Farymann stuff - Free to a good home

I recently stumbled across some Farymann manuals and a couple of couplers that I've had laying around. I'll be happy to send them to anyone still running a Farymann for the cost of shipping. I'm not even sure how hard the vulcanized rubber couplers are to find anymore, but the last time I bought one about 10 years ago it cost about $300. After the last one gave away I had a custom coupler made. The first generation coupler used a total of 6 bushings between 3 aluminum rings; the second generation upped the bushing count to 8 and slightly reduced the ring diameter. The first gen piece needs some slight machining to fit properly - we used one of the rings for another coupler and never got around to finishing the replacement ring. You can see the first gen installed here --> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/photos/albums/2056938998/lightbox/423692504?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/423692504 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/photos/albums/2056938998/lightbox/423692504?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/423692504 Everything is FOB SoCal; if you're in the Seal Beach/Long Beach area I'll be happy to meet you in Alamitos Bay. Ping me off-list if interested.

I would love to scan them and put them online. I don't think I have them. http://l-36.com/manuals.php Allen On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:14 AM, ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com [Cal_Boats] < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > [Attachment(s) <#1479c7023879fa18_TopText> from > ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com [Cal_Boats] included below] > > I recently stumbled across some Farymann manuals and a couple of couplers > that I've had laying around. I'll be happy to send them to anyone still > running a Farymann for the cost of shipping. > > > > I'm not even sure how hard the vulcanized rubber couplers are to find > anymore, but the last time I bought one about 10 years ago it cost about > $300. After the last one gave away I had a custom coupler made. > > > > The first generation coupler used a total of 6 bushings between 3 aluminum > rings; the second generation upped the bushing count to 8 and slightly > reduced the ring diameter. > > > > The first gen piece needs some slight machining to fit properly - we used > one of the rings for another coupler and never got around to finishing the > replacement ring. You can see the first gen installed here --> > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/photos/albums/2056938998/lightbox/423692504?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/423692504 > > > > Everything is FOB SoCal; if you're in the Seal Beach/Long Beach area I'll > be happy to meet you in Alamitos Bay. > > > > Ping me off-list if interested. > > > > > > >

A matter of complete frivolity, but wondering what people do for salon curtains when the cabin house walls are only ~3/16" fiberglass with no core or liner and thus don't have enough meat to screw a curtain track into. I made some cheap curtains with velcro and hot-glued velcro strips to the fiberglass, but those have been failing. I assume the only options are: (1) epoxy curtain tracks, or strips of hardwood to serve as a base to which tracks will be screwed, to the house walls. I suspect this will eventually fail after enough twisting, bouncing, and solar heating/cooling that is part of a boat's existence (2) Screw through the outside into track/hardwood track base, ideally countersinking the heads and then puttying, sanding, and painting over. Seems a bit excessive. Any other ideas? How are your boats curtain-ified? Thanks, Adam Cal 2-27 From: "Allen Edwards al… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Farymann stuff - Free to a good home I would love to scan them and put them online. I don't think I have them. http://l-36.com/manuals.php Allen On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:14 AM, ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >[Attachment(s) from ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com [Cal_Boats] included below] >I recently stumbled across some Farymann manuals and a couple of couplers that I've had laying around. I'll be happy to send them to anyone still running a Farymann for the cost of shipping. > >I'm not even sure how hard the vulcanized rubber couplers are to find anymore, but the last time I bought one about 10 years ago it cost about $300. After the last one gave away I had a custom coupler made. > >The first generation coupler used a total of 6 bushings between 3 aluminum rings; the second generation upped the bushing count to 8 and slightly reduced the ring diameter. > >The first gen piece needs some slight machining to fit properly - we used one of the rings for another coupler and never got around to finishing the replacement ring. You can see the first gen installed here --> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/photos/albums/2056938998/lightbox/423692504?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/423692504 > >Everything is FOB SoCal; if you're in the Seal Beach/Long Beach area I'll be happy to meet you in Alamitos Bay. > >Ping me off-list if interested. > >

