Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race

Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race

4 messages2014-04-03 16:56 UTCthrough 2014-04-03 23:57 UTC

Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race

pw… [at] aol.com2014-04-03 16:56 UTC
Yeah we love the Miles River Race, just hard getting crew on that weekend. I've been tempted to do the Down the Bay Race as our boat really likes to stretch her legs but have the same issue. We actually beat Doug in the Miles River Race once (my claim to fame LOL). We forced him over the line early which helped but at that time we also had 2 people who had never sailed on our boat before one of which had never sailed so we had 3 regular crew and 2 rookies so we had our issues too ;-). Belle Aurore is a beautiful boat to be sure though. Mike Rajajich (sp?) on Big Time is damn near impossible to beat. We did it once or twice in our CS 30 but haven't done it in the Cal yet. Our problem is that our wed night group doesn't fly spinnaker so when we go to Oxford we have no practice. That'll change this year as we have enough serious racers who want to fly a chute so maybe we can redeem ourselves over there this fall. As far as your boat being too small another friend of mine did it in a CS 30 shoal draft which is what I had (but with the deep keel) before the Cal. It can be done but not that comfortably LOL. Paul In a message dated 4/3/2014 12:36:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, je… [at] comcast.net writes: You speak of Doug J. Know him well as crewed many times with him on the log canoe Island Bird and raced against him on Big Time a Cal 33. Belle Aurora is a beautiful Cal 40. Never have sailed on her. My Cal is too small to even think of a Bermuda race, although my kids talk about it. You aught to think about the Annapolis to Miles River Race in late May. We had 120 boats last year but with 25 to 30 knots NW winds some of then drooped out. We finished 8th out of 15 and ended up the the best corrected time within the Miles River boats. Looking forward to meeting you on he 18th. From: pw… [at] aol.com To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 9:11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race No, but hope to in the next 4 or 5 years. Want to do the Annapolis to Newport race for a tune up first. I may do the Annapolis to Bermuda race instead as a friend of mine who owns the Cal 40 Bell Aurore, said it takes a team of lawyers to enter the Newport to Bermuda race. There is a level of offshore experience required to be captain which he did not meet even though he had quite a bit of offshore experience and had been sailing on the Bay his whole life (he's in his late 30's) so he had to have one of his friends register as captain of his boat. He said the application was ridiculous plus you have to have your boat measured and weighed etc. The Annapolis races aren't that ridiculous so I'm told. Paul -----Original Message----- From: jeepjallade <je… [at] comcast.net> To: Cal Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thu, Apr 3, 2014 7:05 am Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race Have you ever done the Bermuda race on your Cal? From: _p… [at] aol.com_ (mailto:pw… [at] aol.com) To: "Cal Boats" <_C… [at] yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com) > Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 9:46:45 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race Just looked at the list of entrants in the 2014 Newport to Bermuda race and 3 Cal 40's are in it, 2 of them from the Tred Avon Yacht Club, Flyer which was just completely re-done and finished up last Spring and Nicole which was re-fit with a wheel. Surprisingly Sinn Fein, which was totaled in Hurricane Sandy, has been re-built and will be racing as well. Here is a short little article on her. http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2014/03/17/sinn-fein-storm-start-line/ Paul West Adventure Kwest Cal 39

Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race

je… [at] comcast.net2014-04-03 17:28 UTC
Mike is the reason I bought the Cal as after sailing on Big Time for several years, I really like the boat. Mine is a lot heaver but its rig is taller. He skippered mine on a Wed night and beat the whole fleet. We are going to try and make the Annapolis to Oxford race this year and race Big Time boat to boat. This is a big canoe weekend so it all depends on my canoe commitment. Off to do grandchildren. Take care. Jeep From: pw… [at] aol.com To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 12:56:10 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race Yeah we love the Miles River Race, just hard getting crew on that weekend. I've been tempted to do the Down the Bay Race as our boat really likes to stretch her legs but have the same issue. We actually beat Doug in the Miles River Race once (my claim to fame LOL). We forced him over the line early which helped but at that time we also had 2 people who had never sailed on our boat before one of which had never sailed so we had 3 regular crew and 2 rookies so we had our issues too ;-). Belle Aurore is a beautiful boat to be sure though. Mike Rajajich (sp?) on Big Time is damn near impossible to beat. We did it once or twice in our CS 30 but haven't done it in the Cal yet. Our problem is that our wed night group doesn't fly spinnaker so when we go to Oxford we have no practice. That'll change this year as we have enough serious racers who want to fly a chute so maybe we can redeem ourselves over there this fall. As far as your boat being too small another friend of mine did it in a CS 30 shoal draft which is what I had (but with the deep keel) before the Cal. It can be done but not that comfortably LOL. Paul In a message dated 4/3/2014 12:36:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, je… [at] comcast.net writes: You speak of Doug J. Know him well as crewed many times with him on the log canoe Island Bird and raced against him on Big T ime a Cal 33. Belle Aurora is a beautiful Cal 40. Never have sailed on her. My Cal is too small to even think of a Bermuda race, although my kids talk about it. You aught to think about the Annapolis to Miles River Race in late May. We had 120 boats last year but with 25 to 30 knots NW winds some of then drooped out. We finished 8th out of 15 and ended up the the best corrected time within the Miles River boats. Looking forward to meeting you on he 18th. From: pw… [at] aol.com To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 9:11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race No, but hope to in the next 4 or 5 years. Want to do the Annapolis to Newport race for a tune up first. I may do the Annapolis to Bermuda race instead as a friend of mine who owns the Cal 40 Bell Aurore, said it takes a team of lawyers to enter the Newport to Bermuda race. There is a level of offshore experience required to be captain which he did not meet even though he had quite a bit of offshore experience and had been sailing on the Bay his whole life (he's in his late 30's) so he had to have one of his friends register as captain of his boat. He said the application was ridiculous plus you have to have your boat measured and weighed etc. The Annapolis races aren't that ridiculous so I'm told. Paul From: jeepjallade <je… [at] comcast.net> To: Cal Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thu, Apr 3, 2014 7:05 am Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race Have you ever done the Bermuda race on your Cal? From: pw… [at] aol.com To: "Cal Boats" < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 9:46:45 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race Just looked at the list of entrants in the 2014 Newport to Bermuda race and 3 Cal 40's are in it, 2 of them from the Tred Avon Yacht Club, Flyer which was just completely re-done and finished up last Spring and Nicole which was re-fit with a wheel. Surprisingly Sinn Fein, which was totaled in Hurricane Sandy, has been re-built and will be racing as well. Here is a short little article on her. http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2014/03/17/sinn-fein-storm-start-line/ Paul West Adventure Kwest Cal 39

Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race

pw… [at] aol.com2014-04-03 17:40 UTC
Let me know if you are going to do it as we've done that race as well a few times so maybe we can all race boat to boat. We rate 126, Mike is 159 what do you rate? Paul From: jeepjallade <je… [at] comcast.net> To: Cal Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thu, Apr 3, 2014 1:28 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race Mike is the reason I bought the Cal as after sailing on Big Time for several years, I really like the boat. Mine is a lot heaver but its rig is taller. He skippered mine on a Wed night and beat the whole fleet. We are going to try and make the Annapolis to Oxford race this year and race Big Time boat to boat. This is a big canoe weekend so it all depends on my canoe commitment. Off to do grandchildren. Take care. Jeep From: pw… [at] aol.com To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 12:56:10 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race Yeah we love the Miles River Race, just hard getting crew on that weekend. I've been tempted to do the Down the Bay Race as our boat really likes to stretch her legs but have the same issue. We actually beat Doug in the Miles River Race once (my claim to fame LOL). We forced him over the line early which helped but at that time we also had 2 people who had never sailed on our boat before one of which had never sailed so we had 3 regular crew and 2 rookies so we had our issues too ;-). Belle Aurore is a beautiful boat to be sure though. Mike Rajajich (sp?) on Big Time is damn near impossible to beat. We did it once or twice in our CS 30 but haven't done it in the Cal yet. Our problem is that our wed night group doesn't fly spinnaker so when we go to Oxford we have no practice. That'll change this year as we have enough serious racers who want to fly a chute so maybe we can redeem ourselves over there this fall. As far as your boat being too small another friend of mine did it in a CS 30 shoal draft which is what I had (but with the deep keel) before the Cal. It can be done but not that comfortably LOL. Paul In a message dated 4/3/2014 12:36:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, je… [at] comcast.net writes: You speak of Doug J. Know him well as crewed many times with him on the log canoe Island Bird and raced against him on Big Time a Cal 33. Belle Aurora is a beautiful Cal 40. Never have sailed on her. My Cal is too small to even think of a Bermuda race, although my kids talk about it. You aught to think about the Annapolis to Miles River Race in late May. We had 120 boats last year but with 25 to 30 knots NW winds some of then drooped out. We finished 8th out of 15 and ended up the the best corrected time within the Miles River boats. Looking forward to meeting you on he 18th. From: pw… [at] aol.com To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 9:11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race No, but hope to in the next 4 or 5 years. Want to do the Annapolis to Newport race for a tune up first. I may do the Annapolis to Bermuda race instead as a friend of mine who owns the Cal 40 Bell Aurore, said it takes a team of lawyers to enter the Newport to Bermuda race. There is a level of offshore experience required to be captain which he did not meet even though he had quite a bit of offshore experience and had been sailing on the Bay his whole life (he's in his late 30's) so he had to have one of his friends register as captain of his boat. He said the application was ridiculous plus you have to have your boat measured and weighed etc. The Annapolis races aren't that ridiculous so I'm told. Paul -----Original Message----- From: jeepjallade <je… [at] comcast.net> To: Cal Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thu, Apr 3, 2014 7:05 am Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race Have you ever done the Bermuda race on your Cal? From: pw… [at] aol.com To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 9:46:45 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race Just looked at the list of entrants in the 2014 Newport to Bermuda race and 3 Cal 40's are in it, 2 of them from the Tred Avon Yacht Club, Flyer which was just completely re-done and finished up last Spring and Nicole which was re-fit with a wheel. Surprisingly Sinn Fein, which was totaled in Hurricane Sandy, has been re-built and will be racing as well. Here is a short little article on her. http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2014/03/17/sinn-fein-storm-start-line/ Paul West Adventure Kwest Cal 39

Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race

je… [at] comcast.net2014-04-03 23:57 UTC
156 From: pw… [at] aol.com To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 1:40:46 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race Let me know if you are going to do it as we've done that race as well a few times so maybe we can all race boat to boat. We rate 126, Mike is 159 what do you rate? Paul From: jeepjallade <je… [at] comcast.net> To: Cal Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thu, Apr 3, 2014 1:28 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race Mike is the reason I bought the Cal as after sailing on Big Time for several years, I really like the boat. Mine is a lot heaver but its rig is taller. He skippered mine on a Wed night and beat the whole fleet. We are going to try and make the Annapolis to Oxford race this year and race Big Time boat to boat. This is a big canoe weekend so it all depends on my canoe commitment. Off to do grandchildren. Take care. Jeep From: pw… [at] aol.com To: "Cal Boats" < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 12:56:10 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race Yeah we love the Miles River Race, just hard getting crew on that weekend. I've been tempted to do the Down the Bay Race as our boat really likes to stretch her legs but have the same issue. We actually beat Doug in the Miles River Race once (my claim to fame LOL). We forced him over the line early which helped but at that time we also had 2 people who had never sailed on our boat before one of which had never sailed so we had 3 regular crew and 2 rookies so we had our issues too ;-). Belle Aurore is a beautiful boat to be sure though. Mike Rajajich (sp?) on Big Time is damn near impossible to beat. We did it once or twice in our CS 30 but haven't done it in the Cal yet. Our problem is that our wed night group doesn't fly spinnaker so when we go to Oxford we have no practice. That'll change this year as we have enough serious racers who want to fly a chute so maybe we can redeem ourselves over there this fall. As far as your boat being too small another friend of mine did it in a CS 30 shoal draft which is what I had (but with the deep keel) before the Cal. It can be done but not that comfortably LOL. Paul In a message dated 4/3/2014 12:36:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, je… [at] comcast.net writes: You speak of Doug J. Know him well as crewed many times with him on the log canoe Island Bird and raced against him on Big T ime a Cal 33. Belle Aurora is a beautiful Cal 40. Never have sailed on her. My Cal is too small to even think of a Bermuda race, although my kids talk about it. You aught to think about the Annapolis to Miles River Race in late May. We had 120 boats last year but with 25 to 30 knots NW winds some of then drooped out. We finished 8th out of 15 and ended up the the best corrected time within the Miles River boats. Looking forward to meeting you on he 18th. From: pw… [at] aol.com To: "Cal Boats" < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 9:11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race No, but hope to in the next 4 or 5 years. Want to do the Annapolis to Newport race for a tune up first. I may do the Annapolis to Bermuda race instead as a friend of mine who owns the Cal 40 Bell Aurore, said it takes a team of lawyers to enter the Newport to Bermuda race. There is a level of offshore experience required to be captain which he did not meet even though he had quite a bit of offshore experience and had been sailing on the Bay his whole life (he's in his late 30's) so he had to have one of his friends register as captain of his boat. He said the application was ridiculous plus you have to have your boat measured and weighed etc. The Annapolis races aren't that ridiculous so I'm told. Paul From: jeepjallade < je… [at] comcast.net > To: Cal Boats < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thu, Apr 3, 2014 7:05 am Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race Have you ever done the Bermuda race on your Cal? From: pw… [at] aol.com To: "Cal Boats" < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 9:46:45 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] 3 Cal 40's in Newport to Bermuda Race Just looked at the list of entrants in the 2014 Newport to Bermuda race and 3 Cal 40's are in it, 2 of them from the Tred Avon Yacht Club, Flyer which was just completely re-done and finished up last Spring and Nicole which was re-fit with a wheel. Surprisingly Sinn Fein, which was totaled in Hurricane Sandy, has been re-built and will be racing as well. Here is a short little article on her. http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2014/03/17/sinn-fein-storm-start-line/ Paul West Adventure Kwest Cal 39