12 messages2013-08-05 14:00 UTCthrough 2013-08-17 20:36 UTC
Hatch crazing....replacements ??
Leslie Newman2013-08-05 14:00 UTC
New owner of a Cal 33-2. So, all of the cabin hatches up top are badly
crazed. Does anyone know of a place to purchase replacement for the glass?
Or a company that will replace the glass? I figure it must be some sort of
Plexiglass. Any company sell replacement hatches? What have other owners
done? I have heard talk that these hatches are known to be subject to
crazing. Mine are extremely crazed. They look as if they could burst into
small pieces.
Thanks
Leslie
Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
Leslie Newman2013-08-05 14:32 UTC
Another question regarding hatches.....what size are my Lewmar hatches?
There are three, all different sizes. Two on top, a larger on front. I
found http://www.hatchmasters.com and http://www.selectplastics.com. I'm
not sure what size hatches I am dealing with on my boat.
Thanks,
Leslie
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Leslie Newman <d2… [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> New owner of a Cal 33-2. So, all of the cabin hatches up top are badly
> crazed. Does anyone know of a place to purchase replacement for the glass?
> Or a company that will replace the glass? I figure it must be some sort of
> Plexiglass. Any company sell replacement hatches? What have other owners
> done? I have heard talk that these hatches are known to be subject to
> crazing. Mine are extremely crazed. They look as if they could burst into
> small pieces.
> Thanks
> Leslie
>
>
RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
Ted Wrobel2013-08-05 15:20 UTC
Hi Leslie,
I had to replace the forward hatch on my 988 Cal 33 when a "helper" fell on
it and cracked the plastic.
I decided to just purchase a new hatch. Here is the Defender part info:
900528 Bomar Low Profile Performance Hatch
Price was about $400. I left the original frame installed and replaced the
opening parts.
There are a couple of places that will either sell you the acrylic panel or
replace it for you, one in Connecticut and one in Florida.
Replacing the panel was going to cost around $200 and take several weeks. I
didn't want to put up with the leaks for that long. Lense itself was around
$70, I think.
Note that I think the hatch on my boat was replaced in 2004 so it may not be
the same as the original.
If you Google Bowmar lens replace you will find more than you wanted to
know! Basically you will want to send them the hatch (lens part) and have
them either remake the acrylic, maybe install it.
You will find lots of info for replacing it yourself, but it is not a task
to be undertaken lightly. Great care in the removal, cleaning, choice of
sealant and assembly are required. Might be worth the learning curve if you
are doing more than one hatch.
Good Luck,
Ted Wrobel
Cal 33 Celebration
Newport, RI
Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
Al Waschka2013-08-05 15:43 UTC
Can't help you with the sizes until I go to the boat, but I had replacement glazing made for my non-opening ports in the main cabin. They and, I suspect, all the other hatches except for the marine portlights, are made of Lexan (polycarbonate). I got mine made at my local glass company. I pulled the original glazing (it was leaking anyway) and took it to them for patterns. For the non-opening ports, the glazing is installed with an adhesive tape that cures upon being compressed. You have to come up with a way to compress it and hold it for 24 hours or so. Simplest thing is probably to pull the hatches and take them to a glass company and have them remove the original Lexan and replace it.
Al
From: Leslie Newman <d2… [at] gmail.com>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 10:32 AM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
Another question regarding hatches.....what size are my Lewmar hatches? There are three, all different sizes. Two on top, a larger on front. I found http://www.hatchmasters.com and http://www.selectplastics.com. I'm not sure what size hatches I am dealing with on my boat.
Thanks,
Leslie
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Leslie Newman <d2… [at] gmail.com> wrote:
New owner of a Cal 33-2. So, all of the cabin hatches up top are badly crazed. Does anyone know of a place to purchase replacement for the glass? Or a company that will replace the glass? I figure it must be some sort of Plexiglass. Any company sell replacement hatches? What have other owners done? I have heard talk that these hatches are known to be subject to crazing. Mine are extremely crazed. They look as if they could burst into small pieces.
>Thanks
>Leslie
>
>
RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
Ted Wrobel2013-08-05 15:52 UTC
Generally the glazing is acrylic, not polycarbonate (Lexan).
Lexan has a much higher coefficient of expansion and thus is much more
likely to cause the seal to fail due to temperature changes.
If polycarbonate is used a much wider flexible sealant is needed.