Perhaps this is a use for 5200. They won't come off if you use it. Personally, I hate the stuff because you can't get anything apart after using it but in this case I think it might be a good fit. Allen On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Adam as… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > A matter of complete frivolity, but wondering what people do for salon > curtains when the cabin house walls are only ~3/16" fiberglass with no core > or liner and thus don't have enough meat to screw a curtain track into. I > made some cheap curtains with velcro and hot-glued velcro strips to the > fiberglass, but those have been failing. > I assume the only options are: > (1) epoxy curtain tracks, or strips of hardwood to serve as a base to > which tracks will be screwed, to the house walls. I suspect this will > eventually fail after enough twisting, bouncing, and solar heating/cooling > that is part of a boat's existence > (2) Screw through the outside into track/hardwood track base, ideally > countersinking the heads and then puttying, sanding, and painting over. > Seems a bit excessive. > > Any other ideas? How are your boats curtain-ified? > Thanks, > Adam > Cal 2-27 > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "Allen Edwards al… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *To:* "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:34 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Farymann stuff - Free to a good home > > > I would love to scan them and put them online. I don't think I have > them. > http://l-36.com/manuals.php > > Allen > > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:14 AM, ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > [Attachment(s) > <https://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=cpn09fhpi4sgs#1479c7023879fa18_TopText> > from ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com [Cal_Boats] included below] > I recently stumbled across some Farymann manuals and a couple of couplers > that I've had laying around. I'll be happy to send them to anyone still > running a Farymann for the cost of shipping. > > I'm not even sure how hard the vulcanized rubber couplers are to find > anymore, but the last time I bought one about 10 years ago it cost about > $300. After the last one gave away I had a custom coupler made. > > The first generation coupler used a total of 6 bushings between 3 aluminum > rings; the second generation upped the bushing count to 8 and slightly > reduced the ring diameter. > > The first gen piece needs some slight machining to fit properly - we used > one of the rings for another coupler and never got around to finishing the > replacement ring. You can see the first gen installed here --> > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/photos/albums/2056938998/lightbox/423692504?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/423692504 > > Everything is FOB SoCal; if you're in the Seal Beach/Long Beach area I'll > be happy to meet you in Alamitos Bay. > > Ping me off-list if interested. > > > > > > > >

On 8/4/2014 3:01 PM, Adam as… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > A matter of complete frivolity, but wondering what people do for salon > curtains when the cabin house walls are only ~3/16" fiberglass with no > core or liner and thus don't have enough meat to screw a curtain track > into. I am grinning. Many years ago, when we first had my other boat, my father and brother and I were planning a great voyage of discovery around Lake Huron's Saginaw Bay. Dad perceived that we'd have little privacy at the marinas without curtains, so my mother stitched up some of suitable size, and Dad (who rarely had time for such things) arranged curtain rods. He epoxied some house-type rod holders to the un-lined fiberglass cabin sides. The concept was workable but the execution wasn't, because the previous owner had painted the interior. The glue held but the paint didn't, so the rods fell off. That was 45 years ago and making better arrangements is still on my to-do list. As you can see, I've had a long time to think about it. My conclusion is that any curtain holders must be secured to some wood pads or strips, depending on the actual device chosen, to give a larger gluing surface and something to run screws into. More importantly, that non-tenacious paint must be removed in the way of the wood pads or strips. I don't think that the pads or strips will fail, because they're actually secured to a relatively small surface area, and any movement in the substrate isn't likely to stress them very much. Chris Campbell

Sara E's curtain holders are screwed into wood pads epoxied to the house walls, as Chris suggests. They've worked for the 9 years we've owned the boat, and apparently many years before. When one falls off (every couple of years it happens) I just clean up the attachment surfaces and re-epoxy. Bill Symes S/V Sara E Cal Cruising 36 On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:01 PM, "Adam as… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > A matter of complete frivolity, but wondering what people do for salon curtains when the cabin house walls are only ~3/16" fiberglass with no core or liner and thus don't have enough meat to screw a curtain track into. I made some cheap curtains with velcro and hot-glued velcro strips to the fiberglass, but those have been failing. > I assume the only options are: > (1) epoxy curtain tracks, or strips of hardwood to serve as a base to which tracks will be screwed, to the house walls. I suspect this will eventually fail after enough twisting, bouncing, and solar heating/cooling that is part of a boat's existence > (2) Screw through the outside into track/hardwood track base, ideally countersinking the heads and then puttying, sanding, and painting over. Seems a bit excessive. > > Any other ideas? How are your boats curtain-ified? > Thanks, > Adam > Cal 2-27 > > From: "Allen Edwards al… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:34 AM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Farymann stuff - Free to a good home > > > I would love to scan them and put them online. I don't think I have them. > http://l-36.com/manuals.php > > Allen > > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:14 AM, ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > [Attachment(s) from ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com [Cal_Boats] included below] > I recently stumbled across some Farymann manuals and a couple of couplers that I've had laying around. I'll be happy to send them to anyone still running a Farymann for the cost of shipping. > > I'm not even sure how hard the vulcanized rubber couplers are to find anymore, but the last time I bought one about 10 years ago it cost about $300. After the last one gave away I had a custom coupler made. > > The first generation coupler used a total of 6 bushings between 3 aluminum rings; the second generation upped the bushing count to 8 and slightly reduced the ring diameter. > > The first gen piece needs some slight machining to fit properly - we used one of the rings for another coupler and never got around to finishing the replacement ring. You can see the first gen installed here --> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/photos/albums/2056938998/lightbox/423692504?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/423692504 > > Everything is FOB SoCal; if you're in the Seal Beach/Long Beach area I'll be happy to meet you in Alamitos Bay. > > Ping me off-list if interested. > > > > > > >

