Re: [Cal_Boats] Fw: Referred by Mexonline.com

Mark the hull id number on the transom and paint the atea fpr build up Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: >Hi guys can you help? our crew member Nick is in > >San Pedro on "SUNDOWNER" Cal 36 #3 ...he wants to sail >his boat to Texas (Freeport) via Panama ...edward(helen) > > >----- Forwarded Message ----- >From: Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> >To: "co… [at] sre.gob.mx" <co… [at] sre.gob.mx>; Nicholas Halkowski <nh… [at] gmail.com>; LaDonna Bubak <la… [at] latitude38.com> >Cc: blindcopy <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> >Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 11:35 AM >Subject: Referred by Mexonline.com > > > >Hello ...We have a friend traveling from San Pedro to Texas >via Panama canal by boat...we have learned that some >boats are NOT able to leave docks in MEXICO ..If they do not >have Hull I.D. # (All boat made before 1974 do not have >hull numbers in the same places as after 1974 and later) >His boat is a 1967 hull ID #3...but is not ingraved into >the hull as the post 1974 models ..however the cabinets >and drawers are Clearly Marked #3 Cal36....their is >a time problem and he would like leave 15th/Jan/2014 >but dose not want "Boat to be impounded by Mexico" > Please Help call or e-mail my # 650 771 1945 Edward >I'M including link to Lat38 which has their Boat also >impounded (can NOT leave DOCK!) > > > >www.latitude38.com/lectronic/LectronicLat.lasso.check out ....its like hotel calif ...you can never leave > >THANKS for a speedy replay WE remain standing-by > edward stancil PICYA Rep. Peninsula Yacht Club > Redwood City .Calif >Helen Horn & Edward Stancil Members in GOOD STANDING > Sequoia Yacht Club > > Redwood City . Calif 94063 >EMAIL<he… [at] sbcglobal.net> > >WE Have a Sister Ship "CALIENTE" Cal36 #60

All states that require titles do this for any boat without a Manufacturer HIN, it isn't really a "made up" HIN, the state-issued HIN is just as official as an original manufacturer HIN, it is however... just a serial number per se, no real meaning to the number, that is no coded info usually. I'm not sure whether a Documented vessel would have a state-issued (or maybe Federally issued?) HIN, since in many states the Federal Documentation takes the place of a title on a documented vessel. Anyway, we were issued a state-issued HIN for our old CAL 21 in 1991 if I recall when Massachusetts issued us a title (my Dad had owned the boat since new in 1970) and obviously, they needed a HIN for the title (CAL 21 Hull #285 wasn't enough to ID the boat). Ditto for the old powerboat (13'8" outboard) that I rescued off the marsh near our cottage. When I registered that boat a HIN was assigned by Massachusetts. All State-issued HINs start with the State abbreviation used for the registration numbers (MS in Mass) followed by a "Z" then 9 more digits. Some States will use the build year of the boat for the last 2 digits, most don't. The State-issued HIN is supposed to be marked permanently on the transom as well as another hidden spot, just like the manufacturer HIN. One correction to the original posting, The USCG required HINs (Manufacturer issued using USCG code) were required starting on November 1. 1972, basically that means 1973 models and later, not 1974. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 15:38:10 -0500 Mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> writes: When I registered my 67 cal-20, the state (fl) assigned a made-up hin on the certificate of title and registration. Maybe he can engrave this number onto his transom, if he has a similar number issued by California? I would offer the number up as an example, but am far away from paperwork. Good luck! Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: Hi guys can you help? our crew member Nick is in San Pedro on "SUNDOWNER" Cal 36 #3 ...he wants to sail his boat to Texas (Freeport) via Panama ...edward(helen) ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> To: "co… [at] sre.gob.mx" <co… [at] sre.gob.mx>; Nicholas Halkowski <nh… [at] gmail.com>; LaDonna Bubak <la… [at] latitude38.com> Cc: blindcopy <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 11:35 AM Subject: Referred by Mexonline.com Hello ...We have a friend traveling from San Pedro to Texas via Panama canal by boat...we have learned that some boats are NOT able to leave docks in MEXICO ..If they do not have Hull I.D. # (All boat made before 1974 do not have hull numbers in the same places as after 1974 and later) His boat is a 1967 hull ID #3...but is not ingraved into the hull as the post 1974 models ..however the cabinets and drawers are Clearly Marked #3 Cal36....their is a time problem and he would like leave 15th/Jan/2014 but dose not want "Boat to be impounded by Mexico" Please Help call or e-mail my # 650 771 1945 Edward I'M including link to Lat38 which has their Boat also impounded (can NOT leave DOCK!) www.latitude38.com/lectronic/LectronicLat.lasso. check out ....its like hotel calif ...you can never leave THANKS for a speedy replay WE remain standing-by edward stancil PICYA Rep. Peninsula Yacht Club Redwood City .Calif Helen Horn & Edward Stancil Members in GOOD STANDING Sequoia Yacht Club Redwood City . Calif 94063 EMAIL<he… [at] sbcglobal.net> WE Have a Sister Ship "CALIENTE" Cal36 #60 -- Do THIS before eating carbs &#40;every time&#41; 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/52cf86a777c196a73973st03duc