Ted
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From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Al Waschka
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 11:43 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
Can't help you with the sizes until I go to the boat, but I had replacement
glazing made for my non-opening ports in the main cabin. They and, I
suspect, all the other hatches except for the marine portlights, are made of
Lexan (polycarbonate). I got mine made at my local glass company. I pulled
the original glazing (it was leaking anyway) and took it to them for
patterns. For the non-opening ports, the glazing is installed with an
adhesive tape that cures upon being compressed. You have to come up with a
way to compress it and hold it for 24 hours or so. Simplest thing is
probably to pull the hatches and take them to a glass company and have them
remove the original Lexan and replace it.
Al
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
Leslie Newman2013-08-05 18:11 UTC
Thanks to all for the replies. I am a do it yourself kind of person. I
might try to obtain the materials and fix them myself. I've cut lexan and
such on my small bandsaw before with good results. Sounds like I need
acrylic material and some luck.
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Ted Wrobel <tw… [at] tacticaltech.com>wrote:
> **
>
>
> **
> Generally the glazing is acrylic, not polycarbonate (Lexan).
>
> Lexan has a much higher coefficient of expansion and thus is much more
> likely to cause the seal to fail due to temperature changes.
>
> If polycarbonate is used a much wider flexible sealant is needed.
>
> Ted
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Al Waschka
> *Sent:* Monday, August 05, 2013 11:43 AM
> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
>
>
>
> Can't help you with the sizes until I go to the boat, but I had
> replacement glazing made for my non-opening ports in the main cabin. They
> and, I suspect, all the other hatches except for the marine portlights, are
> made of Lexan (polycarbonate). I got mine made at my local glass company.
> I pulled the original glazing (it was leaking anyway) and took it to them
> for patterns. For the non-opening ports, the glazing is installed with an
> adhesive tape that cures upon being compressed. You have to come up with a
> way to compress it and hold it for 24 hours or so. Simplest thing is
> probably to pull the hatches and take them to a glass company and have them
> remove the original Lexan and replace it.
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
Al Waschka2013-08-05 18:48 UTC
Thanks for the clarification re: acrylic. That may be what I got as I was relying on my memory which isn't what it once was.
If you can dig out the original material a glass shop can probably cut new acrylic inserts for you and sell you the proper adhesive to mount them.
Al
On Aug 5, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Leslie Newman <d2… [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks to all for the replies. I am a do it yourself kind of person. I might try to obtain the materials and fix them myself. I've cut lexan and such on my small bandsaw before with good results. Sounds like I need acrylic material and some luck.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Ted Wrobel <tw… [at] tacticaltech.com> wrote:
>
>
> Generally the glazing is acrylic, not polycarbonate (Lexan).
>
> Lexan has a much higher coefficient of expansion and thus is much more likely to cause the seal to fail due to temperature changes.
>
> If polycarbonate is used a much wider flexible sealant is needed.
>
> Ted
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Al Waschka
> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 11:43 AM
> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
>
>
> Can't help you with the sizes until I go to the boat, but I had replacement glazing made for my non-opening ports in the main cabin. They and, I suspect, all the other hatches except for the marine portlights, are made of Lexan (polycarbonate). I got mine made at my local glass company. I pulled the original glazing (it was leaking anyway) and took it to them for patterns. For the non-opening ports, the glazing is installed with an adhesive tape that cures upon being compressed. You have to come up with a way to compress it and hold it for 24 hours or so. Simplest thing is probably to pull the hatches and take them to a glass company and have them remove the original Lexan and replace it.
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
>
> No virus found in this message.
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
Leslie Newman2013-08-05 20:22 UTC
I think I'll attempt the smaller hatch that way and see how it goes.
Probably the biggest problem is keeping out the elements while I have the
hatch removed.
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Al Waschka <aw… [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
> **
>
>
> Thanks for the clarification re: acrylic. That may be what I got as I was
> relying on my memory which isn't what it once was.
>
> If you can dig out the original material a glass shop can probably cut new
> acrylic inserts for you and sell you the proper adhesive to mount them.
>
>
> Al
>
> On Aug 5, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Leslie Newman <d2… [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks to all for the replies. I am a do it yourself kind of person. I
> might try to obtain the materials and fix them myself. I've cut lexan and
> such on my small bandsaw before with good results. Sounds like I need
> acrylic material and some luck.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Ted Wrobel <tw… [at] tacticaltech.com>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> **
>> Generally the glazing is acrylic, not polycarbonate (Lexan).