Bill ... Just the same way we did it when we had a Cal-34. Worked fine. Are you related to Symes Cadillac of Pasadena ? Are you that Bill Symes ? Fin Beven Cal-40 No. 24 Radiant San Pedro, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: William Symes ls… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]<mailto:ls… [at] sbcglobal.net%20[Cal_Boats]> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cabin curtains Sara E's curtain holders are screwed into wood pads epoxied to the house walls, as Chris suggests. They've worked for the 9 years we've owned the boat, and apparently many years before. When one falls off (every couple of years it happens) I just clean up the attachment surfaces and re-epoxy. Bill Symes S/V Sara E Cal Cruising 36 On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:01 PM, "Adam as… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:as… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: A matter of complete frivolity, but wondering what people do for salon curtains when the cabin house walls are only ~3/16" fiberglass with no core or liner and thus don't have enough meat to screw a curtain track into. I made some cheap curtains with velcro and hot-glued velcro strips to the fiberglass, but those have been failing. I assume the only options are: (1) epoxy curtain tracks, or strips of hardwood to serve as a base to which tracks will be screwed, to the house walls. I suspect this will eventually fail after enough twisting, bouncing, and solar heating/cooling that is part of a boat's existence (2) Screw through the outside into track/hardwood track base, ideally countersinking the heads and then puttying, sanding, and painting over. Seems a bit excessive. Any other ideas? How are your boats curtain-ified? Thanks, Adam Cal 2-27 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Allen Edwards al… [at] gmail.com<mailto:al… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Farymann stuff - Free to a good home I would love to scan them and put them online. I don't think I have them. http://l-36.com/manuals.php<http://l-36.com/manuals.php> Allen On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:14 AM, ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com<mailto:ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: [Attachment(s)<https://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=cpn09fhpi4sgs#1479c7023879fa18_TopText> from ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com<mailto:ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com> [Cal_Boats] included below] I recently stumbled across some Farymann manuals and a couple of couplers that I've had laying around. I'll be happy to send them to anyone still running a Farymann for the cost of shipping. I'm not even sure how hard the vulcanized rubber couplers are to find anymore, but the last time I bought one about 10 years ago it cost about $300. After the last one gave away I had a custom coupler made. The first generation coupler used a total of 6 bushings between 3 aluminum rings; the second generation upped the bushing count to 8 and slightly reduced the ring diameter. The first gen piece needs some slight machining to fit properly - we used one of the rings for another coupler and never got around to finishing the replacement ring. You can see the first gen installed here --> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/photos/albums/2056938998/lightbox/423692504?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/423692504<https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/photos/albums/2056938998/lightbox/423692504?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/423692504> Everything is FOB SoCal; if you're in the Seal Beach/Long Beach area I'll be happy to meet you in Alamitos Bay. Ping me off-list if interested.

