9 messages2013-10-05 03:42 UTCthrough 2013-10-06 02:44 UTC
Re: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
pw… [at] aol.com2013-10-05 03:42 UTC
Jill -
If you hire a pro captain make sure you give them a window and not specific
dates that you want the boat delivered so they can adjust their schedule
around weather. I have a long story that I can tell you but bottom line is
my first boat suffered a lot of damage even though we gave them a window,
but they chose to leave anyway. I cancelled my check(s) to them btw.
Also, make sure your insurance covers the delivery.
Do get out and race as all have advised. Ask questions when appropriate
and watch and listen. Not all captains and crew are good teachers though so
ask around about who can help the most. There are a lot of Jekyll and
Hyde captains too. Super nice on shore and total a-holes on the water.
Good luck -
Paul
(on the east coast or I'd help)
In a message dated 10/4/2013 9:35:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
tm… [at] yahoo.com writes:
Jill,
Congrats on being a new CAL owner. How about hiring a professional
captain, and making the trip also? Would be a great learning experience. He
would want a couple of experienced crew also, but probably the best way, as
you're inexperienced. Don't trust your boat/investment to just anyone.
Then take some sailing lessons, crew on a racing boat, and learn. I say
racing boat because you will learn more about sailing and boat handling from
that in a shorter time than just going out cruising with friends Been there,
done that.
Good Luck!
David Dobbs, CAL29 411, former racing crew
From: JILL COOPER <ve… [at] hotmail.com>
To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 8:19 PM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
Hi All,
I just bought a 34' Cal and I live in Chula Vista (just south of San
Diego). The boat is currently in Marina Del Rey, and ready to bring down here.
I have a slip ready at the CYM and everything. I don't yet know how to
sail, and I had some friends who were supposed to sail it down for me this
weekend. Unfortunately, they no longer are available, and I need to find
someone else (not necessarily for this weekend, but sometime soon). I am
planning on doing the liveaboard thing, and I need it down here as soon as
possible. It has a diesel westerbeak engine in good working condition, it just
had a rigging tune-up, and it just had some repairs at the yard, so it's
all good to go. Would anyone be willing to help me out? Or do you know
anyone who could do this for me? It's about 200 miles, which I've been told
would be a 2 day sail. It could be a fun adventure for someone :) I could
pay you if it is a reasonable amount, or compensate you with beer, food,
diesel, and my unending thanks. Please let me know,
Thanks!
~Jill Cooper~
(425) 445-5175 cell
"In the end, we will conserve only what we love.
We will love only what we understand.
We will understand only what we are taught."
-Baba Dioum
Re: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
Randy2013-10-05 05:20 UTC
What ever happened to (..)?
She moved to San Diego as well.
Randy
David Owen <dw… [at] me.com> wrote:
David has the right idea. Crewing on a race boat is a wonderful learning experience, and easy to find a boat that will take inexperienced crew.
This made me think about our young friend Matthew as a delivery skipper. Where did he end up?
Wilkie
On Oct 4, 2013, at 6:35 PM, david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
Jill,
Congrats on being a new CAL owner. How about hiring a professional captain, and making the trip also? Would be a great learning experience. He would want a couple of experienced crew also, but probably the best way, as you're inexperienced. Don't trust your boat/investment to just anyone. Then take some sailing lessons, crew on a racing boat, and learn. I say racing boat because you will learn more about sailing and boat handling from that in a shorter time than just going out cruising with friends Been there, done that.
Good Luck!
David Dobbs, CAL29 411, former racing crew
From: JILL COOPER <ve… [at] hotmail.com>
To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 8:19 PM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
Hi All,
I just bought a 34' Cal and I live in Chula Vista (just south of San Diego). The boat is currently in Marina Del Rey, and ready to bring down here. I have a slip ready at the CYM and everything. I don't yet know how to sail, and I had some friends who were supposed to sail it down for me this weekend. Unfortunately, they no longer are available, and I need to find someone else (not necessarily for this weekend, but sometime soon). I am planning on doing the liveaboard thing, and I need it down here as soon as possible. It has a diesel westerbeak engine in good working condition, it just had a rigging tune-up, and it just had some repairs at the yard, so it's all good to go. Would anyone be willing to help me out? Or do you know anyone who could do this for me? It's about 200 miles, which I've been told would be a 2 day sail. It could be a fun adventure for someone :) I could pay you if it is a reasonable amount, or compensate you with beer, food, diesel, and my unending thanks. Please let me know,
Thanks!