>>
>> Lexan has a much higher coefficient of expansion and thus is much more
>> likely to cause the seal to fail due to temperature changes.
>>
>> If polycarbonate is used a much wider flexible sealant is needed.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Al Waschka
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 05, 2013 11:43 AM
>> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
>>
>>
>>
>> Can't help you with the sizes until I go to the boat, but I had
>> replacement glazing made for my non-opening ports in the main cabin. They
>> and, I suspect, all the other hatches except for the marine portlights, are
>> made of Lexan (polycarbonate). I got mine made at my local glass company.
>> I pulled the original glazing (it was leaking anyway) and took it to them
>> for patterns. For the non-opening ports, the glazing is installed with an
>> adhesive tape that cures upon being compressed. You have to come up with a
>> way to compress it and hold it for 24 hours or so. Simplest thing is
>> probably to pull the hatches and take them to a glass company and have them
>> remove the original Lexan and replace it.
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> No virus found in this message.
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>>
>>
>
>
RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
Ted Wrobel2013-08-05 20:30 UTC
Hi Leslie,
Simple solution is a piece of 1/2 inch plywood over the hatch opening. Foam
tape (door seal) can be used to form a gasket. -Mark the ply from below,
stick foam tape along that line.
A couple of cross pieces inside (I used a diagonal at each corner) and a
screw thru both make a semi-permanent cover. And, it's cheap!
Ted
Cal 33 Celebration
Newport
_____
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Leslie Newman
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 4:23 PM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
I think I'll attempt the smaller hatch that way and see how it goes.
Probably the biggest problem is keeping out the elements while I have the
hatch removed.
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Al Waschka <aw… [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
Thanks for the clarification re: acrylic. That may be what I got as I was
relying on my memory which isn't what it once was.
If you can dig out the original material a glass shop can probably cut new
acrylic inserts for you and sell you the proper adhesive to mount them.
Al
On Aug 5, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Leslie Newman <d2… [at] gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks to all for the replies. I am a do it yourself kind of person. I might
try to obtain the materials and fix them myself. I've cut lexan and such on
my small bandsaw before with good results. Sounds like I need acrylic
material and some luck.
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Ted Wrobel <tw… [at] tacticaltech.com>
wrote:
Generally the glazing is acrylic, not polycarbonate (Lexan).
Lexan has a much higher coefficient of expansion and thus is much more
likely to cause the seal to fail due to temperature changes.
If polycarbonate is used a much wider flexible sealant is needed.
Ted
_____
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Al Waschka
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 11:43 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
Can't help you with the sizes until I go to the boat, but I had replacement
glazing made for my non-opening ports in the main cabin. They and, I
suspect, all the other hatches except for the marine portlights, are made of
Lexan (polycarbonate). I got mine made at my local glass company. I pulled
the original glazing (it was leaking anyway) and took it to them for
patterns. For the non-opening ports, the glazing is installed with an
adhesive tape that cures upon being compressed. You have to come up with a
way to compress it and hold it for 24 hours or so. Simplest thing is
probably to pull the hatches and take them to a glass company and have them
remove the original Lexan and replace it.
Al
_____
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Hatch crazing....replacements ??
Donald C Dutton2013-08-16 17:50 UTC
I have successfully used cardboard cut 1/2" larger than the hatch and covered with heavy plastic purchased from a hardware store and then taped to the boat with good quality duct tape each time I have transported the boat. This method has kept the hatches from being damaged by road debris and kept any water out of the boat when being transported at 70mph through all kinds of weather. All was easily removed as the duct tape glue residue didn't "age" much during a one week trailer trip. The cardboard and plastic are all easily cut to size with a pocket knife.
Don Dutton
1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution"
On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Ted Wrobel wrote:
>
> Hi Leslie,
>
> Simple solution is a piece of 1/2 inch plywood over the hatch opening. Foam tape (door seal) can be used to form a gasket. -Mark the ply from below, stick foam tape along that line.
>
> A couple of cross pieces inside (I used a diagonal at each corner) and a screw thru both make a semi-permanent cover. And, it's cheap!
>
> Ted
> Cal 33 Celebration
> Newport
>
> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Leslie Newman
> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 4:23 PM
> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
>
>
>
> I think I'll attempt the smaller hatch that way and see how it goes. Probably the biggest problem is keeping out the elements while I have the hatch removed.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Al Waschka <aw… [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the clarification re: acrylic. That may be what I got as I was relying on my memory which isn't what it once was.