Thanks for all the responses! Sounds like epoxying a few bits of wood where needed and screwing rod bases or track to them is the way to go. From: "'Fin' fi… [at] msn.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cabin curtains Bill ... Just the same way we did it when we had a Cal-34. Worked fine. Are you related to Symes Cadillac of Pasadena ? Are you that Bill Symes ? Fin Beven Cal-40 No. 24 Radiant San Pedro, CA >From: William Symes ls… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats] >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 1:08 PM >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cabin curtains > >Sara E's curtain holders are screwed into wood pads epoxied to the house walls, as Chris suggests. They've worked for the 9 years we've owned the boat, and apparently many years before. When one falls off (every couple of years it happens) I just clean up the attachment surfaces and re-epoxy. > > >Bill Symes >S/V Sara E >Cal Cruising 36 > > > >On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:01 PM, "Adam as… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > >> >> >>A matter of complete frivolity, but wondering what people do for salon curtains when the cabin house walls are only ~3/16" fiberglass with no core or liner and thus don't have enough meat to screw a curtain track into. I made some cheap curtains with velcro and hot-glued velcro strips to the fiberglass, but those have been failing. >> >>I assume the only options are: >> >>(1) epoxy curtain tracks, or strips of hardwood to serve as a base to which tracks will be screwed, to the house walls. I suspect this will eventually fail after enough twisting, bouncing, and solar heating/cooling that is part of a boat's existence >>(2) Screw through the outside into track/hardwood track base, ideally countersinking the heads and then puttying, sanding, and painting over. Seems a bit excessive. >> >> >>Any other ideas? How are your boats curtain-ified? >>Thanks, >>Adam >>Cal 2-27 >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: "Allen Edwards al… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >>To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >>Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:34 AM >>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Farymann stuff - Free to a good home >> >> >> >> >>I would love to scan them and put them online. I don't think I have them. >>http://l-36.com/manuals.php >> >> >> >>Allen >> >> >> >>On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:14 AM, ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >>>[Attachment(s) from ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com [Cal_Boats] included below] >>>I recently stumbled across some Farymann manuals and a couple of couplers that I've had laying around. I'll be happy to send them to anyone still running a Farymann for the cost of shipping. >>> >>>I'm not even sure how hard the vulcanized rubber couplers are to find anymore, but the last time I bought one about 10 years ago it cost about $300. After the last one gave away I had a custom coupler made. >>> >>>The first generation coupler used a total of 6 bushings between 3 aluminum rings; the second generation upped the bushing count to 8 and slightly reduced the ring diameter. >>> >>>The first gen piece needs some slight machining to fit properly - we used one of the rings for another coupler and never got around to finishing the replacement ring. You can see the first gen installed here --> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/photos/albums/2056938998/lightbox/423692504?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/423692504 >>> >>>Everything is FOB SoCal; if you're in the Seal Beach/Long Beach area I'll be happy to meet you in Alamitos Bay. >>> >>>Ping me off-list if interested. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >

3M makes an industrial strength double sided tape. Not a marine use, but a solar installer I am aware of uses it to stick mounting brackets for solar panels to trailer roofs. He says he has installed hundreds and has never had one come loose. We are talking 10 or 12 square feet of solar panel on four brackets with bases on the order of 1"x2". Al > On Aug 4, 2014, at 3:01 PM, "Adam as… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > A matter of complete frivolity, but wondering what people do for salon curtains when the cabin house walls are only ~3/16" fiberglass with no core or liner and thus don't have enough meat to screw a curtain track into. I made some cheap curtains with velcro and hot-glued velcro strips to the fiberglass, but those have been failing. > I assume the only options are: > (1) epoxy curtain tracks, or strips of hardwood to serve as a base to which tracks will be screwed, to the house walls. I suspect this will eventually fail after enough twisting, bouncing, and solar heating/cooling that is part of a boat's existence > (2) Screw through the outside into track/hardwood track base, ideally countersinking the heads and then puttying, sanding, and painting over. Seems a bit excessive. > > Any other ideas? How are your boats curtain-ified? > Thanks, > Adam > Cal 2-27 > > From: "Allen Edwards al… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:34 AM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Farymann stuff - Free to a good home > > > I would love to scan them and put them online. I don't think I have them. > http://l-36.com/manuals.php > > Allen > > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:14 AM, ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > [Attachment(s) from ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com [Cal_Boats] included below] > I recently stumbled across some Farymann manuals and a couple of couplers that I've had laying around. I'll be happy to send them to anyone still running a Farymann for the cost of shipping. > > I'm not even sure how hard the vulcanized rubber couplers are to find anymore, but the last time I bought one about 10 years ago it cost about $300. After the last one gave away I had a custom coupler made. > > The first generation coupler used a total of 6 bushings between 3 aluminum rings; the second generation upped the bushing count to 8 and slightly reduced the ring diameter. > > The first gen piece needs some slight machining to fit properly - we used one of the rings for another coupler and never got around to finishing the replacement ring. You can see the first gen installed here --> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/photos/albums/2056938998/lightbox/423692504?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/423692504 > > Everything is FOB SoCal; if you're in the Seal Beach/Long Beach area I'll be happy to meet you in Alamitos Bay. > > Ping me off-list if interested. > > > > > >