~Jill Cooper~
(425) 445-5175 cell
"In the end, we will conserve only what we love.
We will love only what we understand.
We will understand only what we are taught."
-Baba Dioum
Re: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
Randy2013-10-05 05:28 UTC
Hi Jill,
The trip should only be about 80 from Catalina of I remember or 100 miles from MDR. You can leave early (2ish) and be there in zhe evening if you motor.
This is the best time of year to make the trip.
Randy
JILL COOPER <ve… [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,
I just bought a 34' Cal and I live in Chula Vista (just south of San Diego). The boat is currently in Marina Del Rey, and ready to bring down here. I have a slip ready at the CYM and everything. I don't yet know how to sail, and I had some friends who were supposed to sail it down for me this weekend. Unfortunately, they no longer are available, and I need to find someone else (not necessarily for this weekend, but sometime soon). I am planning on doing the liveaboard thing, and I need it down here as soon as possible. It has a diesel westerbeak engine in good working condition, it just had a rigging tune-up, and it just had some repairs at the yard, so it's all good to go. Would anyone be willing to help me out? Or do you know anyone who could do this for me? It's about 200 miles, which I've been told would be a 2 day sail. It could be a fun adventure for someone :) I could pay you if it is a reasonable amount, or compensate you with beer, food, diesel, and my unending thanks. Please let me know,
Thanks!
~Jill Cooper~
(425) 445-5175 cell
"In the end, we will conserve only what we love.
We will love only what we understand.
We will understand only what we are taught."
-Baba Dioum
RE: Help with boat transport?
th… [at] hotmail.com2013-10-05 12:41 UTC
Jill,
Suggestions--- Post an ad in the crew wanted section of "Latiude 38" magazine or the equivalent So California magazine (I forgot the name). These magazines can be found free at West Marine stores. Put an advertisement on the bulletin boards at the marinas in both ends of your trip. Ask to post ads at all the yacht clubs at both ends of your trip. One word of caution--- ask for references of anyone offering to help -- and then do check their references. I have heard stories (rare) of someone crewing with a hired or volunteer captain having a miserable time due to personality of the captain. I live in Seattle area or I would be glad to help. The flight cost to So California and time off work would be too much for me.
Greg
S/V Evania (swift and Seren)
Cal 31, Anacortes, WA
---In ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <saylorran@...> wrote:
Hi Jill,
The trip should only be about 80 from Catalina of I remember or 100 miles from MDR. You can leave early (2ish) and be there in zhe evening if you motor.
This is the best time of year to make the trip.
Randy
JILL COOPER <veggijill@...> wrote:
Hi All, I just bought a 34' Cal and I live in Chula Vista (just south of San Diego). The boat is currently in Marina Del Rey, and ready to bring down here. I have a slip ready at the CYM and everything. I don't yet know how to sail, and I had some friends who were supposed to sail it down for me this weekend. Unfortunately, they no longer are available, and I need to find someone else (not necessarily for this weekend, but sometime soon). I am planning on doing the liveaboard thing, and I need it down here as soon as possible. It has a diesel westerbeak engine in good working condition, it just had a rigging tune-up, and it just had some repairs at the yard, so it's all good to go. Would anyone be willing to help me out? Or do you know anyone who could do this for me? It's about 200 miles, which I've been told would be a 2 day sail. It could be a fun adventure for someone :) I could pay you if it is a reasonable amount, or compensate you with beer, food, diesel, and my unending thanks. Please let me know, Thanks!
~Jill Cooper~
(425) 445-5175 cell
"In the end, we will conserve only what we love.
We will love only what
we understand.
We will understand only what we are taught."
- Baba Dioum
Re: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
David Owen2013-10-05 18:45 UTC
Sabrina? Are you still out there?
Wilkie
> On Oct 4, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Randy <sa… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
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> What ever happened to (..)?
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> She moved to San Diego as well.