Great answer! Thanks! "Rodney G. Johnson" <rj… [at] juno.com> wrote: >All states that require titles do this for any boat without a >Manufacturer HIN, it isn't really a "made up" HIN, the state-issued HIN >is just as official as an original manufacturer HIN, it is however... >just a serial number per se, no real meaning to the number, that is no >coded info usually. >I'm not sure whether a Documented vessel would have a state-issued (or >maybe Federally issued?) HIN, since in many states the Federal >Documentation takes the place of a title on a documented vessel. >Anyway, >we were issued a state-issued HIN for our old CAL 21 in 1991 if I >recall >when Massachusetts issued us a title (my Dad had owned the boat since >new >in 1970) and obviously, they needed a HIN for the title (CAL 21 Hull >#285 >wasn't enough to ID the boat). Ditto for the old powerboat (13'8" >outboard) that I rescued off the marsh near our cottage. When I >registered that boat a HIN was assigned by Massachusetts. All >State-issued HINs start with the State abbreviation used for the >registration numbers (MS in Mass) followed by a "Z" then 9 more digits. >Some States will use the build year of the boat for the last 2 digits, >most don't. The State-issued HIN is supposed to be marked permanently >on >the transom as well as another hidden spot, just like the manufacturer >HIN. > >One correction to the original posting, The USCG required HINs >(Manufacturer issued using USCG code) were required starting on >November >1. 1972, basically that means 1973 models and later, not 1974. > >Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" >1979 O'DAY DS II >former co-owner of "NODROG" >1970 CAL 21 #285 > >On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 15:38:10 -0500 Mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> writes: > >When I registered my 67 cal-20, the state (fl) assigned a made-up hin >on >the certificate of title and registration. Maybe he can engrave this >number onto his transom, if he has a similar number issued by >California? >I would offer the number up as an example, but am far away from >paperwork. Good luck! > > >Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >Hi guys can you help? our crew member Nick is in > >San Pedro on "SUNDOWNER" Cal 36 #3 ...he wants to sail >his boat to Texas (Freeport) via Panama ...edward(helen) > > > >----- Forwarded Message ----- >From: Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> >To: "co… [at] sre.gob.mx" <co… [at] sre.gob.mx>; Nicholas Halkowski ><nh… [at] gmail.com>; LaDonna Bubak <la… [at] latitude38.com> >Cc: blindcopy <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> >Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 11:35 AM >Subject: Referred by Mexonline.com > > > >Hello ...We have a friend traveling from San Pedro to Texas >via Panama canal by boat...we have learned that some >boats are NOT able to leave docks in MEXICO ..If they do not >have Hull I.D. # (All boat made before 1974 do not have >hull numbers in the same places as after 1974 and later) >His boat is a 1967 hull ID #3...but is not ingraved into >the hull as the post 1974 models ..however the cabinets >and drawers are Clearly Marked #3 Cal36....their is >a time problem and he would like leave 15th/Jan/2014 >but dose not want "Boat to be impounded by Mexico" > Please Help call or e-mail my # 650 771 1945 Edward >I'M including link to Lat38 which has their Boat also >impounded (can NOT leave DOCK!) > > > >www.latitude38.com/lectronic/LectronicLat.lasso. >check out ....its like hotel calif ...you can never leave > >THANKS for a speedy replay WE remain standing-by > edward stancil PICYA Rep. Peninsula Yacht Club > Redwood City .Calif >Helen Horn & Edward Stancil Members in GOOD STANDING > Sequoia Yacht Club > Redwood City . Calif 94063 >EMAIL<he… [at] sbcglobal.net> > >WE Have a Sister Ship "CALIENTE" Cal36 #60 > > > > > > >-- >Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > >____________________________________________________________ >Do THIS before eating carbs &#40;every time&#41; >1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat >storage >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/52cf86a777c196a73973st03duc --