At the risk of repeating myself, 3M 5200 would be a better choice than epoxy. You won't have to re-epoxy it ever. It will never fall off. m Just make sure you get the paint off under it. But even when you decide you want to remove it, it isn't coming off. But the epoxy really should not come off either if done correctly. It is just that the 5200 has a little give to it. Allen On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Al Waschka aw… [at] bellsouth.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > 3M makes an industrial strength double sided tape. Not a marine use, but > a solar installer I am aware of uses it to stick mounting brackets for > solar panels to trailer roofs. He says he has installed hundreds and has > never had one come loose. We are talking 10 or 12 square feet of solar > panel on four brackets with bases on the order of 1"x2". > > Al > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 4, 2014, at 3:01 PM, "Adam as… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > A matter of complete frivolity, but wondering what people do for salon > curtains when the cabin house walls are only ~3/16" fiberglass with no core > or liner and thus don't have enough meat to screw a curtain track into. I > made some cheap curtains with velcro and hot-glued velcro strips to the > fiberglass, but those have been failing. > I assume the only options are: > (1) epoxy curtain tracks, or strips of hardwood to serve as a base to > which tracks will be screwed, to the house walls. I suspect this will > eventually fail after enough twisting, bouncing, and solar heating/cooling > that is part of a boat's existence > (2) Screw through the outside into track/hardwood track base, ideally > countersinking the heads and then puttying, sanding, and painting over. > Seems a bit excessive. > > Any other ideas? How are your boats curtain-ified? > Thanks, > Adam > Cal 2-27 > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "Allen Edwards al… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *To:* "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:34 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Farymann stuff - Free to a good home > > > I would love to scan them and put them online. I don't think I have > them. > http://l-36.com/manuals.php > > Allen > > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:14 AM, ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > [Attachment(s) > <https://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=cpn09fhpi4sgs#1479c7023879fa18_TopText> > from ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com [Cal_Boats] included below] > I recently stumbled across some Farymann manuals and a couple of couplers > that I've had laying around. I'll be happy to send them to anyone still > running a Farymann for the cost of shipping. > > I'm not even sure how hard the vulcanized rubber couplers are to find > anymore, but the last time I bought one about 10 years ago it cost about > $300. After the last one gave away I had a custom coupler made. > > The first generation coupler used a total of 6 bushings between 3 aluminum > rings; the second generation upped the bushing count to 8 and slightly > reduced the ring diameter. > > The first gen piece needs some slight machining to fit properly - we used > one of the rings for another coupler and never got around to finishing the > replacement ring. You can see the first gen installed here --> > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/photos/albums/2056938998/lightbox/423692504?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/423692504 > > Everything is FOB SoCal; if you're in the Seal Beach/Long Beach area I'll > be happy to meet you in Alamitos Bay. > > Ping me off-list if interested. > > > > > > > >