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> Randy
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> Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G
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> David Owen <dw… [at] me.com> wrote:
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> David has the right idea. Crewing on a race boat is a wonderful learning experience, and easy to find a boat that will take inexperienced crew.
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> This made me think about our young friend Matthew as a delivery skipper. Where did he end up?
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> Wilkie
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Oct 4, 2013, at 6:35 PM, david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Jill,
>> Congrats on being a new CAL owner. How about hiring a professional captain, and making the trip also? Would be a great learning experience. He would want a couple of experienced crew also, but probably the best way, as you're inexperienced. Don't trust your boat/investment to just anyone. Then take some sailing lessons, crew on a racing boat, and learn. I say racing boat because you will learn more about sailing and boat handling from that in a shorter time than just going out cruising with friends Been there, done that.
>> Good Luck!
>> David Dobbs, CAL29 411, former racing crew
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>> From: JILL COOPER <ve… [at] hotmail.com>
>> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 8:19 PM
>> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>> I just bought a 34' Cal and I live in Chula Vista (just south of San Diego). The boat is currently in Marina Del Rey, and ready to bring down here. I have a slip ready at the CYM and everything. I don't yet know how to sail, and I had some friends who were supposed to sail it down for me this weekend. Unfortunately, they no longer are available, and I need to find someone else (not necessarily for this weekend, but sometime soon). I am planning on doing the liveaboard thing, and I need it down here as soon as possible. It has a diesel westerbeak engine in good working condition, it just had a rigging tune-up, and it just had some repairs at the yard, so it's all good to go. Would anyone be willing to help me out? Or do you know anyone who could do this for me? It's about 200 miles, which I've been told would be a 2 day sail. It could be a fun adventure for someone :) I could pay you if it is a reasonable amount, or compensate you with beer, food, diesel, and my unending thanks. Please let me know,
>> Thanks!
>>
>> ~Jill Cooper~
>> (425) 445-5175 cell
>>
>> "In the end, we will conserve only what we love.
>> We will love only what we understand.
>> We will understand only what we are taught."
>> -Baba Dioum
>
>
>
RE: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
JILL COOPER2013-10-06 00:15 UTC
I found a guy! He's leaving Monday AM and should have the boat here Tuesday :D I'm super excited. Hopefully all goes well. His references check out and he's a really nice dude. Thanks all for your recommendations and advice. I will definitely look into crewing for a racing team. That would indeed be a good way to learn how to best sail a boat.
~Jill Cooper~
(425) 445-5175 cell
"In the end, we will conserve only what we love.
We will love only what
we understand.
We will understand only what we are taught."
-Baba Dioum
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
From: dw… [at] me.com
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 11:45:13 -0700
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
Sabrina? Are you still out there?
Wilkie
On Oct 4, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Randy <sa… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
What ever happened to (..)?
She moved to San Diego as well.
Randy
David Owen <dw… [at] me.com> wrote:
David has the right idea. Crewing on a race boat is a wonderful learning experience, and easy to find a boat that will take inexperienced crew.
This made me think about our young friend Matthew as a delivery skipper. Where did he end up?
Wilkie
On Oct 4, 2013, at 6:35 PM, david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
Jill,
Congrats on being a new CAL owner. How about hiring a professional captain, and making the trip also? Would be a great learning experience. He would want a couple of experienced crew also, but probably the best way, as you're inexperienced. Don't trust your boat/investment to just anyone. Then take some sailing lessons, crew on a racing boat, and learn. I say racing boat because you will learn more about sailing and boat handling from that in a shorter time than just going out cruising with friends Been there, done that.
Good Luck!
