Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner

12 messages2014-03-24 22:43 UTCthrough 2014-03-25 21:58 UTC

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner

Rodney G. Johnson2014-03-24 22:43 UTC
What are the "dorados"? I've never heard of that term before. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 On 24 Mar 2014 09:37:56 -0700 <ge… [at] msn.com> writes: I replaced the forward panel of the Headliner on my 1987 Cal 33-2. It was much easier than I thought it would be. I had read that the dorados on Cals were never well glassed and I found this to be true on my boat. I therefore glassed both port and starboard dorados before cutting a new Masonite panel. I used the old warped and degraded panel as a pattern. If you do not have this I suggest a 4x8 sheet of corrugated cardboard to create a pattern. The panels are held in place by the hand holds both sides and the 1 1/2 ish strips that cross the cabin top which screw into wooden blocks that have been glued to the underside of the overhead. Good luck on a project that I had put off for a long time and found to be rather easy and very satisfying once I got the nerve to start on it. Jim O'C Do THIS before eating carbs &#40;every time&#41; 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5330b596ef04c3596297dst03duc

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner

Dan2014-03-24 22:50 UTC
Ventilation scoops. From: Rodney G. Johnson Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 6:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner  What are the "dorados"? I've never heard of that term before. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 On 24 Mar 2014 09:37:56 -0700 <ge… [at] msn.com> writes: I replaced the forward panel of the Headliner on my 1987 Cal 33-2. It was much easier than I thought it would be. I had read that the dorados on Cals were never well glassed and I found this to be true on my boat. I therefore glassed both port and starboard dorados before cutting a new Masonite panel. I used the old warped and degraded panel as a pattern. If you do not have this I suggest a 4x8 sheet of corrugated cardboard to create a pattern. The panels are held in place by the hand holds both sides and the 1 1/2 ish strips that cross the cabin top which screw into wooden blocks that have been glued to the underside of the overhead. Good luck on a project that I had put off for a long time and found to be rather easy and very satisfying once I got the nerve to start on it. Jim O'C Do THIS before eating carbs (every time) 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage info.fixyourbloodsugar.com

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner

Greg Beron2014-03-24 23:04 UTC
Dorado vents or, properly, Dorado Boxes sit underneath those tuba-looking cowl vents. The boxes prevent water from going into the boat through the vents. The name is often used incorrectly for the cowl vents themselves. Greg Cal 29 "Happy Hour" "Rodney G. Johnson" <rj… [at] juno.com> wrote: >What are the "dorados"? I've never heard of that term before. > >Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" >1979 O'DAY DS II >former co-owner of "NODROG" >1970 CAL 21 > >On 24 Mar 2014 09:37:56 -0700 <ge… [at] msn.com> writes: > >I replaced the forward panel of the Headliner on my 1987 Cal 33-2. It was >much easier than I thought it would be. I had read that the dorados on >Cals were never well glassed and I found this to be true on my boat. I >therefore glassed both port and starboard dorados before cutting a new >Masonite panel. I used the old warped and degraded panel as a pattern. If >you do not have this I suggest a 4x8 sheet of corrugated cardboard > to create a pattern. > > >The panels are held in place by the hand holds both sides and the 1 1/2 >ish strips that cross the cabin top which screw into wooden blocks that >have been glued to the underside of the overhead. > > >Good luck on a project that I had put off for a long time and found to be >rather easy and very satisfying once I got the nerve to start on it. > > >Jim O'C > > >____________________________________________________________ >Do THIS before eating carbs &#40;every time&#41; >1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5330b596ef04c3596297dst03duc

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner

Rodney G. Johnson2014-03-24 23:28 UTC
Those are "DORADE" vents, so-called because they were (allegedly?) first used on the famous S&S yawl, "DORADE" I kind-of thought that was what you meant, but wasn't sure. A "dorado" is a fish, also known as a dolphin, but no relation to the marine mammal by that name. for anyone unfamiliar with Dorade-style vents (or Dorade boxes as they are also known), they are usually a cowl vent mounted atop a box on the cabin top, the box allows the vent to be off-set from the hole or tube that goes through the cabin top (or deck) so any water that gets in the vent will drain out of holes along the side of the dorade box instead of "pouring" below. Many newer boats actually have these integrated into the deck instead of mounted on top of the deck. Pretty neat! Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 16:04:28 -0700 Greg Beron <gb… [at] yahoo.com> writes: Dorado vents or, properly, Dorado Boxes sit underneath those tuba-looking cowl vents. The boxes prevent water from going into the boat through the vents. The name is often used incorrectly for the cowl vents themselves. Greg Cal 29 "Happy Hour" "Rodney G. Johnson" <rj… [at] juno.com> wrote: ? What are the "dorados"? I've never heard of that term before. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 On 24 Mar 2014 09:37:56 -0700 <ge… [at] msn.com> writes: I replaced the forward panel of the Headliner on my 1987 Cal 33-2. It was much easier than I thought it would be. I had read that the dorados on Cals were never well glassed and I found this to be true on my boat. I therefore glassed both port and starboard dorados before cutting a new Masonite panel. I used the old warped and degraded panel as a pattern. If you do not have this I suggest a 4x8 sheet of corrugated cardboard to create a pattern. The panels are held in place by the hand holds both sides and the 1 1/2 ish strips that cross the cabin top which screw into wooden blocks that have been glued to the underside of the overhead. Good luck on a project that I had put off for a long time and found to be rather easy and very satisfying once I got the nerve to start on it. Jim O'C Do THIS before eating carbs (every time) 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar decrease fat storage info.fixyourbloodsugar.com LifeLock&#174 Services 24/7 Credit Fraud Monitoring Plan. Proactive Credit Fraud Protection. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5330bfd8e86083fd867fbst01duc

