11 messages2014-03-30 22:14 UTCthrough 2014-04-01 05:54 UTC
...about hinges...
bill plywaski2014-03-30 22:14 UTC
Hi Friends and Best of Spring Sailing,
I would appreciate advice/suggestions on where/how I might find cabinet door hinges (they are rather peculiar) or equivalent replacements for a 1980 Cal-39.
Thanks & Fair Winds,
Bill
Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
Greg2014-03-30 23:54 UTC
Suncor makes a stainless version but they are very pricey. Brass or steel ones can be purchased at a good hardware store.
> On Mar 30, 2014, at 3:14 PM, bill plywaski <se… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Friends and Best of Spring Sailing,
>
> I would appreciate advice/suggestions on where/how I might find cabinet door hinges (they are rather peculiar) or equivalent replacements for a 1980 Cal-39.
>
> Thanks & Fair Winds,
>
> Bill
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
md… [at] yahoo.com2014-03-31 01:02 UTC
I have been hunting for "Cal" hinges for a decade. No bananas. Right now I have four sets of knife hinges that approximate the originals. It requires modification to the cabinet door cut out slot. During installation, I rub them down with Lanocote to help prevent corrosion. Living in a salt water environment doesn't help.
Michael
s/v Magic, Cal 2-27
Pompano Beach, FL
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
Robert Andrew2014-03-31 01:07 UTC
Can you post a picture of what you are looking for?
On Mar 30, 2014 9:02 PM, "md… [at] yahoo.com" <md… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I have been hunting for "Cal" hinges for a decade. No bananas. Right now I
> have four sets of knife hinges that approximate the originals. It requires
> modification to the cabinet door cut out slot. During installation, I rub
> them down with Lanocote to help prevent corrosion. Living in a salt water
> environment doesn't help.
>
> Michael
> s/v Magic, Cal 2-27
> Pompano Beach, FL
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android>
>
> ------------------------------
> * From: * Greg <no… [at] yahoo.com>;
> * To: * Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>;
> * Subject: * Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
> * Sent: * Sun, Mar 30, 2014 11:54:56 PM
>
>
>
> Suncor makes a stainless version but they are very pricey. Brass or steel
> ones can be purchased at a good hardware store.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 30, 2014, at 3:14 PM, bill plywaski <se… [at] yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Friends and Best of Spring Sailing,
>
> I would appreciate advice/suggestions on where/how I might find cabinet
> door hinges (they are rather peculiar) or equivalent replacements for a
> 1980 Cal-39.
>
> Thanks & Fair Winds,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
Michael D2014-03-31 13:02 UTC
Here are the hinges I ended up with. They are as close as I could find to the original "Cal" style hinges.
Variable Overlay Pivot Hinge - Pivot Hinges for Cabinets | HardwareSource.com
Variable Overlay Pivot Hinge - Pivot Hinges for Cabinets...
Most of the products that we stock, are not available in retail stores. Because of this, the products are not packaged for retail end users and instructions are not...
View on www.hardwaresource... Preview by Yahoo
I contacted one of the companies about making a run in SS or brass. I was told they only tool up for 5000 sets at a time.
Michael
From: Robert Andrew <rh… [at] cornell.edu>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
Can you post a picture of what you are looking for?
On Mar 30, 2014 9:02 PM, "md… [at] yahoo.com" <md… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>I have been hunting for "Cal" hinges for a decade. No bananas. Right now I have four sets of knife hinges that approximate the originals. It requires modification to the cabinet door cut out slot. During installation, I rub them down with Lanocote to help prevent corrosion. Living in a salt water environment doesn't help.
>Michael
>s/v Magic, Cal 2-27
>Pompano Beach, FL
>Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Greg <no… [at] yahoo.com>;
>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>;
>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
>Sent: Sun, Mar 30, 2014 11:54:56 PM
>
>
>
>Suncor makes a stainless version but they are very pricey. Brass or steel ones can be purchased at a good hardware store.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Mar 30, 2014, at 3:14 PM, bill plywaski <se… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hi Friends and Best of Spring Sailing,
>>
>>
>>I would appreciate advice/suggestions on where/how I might find cabinet door hinges (they are rather peculiar) or equivalent replacements for a 1980 Cal-39.