David Dobbs, CAL29 411, former racing crew
From: JILL COOPER <ve… [at] hotmail.com>
To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 8:19 PM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
Hi All,I just bought a 34' Cal and I live in Chula Vista (just south of San Diego). The boat is currently in Marina Del Rey, and ready to bring down here. I have a slip ready at the CYM and everything. I don't yet know how to sail, and I had some friends who were supposed to sail it down for me this weekend. Unfortunately, they no longer are available, and I need to find someone else (not necessarily for this weekend, but sometime soon). I am planning on doing the liveaboard thing, and I need it down here as soon as possible. It has a diesel westerbeak engine in good working condition, it just had a rigging tune-up, and it just had some repairs at the yard, so it's all good to go. Would anyone be willing to help me out? Or do you know anyone who could do this for me? It's about 200 miles, which I've been told would be a 2 day sail. It could be a fun adventure for someone :)
I could pay you if it is a reasonable amount, or compensate you with beer, food, diesel, and my unending thanks. Please let me know, Thanks!~Jill Cooper~(425) 445-5175 cell"In the end, we will conserve only what we love. We will love only what
we understand. We will understand only what we are taught." -Baba Dioum
RE: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE)2013-10-06 00:34 UTC
Hi, Jill. A thing to remember. Finding faithful crew is hard for skippers these days. If you sign on to a racing boat (and you like the people and the action), skippers are willing to trade training for faithfulness. You need to keep coming out for the races. Nothing worse for a skipper than people who kinda sorta wana show up. A stable crew is important.
Cheers
Charlie
Annapolis
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JILL COOPER
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:16 PM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: [External] RE: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
I found a guy! He's leaving Monday AM and should have the boat here Tuesday :D I'm super excited. Hopefully all goes well. His references check out and he's a really nice dude. Thanks all for your recommendations and advice. I will definitely look into crewing for a racing team. That would indeed be a good way to learn how to best sail a boat.
~Jill Cooper~
(425) 445-5175 cell
"In the end, we will conserve only what we love.
We will love only what we understand.
We will understand only what we are taught."
-Baba Dioum
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
From: dw… [at] me.com
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 11:45:13 -0700
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
Sabrina? Are you still out there?
Wilkie
On Oct 4, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Randy <sa… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:sa… [at] yahoo.com>> wrote:
What ever happened to (..)?
She moved to San Diego as well.
Randy
David Owen <dw… [at] me.com<mailto:dw… [at] me.com>> wrote:
David has the right idea. Crewing on a race boat is a wonderful learning experience, and easy to find a boat that will take inexperienced crew.
This made me think about our young friend Matthew as a delivery skipper. Where did he end up?
Wilkie
On Oct 4, 2013, at 6:35 PM, david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:tm… [at] yahoo.com>> wrote:
Jill,
Congrats on being a new CAL owner. How about hiring a professional captain, and making the trip also? Would be a great learning experience. He would want a couple of experienced crew also, but probably the best way, as you're inexperienced. Don't trust your boat/investment to just anyone. Then take some sailing lessons, crew on a racing boat, and learn. I say racing boat because you will learn more about sailing and boat handling from that in a shorter time than just going out cruising with friends Been there, done that.
Good Luck!
David Dobbs, CAL29 411, former racing crew
From: JILL COOPER <ve… [at] hotmail.com<mailto:ve… [at] hotmail.com>>
To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>" <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 8:19 PM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
Hi All,
I just bought a 34' Cal and I live in Chula Vista (just south of San Diego). The boat is currently in Marina Del Rey, and ready to bring down here. I have a slip ready at the CYM and everything. I don't yet know how to sail, and I had some friends who were supposed to sail it down for me this weekend. Unfortunately, they no longer are available, and I need to find someone else (not necessarily for this weekend, but sometime soon). I am planning on doing the liveaboard thing, and I need it down here as soon as possible. It has a diesel westerbeak engine in good working condition, it just had a rigging tune-up, and it just had some repairs at the yard, so it's all good to go. Would anyone be willing to help me out? Or do you know anyone who could do this for me? It's about 200 miles, which I've been told would be a 2 day sail. It could be a fun adventure for someone :) I could pay you if it is a reasonable amount, or compensate you with beer, food, diesel, and my unending thanks. Please let me know,
Thanks!
~Jill Cooper~
(425) 445-5175 cell
"In the end, we will conserve only what we love.
We will love only what we understand.
We will understand only what we are taught."
-Baba Dioum
Re: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
Allen Edwards2013-10-06 01:49 UTC
I found a crew recommended by a friend. He has a boat and is knowledgable.
He sends a text message saying he can't make it an hour before the race.
Awkward how I am not going to invite him back. Someone who is excited and
can show up every week and knows nothing is in great demand. In fact, the
guys who know a lot don't want to do what I ask them to do as they know a
better way. The more of the crew I train that are on board, the faster we
are. I could not agree with Charlie more.