>
> If you can dig out the original material a glass shop can probably cut new acrylic inserts for you and sell you the proper adhesive to mount them.
>
>
> Al
>
> On Aug 5, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Leslie Newman <d2… [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Thanks to all for the replies. I am a do it yourself kind of person. I might try to obtain the materials and fix them myself. I've cut lexan and such on my small bandsaw before with good results. Sounds like I need acrylic material and some luck.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Ted Wrobel <tw… [at] tacticaltech.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Generally the glazing is acrylic, not polycarbonate (Lexan).
>>
>> Lexan has a much higher coefficient of expansion and thus is much more likely to cause the seal to fail due to temperature changes.
>>
>> If polycarbonate is used a much wider flexible sealant is needed.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Al Waschka
>> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 11:43 AM
>> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
>>
>>
>>
>> Can't help you with the sizes until I go to the boat, but I had replacement glazing made for my non-opening ports in the main cabin. They and, I suspect, all the other hatches except for the marine portlights, are made of Lexan (polycarbonate). I got mine made at my local glass company. I pulled the original glazing (it was leaking anyway) and took it to them for patterns. For the non-opening ports, the glazing is installed with an adhesive tape that cures upon being compressed. You have to come up with a way to compress it and hold it for 24 hours or so. Simplest thing is probably to pull the hatches and take them to a glass company and have them remove the original Lexan and replace it.
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3209/6052 - Release Date: 08/05/13
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3209/6052 - Release Date: 08/05/13
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Hatch crazing....replacements ??
Helen Horn2013-08-17 04:28 UTC
I'd like to add, if you use Lexan, it is directional in that one side is the correct one for the exterior surface. Helen
From: Donald C Dutton <dn… [at] comcast.net>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Cc: Donald C Dutton <dn… [at] comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hatch crazing....replacements ??
I have successfully used cardboard cut 1/2" larger than the hatch and covered with heavy plastic purchased from a hardware store and then taped to the boat with good quality duct tape each time I have transported the boat. This method has kept the hatches from being damaged by road debris and kept any water out of the boat when being transported at 70mph through all kinds of weather. All was easily removed as the duct tape glue residue didn't "age" much during a one week trailer trip. The cardboard and plastic are all easily cut to size with a pocket knife.
Don Dutton
1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution"
On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Ted Wrobel wrote:
>
>
>Hi
Leslie,
>
>Simple
solution is a piece of 1/2 inch plywood over the hatch opening. Foam tape (door
seal) can be used to form a gasket. -Mark the ply from below, stick foam tape
along that line.
>
>A
couple of cross pieces inside (I used a diagonal at each corner) and a screw
thru both make a semi-permanent cover. And, it's cheap!
>
>Ted
>Cal 33
Celebration
>Newport
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Leslie
Newman
>Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 4:23 PM
>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch
crazing....replacements ??
>
>
>
>
>I think I'll attempt the smaller hatch that way and see how it
goes. Probably the biggest problem is keeping out the elements while I have the
hatch removed.
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Al Waschka <aw… [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks for the clarification re: acrylic. That may be what I got as I was relying on my memory which isn't what it once was.
>>
>>
>>If you can dig out the original material a glass shop can probably cut new acrylic inserts for you and sell you the proper adhesive to mount them.
>>
>>
>>
>>Al
>>
>>On Aug 5, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Leslie Newman <d2… [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks to all for the replies. I am a do it yourself kind of person. I might try to obtain the materials and fix them myself. I've cut lexan and such on my small bandsaw before with good results. Sounds like I need acrylic material and some luck.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Ted Wrobel <tw… [at] tacticaltech.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Generally the glazing is acrylic, not polycarbonate (Lexan).
>>>>
>>>>Lexan has a much higher coefficient of expansion and thus is much more likely to cause the seal to fail due to temperature changes.
>>>>
>>>>If polycarbonate is used a much wider flexible sealant is needed.
>>>>
>>>>Ted
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Al Waschka
>>>>Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 11:43 AM
>>>>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
>>>>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Can't help you with the sizes until I go to the boat, but I had replacement glazing made for my non-opening ports in the main cabin. They and, I suspect, all the other hatches except for the marine portlights, are made of Lexan (polycarbonate). I got mine made at my local glass company. I pulled the original glazing (it was leaking anyway) and took it to them for patterns. For the non-opening ports, the glazing is installed with an adhesive tape that cures upon being compressed. You have to come up with a way to compress it and hold it for 24 hours or so. Simplest thing is probably to pull the hatches and take them to a glass company and have them remove the original Lexan and replace it.