>>
>>
>>Thanks & Fair Winds,
>>
>>
>>Bill
>>
Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
Allen Edwards2014-03-31 17:10 UTC
You could make two or have a machinist do it. Brass isn't that hard to
machine. Stainless would be difficult. It would only take a bench vice, a
hammer, a drill, and a bench grinder. You could not make 5000 that way,
but you only need two.
Allen
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:02 AM, Michael D <md… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Here are the hinges I ended up with. They are as close as I could find to
> the original "Cal" style hinges.
>
> Variable Overlay Pivot Hinge - Pivot Hinges for Cabinets |
> HardwareSource.com<http://www.hardwaresource.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=6630>
> [image: image]<http://www.hardwaresource.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=6630>
> Variable Overlay Pivot Hinge - Pivot Hinges for Cabinets...<http://www.hardwaresource.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=6630>
> Most of the products that we stock, are not available in retail stores.
> Because of this, the products are not packaged for retail end users and
> instructions are not...
> View on www.hardwaresource...<http://www.hardwaresource.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=6630>
> Preview by Yahoo
>
>
> I contacted one of the companies about making a run in SS or brass. I was
> told they only tool up for 5000 sets at a time.
>
> Michael
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Robert Andrew <rh… [at] cornell.edu>
> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:07 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
>
>
> Can you post a picture of what you are looking for?
> On Mar 30, 2014 9:02 PM, "md… [at] yahoo.com" <md… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I have been hunting for "Cal" hinges for a decade. No bananas. Right now
> I have four sets of knife hinges that approximate the originals. It
> requires modification to the cabinet door cut out slot. During
> installation, I rub them down with Lanocote to help prevent corrosion.
> Living in a salt water environment doesn't help.
> Michael
> s/v Magic, Cal 2-27
> Pompano Beach, FL
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android>
>
> ------------------------------
> * From: * Greg <no… [at] yahoo.com>;
> * To: * Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>;
> * Subject: * Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
> * Sent: * Sun, Mar 30, 2014 11:54:56 PM
>
>
> Suncor makes a stainless version but they are very pricey. Brass or
> steel ones can be purchased at a good hardware store.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 30, 2014, at 3:14 PM, bill plywaski <se… [at] yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Friends and Best of Spring Sailing,
>
> I would appreciate advice/suggestions on where/how I might find cabinet
> door hinges (they are rather peculiar) or equivalent replacements for a
> 1980 Cal-39.
>
> Thanks & Fair Winds,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
Duane Knize2014-03-31 18:16 UTC
Bill,
I bought some of these and installed them on the undersink head cabinets
on my 1978 Cal2-39.
http://www.hardwaresource.com/hinges/CABINET+HINGES/Pivot+Hinges+for+Cabinets/Semi-Concealed+Pivot+Hinge
They are a pretty close replacement. Only required new screw holes and
some minor lengthening of the slot for the hinge.
Regards,
Duane
S/V Marlyn
1978 Cal 2-39
#18
On 3/30/2014 3:14 PM, bill plywaski wrote:
> Hi Friends and Best of Spring Sailing,
>
> I would appreciate advice/suggestions on where/how I might find
> cabinet door hinges (they are rather peculiar) or equivalent
> replacements for a 1980 Cal-39.
>
> Thanks & Fair Winds,
>
> Bill
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
Michael D2014-03-31 18:32 UTC
Duane,
I think I like the hinges you got more than the ones I ended up with. I see that both styles are steel based, so neither are ideal.
Regards,
Michael
From: Duane Knize <kn… [at] san.rr.com>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
Bill,
I bought some of these and installed them on the undersink head
cabinets on my 1978 Cal2-39.
http://www.hardwaresource.com/hinges/CABINET+HINGES/Pivot+Hinges+for+Cabinets/Semi-Concealed+Pivot+Hinge
They are a pretty close replacement. Only required new screw holes
and some minor lengthening of the slot for the hinge.
Regards,
Duane
S/V Marlyn
1978 Cal 2-39
#18
On 3/30/2014 3:14 PM, bill plywaski wrote:
>Hi Friends and Best of Spring Sailing,
>
>
>I would appreciate advice/suggestions on where/how I might find cabinet door hinges (they are rather peculiar) or equivalent replacements for a 1980 Cal-39.
>
>
>Thanks & Fair Winds,
>
>
>Bill
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
Allen Edwards2014-03-31 19:05 UTC
Even the brass ones you get at most hardware stores are steel. Brass is a
color.