Allen
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) <
hu… [at] bah.com> wrote:
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> Hi, Jill. A thing to remember. Finding faithful crew is hard for
> skippers these days. If you sign on to a racing boat (and you like the
> people and the action), skippers are willing to trade training for
> faithfulness. You need to keep coming out for the races. Nothing worse
> for a skipper than people who kinda sorta wana show up. A stable crew is
> important.****
>
> ** **
>
> Cheers****
>
> Charlie****
>
> Annapolis****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *JILL COOPER
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:16 PM
> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [External] RE: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?****
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> ** **
>
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> ****
>
> I found a guy! He's leaving Monday AM and should have the boat here
> Tuesday :D I'm super excited. Hopefully all goes well. His references
> check out and he's a really nice dude. Thanks all for your recommendations
> and advice. I will definitely look into crewing for a racing team. That
> would indeed be a good way to learn how to best sail a boat.
>
> *~Jill Cooper~*
> (425) 445-5175 cell****
>
> *"In the end, we will conserve only what we love.
> We will love only what we understand.
> We will understand only what we are taught." *
> -Baba Dioum****
>
> ** **
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> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> From: dw… [at] me.com
> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 11:45:13 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
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> Sabrina? Are you still out there?****
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> Wilkie
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> Sent from my iPad****
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> On Oct 4, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Randy <sa… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:****
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> What ever happened to (..)?****
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> She moved to San Diego as well.****
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> Randy****
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> David Owen <dw… [at] me.com> wrote:
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> David has the right idea. Crewing on a race boat is a wonderful learning
> experience, and easy to find a boat that will take inexperienced crew. **
> **
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> This made me think about our young friend Matthew as a delivery skipper.
> Where did he end up? ****
>
> ** **
>
> Wilkie
>
> Sent from my iPad****
>
>
> On Oct 4, 2013, at 6:35 PM, david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:****
>
> Jill,
> Congrats on being a new CAL owner. How about hiring a professional
> captain, and making the trip also? Would be a great learning experience.
> He would want a couple of experienced crew also, but probably the best way,
> as you're inexperienced. Don't trust your boat/investment to just anyone.
> Then take some sailing lessons, crew on a racing boat, and learn. I say
> racing boat because you will learn more about sailing and boat handling
> from that in a shorter time than just going out cruising with friends Been
> there, done that.
> Good Luck!
> David Dobbs, CAL29 411, former racing crew****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* JILL COOPER <ve… [at] hotmail.com>
> *To:* "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 4, 2013 8:19 PM
> *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?****
>
> ** **
>
> ****
>
> Hi All,****
>
> I just bought a 34' Cal and I live in Chula Vista (just south of San
> Diego). The boat is currently in Marina Del Rey, and ready to bring down
> here. I have a slip ready at the CYM and everything. I don't yet know how
> to sail, and I had some friends who were supposed to sail it down for me
> this weekend. Unfortunately, they no longer are available, and I need to
> find someone else (not necessarily for this weekend, but sometime soon). I
> am planning on doing the liveaboard thing, and I need it down here as soon
> as possible. It has a diesel westerbeak engine in good working condition,
> it just had a rigging tune-up, and it just had some repairs at the yard, so
> it's all good to go. Would anyone be willing to help me out? Or do you
> know anyone who could do this for me? It's about 200 miles, which I've
> been told would be a 2 day sail. It could be a fun adventure for someone :)
> I could pay you if it is a reasonable amount, or compensate you with
> beer, food, diesel, and my unending thanks. Please let me know, ****
>
> Thanks!
>
> *~Jill Cooper~*
> (425) 445-5175 cell****
>
> *"In the end, we will conserve only what we love.
> We will love only what we understand.
> We will understand only what we are taught." *
> -Baba Dioum****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
>
>
>
> ****
>
> ****
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
david dobbs2013-10-06 02:44 UTC
Allen,
Well spoken. In my racing career, only four full years I was there every race. That's what you sign on for. And you learn how to sail in nasty conditions, when the cruisers stay at the dock. I remember the first time I trimmed the chute, after watching another crew, and being told, "When in doubt, let it out", and never cleat the sheet, trim, trim, trim. I must have been okay because I never got told again, but jibes were the scary thing, but we had a really good foredeck guy, did the dip-pole method. Boat is an Erickson 35 with a huge chute. They have lots of silver since my days, and a longtime crew. I really learned a lot racing those years, and had a lot of fun. Now I sit on the committee boat and score them as they finish. Not complaining, I like the committee boat, a big Hatteras with twin engines that gets us back very quickly after we finish everyone.
