cal 27 mast

hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. vince

I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <mo… [at] aol.com> wrote: > > > hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal > 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new > ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very > much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. > if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find > them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if > anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company > that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. > > vince > > >

Hi Vince, I don't have a Cal, I have an older Lapworth design. But I have a lot of opinions :-) One of those opinions is to remove the old spreaders before getting the new ones. Even if you get the specs for the original design, who is to say they actually made them that way? My boat was carefully made to a specification but the mast is 1 inch to starboard off center. Apparently a common mistake. None of these boats are made by machine so don't assume anything. I also have a web site and on that web site is an article that is the result of some research I did on how to climb a mast. Actually, it is the result of 25 years of frustration and a year of finding a better way. It will make it so easy to climb your mast you will want to do it just for fun :-) http://l-36.com/mast_climbing.php Nice to meet you, Allen On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:43 PM, sailor7312 . <sa… [at] gmail.com> wrote: > > > I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with > alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I > removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so > they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. > http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <mo… [at] aol.com> wrote: > >> >> >> hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal >> 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new >> ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very >> much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. >> if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find >> them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if >> anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company >> that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. >> >> vince >> >> > >

Vince, I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). Steve Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace Chicago, IL From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailor7312 . Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <mo… [at] aol.com<mailto:mo… [at] aol.com>> wrote: hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. vince This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient: (1) you may not disclose, use, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment(s); and (2) please notify the sender by reply e-mail, and then delete this message and its attachment(s). Underwriters Laboratories Inc. and its affiliates disclaim all liability for any errors, omissions, corruption or virus in this message or any attachments.

thanks for the quick responses. sailor 7312, do you still have a copy of your dimesional drawings? that's what i am looking for; that or an old one someonde has laying around. those truly are nice. my rigger told me about them. however, i'm on a verrrrrrry tight budget......and i weld and fabricate. i can make my own if i have the measurements. thanks vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : Vince, I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). Steve Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace Chicago, IL From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailor7312 . Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. vince This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient: (1) you may not disclose, use, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment(s); and (2) please notify the sender by reply e-mail, and then delete this message and its attachment(s). Underwriters Laboratories Inc. and its affiliates disclaim all liability for any errors, omissions, corruption or virus in this message or any attachments.

thanks for the responses. those do look nice. my rigger suggested them. that's a bit steep, for me. i am on a tight budget....and i weld and fabricate. i was thinking of making my own. i built my own chopper, fabricating 85% of the parts, so i am thinking the spreaders shoud be no problem. sailor 7312, you said you made dimensional drawings of your spreaders...you wouldn't still have a copy of them laying around, would you? that's exactly what i am looking for. that, or someone with ond of the originals laying around. thanks guys. vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : Vince, I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). Steve Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace Chicago, IL From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailor7312 . Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. vince This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient: (1) you may not disclose, use, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment(s); and (2) please notify the sender by reply e-mail, and then delete this message and its attachment(s). Underwriters Laboratories Inc. and its affiliates disclaim all liability for any errors, omissions, corruption or virus in this message or any attachments.

What Cal group members are telling you is that no 2 Cal boats are alike. You may find that after you have made spreaders from a drawing, they will not fit. Take down your mast and use your spreaders for a pattern. This is the only way to be sure they will fit. My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:15 PM, "mo… [at] aol.com" <mo… [at] aol.com> wrote: thanks for the responses. those do look nice. my rigger suggested them. that's a bit steep, for me. i am on a tight budget....and i weld and fabricate. i was thinking of making my own. i built my own chopper, fabricating 85% of the parts, so i am thinking the spreaders shoud be no problem. sailor 7312, you said you made dimensional drawings of your spreaders...you wouldn't still have a copy of them laying around, would you? that's exactly what i am looking for. that, or someone with ond of the originals laying around. thanks guys. vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : Vince, I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). Steve Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace Chicago, IL From:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailor7312 . Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: > >hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. > >vince This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient: (1) you may not disclose, use, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment(s); and (2) please notify the sender by reply e-mail, and then delete this message and its attachment(s). Underwriters Laboratories Inc. and its affiliates disclaim all liability for any errors, omissions, corruption or virus in this message or any attachments.

On 4/16/2014 8:02 PM, Urbanski, Steven J. wrote: > [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from Urbanski, Steven J. included below] > > Vince, > > I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several > years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a > template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). > I don't have a 27, but it would be worth having one just to get a set of spreaders as cool as those. They really are excellent. It looks like somebody was dedicated to making a superb product. My other boat has a wood mast and wood spreaders. A few years ago I reworked a previous owner's cobbled-together repair on the inboard end with spruce & epoxy. But if I ever needed new ones, I'd go with aluminum just to have such nice components on my boat. Chris Campbell

I had a cal 29, mine would be different On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:53 AM, <mo… [at] aol.com> wrote: > > > thanks for the quick responses. sailor 7312, do you still have a copy of > your dimesional drawings? that's what i am looking for; that or an old one > someonde has laying around. those truly are nice. my rigger told me about > them. however, i'm on a verrrrrrry tight budget......and i weld and > fabricate. i can make my own if i have the measurements. thanks > > vince > > > ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : > > Vince, > > > > I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several > years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a > template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). > > > > Steve > > Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace > > Chicago, IL > > > > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *sailor7312 . > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast > > > > > > I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with > alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I > removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so > they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. > http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: > > > > hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal > 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new > ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very > much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. > if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find > them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if > anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company > that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. > > > > vince > > > > > This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are > not the intended recipient: (1) you may not disclose, use, distribute, copy > or rely upon this message or attachment(s); and (2) please notify the > sender by reply e-mail, and then delete this message and its attachment(s). > Underwriters Laboratories Inc. and its affiliates disclaim all liability > for any errors, omissions, corruption or virus in this message or any > attachments. > > >

oh. right. it was late when i read the responses and i had a momentary lack of reading comprehension. lol vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <sailor7312@...> wrote : I had a cal 29, mine would be different On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:53 AM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: thanks for the quick responses. sailor 7312, do you still have a copy of your dimesional drawings? that's what i am looking for; that or an old one someonde has laying around. those truly are nice. my rigger told me about them. however, i'm on a verrrrrrry tight budget......and i weld and fabricate. i can make my own if i have the measurements. thanks vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : Vince, I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). Steve Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace Chicago, IL From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailor7312 . Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. vince This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient: (1) you may not disclose, use, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment(s); and (2) please notify the sender by reply e-mail, and then delete this message and its attachment(s). Underwriters Laboratories Inc. and its affiliates disclaim all liability for any errors, omissions, corruption or virus in this message or any attachments.

