul From: Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) [USA] (ASE) <hu… [at] bah.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Jul 26, 2013 12:38 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat Power boat statement: We are going to St. Michaels for lunch. Sailboat statement: We are going sailing. It is more in the journey instead of the destination. Don’t even need a destination. Cheers Charlie From:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Gerald Sobel Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:26 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [External] Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat Chris, yes, that and the good smilage that a small sailboat affords. It's because, when it comes to boating, getting there is most of the fun! Jerry From: Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 8:08 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat I'm preaching to the choir here, but still can't resist. Last night I sailed off the mooring for my evening sail and passed a power runabout with a few people aboard. "Hey, nice boat!" they shouted. Ol' Cal 20 #1220 is the smallest boat in the mooring field, and her lines have none of the Euro-flash styling that seems to be required in all new designs. Maybe it's the varnished mahogany rudder & tiller that add a bit of cool yachtiness. Who knows. But even power boaters can recognize a good boat. Chris Campbell

Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat

Rodney G. Johnson2013-07-26 20:23 UTC
Paul, I'd answer that those same 5 miles are different every day in a sailboat! A power boater would get bored only because they cover that 5 miles in less than 10 minutes, then what do you do?? Well, I guess run back at the same speed? They traverse the same distance in 20 minutes as we enjoy for the whole day! It is true that to a power boater, the destination is important..... to us sailors, the journey is just as important as the destination.... and we might not even have a real "destination"...... I've enjoyed a lot of "sails to nowhere" in my lifetime! On the other hand..... we also have a small, 14' powerboat with a 9.9hp outboard, top speed is around 15 knots (versus the screaming top speed off the wind of my DS II, of 7.25 knots) and although I can still enjoy a trip to nowhere.... I really tend to desire an actual destination while out in that boat. The secret to enjoying a typical sailboat-style voyage, is to run at a more sailboat speed (if conditions permit) and it can actually be a lot of fun slowing down. What really get on my nerves though..... is how slow I need to go to obey "No Wake" zones in the little powerboat! Our old CAL 21 could go faster under power (and a LOT faster under sail!) without creating a wake than the little powerboat can! I started out solo boating as a 12 year-old in a 8' plywood pram pushed by a 2hp outboard, our cove was my "ocean" and I could spend all day exploring the area. I fished a lot, and that filled many a day. Years later, after moving up to a 12' sailboat for 7 years, I rescued a 14' powerboat off the marsh with dreams of exploring distant harbors like we used to in my Grandfather's 18' Lyman. Problem was..... the waves that my little 12' sailboat bobbed over effortlessly.....were spray producing obstacles for a 14' powerboat.... and our little cove was awfully small when I couldn't brave those seas. A 17' sailboat took care of that... and I enjoy sailing to farther ports than the powerboat can go to (except on calm days....... that is when the powerboat shines!!) I was lucky to sell the little powerboat to my Dad, so I can still play with motorboating on windless days. However, even that "huge" 17' sailboat lets me enjoy the cove for longer than the powerboat! Maybe because the powerboat goes where ever you point her..... a sailboat has to deal with wind direction to go anywhere, hence it is more challenging! Even our cove is different on every tack while sailing........yet becomes boring too quickly in a powerboat. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 Occaisional user of "EXPLORER" 1970? Chrysler Cadet runabout, converted to custom dayboat w/9.9 hp outboard (1 gph average fuel consumption!) On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 12:42:32 -0400 (EDT) pw… [at] aol.com writes: I heard one powerboater say to a sailor "Don't you ever get tired of seeing the same 5 miles of the Bay?" Paul From: Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) [USA] (ASE) <hu… [at] bah.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Jul 26, 2013 12:38 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat Power boat statement: We are going to St. Michaels for lunch. Sailboat statement: We are going sailing. It is more in the journey instead of the destination. Don�t even need a destination. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Sobel Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:26 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [External] Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat Chris, yes, that and the good smilage that a small sailboat affords. It's because, when it comes to boating, getting there is most of the fun! Jerry From: Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 8:08 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat I'm preaching to the choir here, but still can't resist. Last night I sailed off the mooring for my evening sail and passed a power runabout with a few people aboard. "Hey, nice boat!" they shouted. Ol' Cal 20 #1220 is the smallest boat in the mooring field, and her lines have none of the Euro-flash styling that seems to be required in all new designs. Maybe it's the varnished mahogany rudder & tiller that add a bit of cool yachtiness. Who knows. But even power boaters can recognize a good boat. Chris Campbell New Diet Pill Sales Soar New &#39fast acting&#39 diet pill flying off shelves amidst consumer frenzy http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/51f2daf7bbef25af74114st04duc