David Dobbs, CAL29 411
From: Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com>
To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
I found a crew recommended by a friend. He has a boat and is knowledgable. He sends a text message saying he can't make it an hour before the race. Awkward how I am not going to invite him back. Someone who is excited and can show up every week and knows nothing is in great demand. In fact, the guys who know a lot don't want to do what I ask them to do as they know a better way. The more of the crew I train that are on board, the faster we are. I could not agree with Charlie more.
Allen
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) <hu… [at] bah.com> wrote:
>
>Hi, Jill. A thing to remember. Finding faithful crew is hard for skippers these days. If you sign on to a racing boat (and you like the people and the action), skippers are willing to trade training for faithfulness. You need to keep coming out for the races. Nothing worse for a skipper than people who kinda sorta wana show up. A stable crew is important.
>
>Cheers
>Charlie
>Annapolis
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>From:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JILL COOPER
>Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:16 PM
>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [External] RE: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
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>I found a guy! He's leaving Monday AM and should have the boat here Tuesday :D I'm super excited. Hopefully all goes well. His references check out and he's a really nice dude. Thanks all for your recommendations and advice. I will definitely look into crewing for a racing team. That would indeed be a good way to learn how to best sail a boat.
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>~Jill Cooper~
>(425) 445-5175 cell
>"In the end, we will conserve only what we love.
>We will love only what we understand.
>We will understand only what we are taught."
>-Baba Dioum
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>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
>From: dw… [at] me.com
>Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 11:45:13 -0700
>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
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>Sabrina? Are you still out there?
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>Wilkie
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>On Oct 4, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Randy <sa… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>What ever happened to (..)?
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>>She moved to San Diego as well.
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>>David Owen <dw… [at] me.com> wrote:
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>>David has the right idea. Crewing on a race boat is a wonderful learning experience, and easy to find a boat that will take inexperienced crew.
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>>This made me think about our young friend Matthew as a delivery skipper. Where did he end up?
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>>Wilkie
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>>On Oct 4, 2013, at 6:35 PM, david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Jill,
>>>Congrats on being a new CAL owner. How about hiring a professional captain, and making the trip also? Would be a great learning experience. He would want a couple of experienced crew also, but probably the best way, as you're inexperienced. Don't trust
your boat/investment to just anyone. Then take some sailing lessons, crew on a racing boat, and learn. I say racing boat because you will learn more about sailing and boat handling from that in a shorter time than just going out cruising with friends Been
there, done that.
>>>Good Luck!
>>>David Dobbs, CAL29 411, former racing crew
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>>>From:JILL COOPER <ve… [at] hotmail.com>
>>>To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
>>>Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 8:19 PM
>>>Subject: [Cal_Boats] Help with boat transport?
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>>>Hi All,
>>>I just bought a 34' Cal and I live in Chula Vista (just south of San Diego). The boat is currently in Marina Del Rey, and ready to bring down here. I have a slip ready at the CYM and everything. I don't yet know how to sail, and I had some friends who were supposed to sail it down for me this weekend. Unfortunately, they no longer are available, and I need to find someone else (not necessarily for this weekend, but sometime soon). I am planning on doing the liveaboard thing, and I need it down here as soon as possible. It has a diesel westerbeak engine in good working condition, it just had a rigging tune-up, and it just had some repairs at the yard, so it's all good to go. Would anyone be willing to help me out? Or do you know anyone who could do this for me? It's about 200 miles, which I've been told would be a 2 day sail. It could be a fun adventure for someone :) I could pay you if it is a reasonable amount, or compensate you
with beer, food, diesel, and my unending thanks. Please let me know,
>>>Thanks!
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>>>~Jill Cooper~
>>>(425) 445-5175 cell
>>>"In the end, we will conserve only what we love.
>>>We will love only what we understand.
>>>We will understand only what we are taught."
>>>-Baba Dioum
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