i found a way, in another on line source, to change them without removing the stick and my rigger thinks it will work. my marina doesn't have the equipment to remove a mast so i want to avoid the extra complication and cost. i will try to measure mine, while they are still on the mast. if i can get up there, that should work just fine. that way i can do the whole spreader swap at one time. i find it odd that there could be that much variation in spreader length from boat to boat, of the same model. i could see a half an inch, or so, but it's a bit weird for it to be such a substantial difference. i was hoping to make things a bit easier by getting specs for the spreaders. but it is what it is. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <vectormenow@...> wrote : What Cal group members are telling you is that no 2 Cal boats are alike. You may find that after you have made spreaders from a drawing, they will not fit. Take down your mast and use your spreaders for a pattern. This is the only way to be sure they will fit. My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:15 PM, "motorcyclejack2@..." <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: thanks for the responses. those do look nice. my rigger suggested them. that's a bit steep, for me. i am on a tight budget....and i weld and fabricate. i was thinking of making my own. i built my own chopper, fabricating 85% of the parts, so i am thinking the spreaders shoud be no problem. sailor 7312, you said you made dimensional drawings of your spreaders...you wouldn't still have a copy of them laying around, would you? that's exactly what i am looking for. that, or someone with ond of the originals laying around. thanks guys. vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : Vince, I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). Steve Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace Chicago, IL From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailor7312 . Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. vince This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient: (1) you may not disclose, use, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment(s); and (2) please notify the sender by reply e-mail, and then delete this message and its attachment(s). Underwriters Laboratories Inc. and its affiliates disclaim all liability for any errors, omissions, corruption or virus in this message or any attachments.

Just rig two halyards to take the load of the uppers, loosen the uppers, and climb up and get the spreaders. If you don't want to use your halyards, climb up and tie some lines up there somewhere. I certainly would not take my mast down to replace the spreaders, or the rigging for that matter. Your weight is nothing compared to the forces that mast is designed to take. This should not even be an issue. Allen On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, <mo… [at] aol.com> wrote: > > > > i found a way, in another on line source, to change them without removing > the stick and my rigger thinks it will work. my marina doesn't have the > equipment to remove a mast so i want to avoid the extra complication and > cost. i will try to measure mine, while they are still on the mast. if i > can get up there, that should work just fine. that way i can do the whole > spreader swap at one time. i find it odd that there could be that much > variation in spreader length from boat to boat, of the same model. i could > see a half an inch, or so, but it's a bit weird for it to be such a > substantial difference. i was hoping to make things a bit easier by getting > specs for the spreaders. but it is what it is. > > ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <vectormenow@...> wrote : > > What Cal group members are telling you is that no 2 Cal boats are > alike. You may find that after you have made spreaders from a drawing, > they will not fit. Take down your mast and use your spreaders for a > pattern. This is the only way to be sure they will fit. > My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 > On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:15 PM, "motorcyclejack2@..." > <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: > > > thanks for the responses. those do look nice. my rigger suggested them. > that's a bit steep, for me. i am on a tight budget....and i weld and > fabricate. i was thinking of making my own. i built my own chopper, > fabricating 85% of the parts, so i am thinking the spreaders shoud be no > problem. sailor 7312, you said you made dimensional drawings of your > spreaders...you wouldn't still have a copy of them laying around, would > you? that's exactly what i am looking for. that, or someone with ond of the > originals laying around. thanks guys. > > vince > > > ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : > > Vince, > > I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several > years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a > template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). > > Steve > Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace > Chicago, IL > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *sailor7312 . > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast > > > I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with > alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I > removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so > they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. > http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: > > hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal > 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new > ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very > much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. > if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find > them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if > anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company > that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. > > vince > > > > This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are > not the intended recipient: (1) you may not disclose, use, distribute, copy > or rely upon this message or attachment(s); and (2) please notify the > sender by reply e-mail, and then delete this message and its attachment(s). > Underwriters Laboratories Inc. and its affiliates disclaim all liability > for any errors, omissions, corruption or virus in this message or any > attachments. > > > > > >

that's how i was going to do it. the rigger was saying to take the mast down to do it. i wondered why that was necessary so i did an internet search and found a blog where a guy was saying exactly what you suggested. out of curiosity, can the masthead sheaves be replaced without dropping the mast, too? vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : Just rig two halyards to take the load of the uppers, loosen the uppers, and climb up and get the spreaders. If you don't want to use your halyards, climb up and tie some lines up there somewhere. I certainly would not take my mast down to replace the spreaders, or the rigging for that matter. Your weight is nothing compared to the forces that mast is designed to take. This should not even be an issue. Allen On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: i found a way, in another on line source, to change them without removing the stick and my rigger thinks it will work. my marina doesn't have the equipment to remove a mast so i want to avoid the extra complication and cost. i will try to measure mine, while they are still on the mast. if i can get up there, that should work just fine. that way i can do the whole spreader swap at one time. i find it odd that there could be that much variation in spreader length from boat to boat, of the same model. i could see a half an inch, or so, but it's a bit weird for it to be such a substantial difference. i was hoping to make things a bit easier by getting specs for the spreaders. but it is what it is. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <vectormenow@...> wrote : What Cal group members are telling you is that no 2 Cal boats are alike. You may find that after you have made spreaders from a drawing, they will not fit. Take down your mast and use your spreaders for a pattern. This is the only way to be sure they will fit. My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:15 PM, "motorcyclejack2@..." <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: thanks for the responses. those do look nice. my rigger suggested them. that's a bit steep, for me. i am on a tight budget....and i weld and fabricate. i was thinking of making my own. i built my own chopper, fabricating 85% of the parts, so i am thinking the spreaders shoud be no problem. sailor 7312, you said you made dimensional drawings of your spreaders...you wouldn't still have a copy of them laying around, would you? that's exactly what i am looking for. that, or someone with ond of the originals laying around. thanks guys. vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : Vince, I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). Steve Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace Chicago, IL From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailor7312 . Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. vince This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient: (1) you may not disclose, use, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment(s); and (2) please notify the sender by reply e-mail, and then delete this message and its attachment(s). Underwriters Laboratories Inc. and its affiliates disclaim all liability for any errors, omissions, corruption or virus in this message or any attachments.

no. that's a silly thought. without the halyards you couldn't climb the mast. none of the other lines on the mast will take you that high. too early in the morning for my brain to be functioning. it's not awake yet. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : that's how i was going to do it. the rigger was saying to take the mast down to do it. i wondered why that was necessary so i did an internet search and found a blog where a guy was saying exactly what you suggested. out of curiosity, can the masthead sheaves be replaced without dropping the mast, too? vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : Just rig two halyards to take the load of the uppers, loosen the uppers, and climb up and get the spreaders. If you don't want to use your halyards, climb up and tie some lines up there somewhere. I certainly would not take my mast down to replace the spreaders, or the rigging for that matter. Your weight is nothing compared to the forces that mast is designed to take. This should not even be an issue. Allen On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: i found a way, in another on line source, to change them without removing the stick and my rigger thinks it will work. my marina doesn't have the equipment to remove a mast so i want to avoid the extra complication and cost. i will try to measure mine, while they are still on the mast. if i can get up there, that should work just fine. that way i can do the whole spreader swap at one time. i find it odd that there could be that much variation in spreader length from boat to boat, of the same model. i could see a half an inch, or so, but it's a bit weird for it to be such a substantial difference. i was hoping to make things a bit easier by getting specs for the spreaders. but it is what it is. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <vectormenow@...> wrote : What Cal group members are telling you is that no 2 Cal boats are alike. You may find that after you have made spreaders from a drawing, they will not fit. Take down your mast and use your spreaders for a pattern. This is the only way to be sure they will fit. My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:15 PM, "motorcyclejack2@..." <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: thanks for the responses. those do look nice. my rigger suggested them. that's a bit steep, for me. i am on a tight budget....and i weld and fabricate. i was thinking of making my own. i built my own chopper, fabricating 85% of the parts, so i am thinking the spreaders shoud be no problem. sailor 7312, you said you made dimensional drawings of your spreaders...you wouldn't still have a copy of them laying around, would you? that's exactly what i am looking for. that, or someone with ond of the originals laying around. thanks guys. vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : Vince, I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). Steve Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace Chicago, IL From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailor7312 . Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. vince This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient: (1) you may not disclose, use, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment(s); and (2) please notify the sender by reply e-mail, and then delete this message and its attachment(s). Underwriters Laboratories Inc. and its affiliates disclaim all liability for any errors, omissions, corruption or virus in this message or any attachments.