Adam, If you have the type of windows with plastic frames that are screwed together from the inside, that many Cal's have, you can mount curtain tracks to battens fixed to the top and bottom edges of the window frames with slightly longer screws. I replaced the original Cal 39 curtains and the metal tracks and slides with new curtains using the plastic/snap slides available from WM in this manner. Regards, Duane Knize S/V Marlyn 1978 Cal2-39 #18 On 8/4/2014 3:33 PM, Adam as… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > Thanks for all the responses! Sounds like epoxying a few bits of wood > where needed and screwing rod bases or track to them is the way to go. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* "'Fin' fi… [at] msn.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2014 3:15 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Cabin curtains > > Bill ... Just the same way we did it when we had a Cal-34. Worked fine. > Are you related to Symes Cadillac of Pasadena ? Are you that Bill > Symes ? > Fin Beven > Cal-40 No. 24 > Radiant > San Pedro, CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* William Symes ls… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats] > <mailto:ls… [at] sbcglobal.net%20[Cal_Boats]> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Monday, August 04, 2014 1:08 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Cabin curtains > > Sara E's curtain holders are screwed into wood pads epoxied to the > house walls, as Chris suggests. They've worked for the 9 years > we've owned the boat, and apparently many years before. When one > falls off (every couple of years it happens) I just clean up the > attachment surfaces and re-epoxy. > > Bill Symes > S/V Sara E > Cal Cruising 36 > > On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:01 PM, "Adam as… [at] yahoo.com > <mailto:as… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > >> >> A matter of complete frivolity, but wondering what people do for >> salon curtains when the cabin house walls are only ~3/16" >> fiberglass with no core or liner and thus don't have enough meat >> to screw a curtain track into. I made some cheap curtains with >> velcro and hot-glued velcro strips to the fiberglass, but those >> have been failing. >> I assume the only options are: >> (1) epoxy curtain tracks, or strips of hardwood to serve as a >> base to which tracks will be screwed, to the house walls. I >> suspect this will eventually fail after enough twisting, >> bouncing, and solar heating/cooling that is part of a boat's >> existence >> (2) Screw through the outside into track/hardwood track base, >> ideally countersinking the heads and then puttying, sanding, and >> painting over. Seems a bit excessive. >> >> Any other ideas? How are your boats curtain-ified? >> Thanks, >> Adam >> Cal 2-27 >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* "Allen Edwards al… [at] gmail.com >> <mailto:al… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats]" >> <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> >> *To:* "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:34 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Farymann stuff - Free to a good home >> >> I would love to scan them and put them online. I don't think I >> have them. >> http://l-36.com/manuals.php >> >> Allen >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:14 AM, ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com >> <mailto:ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com> [Cal_Boats] >> <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >> >> [Attachment(s) >> <https://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=cpn09fhpi4sgs#1479c7023879fa18_TopText> >> from ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com >> <mailto:ja… [at] jacaldwellinc.com> [Cal_Boats] included >> below] >> I recently stumbled across some Farymann manuals and a couple >> of couplers that I've had laying around. I'll be happy to >> send them to anyone still running a Farymann for the cost of >> shipping. >> I'm not even sure how hard the vulcanized rubber couplers are >> to find anymore, but the last time I bought one about 10 >> years ago it cost about $300. After the last one gave away I >> had a custom coupler made. >> The first generation coupler used a total of 6 bushings >> between 3 aluminum rings; the second generation upped the >> bushing count to 8 and slightly reduced the ring diameter. >> The first gen piece needs some slight machining to fit >> properly - we used one of the rings for another coupler and >> never got around to finishing the replacement ring. You can >> see the first gen installed here --> >> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/photos/albums/2056938998/lightbox/423692504?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/423692504 >> Everything is FOB SoCal; if you're in the Seal Beach/Long >> Beach area I'll be happy to meet you in Alamitos Bay. >> Ping me off-list if interested. >> >> >> >> >> > > > >

A previous owner of my rig solved the problem by putting in windows with a faux stained glass look to them. Light in but lots of privacy! I'm replacing the now leaky things, but couldn't find a similar design. So I'm planning on picking up decals to accomplish the same thing. Anne Racel 4 Degrees http://boatjournal.stuffandjunk.net

Anyone, What's the word on Paul's keel-to-hull joint crack? Tap, tap, tap... Paul, are you out there? Michael

On 8/5/2014 7:06 AM, am… [at] stuffandjunk.net [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > A previous owner of my rig solved the problem by putting in windows > with a faux stained glass look to them. Light in but lots of privacy! On the other hand, there are times when you want to be able to see out from below. Curtains let you choose when there's visibility and when there's not. I single-hand a lot, so I'm the only crew. It's nice to be able to view what's happening around you. Chris Campbell

Hey Michael - Repair is done and we splashed just after the 4th of July. Took way longer to repair than I wanted but that's what happens when you can't work on it everyday. I have to pull all the pics off my phone and post them one of these days. I ended up adding 4 layers of new glass on the inside and I think it took about 11 layers on the outside. Giant pain in the arse working over your head. Use the fast setting epoxy if you have to do the same thing. Paul From: Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Aug 5, 2014 10:23 am Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Adventure Kwest Anyone, What's the word on Paul's keel-to-hull joint crack? Tap, tap, tap... Paul, are you out there? Michael