Re: [Cal_Boats] Nice boat

Rodney G. Johnson2013-07-26 20:41 UTC
Chris, didn't you know that a "fishing vessel" has the "Right-of-way" over a sailboat?? Sure does! And I always try to give way to a lobsterboat hauling traps, or if I ever crossed paths with a dragger with nets out, since that is what "FISHING VESSEL" refers to in the NavRules. I have a friend (powerboater) who bellyaches that "all sailboats" think they have the right of way "ALL THE TIME", and unfortunately he is correct far too often. However, the other type of boater who only seems to have learned one rule of the road is the guy out trolling........ they think that they are "Fishing" and so have the right-of-way, but the truth is..... they are POWERBOATS not "fishing" boats and so, must maneuver just as any other powerboat and give way to a sailboat under sail, well, unless the sailboat is overtaking them, that is one of the VERY few times that we sailors must give way to a powerboat. Another is if the powerboat is towing a disabled vessel or is in some way (other than trolling lines!) unable to alter course easily. I too have been amazed (or is it frightened?) by how many power boaters will SPEED UP and turn to pass ahead of a sailboat (contrary to the rule that states that when crossing the path of a "stand-on" vessel one must turn to pass ASTERN of that vessel, power or sail)...... Far too often, just as they pass across my bow..... I get a sudden puff of wind that increases my speed and results in making the situation worse. I too marvel at how they will make a major course change to cross my bow when a small course change in the opposite direction would safely take them across my stern. What disturbs me even more is the number of times that I have had a SAILBOAT under power do this! When I am under sail!! You would expect that a fellow sailor would have more respect for another sailor..... but, too often they are as bad as "stinkpotters". Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 15:53:43 -0400 Chris Campbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> writes: On 7/26/2013 2:52 PM, r good wrote: Am I the only one who notices that far and away the majority of power boats approaching a sailboat will do there best to cross in front of the sailboat, even if it takes them on a longer course to their destination? Absolutely true. Last weekend I was powering out in a dredged channel in my other boat. I wanted to move from the stbd. side of the channel to the port side so I could raise sail in the open water on that side of the channel. I made a distinct course change so it could be seen and recognized. There was a power boat approaching at a substantial distance, so far that at his speed I would be out of the channel by the time he approached my boat. But instead of remaining in the channel and passing behind me, he made an increasing course correction so he could pass across my bow, even though it meant leaving the channel to do so! Bizarre. And about a month ago in the same boat a sport fisherman dragging trolling lines did the same thing when I was under sail in open water--crossed my bow so his boat was on one side an his planer boards on the other side, even though he could have made a tiny correction in his course and passed safely behind me. It's almost like some kamikaze urge for those guys. It sorta worked for that guy--one of his lines snagged for a few moments on my boat and he was all agitated, waving his arms. Afterward, I tried to figure out what he had expected. Turn one way, I hit his boat. Turn the other way, I hit his equipment. Maybe he expected me to reverse course. Maybe he did not know the right of way rules or understand the functioning of vessels under sail. Or maybe he was just dumb as a post. Then there are the power boats that make the huge roar, the ones you can hear miles away. But that's clearly a case of small penis syndrome. Chris Campbell New Diet Pill Sales Soar New &#39fast acting&#39 diet pill flying off shelves amidst consumer frenzy http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/51f2df649b1855f646eeast02duc