http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=153822 Has some advice: "So how do you stay off the list? 1) Don't have your boat in Mexico." Allen On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Rodney G. Johnson <rj… [at] juno.com>wrote: > > [Attachment(s) <#1437aa6da7849437_TopText> from Rodney G. Johnson > included below] > > All states that require titles do this for any boat without a > Manufacturer HIN, it isn't really a "made up" HIN, the state-issued HIN is > just as official as an original manufacturer HIN, it is however... just a > serial number per se, no real meaning to the number, that is no coded info > usually. > I'm not sure whether a Documented vessel would have a state-issued (or > maybe Federally issued?) HIN, since in many states the Federal > Documentation takes the place of a title on a documented vessel. Anyway, we > were issued a state-issued HIN for our old CAL 21 in 1991 if I recall when > Massachusetts issued us a title (my Dad had owned the boat since new in > 1970) and obviously, they needed a HIN for the title (CAL 21 Hull #285 > wasn't enough to ID the boat). Ditto for the old powerboat (13'8" outboard) > that I rescued off the marsh near our cottage. When I registered that boat > a HIN was assigned by Massachusetts. All State-issued HINs start with the > State abbreviation used for the registration numbers (MS in Mass) followed > by a "Z" then 9 more digits. Some States will use the build year of the > boat for the last 2 digits, most don't. The State-issued HIN is supposed to > be marked permanently on the transom as well as another hidden spot, just > like the manufacturer HIN. > > One correction to the original posting, The USCG required HINs > (Manufacturer issued using USCG code) were required starting on November 1. > 1972, basically that means 1973 models and later, not 1974. > > Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" > 1979 O'DAY DS II > former co-owner of "NODROG" > 1970 CAL 21 #285 > > On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 15:38:10 -0500 Mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> writes: > > > > When I registered my 67 cal-20, the state (fl) assigned a made-up hin on > the certificate of title and registration. Maybe he can engrave this number > onto his transom, if he has a similar number issued by California? I would > offer the number up as an example, but am far away from paperwork. Good > luck! > > Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi guys can you help? our crew member Nick is in >> San Pedro on "SUNDOWNER" Cal 36 #3 ...he wants to sail >> his boat to Texas (Freeport) via Panama ...edward(helen) >> >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >> *From:* Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> >> *To:* "co… [at] sre.gob.mx" <co… [at] sre.gob.mx>; Nicholas Halkowski < >> nh… [at] gmail.com>; LaDonna Bubak <la… [at] latitude38.com> >> *Cc:* blindcopy <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2014 11:35 AM >> *Subject:* Referred by Mexonline.com >> >> Hello ...We have a friend traveling from San Pedro to Texas >> via Panama canal by boat...we have learned that some >> boats are NOT able to leave docks in MEXICO ..If they do not >> have Hull I.D. # (All boat made before 1974 do not have >> hull numbers in the same places as after 1974 and later) >> His boat is a 1967 hull ID #3...but is not ingraved into >> the hull as the post 1974 models ..however the cabinets >> and drawers are Clearly Marked #3 Cal36....their is >> a time problem and he would like leave 15th/Jan/2014 >> but dose not want "Boat to be impounded by Mexico" >> Please Help call or e-mail my # 650 771 1945 Edward >> I'M including link to Lat38 which has their Boat also >> impounded (can NOT leave DOCK!) >> >> www.latitude38.com/lectronic/LectronicLat.lasso<http://app.streamsend.com/c/20292019/11431/hstZwGP/7fo29z0bu0?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.latitude38.com%2Flectronic%2FLectronicLat.lasso> >> . >> check out ....its like hotel calif ...you can never leave >> >> THANKS for a speedy replay WE remain standing-by >> edward stancil PICYA Rep. Peninsula Yacht Club >> Redwood City .Calif >> Helen Horn & Edward Stancil Members in GOOD STANDING >> Sequoia Yacht Club >> Redwood City . Calif 94063 >> EMAIL<he… [at] sbcglobal.net> >> >> WE Have a Sister Ship "CALIENTE" Cal36 #60 >> >> >> >> > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > *Do THIS before eating carbs (every time)* > 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar decrease fat storage > <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/52cf86a777c196a73973st03duc> > info.fixyourbloodsugar.com<http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/52cf86a777c196a73973st03duc> > > >