Of course you can change the sheaves with the mast up. Just do it before you take the rigging off. If you are trying to do both tasks at the same time for some reason, just tie off some other lines to support the mast and use them instead of the halyards. It just means multiple trips up the mast. But my climbing method makes that easy so check that out. Be careful not to drop the sheaves. I would suggest you use a lot of masking tape so they cannot fall if you get the pin out and let go. Allen On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:51 AM, <mo… [at] aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > no. that's a silly thought. without the halyards you couldn't climb the > mast. none of the other lines on the mast will take you that high. too > early in the morning for my brain to be functioning. it's not awake yet. > > > ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : > > > > > > that's how i was going to do it. the rigger was saying to take the mast > down to do it. i wondered why that was necessary so i did an internet > search and found a blog where a guy was saying exactly what you suggested. > out of curiosity, can the masthead sheaves be replaced without dropping the > mast, too? > > vince > > > > ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : > > Just rig two halyards to take the load of the uppers, loosen the uppers, > and climb up and get the spreaders. If you don't want to use your > halyards, climb up and tie some lines up there somewhere. I certainly > would not take my mast down to replace the spreaders, or the rigging for > that matter. Your weight is nothing compared to the forces that mast is > designed to take. This should not even be an issue. > > Allen > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: > > > > > i found a way, in another on line source, to change them without removing > the stick and my rigger thinks it will work. my marina doesn't have the > equipment to remove a mast so i want to avoid the extra complication and > cost. i will try to measure mine, while they are still on the mast. if i > can get up there, that should work just fine. that way i can do the whole > spreader swap at one time. i find it odd that there could be that much > variation in spreader length from boat to boat, of the same model. i could > see a half an inch, or so, but it's a bit weird for it to be such a > substantial difference. i was hoping to make things a bit easier by getting > specs for the spreaders. but it is what it is. > > ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <vectormenow@...> wrote : > > What Cal group members are telling you is that no 2 Cal boats are > alike. You may find that after you have made spreaders from a drawing, > they will not fit. Take down your mast and use your spreaders for a > pattern. This is the only way to be sure they will fit. > My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 > On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:15 PM, "motorcyclejack2@..." > <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: > > > thanks for the responses. those do look nice. my rigger suggested them. > that's a bit steep, for me. i am on a tight budget....and i weld and > fabricate. i was thinking of making my own. i built my own chopper, > fabricating 85% of the parts, so i am thinking the spreaders shoud be no > problem. sailor 7312, you said you made dimensional drawings of your > spreaders...you wouldn't still have a copy of them laying around, would > you? that's exactly what i am looking for. that, or someone with ond of the > originals laying around. thanks guys. > > vince > > > ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : > > Vince, > > I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several > years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a > template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). > > Steve > Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace > Chicago, IL > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *sailor7312 . > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast > > > I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with > alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I > removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so > they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. > http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: > > hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal > 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new > ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very > much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. > if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find > them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if > anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company > that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. > > vince > > > > This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are > not the intended recipient: (1) you may not disclose, use, distribute, copy > or rely upon this message or attachment(s); and (2) please notify the > sender by reply e-mail, and then delete this message and its attachment(s). > Underwriters Laboratories Inc. and its affiliates disclaim all liability > for any errors, omissions, corruption or virus in this message or any > attachments. > > > > > > >

thanks guys. you are really informative. i saved the youtube video of taking the mast down....in case i need to do it that way. it's good to know i can replace the sheaves without taking down the mast. i will definately check out your mast climbing method. you guys may just make this an affordable task. thank you all very much. i am glad i looked into this yahoo group. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : Of course you can change the sheaves with the mast up. Just do it before you take the rigging off. If you are trying to do both tasks at the same time for some reason, just tie off some other lines to support the mast and use them instead of the halyards. It just means multiple trips up the mast. But my climbing method makes that easy so check that out. Be careful not to drop the sheaves. I would suggest you use a lot of masking tape so they cannot fall if you get the pin out and let go. Allen On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:51 AM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: no. that's a silly thought. without the halyards you couldn't climb the mast. none of the other lines on the mast will take you that high. too early in the morning for my brain to be functioning. it's not awake yet. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : that's how i was going to do it. the rigger was saying to take the mast down to do it. i wondered why that was necessary so i did an internet search and found a blog where a guy was saying exactly what you suggested. out of curiosity, can the masthead sheaves be replaced without dropping the mast, too? vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : Just rig two halyards to take the load of the uppers, loosen the uppers, and climb up and get the spreaders. If you don't want to use your halyards, climb up and tie some lines up there somewhere. I certainly would not take my mast down to replace the spreaders, or the rigging for that matter. Your weight is nothing compared to the forces that mast is designed to take. This should not even be an issue. Allen On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: i found a way, in another on line source, to change them without removing the stick and my rigger thinks it will work. my marina doesn't have the equipment to remove a mast so i want to avoid the extra complication and cost. i will try to measure mine, while they are still on the mast. if i can get up there, that should work just fine. that way i can do the whole spreader swap at one time. i find it odd that there could be that much variation in spreader length from boat to boat, of the same model. i could see a half an inch, or so, but it's a bit weird for it to be such a substantial difference. i was hoping to make things a bit easier by getting specs for the spreaders. but it is what it is. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <vectormenow@...> wrote : What Cal group members are telling you is that no 2 Cal boats are alike. You may find that after you have made spreaders from a drawing, they will not fit. Take down your mast and use your spreaders for a pattern. This is the only way to be sure they will fit. My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:15 PM, "motorcyclejack2@..." <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: thanks for the responses. those do look nice. my rigger suggested them. that's a bit steep, for me. i am on a tight budget....and i weld and fabricate. i was thinking of making my own. i built my own chopper, fabricating 85% of the parts, so i am thinking the spreaders shoud be no problem. sailor 7312, you said you made dimensional drawings of your spreaders...you wouldn't still have a copy of them laying around, would you? that's exactly what i am looking for. that, or someone with ond of the originals laying around. thanks guys. vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : Vince, I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). Steve Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace Chicago, IL From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailor7312 . Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. vince This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient: (1) you may not disclose, use, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment(s); and (2) please notify the sender by reply e-mail, and then delete this message and its attachment(s). Underwriters Laboratories Inc. and its affiliates disclaim all liability for any errors, omissions, corruption or virus in this message or any attachments.

