RE: [Cal_Boats] wind vane

Paul, dead down wind, I agree the arrow is very valuable, but once again, I don’t think the vanes do much. I am used to gauging from the arrow. I also note that, on many boats, the vanes end up out of alignment, and it is a PITA to redo them. It is Day One of the NOODs in Annapolis. Over ¾ of the boats are Js (mostly 70s and 80s). Sigh… Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pw… [at] aol.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:38 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [External] [Cal_Boats] wind vane I have to respectfully agree/disagree with Charlie. I would put them up there but not depend on them for how you are sailing but merely as a quicker reference as to how well you are or are not pointing. It will take some experience but you'll know at a glance whether or not you're pointing as you should. It also helps if you turn over the tiller to someone for a bit. You can say "you should be able to keep the tail an inch inside the vane instead "keep the arrow at 10:30ish and we'll be fine". Also helps a great deal when sailing downwind, especially dead down, as the arrow will slip over a second or two before an accidental gybe. Just enough time to correct and/or yell DUCK!! My 2 cents. Paul From: Husar, Charlie [USA] (ASE) [USA] (ASE) <hu… [at] bah.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thu, May 1, 2014 9:40 pm Subject: RE: [External] [Cal_Boats] wind vane Jim, I suggest you not use them. I never do. I just want to know where the apparent wind is coming from (the arrow). Your closed hauled angle will change a lot based on wind speed and water slop. Better to watch the sail rather than the feathers. I do look at the arrow angle frequently. My Two Cents Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?>] On Behalf Of Kool Beans Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 9:29 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: [External] [Cal_Boats] wind vane Greets everyone,,, Thank you all for the great advice for cleaning my engine compartment. I will be installing a wind vane at the top of the mast and need to know the angle to set the vanes to. The vane comes with a template to adjust the tabs, and can be spread out to 65 degrees max. Does anyone know what the tacking arm angle should be to match the performance of my Cal 2-29? Is there a difference for racing and cruising? What would be a good median? Thanks again for any advice! Happy Sailing Jim Ives - Kool Beans Rochester, NY