Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...

I was thinking this would be ideal for 3-D printing. Everything else in modern sailing has gone exotic, so why not. Those sure are cute little hinges. Have not seen those before. Cheers, Anyway Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Edwards Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:10 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [External] Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges... You could make two or have a machinist do it. Brass isn't that hard to machine. Stainless would be difficult. It would only take a bench vice, a hammer, a drill, and a bench grinder. You could not make 5000 that way, but you only need two. Allen On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:02 AM, Michael D <md… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:md… [at] yahoo.com>> wrote: Here are the hinges I ended up with. They are as close as I could find to the original "Cal" style hinges. Variable Overlay Pivot Hinge - Pivot Hinges for Cabinets | HardwareSource.com<http://www.hardwaresource.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=6630> [Image removed by sender. image]<http://www.hardwaresource.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=6630> Variable Overlay Pivot Hinge - Pivot Hinges for Cabinets...<http://www.hardwaresource.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=6630> Most of the products that we stock, are not available in retail stores. Because of this, the products are not packaged for retail end users and instructions are not... View on www.hardwaresource...<http://www.hardwaresource.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=6630> Preview by Yahoo I contacted one of the companies about making a run in SS or brass. I was told they only tool up for 5000 sets at a time. Michael From: Robert Andrew <rh… [at] cornell.edu<mailto:rh… [at] cornell.edu>> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges... Can you post a picture of what you are looking for? On Mar 30, 2014 9:02 PM, "md… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:md… [at] yahoo.com>" <md… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:md… [at] yahoo.com>> wrote: I have been hunting for "Cal" hinges for a decade. No bananas. Right now I have four sets of knife hinges that approximate the originals. It requires modification to the cabinet door cut out slot. During installation, I rub them down with Lanocote to help prevent corrosion. Living in a salt water environment doesn't help. Michael s/v Magic, Cal 2-27 Pompano Beach, FL Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> From: Greg <no… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:no… [at] yahoo.com>>; To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>>; Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges... Sent: Sun, Mar 30, 2014 11:54:56 PM Suncor makes a stainless version but they are very pricey. Brass or steel ones can be purchased at a good hardware store. On Mar 30, 2014, at 3:14 PM, bill plywaski <se… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Friends and Best of Spring Sailing, I would appreciate advice/suggestions on where/how I might find cabinet door hinges (they are rather peculiar) or equivalent replacements for a 1980 Cal-39. Thanks & Fair Winds, Bill

There are "Solid Brass" items, and "Brass-Plated" ones, solid brass is just that.....Brass metal and although not corrosion-proof, they are OK usually in marine applications and can be polished up if tarnished. Brass-plated however, might look like Brass metal but is usually either a thin layer of brass metal plated over steel or on far too many items in the hardware store, it is a thin layer of Brass over zinc. This is not just a marine problem, it also affects restorers of old houses and furniture. Solid Brass will last a lifetime (or more!) and may have a lacquer finish to preserve the bright finish, Brass-plated...... well, it depends on the base metal...... but it will not last long in a wet application, especially on a boat. Brass IS a REAL metal, it is a alloy of copper and zinc (Naval Brass is an alloy of copper and tin, essentially bronze if I recall correctly?) Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 12:05:43 -0700 Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> writes: Even the brass ones you get at most hardware stores are steel. Brass is a color. On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Michael D <md… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: Duane, I think I like the hinges you got more than the ones I ended up with. I see that both styles are steel based, so neither are ideal. Regards, Michael From: Duane Knize <kn… [at] san.rr.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges... Bill, I bought some of these and installed them on the undersink head cabinets on my 1978 Cal2-39. http://www.hardwaresource.com/hinges/CABINET+HINGES/Pivot+Hinges+for+Cabi nets/Semi-Concealed+Pivot+Hinge They are a pretty close replacement. Only required new screw holes and some minor lengthening of the slot for the hinge. Regards, Duane S/V Marlyn 1978 Cal 2-39 #18 On 3/30/2014 3:14 PM, bill plywaski wrote: Hi Friends and Best of Spring Sailing, I would appreciate advice/suggestions on where/how I might find cabinet door hinges (they are rather peculiar) or equivalent replacements for a 1980 Cal-39. Thanks & Fair Winds, Bill Fast-Growing Industry A New Player In The Booming Bottled Water Market. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5339d5a5b0e155a45494st04duc

Amerock BP3428-3 Polished Brass Face Mount Self Closing - 3/8" Inset Hinges These can be found on Amazon and are a dead ringer for the cabinet hinges on my Cal 28. George Barlow Knackered, Cal 28 No. 155 On Mar 31, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Rodney G. Johnson wrote: > > There are "Solid Brass" items, and "Brass-Plated" ones, solid brass is just that.....Brass metal and although not corrosion-proof, they are OK usually in marine applications and can be polished up if tarnished. > Brass-plated however, might look like Brass metal but is usually either a thin layer of brass metal plated over steel or on far too many items in the hardware store, it is a thin layer of Brass over zinc. This is not just a marine problem, it also affects restorers of old houses and furniture. > Solid Brass will last a lifetime (or more!) and may have a lacquer finish to preserve the bright finish, Brass-plated...... well, it depends on the base metal...... but it will not last long in a wet application, especially on a boat. > > Brass IS a REAL metal, it is a alloy of copper and zinc (Naval Brass is an alloy of copper and tin, essentially bronze if I recall correctly?) > > Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" > 1979 O'DAY DS II > former co-owner of "NODROG" > 1970 CAL 21 > > On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 12:05:43 -0700 Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> writes: > > > Even the brass ones you get at most hardware stores are steel. Brass is a color. > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Michael D <md… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Duane, > > I think I like the hinges you got more than the ones I ended up with. I see that both styles are steel based, so neither are ideal. > > Regards, > Michael > > > From: Duane Knize <kn… [at] san.rr.com> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 2:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges... > > > Bill, > > I bought some of these and installed them on the undersink head cabinets on my 1978 Cal2-39. > > http://www.hardwaresource.com/hinges/CABINET+HINGES/Pivot+Hinges+for+Cabinets/Semi-Concealed+Pivot+Hinge > > They are a pretty close replacement. Only required new screw holes and some minor lengthening of the slot for the hinge. > > Regards, > Duane > S/V Marlyn > 1978 Cal 2-39 > #18 > > On 3/30/2014 3:14 PM, bill plywaski wrote: >> >> Hi Friends and Best of Spring Sailing, >> >> I would appreciate advice/suggestions on where/how I might find cabinet door hinges (they are rather peculiar) or equivalent replacements for a 1980 Cal-39. >> >> Thanks & Fair Winds, >> >> Bill > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Fast-Growing Industry > A New Player In The Booming Bottled Water Market. > AlkameWater.com > >