the rigger originally said about taking the mast down. his suggestion was to find a company to do it. the marina doesn't have the capability. it's tied beside a rickety finger pier ( the marina is still in the midst of renovations ). i will have to consider all the options you have given me. obviously, from a working on it standpoint, taking it down would be easiest/best. on the other hand, in it's berth, taking it down might be a bit difficult. tiny finger pier attached to a narrow dock. if it can be done while the mast is up....it's something i have to think about. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : thanks guys. you are really informative. i saved the youtube video of taking the mast down....in case i need to do it that way. it's good to know i can replace the sheaves without taking down the mast. i will definately check out your mast climbing method. you guys may just make this an affordable task. thank you all very much. i am glad i looked into this yahoo group. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : Of course you can change the sheaves with the mast up. Just do it before you take the rigging off. If you are trying to do both tasks at the same time for some reason, just tie off some other lines to support the mast and use them instead of the halyards. It just means multiple trips up the mast. But my climbing method makes that easy so check that out. Be careful not to drop the sheaves. I would suggest you use a lot of masking tape so they cannot fall if you get the pin out and let go. Allen On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:51 AM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: no. that's a silly thought. without the halyards you couldn't climb the mast. none of the other lines on the mast will take you that high. too early in the morning for my brain to be functioning. it's not awake yet. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : that's how i was going to do it. the rigger was saying to take the mast down to do it. i wondered why that was necessary so i did an internet search and found a blog where a guy was saying exactly what you suggested. out of curiosity, can the masthead sheaves be replaced without dropping the mast, too? vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : Just rig two halyards to take the load of the uppers, loosen the uppers, and climb up and get the spreaders. If you don't want to use your halyards, climb up and tie some lines up there somewhere. I certainly would not take my mast down to replace the spreaders, or the rigging for that matter. Your weight is nothing compared to the forces that mast is designed to take. This should not even be an issue. Allen On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: i found a way, in another on line source, to change them without removing the stick and my rigger thinks it will work. my marina doesn't have the equipment to remove a mast so i want to avoid the extra complication and cost. i will try to measure mine, while they are still on the mast. if i can get up there, that should work just fine. that way i can do the whole spreader swap at one time. i find it odd that there could be that much variation in spreader length from boat to boat, of the same model. i could see a half an inch, or so, but it's a bit weird for it to be such a substantial difference. i was hoping to make things a bit easier by getting specs for the spreaders. but it is what it is. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <vectormenow@...> wrote : What Cal group members are telling you is that no 2 Cal boats are alike. You may find that after you have made spreaders from a drawing, they will not fit. Take down your mast and use your spreaders for a pattern. This is the only way to be sure they will fit. My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:15 PM, "motorcyclejack2@..." <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: thanks for the responses. those do look nice. my rigger suggested them. that's a bit steep, for me. i am on a tight budget....and i weld and fabricate. i was thinking of making my own. i built my own chopper, fabricating 85% of the parts, so i am thinking the spreaders shoud be no problem. sailor 7312, you said you made dimensional drawings of your spreaders...you wouldn't still have a copy of them laying around, would you? that's exactly what i am looking for. that, or someone with ond of the originals laying around. thanks guys. vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : Vince, I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). Steve Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace Chicago, IL From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailor7312 . Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. vince This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. 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Do you have any bridges or high docks near your area? Up in Alaska we had 19 foot tides and at low tide you could reach the top of your mast from several of the higher docks used by the commercial fishing boats. I also saw a guy hang a line with a block on it from the railing of a road bridge and position himself underneath to hoist his mast upright. Some bozo do-gooder saw him and called the cops and he got a ticket but was finished by the time they got there so it worked out OK. I think the ticket was less than crane service. Probably best to choose a quiet area for that kind of op. From: "mo… [at] aol.com" <mo… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 4:34 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: cal 27 mast thanks guys. you are really informative. i saved the youtube video of taking the mast down....in case i need to do it that way. it's good to know i can replace the sheaves without taking down the mast. i will definately check out your mast climbing method. you guys may just make this an affordable task. thank you all very much. i am glad i looked into this yahoo group. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : Of course you can change the sheaves with the mast up. Just do it before you take the rigging off. If you are trying to do both tasks at the same time for some reason, just tie off some other lines to support the mast and use them instead of the halyards. It just means multiple trips up the mast. But my climbing method makes that easy so check that out. Be careful not to drop the sheaves. I would suggest you use a lot of masking tape so they cannot fall if you get the pin out and let go. Allen On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:51 AM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> >>no. that's a silly thought. without the halyards you couldn't climb the mast. none of the other lines on the mast will take you that high. too early in the morning for my brain to be functioning. it's not awake yet. >> >> >> >> >>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>that's how i was going to do it. the rigger was saying to take the mast down to do it. i wondered why that was necessary so i did an internet search and found a blog where a guy was saying exactly what you suggested. out of curiosity, can the masthead sheaves be replaced without dropping the mast, too? >> >> >>vince >> >> >> >> >> >> >>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : >> >> >>Just rig two halyards to take the load of the uppers, loosen the uppers, and climb up and get the spreaders. If you don't want to use your halyards, climb up and tie some lines up there somewhere. I certainly would not take my mast down to replace the spreaders, or the rigging for that matter. Your weight is nothing compared to the forces that mast is designed to take. This should not even be an issue. >> >> >>Allen >> >> >> >>On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>i found a way, in another on line source, to change them without removing the stick and my rigger thinks it will work. my marina doesn't have the equipment to remove a mast so i want to avoid the extra complication and cost. i will try to measure mine, while they are still on the mast. if i can get up there, that should work just fine. that way i can do the whole spreader swap at one time. i find it odd that there could be that much variation in spreader length from boat to boat, of the same model. i could see a half an inch, or so, but it's a bit weird for it to be such a substantial difference. i was hoping to make things a bit easier by getting specs for the spreaders. but it is what it is. >>>>> >>>>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <vectormenow@...> wrote : >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What Cal group members are telling you is that no 2 Cal boats are alike. You may find that after you have made spreaders from a drawing, they will not fit. Take down your mast and use your spreaders for a pattern. This is the only way to be sure they will fit. >>>>> My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 >>>>>On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:15 PM, "motorcyclejack2@..." <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>thanks for the responses. those do look nice. my rigger suggested them. that's a bit steep, for me. i am on a tight budget....and i weld and fabricate. i was thinking of making my own. i built my own chopper, fabricating 85% of the parts, so i am thinking the spreaders shoud be no problem. sailor 7312, you said you made dimensional drawings of your spreaders...you wouldn't still have a copy of them laying around, would you? that's exactly what i am looking for. that, or someone with ond of the originals laying around. thanks guys. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>vince >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Vince, >>>>> >>>>>I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). >>>>> >>>>>Steve >>>>>Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace >>>>>Chicago, IL >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>From:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailor7312 . >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM >>>>>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>>>>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. >>>>>http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx >>>>> >>>>>On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>vince >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. 