>>>>
>>>>Al
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>>
>>>>No virus found in this message.
>>>>Checked
by AVG - www.avg.com
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3209/6052 - Release Date: 08/05/13
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Hatch crazing....replacements ??
Leslie Newman2013-08-17 20:36 UTC
Thanks to all for the feedback. I haven't tackled the hatches yet, though
it is on my short list. The boat is new to us and we are enjoying
discovering everything about her. The boat has been very well cared for
over the years. But of course there are little things that need attending
to. So far I've sewn a new wheel cover, replaced a cracked thru hull drain
in the bottom of one of the cockpit storage compartments, Re-stitched some
of the settee cushions, cleaned out (then cleaned) inside the cockpit
locker on the port side, replaced some hose clamps. Little things that just
keep her in top condition. They called for rain last Sunday but we went out
anyway. Just sailed out to the bay and then back into the river. Then just
tacking back and forth enjoying the day. Never rained a drop.
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> **
>
>
> I'd like to add, if you use Lexan, it is directional in that one side is
> the correct one for the exterior surface. Helen
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Donald C Dutton <dn… [at] comcast.net>
> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> *Cc:* Donald C Dutton <dn… [at] comcast.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2013 10:50 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Hatch crazing....replacements ??
>
>
> I have successfully used cardboard cut 1/2" larger than the hatch and
> covered with heavy plastic purchased from a hardware store and then taped
> to the boat with good quality duct tape each time I have transported the
> boat. This method has kept the hatches from being damaged by road debris
> and kept any water out of the boat when being transported at 70mph through
> all kinds of weather. All was easily removed as the duct tape glue residue
> didn't "age" much during a one week trailer trip. The cardboard and
> plastic are all easily cut to size with a pocket knife.
>
> Don Dutton
> 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution"
>
> On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Ted Wrobel wrote:
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>
>
> Hi Leslie,
>
> Simple solution is a piece of 1/2 inch plywood over the hatch opening.
> Foam tape (door seal) can be used to form a gasket. -Mark the ply from
> below, stick foam tape along that line.
>
> A couple of cross pieces inside (I used a diagonal at each corner) and a
> screw thru both make a semi-permanent cover. And, it's cheap!
>
> Ted
> Cal 33 Celebration
> Newport
>
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> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Leslie Newman
> *Sent:* Monday, August 05, 2013 4:23 PM
> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
>
>
>
> I think I'll attempt the smaller hatch that way and see how it goes.
> Probably the biggest problem is keeping out the elements while I have the
> hatch removed.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Al Waschka <aw… [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> **
>
>
> Thanks for the clarification re: acrylic. That may be what I got as I was
> relying on my memory which isn't what it once was.
>
> If you can dig out the original material a glass shop can probably cut new
> acrylic inserts for you and sell you the proper adhesive to mount them.
>
>
> Al
>
> On Aug 5, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Leslie Newman <d2… [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks to all for the replies. I am a do it yourself kind of person. I
> might try to obtain the materials and fix them myself. I've cut lexan and
> such on my small bandsaw before with good results. Sounds like I need
> acrylic material and some luck.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Ted Wrobel <tw… [at] tacticaltech.com>wrote:
>
> **
>
> **
> Generally the glazing is acrylic, not polycarbonate (Lexan).
>
> Lexan has a much higher coefficient of expansion and thus is much more
> likely to cause the seal to fail due to temperature changes.
>
> If polycarbonate is used a much wider flexible sealant is needed.
>
> Ted
>
>
>
>
>
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> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Al Waschka
> *Sent:* Monday, August 05, 2013 11:43 AM
> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Hatch crazing....replacements ??
>
>
>
> Can't help you with the sizes until I go to the boat, but I had
> replacement glazing made for my non-opening ports in the main cabin. They
> and, I suspect, all the other hatches except for the marine portlights, are
> made of Lexan (polycarbonate). I got mine made at my local glass company.
> I pulled the original glazing (it was leaking anyway) and took it to them
> for patterns. For the non-opening ports, the glazing is installed with an
> adhesive tape that cures upon being compressed. You have to come up with a
> way to compress it and hold it for 24 hours or so. Simplest thing is
> probably to pull the hatches and take them to a glass company and have them
> remove the original Lexan and replace it.
>
> Al
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