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner

mi… [at] yahoo.com2014-03-25 00:07 UTC
"Dorade" rather than "Dorado," named after the 1936 and 2013 Transpac winner http://dorade.org/ http://dorade.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorade_(yacht) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorade_(yacht)

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner

Chris Campbell2014-03-25 13:38 UTC
On 3/24/2014 8:07 PM, mi… [at] yahoo.com wrote: > > > "Dorade" rather than "Dorado," named after the 1936 and 2013 Transpac > winner > http://dorade.org/ > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorade_(yacht) > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorade_%28yacht%29> Here's my vote for helping each other use accurate terms. Sailing is perhaps unique in the number and oddness of its terminology, largely because it has such an extended history. On our local historical schooner, we have a fife rail, and when i was using the rigging model the other evening, I explained where the term comes from. It helps us to have some sense of our history. So also with Dorade, the most famous vessel of her day (the Cal 40 of her day, to be more specific). I get grumpy when I hear people speak of "incidences" when they mean incidents, and of "contingency" fees in my field of work when they mean "contingent" fees. Chris Campbell > > > > >

RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner

Harleigh Ewell2014-03-25 14:19 UTC
Agreed. Here are a few of my favorite mistakes: Coarse for course Gail for gale Healed for heeled Loose for lose Stantion for stanchion Teather for tether Harleigh From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:39 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner On 3/24/2014 8:07 PM, mi… [at] yahoo.com wrote: "Dorade" rather than "Dorado," named after the 1936 and 2013 Transpac winner http://dorade.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorade_(yacht) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorade_%28yacht%29> Here's my vote for helping each other use accurate terms. Sailing is perhaps unique in the number and oddness of its terminology, largely because it has such an extended history. On our local historical schooner, we have a fife rail, and when i was using the rigging model the other evening, I explained where the term comes from. It helps us to have some sense of our history. So also with Dorade, the most famous vessel of her day (the Cal 40 of her day, to be more specific). I get grumpy when I hear people speak of "incidences" when they mean incidents, and of "contingency" fees in my field of work when they mean "contingent" fees. Chris Campbell

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner

Carl2014-03-25 14:27 UTC
And, don't forget the infamous "cutlass" bearing for cutLESS! On 3/25/14, Harleigh Ewell <hp… [at] hpewell.com> wrote: > Agreed. Here are a few of my favorite mistakes: > > > > Coarse for course > > Gail for gale > > Healed for heeled > > Loose for lose > > Stantion for stanchion > > Teather for tether > > > > Harleigh > >

sailing terminology and pet peeves [ was Re: Headliner

Joe DeMers2014-03-25 14:28 UTC
Here's my pet peeve - Calling the stern of the boat the "back". Joe D On 3/25/2014 10:19 AM, Harleigh Ewell wrote: > > > Agreed. Here are a few of my favorite mistakes: > > Coarse for course > > Gail for gale > > Healed for heeled > > Loose for lose > > Stantion for stanchion > > Teather for tether > > Harleigh > > *From:*Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *On Behalf Of *Chris Campbell > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:39 AM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner > > On 3/24/2014 8:07 PM, mi… [at] yahoo.com > <mailto:mi… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > "Dorade" rather than "Dorado," named after the 1936 and 2013 > Transpac winner > > http://dorade.org/ > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorade_(yacht) > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorade_%28yacht%29> > > > Here's my vote for helping each other use accurate terms. Sailing is > perhaps unique in the number and oddness of its terminology, largely > because it has such an extended history. On our local historical > schooner, we have a fife rail, and when i was using the rigging model > the other evening, I explained where the term comes from. It helps us > to have some sense of our history. So also with Dorade, the most > famous vessel of her day (the Cal 40 of her day, to be more specific). > > I get grumpy when I hear people speak of "incidences" when they mean > incidents, and of "contingency" fees in my field of work when they > mean "contingent" fees. > > Chris Campbell > > > > -- *Joe DeMers - owner* Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/>*phone & fax (860) 666-2184*