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For the spreaders, don't dismiss your standard 20 ft extension ladder. Rig up a way to brace/attach it to the mast and work either from the foredeck or cockpit, whichever seems more secure. Depending on how they are attached at the ends of the spreaders, once you take the inside end loose, you may be able to just slide the outer end down the shroud to deck level to take that end off. From: "mo… [at] aol.com" <mo… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 4:47 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: cal 27 mast the rigger originally said about taking the mast down. his suggestion was to find a company to do it. the marina doesn't have the capability. it's tied beside a rickety finger pier ( the marina is still in the midst of renovations ). i will have to consider all the options you have given me. obviously, from a working on it standpoint, taking it down would be easiest/best. on the other hand, in it's berth, taking it down might be a bit difficult. tiny finger pier attached to a narrow dock. if it can be done while the mast is up....it's something i have to think about. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : thanks guys. you are really informative. i saved the youtube video of taking the mast down....in case i need to do it that way. it's good to know i can replace the sheaves without taking down the mast. i will definately check out your mast climbing method. you guys may just make this an affordable task. thank you all very much. i am glad i looked into this yahoo group. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : Of course you can change the sheaves with the mast up. Just do it before you take the rigging off. If you are trying to do both tasks at the same time for some reason, just tie off some other lines to support the mast and use them instead of the halyards. It just means multiple trips up the mast. But my climbing method makes that easy so check that out. Be careful not to drop the sheaves. I would suggest you use a lot of masking tape so they cannot fall if you get the pin out and let go. Allen On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:51 AM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>no. that's a silly thought. without the halyards you couldn't climb the mast. none of the other lines on the mast will take you that high. too early in the morning for my brain to be functioning. it's not awake yet. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>that's how i was going to do it. the rigger was saying to take the mast down to do it. i wondered why that was necessary so i did an internet search and found a blog where a guy was saying exactly what you suggested. out of curiosity, can the masthead sheaves be replaced without dropping the mast, too? >>> >>> >>>vince >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : >>> >>> >>>Just rig two halyards to take the load of the uppers, loosen the uppers, and climb up and get the spreaders. If you don't want to use your halyards, climb up and tie some lines up there somewhere. I certainly would not take my mast down to replace the spreaders, or the rigging for that matter. Your weight is nothing compared to the forces that mast is designed to take. This should not even be an issue. >>> >>> >>>Allen >>> >>> >>> >>>On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>i found a way, in another on line source, to change them without removing the stick and my rigger thinks it will work. my marina doesn't have the equipment to remove a mast so i want to avoid the extra complication and cost. i will try to measure mine, while they are still on the mast. if i can get up there, that should work just fine. that way i can do the whole spreader swap at one time. i find it odd that there could be that much variation in spreader length from boat to boat, of the same model. i could see a half an inch, or so, but it's a bit weird for it to be such a substantial difference. i was hoping to make things a bit easier by getting specs for the spreaders. but it is what it is. >>>>>> >>>>>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <vectormenow@...> wrote : >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What Cal group members are telling you is that no 2 Cal boats are alike. You may find that after you have made spreaders from a drawing, they will not fit. Take down your mast and use your spreaders for a pattern. This is the only way to be sure they will fit. >>>>>> My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 >>>>>>On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:15 PM, "motorcyclejack2@..." <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>thanks for the responses. those do look nice. my rigger suggested them. that's a bit steep, for me. i am on a tight budget....and i weld and fabricate. i was thinking of making my own. i built my own chopper, fabricating 85% of the parts, so i am thinking the spreaders shoud be no problem. sailor 7312, you said you made dimensional drawings of your spreaders...you wouldn't still have a copy of them laying around, would you? that's exactly what i am looking for. that, or someone with ond of the originals laying around. thanks guys. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>vince >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Vince, >>>>>> >>>>>>I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). >>>>>> >>>>>>Steve >>>>>>Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace >>>>>>Chicago, IL >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>From:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailor7312 . >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM >>>>>>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. >>>>>>http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx >>>>>> >>>>>>On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>vince >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. 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Working from a chair aloft is dangerous and difficult. There is no good reason to do it if you don't have to. It takes much more time and energy to do the same job and the result may not be as thorough. There are lots of ways to pull a mast and a deck stepped mast is shorter than a keel stepped one. It is so much easier and safer to work on your mast on two sawhorses in the yard. You will have time to go over you mast to check for corrosion and wear not to mention that when you drop something it can be picked up, not lost. Your mast step is a area of concern that may be corroded inside that can only be inspected when the spar is removed. I have been crew in 3 dismastings and skipper in 2. It is costly and frustrating and is preventable. Do it right! Do it once! You will find lots more jobs that need doing when your spar is down. My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:55 PM, Kris Jensen <cr… [at] att.net> wrote: For the spreaders, don't dismiss your standard 20 ft extension ladder. Rig up a way to brace/attach it to the mast and work either from the foredeck or cockpit, whichever seems more secure. Depending on how they are attached at the ends of the spreaders, once you take the inside end loose, you may be able to just slide the outer end down the shroud to deck level to take that end off. From: "mo… [at] aol.com" <mo… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 4:47 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: cal 27 mast the rigger originally said about taking the mast down. his suggestion was to find a company to do it. the marina doesn't have the capability. it's tied beside a rickety finger pier ( the marina is still in the midst of renovations ). i will have to consider all the options you have given me. obviously, from a working on it standpoint, taking it down would be easiest/best. on the other hand, in it's berth, taking it down might be a bit difficult. tiny finger pier attached to a narrow dock. if it can be done while the mast is up....it's something i have to think about. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : thanks guys. you are really informative. i saved the youtube video of taking the mast down....in case i need to do it that way. it's good to know i can replace the sheaves without taking down the mast. i will definately check out your mast climbing method. you guys may just make this an affordable task. thank you all very much. i am glad i looked into this yahoo group. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : Of course you can change the sheaves with the mast up. Just do it before you take the rigging off. If you are trying to do both tasks at the same time for some reason, just tie off some other lines to support the mast and use them instead of the halyards. It just means multiple trips up the mast. But my climbing method makes that easy so check that out. Be careful not to drop the sheaves. I would suggest you use a lot of masking tape so they cannot fall if you get the pin out and let go. Allen On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:51 AM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>no. that's a silly thought. without the halyards you couldn't climb the mast. none of the other lines on the mast will take you that high. too early in the morning for my brain to be functioning. it's not awake yet. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>that's how i was going to do it. the rigger was saying to take the mast down to do it. i wondered why that was necessary so i did an internet search and found a blog where a guy was saying exactly what you suggested. out of curiosity, can the masthead sheaves be replaced without dropping the mast, too? >>> >>> >>>vince >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : >>> >>> >>>Just rig two halyards to take the load of the uppers, loosen the uppers, and climb up and get the spreaders. If you don't want to use your halyards, climb up and tie some lines up there somewhere. I certainly would not take my mast down to replace the spreaders, or the rigging for that matter. Your weight is nothing compared to the forces that mast is designed to take. This should not even be an issue. >>> >>> >>>Allen >>> >>> >>> >>>On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>i found a way, in another on line source, to change them without removing the stick and my rigger thinks it will work. my marina doesn't have the equipment to remove a mast so i want to avoid the extra complication and cost. i will try to measure mine, while they are still on the mast. if i can get up there, that should work just fine. that way i can do the whole spreader swap at one time. i find it odd that there could be that much variation in spreader length from boat to boat, of the same model. i could see a half an inch, or so, but it's a bit weird for it to be such a substantial difference. i was hoping to make things a bit easier by getting specs for the spreaders. but it is what it is. >>>>>> >>>>>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <vectormenow@...> wrote : >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What Cal group members are telling you is that no 2 Cal boats are alike. You may find that after you have made spreaders from a drawing, they will not fit. Take down your mast and use your spreaders for a pattern. This is the only way to be sure they will fit. >>>>>> My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 >>>>>>On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:15 PM, "motorcyclejack2@..." <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>thanks for the responses. those do look nice. my rigger suggested them. that's a bit steep, for me. i am on a tight budget....and i weld and fabricate. i was thinking of making my own. i built my own chopper, fabricating 85% of the parts, so i am thinking the spreaders shoud be no problem. sailor 7312, you said you made dimensional drawings of your spreaders...you wouldn't still have a copy of them laying around, would you? that's exactly what i am looking for. that, or someone with ond of the originals laying around. thanks guys. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>vince >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Vince, >>>>>> >>>>>>I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). >>>>>> >>>>>>Steve >>>>>>Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace >>>>>>Chicago, IL >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>From:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailor7312 . >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM >>>>>>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. >>>>>>http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx >>>>>> >>>>>>On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>vince >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. 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Many yacht clubs and marinas have a dry yard with a hoist to launch and recover trailer stored boats. Often at low tide it is possible to use the hoist. Attach a double loop line around the mast and under the spreaders and lift the mast at the balance point. As mentioned before two "buddy boats" can tie alongside with your Cal 27 in between and lift your spar on their halyards using the same looped line under the spreaders. My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 On Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:25 AM, mike farrell <ve… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: Working from a chair aloft is dangerous and difficult. There is no good reason to do it if you don't have to. It takes much more time and energy to do the same job and the result may not be as thorough. There are lots of ways to pull a mast and a deck stepped mast is shorter than a keel stepped one. It is so much easier and safer to work on your mast on two sawhorses in the yard. You will have time to go over you mast to check for corrosion and wear not to mention that when you drop something it can be picked up, not lost. Your mast step is a area of concern that may be corroded inside that can only be inspected when the spar is removed. I have been crew in 3 dismastings and skipper in 2. It is costly and frustrating and is preventable. Do it right! Do it once! You will find lots more jobs that need doing when your spar is down. My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:55 PM, Kris Jensen <cr… [at] att.net> wrote: For the spreaders, don't dismiss your standard 20 ft extension ladder. Rig up a way to brace/attach it to the mast and work either from the foredeck or cockpit, whichever seems more secure. Depending on how they are attached at the ends of the spreaders, once you take the inside end loose, you may be able to just slide the outer end down the shroud to deck level to take that end off. From: "mo… [at] aol.com" <mo… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 4:47 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: cal 27 mast the rigger originally said about taking the mast down. his suggestion was to find a company to do it. the marina doesn't have the capability. it's tied beside a rickety finger pier ( the marina is still in the midst of renovations ). i will have to consider all the options you have given me. obviously, from a working on it standpoint, taking it down would be easiest/best. on the other hand, in it's berth, taking it down might be a bit difficult. tiny finger pier attached to a narrow dock. if it can be done while the mast is up....it's something i have to think about. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : thanks guys. you are really informative. i saved the youtube video of taking the mast down....in case i need to do it that way. it's good to know i can replace the sheaves without taking down the mast. i will definately check out your mast climbing method. you guys may just make this an affordable task. thank you all very much. i am glad i looked into this yahoo group. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : Of course you can change the sheaves with the mast up. Just do it before you take the rigging off. If you are trying to do both tasks at the same time for some reason, just tie off some other lines to support the mast and use them instead of the halyards. It just means multiple trips up the mast. But my climbing method makes that easy so check that out. Be careful not to drop the sheaves. I would suggest you use a lot of masking tape so they cannot fall if you get the pin out and let go. Allen On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:51 AM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>no. that's a silly thought. without the halyards you couldn't climb the mast. none of the other lines on the mast will take you that high. too early in the morning for my brain to be functioning. it's not awake yet. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>that's how i was going to do it. the rigger was saying to take the mast down to do it. i wondered why that was necessary so i did an internet search and found a blog where a guy was saying exactly what you suggested. out of curiosity, can the masthead sheaves be replaced without dropping the mast, too? >>> >>> >>>vince >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : >>> >>> >>>Just rig two halyards to take the load of the uppers, loosen the uppers, and climb up and get the spreaders. If you don't want to use your halyards, climb up and tie some lines up there somewhere. I certainly would not take my mast down to replace the spreaders, or the rigging for that matter. Your weight is nothing compared to the forces that mast is designed to take. This should not even be an issue. >>> >>> >>>Allen >>> >>> >>> >>>On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>i found a way, in another on line source, to change them without removing the stick and my rigger thinks it will work. my marina doesn't have the equipment to remove a mast so i want to avoid the extra complication and cost. i will try to measure mine, while they are still on the mast. if i can get up there, that should work just fine. that way i can do the whole spreader swap at one time. i find it odd that there could be that much variation in spreader length from boat to boat, of the same model. i could see a half an inch, or so, but it's a bit weird for it to be such a substantial difference. i was hoping to make things a bit easier by getting specs for the spreaders. but it is what it is. >>>>>> >>>>>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <vectormenow@...> wrote : >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What Cal group members are telling you is that no 2 Cal boats are alike. You may find that after you have made spreaders from a drawing, they will not fit. Take down your mast and use your spreaders for a pattern. This is the only way to be sure they will fit. >>>>>> My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 >>>>>>On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:15 PM, "motorcyclejack2@..." <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>thanks for the responses. those do look nice. my rigger suggested them. that's a bit steep, for me. i am on a tight budget....and i weld and fabricate. i was thinking of making my own. i built my own chopper, fabricating 85% of the parts, so i am thinking the spreaders shoud be no problem. sailor 7312, you said you made dimensional drawings of your spreaders...you wouldn't still have a copy of them laying around, would you? that's exactly what i am looking for. that, or someone with ond of the originals laying around. thanks guys. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>vince >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Vince, >>>>>> >>>>>>I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). >>>>>> >>>>>>Steve >>>>>>Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace >>>>>>Chicago, IL >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>From:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailor7312 . >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM >>>>>>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. >>>>>>http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx >>>>>> >>>>>>On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>vince >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. 