Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 3-30 vs 2-29

Totally different animals. The 3-30 is a IOR design with a fractional rig. Might be better comparing the Cal 9.2 and the 3-30. Randy Cal 2-29 Out Patient Channel Islands Ca sa… [at] gmail.com wrote: Beyond just comparing spec's, does anyone have any first hand knowledge of how these two boats compare? I have a 2-29, I might be interested in a 3-30. thanks, East coast Cal 29 sailor

Cal 3-30 is an ior design but it is not factional. It's a mast head rig. It is keel stepped mast, it has a bolt on keel vs the molded in one, it is wider and deeper and it's fairly heavy for it length, but seems to be reasonable quick for it's size. I know they are different. Just looking for someone who has had some tiller time. from what I have read, people that haven't sailed them tend to make claims about how they sail that people who have owned them tend to refute. I am interested in things like feel on the helm(how heavy is it), how does it track down wind, tendency to broach, how comfortable is the normal sitting position(assuming it's up on the coaming, sailing from an tiller extension). Light air vs heavy air performance and so on. Jim, Cal 29 sailor. On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Randy <sa… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > Totally different animals. > > The 3-30 is a IOR design with a fractional rig. > > Might be better comparing the Cal 9.2 and the 3-30. > > > Randy > Cal 2-29 > Out Patient > Channel Islands Ca > > > Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G > > > > sa… [at] gmail.com wrote: > > > > > Beyond just comparing spec's, does anyone have any first hand knowledge of > how these two boats compare? I have a 2-29, I might be interested in a > 3-30. > > thanks, > East coast Cal 29 sailor > > >

The Cal 9.2 is a Ron Holland design licenced from Jenneau , the 3-30 was the last lapworth design evolution. again significant differences. On 9/27/2013 5:41 PM, Randy wrote: > > Totally different animals. > > > The 3-30 is a IOR design with a fractional rig. > > Might be better comparing the Cal 9.2 and the 3-30. > > > Randy > Cal 2-29 > Out Patient > Channel Islands Ca > > > Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G > > > > sa… [at] gmail.com wrote: > > > Beyond just comparing spec's, does anyone have any first hand > knowledge of how these two boats compare? I have a 2-29, I might be > interested in a 3-30. > > thanks, > East coast Cal 29 sailor > >

I know of some folks who want to sell a race rigged 2-30. That would better compare to the 29. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 5:42 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [External] Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 3-30 vs 2-29 Totally different animals. The 3-30 is a IOR design with a fractional rig. Might be better comparing the Cal 9.2 and the 3-30. Randy Cal 2-29 Out Patient Channel Islands Ca sa… [at] gmail.com wrote: Beyond just comparing spec's, does anyone have any first hand knowledge of how these two boats compare? I have a 2-29, I might be interested in a 3-30. thanks, East coast Cal 29 sailor

I crewed on RAMPAGE a Cal 2-30 for the MORA races in 1978. An excellent heavy air boat, very good out in the ocean. On 9/27/2013 7:16 PM, Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) wrote: > > I know of some folks who want to sell a race rigged 2-30. That would > better compare to the 29. > > Cheers > > Charlie > > *From:*Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *On Behalf Of *Randy > *Sent:* Friday, September 27, 2013 5:42 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [External] Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 3-30 vs 2-29 > > > > Totally different animals. > > The 3-30 is a IOR design with a fractional rig. > > Might be better comparing the Cal 9.2 and the 3-30. > > Randy > > Cal 2-29 > > Out Patient > > Channel Islands Ca > > > Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G > > > > > sa… [at] gmail.com wrote: > > > Beyond just comparing spec's, does anyone have any first hand > knowledge of how these two boats compare? I have a 2-29, I might be > interested in a 3-30. > > thanks, > East coast Cal 29 sailor > > > > >

Sorry, It's the 3-30 I am interested in. I Don't mean to offend any 2-30 or 9.2 lovers out there, they are just not on my radar at the moment. Jim Cal 29 Sailor. On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 8:21 PM, roline <ro… [at] charter.net> wrote: > ** > > > I crewed on RAMPAGE a Cal 2-30 for the MORA races in 1978. An excellent > heavy air boat, very good out in the ocean. > > > > > On 9/27/2013 7:16 PM, Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) wrote: > > > > I know of some folks who want to sell a race rigged 2-30. That would > better compare to the 29.**** > > ** ** > > Cheers**** > > Charlie**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>] > *On Behalf Of *Randy > *Sent:* Friday, September 27, 2013 5:42 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [External] Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 3-30 vs 2-29**** > > ** ** > > > > Totally different animals.**** > > ** ** > > The 3-30 is a IOR design with a fractional rig. **** > > ** ** > > Might be better comparing the Cal 9.2 and the 3-30.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Randy**** > > Cal 2-29**** > > Out Patient**** > > Channel Islands Ca > > > Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G **** > > > > > sa… [at] gmail.com wrote: > > > **** > > Beyond just comparing spec's, does anyone have any first hand knowledge of > how these two boats compare? I have a 2-29, I might be interested in a > 3-30. > > thanks, > East coast Cal 29 sailor**** > > > > > **** > > **** > > > >