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner

Rodney G. Johnson2014-03-25 20:22 UTC
And don't forget.... "tiller handle" when they mean TILLER. Can't get over how many times I've heard or read that one. Also: Swing-keel when htey mean Centerboard Full-keel when they mean Deep-fin keel Ceiling, when htey mean Overhead (ceiling on a boat is the covering for the inside of the hull, often cedar strips on a wooden boat) And the funniest one, (maybe caused by spell-check?) Wench, when they mean Winch (well ,at least I think they mean winch?) Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II former co-owner (with Dad) of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:19:10 -0400 "Harleigh Ewell" <hp… [at] hpewell.com> writes: Agreed. Here are a few of my favorite mistakes: Coarse for course Gail for gale Healed for heeled Loose for lose Stantion for stanchion Teather for tether Harleigh From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:39 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner On 3/24/2014 8:07 PM, mi… [at] yahoo.com wrote: "Dorade" rather than "Dorado," named after the 1936 and 2013 Transpac winner http://dorade.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorade_(yacht) Here's my vote for helping each other use accurate terms. Sailing is perhaps unique in the number and oddness of its terminology, largely because it has such an extended history. On our local historical schooner, we have a fife rail, and when i was using the rigging model the other evening, I explained where the term comes from. It helps us to have some sense of our history. So also with Dorade, the most famous vessel of her day (the Cal 40 of her day, to be more specific). I get grumpy when I hear people speak of "incidences" when they mean incidents, and of "contingency" fees in my field of work when they mean "contingent" fees. Chris Campbell Fast-Growing Industry A New Player In The Booming Bottled Water Market. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5331e5c2a199a65c24b96st04duc

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner

drizzlelimu2014-03-25 20:38 UTC
Or "top sides" when they mean on deck. <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: "Rodney G. Johnson" <rj… [at] juno.com> </div><div>Date:03/25/2014 13:22 (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com </div><div>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner </div><div> </div> And don't forget.... "tiller handle" when they mean TILLER. Can't get over how many times I've heard or read that one. Also: Swing-keel when htey mean Centerboard Full-keel when they mean Deep-fin keel Ceiling, when htey mean Overhead (ceiling on a boat is the covering for the inside of the hull, often cedar strips on a wooden boat) And the funniest one, (maybe caused by spell-check?) Wench, when they mean Winch (well ,at least I think they mean winch?) Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II former co-owner (with Dad) of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:19:10 -0400 "Harleigh Ewell" <hp… [at] hpewell.com> writes: Agreed. Here are a few of my favorite mistakes: Coarse for course Gail for gale Healed for heeled Loose for lose Stantion for stanchion Teather for tether Harleigh From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:39 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner On 3/24/2014 8:07 PM, mi… [at] yahoo.com wrote: "Dorade" rather than "Dorado," named after the 1936 and 2013 Transpac winner http://dorade.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorade_(yacht) Here's my vote for helping each other use accurate terms. Sailing is perhaps unique in the number and oddness of its terminology, largely because it has such an extended history. On our local historical schooner, we have a fife rail, and when i was using the rigging model the other evening, I explained where the term comes from. It helps us to have some sense of our history. So also with Dorade, the most famous vessel of her day (the Cal 40 of her day, to be more specific). I get grumpy when I hear people speak of "incidences" when they mean incidents, and of "contingency" fees in my field of work when they mean "contingent" fees. Chris Campbell Fast-Growing Industry A New Player In The Booming Bottled Water Market. AlkameWater.com

Re: Yawl talkin funny

Tom Vandiver2014-03-25 21:58 UTC
I am very happy that some of yawl who live north of Interstate 10 and survived global warming this winter still have your sense of humor. Now we can all get to work on our boats and go play. Here is some proper "Southernese". Bayou is not pronounced by-you, it is bay-o. Tom in Baja Alabama, AKA NW FL From: drizzlelimu <dr… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner Or "top sides" when they mean on deck. From: "Rodney G. Johnson" Date:03/25/2014 13:22 (GMT-08:00) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner  And don't forget.... "tiller handle" when they mean TILLER. Can't get over how many times I've heard or read that one. Also: Swing-keel when htey mean Centerboard Full-keel when they mean Deep-fin keel Ceiling, when htey mean Overhead (ceiling on a boat is the covering for the inside of the hull, often cedar strips on a wooden boat) And the funniest one, (maybe caused by spell-check?) Wench, when they mean Winch (well ,at least I think they mean winch?) Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II former co-owner (with Dad) of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:19:10 -0400 "Harleigh Ewell" <hp… [at] hpewell.com> writes: >Agreed. Here are a few of my favorite mistakes: > >Coarse for course >Gail for gale >Healed for heeled >Loose for lose >Stantion for stanchion >Teather for tether > >Harleigh > >From:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell >Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:39 AM >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Headliner > > >On 3/24/2014 8:07 PM, mi… [at] yahoo.com wrote: >"Dorade" rather than "Dorado," named after the 1936 and 2013 Transpac winner >>http://dorade.org/ >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorade_(yacht) > >Here's my vote for helping each other use accurate terms. Sailing is perhaps unique in the number and oddness of its terminology, largely because it has such an extended history. On our local historical schooner, we have a fife rail, and when i was using the rigging model the other evening, I explained where the term comes from. It helps us to have some sense of our history. So also with Dorade, the most famous vessel of her day (the Cal 40 of her day, to be more specific). > >I get grumpy when I hear people speak of "incidences" when they mean incidents, and of "contingency" fees in my field of work when they mean "contingent" fees. > >Chris Campbell > > > > > > Fast-Growing Industry A New Player In The Booming Bottled Water Market. AlkameWater.com