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Michael D <md… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Duane,
>
> I think I like the hinges you got more than the ones I ended up with. I
> see that both styles are steel based, so neither are ideal.
>
> Regards,
> Michael
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Duane Knize <kn… [at] san.rr.com>
> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Monday, March 31, 2014 2:16 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
>
>
> Bill,
>
> I bought some of these and installed them on the undersink head cabinets
> on my 1978 Cal2-39.
>
>
> http://www.hardwaresource.com/hinges/CABINET+HINGES/Pivot+Hinges+for+Cabinets/Semi-Concealed+Pivot+Hinge
>
> They are a pretty close replacement. Only required new screw holes and
> some minor lengthening of the slot for the hinge.
>
> Regards,
> Duane
> S/V Marlyn
> 1978 Cal 2-39
> #18
>
> On 3/30/2014 3:14 PM, bill plywaski wrote:
>
>
> Hi Friends and Best of Spring Sailing,
>
> I would appreciate advice/suggestions on where/how I might find cabinet
> door hinges (they are rather peculiar) or equivalent replacements for a
> 1980 Cal-39.
>
> Thanks & Fair Winds,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
Dan2014-03-31 23:50 UTC
If I had a spare knife hinge from a cal 34 I bet I could make one.
From: Allen Edwards
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 3:05 PM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
Even the brass ones you get at most hardware stores are steel. Brass is a color.
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Michael D <md… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
Duane,
I think I like the hinges you got more than the ones I ended up with. I see that both styles are steel based, so neither are ideal.
Regards,
Michael
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From: Duane Knize <kn… [at] san.rr.com>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
Bill,
I bought some of these and installed them on the undersink head cabinets on my 1978 Cal2-39.
http://www.hardwaresource.com/hinges/CABINET+HINGES/Pivot+Hinges+for+Cabinets/Semi-Concealed+Pivot+Hinge
They are a pretty close replacement. Only required new screw holes and some minor lengthening of the slot for the hinge.
Regards,
Duane
S/V Marlyn
1978 Cal 2-39
#18
On 3/30/2014 3:14 PM, bill plywaski wrote:
Hi Friends and Best of Spring Sailing,
I would appreciate advice/suggestions on where/how I might find cabinet door hinges (they are rather peculiar) or equivalent replacements for a 1980 Cal-39.
Thanks & Fair Winds,
Bill
Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
Allen Edwards2014-04-01 05:54 UTC
The best example of a what I thought was a metal being a color was a bronze
wire brush I bought at Lowes. I bought it to clean the surface of my
engine block and was happy to buy the bronze one so I would not scratch the
soft cast iron. Well, bronze was a color and a magnet stuck fast to the
wires. I would bet dollars to donuts that any brass hinge you get at Home
Depot is not brass, just brass plated steel. Like I said, to these guys
brass and bronze are colors. Even on tools that are not in any stretch of
any useful purpose something you would care what color it was. Be careful.
Allen
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Dan <Dr… [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
> If I had a spare knife hinge from a cal 34 I bet I could make one.
>
>
> *From:* Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 31, 2014 3:05 PM
> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
>
>
>
> Even the brass ones you get at most hardware stores are steel. Brass is a
> color.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Michael D <md… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Duane,
>>
>> I think I like the hinges you got more than the ones I ended up with. I
>> see that both styles are steel based, so neither are ideal.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Duane Knize <kn… [at] san.rr.com>
>> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 31, 2014 2:16 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] ...about hinges...
>>
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I bought some of these and installed them on the undersink head cabinets
>> on my 1978 Cal2-39.
>>
>>
>> http://www.hardwaresource.com/hinges/CABINET+HINGES/Pivot+Hinges+for+Cabinets/Semi-Concealed+Pivot+Hinge
>>
>> They are a pretty close replacement. Only required new screw holes and
>> some minor lengthening of the slot for the hinge.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Duane
>> S/V Marlyn
>> 1978 Cal 2-39
>> #18
>>
>> On 3/30/2014 3:14 PM, bill plywaski wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Friends and Best of Spring Sailing,
>>
>> I would appreciate advice/suggestions on where/how I might find cabinet
>> door hinges (they are rather peculiar) or equivalent replacements for a
>> 1980 Cal-39.
>>
>> Thanks & Fair Winds,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>