More on Mexico. http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/01/10/4600850/us-canadian-boaters-left-in-limbo.html#.Us-STdJdXh4 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com>wrote: > http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=153822 > > > Has some advice: > "So how do you stay off the list? 1) Don't have your boat in Mexico." > > Allen > > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Rodney G. Johnson <rj… [at] juno.com>wrote: > >> >> [Attachment(s) <#1437ad334205df33_1437aa6da7849437_TopText> from Rodney >> G. Johnson included below] >> >> All states that require titles do this for any boat without a >> Manufacturer HIN, it isn't really a "made up" HIN, the state-issued HIN is >> just as official as an original manufacturer HIN, it is however... just a >> serial number per se, no real meaning to the number, that is no coded info >> usually. >> I'm not sure whether a Documented vessel would have a state-issued (or >> maybe Federally issued?) HIN, since in many states the Federal >> Documentation takes the place of a title on a documented vessel. Anyway, we >> were issued a state-issued HIN for our old CAL 21 in 1991 if I recall when >> Massachusetts issued us a title (my Dad had owned the boat since new in >> 1970) and obviously, they needed a HIN for the title (CAL 21 Hull #285 >> wasn't enough to ID the boat). Ditto for the old powerboat (13'8" outboard) >> that I rescued off the marsh near our cottage. When I registered that boat >> a HIN was assigned by Massachusetts. All State-issued HINs start with the >> State abbreviation used for the registration numbers (MS in Mass) followed >> by a "Z" then 9 more digits. Some States will use the build year of the >> boat for the last 2 digits, most don't. The State-issued HIN is supposed to >> be marked permanently on the transom as well as another hidden spot, just >> like the manufacturer HIN. >> >> One correction to the original posting, The USCG required HINs >> (Manufacturer issued using USCG code) were required starting on November 1. >> 1972, basically that means 1973 models and later, not 1974. >> >> Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" >> 1979 O'DAY DS II >> former co-owner of "NODROG" >> 1970 CAL 21 #285 >> >> On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 15:38:10 -0500 Mike <mi… [at] wahini.org> writes: >> >> >> >> When I registered my 67 cal-20, the state (fl) assigned a made-up hin on >> the certificate of title and registration. Maybe he can engrave this number >> onto his transom, if he has a similar number issued by California? I would >> offer the number up as an example, but am far away from paperwork. Good >> luck! >> >> Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi guys can you help? our crew member Nick is in >>> San Pedro on "SUNDOWNER" Cal 36 #3 ...he wants to sail >>> his boat to Texas (Freeport) via Panama ...edward(helen) >>> >>> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >>> *From:* Helen Horn <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> >>> *To:* "co… [at] sre.gob.mx" <co… [at] sre.gob.mx>; Nicholas Halkowski < >>> nh… [at] gmail.com>; LaDonna Bubak <la… [at] latitude38.com> >>> *Cc:* blindcopy <he… [at] sbcglobal.net> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2014 11:35 AM >>> *Subject:* Referred by Mexonline.com >>> >>> Hello ...We have a friend traveling from San Pedro to Texas >>> via Panama canal by boat...we have learned that some >>> boats are NOT able to leave docks in MEXICO ..If they do not >>> have Hull I.D. # (All boat made before 1974 do not have >>> hull numbers in the same places as after 1974 and later) >>> His boat is a 1967 hull ID #3...but is not ingraved into >>> the hull as the post 1974 models ..however the cabinets >>> and drawers are Clearly Marked #3 Cal36....their is >>> a time problem and he would like leave 15th/Jan/2014 >>> but dose not want "Boat to be impounded by Mexico" >>> Please Help call or e-mail my # 650 771 1945 Edward >>> I'M including link to Lat38 which has their Boat also >>> impounded (can NOT leave DOCK!) >>> >>> www.latitude38.com/lectronic/LectronicLat.lasso<http://app.streamsend.com/c/20292019/11431/hstZwGP/7fo29z0bu0?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.latitude38.com%2Flectronic%2FLectronicLat.lasso> >>> . >>> check out ....its like hotel calif ...you can never leave >>> >>> THANKS for a speedy replay WE remain standing-by >>> edward stancil PICYA Rep. Peninsula Yacht Club >>> Redwood City .Calif >>> Helen Horn & Edward Stancil Members in GOOD STANDING >>> Sequoia Yacht Club >>> Redwood City . Calif 94063 >>> EMAIL<he… [at] sbcglobal.net> >>> >>> WE Have a Sister Ship "CALIENTE" Cal36 #60 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> *Do THIS before eating carbs (every time)* >> 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar decrease fat storage >> <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/52cf86a777c196a73973st03duc> >> info.fixyourbloodsugar.com<http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/52cf86a777c196a73973st03duc> >> >> >> > >