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-no bridges or anything very high. i think a bridge would be out, anyway. maryland is hell for uptight law enforcement. could end up with a night in jail. lol. just finished reading the mast climbing info. sure is a lot to consider. --In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <criswak@...> wrote : Do you have any bridges or high docks near your area? Up in Alaska we had 19 foot tides and at low tide you could reach the top of your mast from several of the higher docks used by the commercial fishing boats. I also saw a guy hang a line with a block on it from the railing of a road bridge and position himself underneath to hoist his mast upright. Some bozo do-gooder saw him and called the cops and he got a ticket but was finished by the time they got there so it worked out OK. I think the ticket was less than crane service. Probably best to choose a quiet area for that kind of op. From: "motorcyclejack2@..." <motorcyclejack2@...> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 4:34 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: cal 27 mast thanks guys. you are really informative. i saved the youtube video of taking the mast down....in case i need to do it that way. it's good to know i can replace the sheaves without taking down the mast. i will definately check out your mast climbing method. you guys may just make this an affordable task. thank you all very much. i am glad i looked into this yahoo group. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : Of course you can change the sheaves with the mast up. Just do it before you take the rigging off. If you are trying to do both tasks at the same time for some reason, just tie off some other lines to support the mast and use them instead of the halyards. It just means multiple trips up the mast. But my climbing method makes that easy so check that out. Be careful not to drop the sheaves. I would suggest you use a lot of masking tape so they cannot fall if you get the pin out and let go. Allen On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:51 AM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: no. that's a silly thought. without the halyards you couldn't climb the mast. none of the other lines on the mast will take you that high. too early in the morning for my brain to be functioning. it's not awake yet. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : that's how i was going to do it. the rigger was saying to take the mast down to do it. i wondered why that was necessary so i did an internet search and found a blog where a guy was saying exactly what you suggested. out of curiosity, can the masthead sheaves be replaced without dropping the mast, too? vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : Just rig two halyards to take the load of the uppers, loosen the uppers, and climb up and get the spreaders. If you don't want to use your halyards, climb up and tie some lines up there somewhere. I certainly would not take my mast down to replace the spreaders, or the rigging for that matter. Your weight is nothing compared to the forces that mast is designed to take. This should not even be an issue. Allen On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: i found a way, in another on line source, to change them without removing the stick and my rigger thinks it will work. my marina doesn't have the equipment to remove a mast so i want to avoid the extra complication and cost. i will try to measure mine, while they are still on the mast. if i can get up there, that should work just fine. that way i can do the whole spreader swap at one time. i find it odd that there could be that much variation in spreader length from boat to boat, of the same model. i could see a half an inch, or so, but it's a bit weird for it to be such a substantial difference. i was hoping to make things a bit easier by getting specs for the spreaders. but it is what it is. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <vectormenow@...> wrote : What Cal group members are telling you is that no 2 Cal boats are alike. You may find that after you have made spreaders from a drawing, they will not fit. Take down your mast and use your spreaders for a pattern. This is the only way to be sure they will fit. My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:15 PM, "motorcyclejack2@..." <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: thanks for the responses. those do look nice. my rigger suggested them. that's a bit steep, for me. i am on a tight budget....and i weld and fabricate. i was thinking of making my own. i built my own chopper, fabricating 85% of the parts, so i am thinking the spreaders shoud be no problem. sailor 7312, you said you made dimensional drawings of your spreaders...you wouldn't still have a copy of them laying around, would you? that's exactly what i am looking for. that, or someone with ond of the originals laying around. thanks guys. vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : Vince, I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). Steve Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace Chicago, IL From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailor7312 . Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. vince This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. 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there aren't any plces with one in nabbs creek, where my boat is berthed, that i know of. there are also few sailboats at the marina, yet. i actually don't know any sailors. i've always just gone sailing and haven't been involved, socially, in the local sailing community. kind of regretting that, now. lol. i have to give everything you guys have said a lot of thought and see what way seems best in my situation. i admit, working on the mast on the ground would be easiest but getting it there might be difficult for me by myself and expensive to find someone with a crane. the water is so shallow near the shore, at my marina, that i can't really get the boat very close. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <vectormenow@...> wrote : Many yacht clubs and marinas have a dry yard with a hoist to launch and recover trailer stored boats. Often at low tide it is possible to use the hoist. Attach a double loop line around the mast and under the spreaders and lift the mast at the balance point. As mentioned before two "buddy boats" can tie alongside with your Cal 27 in between and lift your spar on their halyards using the same looped line under the spreaders. My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 On Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:25 AM, mike farrell <vectormenow@...> wrote: Working from a chair aloft is dangerous and difficult. There is no good reason to do it if you don't have to. It takes much more time and energy to do the same job and the result may not be as thorough. There are lots of ways to pull a mast and a deck stepped mast is shorter than a keel stepped one. It is so much easier and safer to work on your mast on two sawhorses in the yard. You will have time to go over you mast to check for corrosion and wear not to mention that when you drop something it can be picked up, not lost. Your mast step is a area of concern that may be corroded inside that can only be inspected when the spar is removed. I have been crew in 3 dismastings and skipper in 2. It is costly and frustrating and is preventable. Do it right! Do it once! You will find lots more jobs that need doing when your spar is down. My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:55 PM, Kris Jensen <criswak@...> wrote: For the spreaders, don't dismiss your standard 20 ft extension ladder. Rig up a way to brace/attach it to the mast and work either from the foredeck or cockpit, whichever seems more secure. Depending on how they are attached at the ends of the spreaders, once you take the inside end loose, you may be able to just slide the outer end down the shroud to deck level to take that end off. From: "motorcyclejack2@..." <motorcyclejack2@...> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 4:47 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: cal 27 mast the rigger originally said about taking the mast down. his suggestion was to find a company to do it. the marina doesn't have the capability. it's tied beside a rickety finger pier ( the marina is still in the midst of renovations ). i will have to consider all the options you have given me. obviously, from a working on it standpoint, taking it down would be easiest/best. on the other hand, in it's berth, taking it down might be a bit difficult. tiny finger pier attached to a narrow dock. if it can be done while the mast is up....it's something i have to think about. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : thanks guys. you are really informative. i saved the youtube video of taking the mast down....in case i need to do it that way. it's good to know i can replace the sheaves without taking down the mast. i will definately check out your mast climbing method. you guys may just make this an affordable task. thank you all very much. i am glad i looked into this yahoo group. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : Of course you can change the sheaves with the mast up. Just do it before you take the rigging off. If you are trying to do both tasks at the same time for some reason, just tie off some other lines to support the mast and use them instead of the halyards. It just means multiple trips up the mast. But my climbing method makes that easy so check that out. Be careful not to drop the sheaves. I would suggest you use a lot of masking tape so they cannot fall if you get the pin out and let go. Allen On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:51 AM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: no. that's a silly thought. without the halyards you couldn't climb the mast. none of the other lines on the mast will take you that high. too early in the morning for my brain to be functioning. it's not awake yet. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : that's how i was going to do it. the rigger was saying to take the mast down to do it. i wondered why that was necessary so i did an internet search and found a blog where a guy was saying exactly what you suggested. out of curiosity, can the masthead sheaves be replaced without dropping the mast, too? vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : Just rig two halyards to take the load of the uppers, loosen the uppers, and climb up and get the spreaders. If you don't want to use your halyards, climb up and tie some lines up there somewhere. I certainly would not take my mast down to replace the spreaders, or the rigging for that matter. Your weight is nothing compared to the forces that mast is designed to take. This should not even be an issue. Allen On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: i found a way, in another on line source, to change them without removing the stick and my rigger thinks it will work. my marina doesn't have the equipment to remove a mast so i want to avoid the extra complication and cost. i will try to measure mine, while they are still on the mast. if i can get up there, that should work just fine. that way i can do the whole spreader swap at one time. i find it odd that there could be that much variation in spreader length from boat to boat, of the same model. i could see a half an inch, or so, but it's a bit weird for it to be such a substantial difference. i was hoping to make things a bit easier by getting specs for the spreaders. but it is what it is. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <vectormenow@...> wrote : What Cal group members are telling you is that no 2 Cal boats are alike. You may find that after you have made spreaders from a drawing, they will not fit. Take down your mast and use your spreaders for a pattern. This is the only way to be sure they will fit. My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:15 PM, "motorcyclejack2@..." <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: thanks for the responses. those do look nice. my rigger suggested them. that's a bit steep, for me. i am on a tight budget....and i weld and fabricate. i was thinking of making my own. i built my own chopper, fabricating 85% of the parts, so i am thinking the spreaders shoud be no problem. sailor 7312, you said you made dimensional drawings of your spreaders...you wouldn't still have a copy of them laying around, would you? that's exactly what i am looking for. that, or someone with ond of the originals laying around. thanks guys. vince ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : Vince, I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). Steve Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace Chicago, IL From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailor7312 . Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@... mailto:motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. vince This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. 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Get two other boater to help tie them off on both sides then use their main line to both stabilize your mast and lift it then using both to lower it to deck. Do the work that needs to be done and reverse the process. Would not be the first time it has been done. Great reason to raftup and meet and greet others \ From: Kris Jensen <cr… [at] att.net> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: cal 27 mast For the spreaders, don't dismiss your standard 20 ft extension ladder. Rig up a way to brace/attach it to the mast and work either from the foredeck or cockpit, whichever seems more secure. Depending on how they are attached at the ends of the spreaders, once you take the inside end loose, you may be able to just slide the outer end down the shroud to deck level to take that end off. From: "mo… [at] aol.com" <mo… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 4:47 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: cal 27 mast the rigger originally said about taking the mast down. his suggestion was to find a company to do it. the marina doesn't have the capability. it's tied beside a rickety finger pier ( the marina is still in the midst of renovations ). i will have to consider all the options you have given me. obviously, from a working on it standpoint, taking it down would be easiest/best. on the other hand, in it's berth, taking it down might be a bit difficult. tiny finger pier attached to a narrow dock. if it can be done while the mast is up....it's something i have to think about. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : thanks guys. you are really informative. i saved the youtube video of taking the mast down....in case i need to do it that way. it's good to know i can replace the sheaves without taking down the mast. i will definately check out your mast climbing method. you guys may just make this an affordable task. thank you all very much. i am glad i looked into this yahoo group. ---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : Of course you can change the sheaves with the mast up. Just do it before you take the rigging off. If you are trying to do both tasks at the same time for some reason, just tie off some other lines to support the mast and use them instead of the halyards. It just means multiple trips up the mast. But my climbing method makes that easy so check that out. Be careful not to drop the sheaves. I would suggest you use a lot of masking tape so they cannot fall if you get the pin out and let go. Allen On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:51 AM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>>no. that's a silly thought. without the halyards you couldn't climb the mast. none of the other lines on the mast will take you that high. too early in the morning for my brain to be functioning. it's not awake yet. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : >>> >>>that's how i was going to do it. the rigger was saying to take the mast down to do it. i wondered why that was necessary so i did an internet search and found a blog where a guy was saying exactly what you suggested. out of curiosity, can the masthead sheaves be replaced without dropping the mast, too? >>> >>> >>>vince >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <allen.p.edwards@...> wrote : >>>Just rig two halyards to take the load of the uppers, loosen the uppers, and climb up and get the spreaders. If you don't want to use your halyards, climb up and tie some lines up there somewhere. I certainly would not take my mast down to replace the spreaders, or the rigging for that matter. Your weight is nothing compared to the forces that mast is designed to take. This should not even be an issue. >>> >>> >>>Allen >>>On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>i found a way, in another on line source, to change them without removing the stick and my rigger thinks it will work. my marina doesn't have the equipment to remove a mast so i want to avoid the extra complication and cost. i will try to measure mine, while they are still on the mast. if i can get up there, that should work just fine. that way i can do the whole spreader swap at one time. i find it odd that there could be that much variation in spreader length from boat to boat, of the same model. i could see a half an inch, or so, but it's a bit weird for it to be such a substantial difference. i was hoping to make things a bit easier by getting specs for the spreaders. but it is what it is. >>>>>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <vectormenow@...> wrote : >>>>>> What Cal group members are telling you is that no 2 Cal boats are alike. You may find that after you have made spreaders from a drawing, they will not fit. Take down your mast and use your spreaders for a pattern. This is the only way to be sure they will fit. >>>>>> My Best, Yellow Jack US57313 >>>>>>On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:15 PM, "motorcyclejack2@..." <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>thanks for the responses. those do look nice. my rigger suggested them. that's a bit steep, for me. i am on a tight budget....and i weld and fabricate. i was thinking of making my own. i built my own chopper, fabricating 85% of the parts, so i am thinking the spreaders shoud be no problem. sailor 7312, you said you made dimensional drawings of your spreaders...you wouldn't still have a copy of them laying around, would you? that's exactly what i am looking for. that, or someone with ond of the originals laying around. thanks guys. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>vince >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <steven.j.urbanski@...> wrote : >>>>>>Vince, >>>>>> >>>>>>I also have a 27’ pop-top. JSI fabricated a set of spreaders several years ago. I did, however, send them my old ones for use as a template. They are absolutely gorgeous (see attached). >>>>>> >>>>>>Steve >>>>>>Cal 27 #141 Elizabeth Grace >>>>>>Chicago, IL >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>From:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailor7312 . >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:43 PM >>>>>>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 27 mast >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I have a cal 29 and have used these guys to replace my wood spreaders with alum. I thought the price was reasonable and I liked the product. I removed mine, made a dimensioned drawing, sent pictures w a tape measure so they could check my drawing and they shipped me the product. >>>>>>http://www.newjsi.com/spars.aspx >>>>>> >>>>>>On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>hi folks. i'm new here. i have a question for you. i have a 1971 cal 27...the pop top. i need to replace my spreaders. i'd like to make the new ones before i remove the old ones, to expedite matters. i can't find very much info on these boats anywhere. i would like to find the specs for them. if anyone has replaced them and knows the specs, or where i could find them, ithat would be great. the other thing i was thinking would be if anyone knew the mast manufacturer they used in making cals. the company that made the spars might also have the specs. thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>vince >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. 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