33-2: Windlass options?

Quick question for Cal 33-2 owners or anyone else in the know. I'm a year or so away from the purchase of a 33-2 retirement boat and have a anchor management question. Are there any practical options for mounting a windlass on this boat? The wife indicates her preference to man the foredeck instead of the helm during future anchoring operations. But, she's a tiny woman and would benefit greatly from a windlass and some control buttons. Anything to reduce anchoring drama might be worth the investment for us. I looked at a 33-2 a couple of weeks ago and even peeked into the anchor well, but I wasn't really thinking "windlass options" at the time. And, I can't seem to find any detailed photos out there that show this boat's anchor locker. For those of you familiar with the 33-2's foredeck, can you think of a way to mount a windlass up there? The triangular locker seemed to be pretty shallow, so I'm not sure if there's room to mount a windlass inside (without a rebuilding project that would necessarily encroach into the v-berth). On deck, there's a small space behind the anchor locker and forward of the v-berth hatch, but it might be a tight fit to get even the smallest windlass in that spot. Any thoughts on this? Has anyone done this or seen it done? Thanks in advance. John Guthrie, OK

One of the other sister boats in our marina added a windlass for his cruising needs. He glassed in the portion at the foot (head) of the v-berth with a drain above the waterline. I believe he cut the hatch and reinforced for the windlass. Chain went down a forward chain locker, with the remainder of the hatch to access the wiring on the windlass and room for the rhode. I believe he carried 200' chain. He also had to relocate the pump out connection, but added a washdown pump and hose connection in the remaining space. It was a project and not sure if it worked as well as he would have liked. If I remember correctly, the drain was low enough to allow water into the locker on a well-heeled tack. I have looked into the option, but most motorized windlass's have motor/wiring below deck that would be head-banger in the v-berth. Adding a hawsepipe to get the chain below seems too complicated. We have had our cal for 15 years, motoring up the the anchor and just taking up slack as you move up seems effortless. Sometimes on a well sunk anchor, I can cleat he rhode and use the motor to break free the anchor. Once the anchor is free lifting it on deck would be the hard part. (Lifting 35-40 lbs of anchor). I have also thought about a deck mounted winch would work better, just slower. John Raxter > On Dec 7, 2014, at 2:53 PM, jo… [at] teamturpin.org [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Quick question for Cal 33-2 owners or anyone else in the know. I'm a year or so away from the purchase of a 33-2 retirement boat and have a anchor management question. Are there any practical options for mounting a windlass on this boat? The wife indicates her preference to man the foredeck instead of the helm during future anchoring operations. But, she's a tiny woman and would benefit greatly from a windlass and some control buttons. Anything to reduce anchoring drama might be worth the investment for us. > > > > I looked at a 33-2 a couple of weeks ago and even peeked into the anchor well, but I wasn't really thinking "windlass options" at the time. And, I can't seem to find any detailed photos out there that show this boat's anchor locker. For those of you familiar with the 33-2's foredeck, can you think of a way to mount a windlass up there? The triangular locker seemed to be pretty shallow, so I'm not sure if there's room to mount a windlass inside (without a rebuilding project that would necessarily encroach into the v-berth). On deck, there's a small space behind the anchor locker and forward of the v-berth hatch, but it might be a tight fit to get even the smallest windlass in that spot. > > > > Any thoughts on this? Has anyone done this or seen it done? Thanks in advance. > > > > John > > > Guthrie, OK > > > >

Hook a jib halliard to the anchor rhode. I have used this on Alaska Eagle 65 foot s&s Design, ex Flyer, No need for more weight and confusion on foredeck. Motor up, when the rhode is verticle it will come aboard! From: "jo… [at] teamturpin.org [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2014 11:53 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] 33-2: Windlass options? <!-- .yiv3502891411ygrp-photo-title{clear:both;font-size:smaller;height:15px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;width:75px;} div.yiv3502891411ygrp-photo{background-position:center;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-color:white;border:1px solid black;height:62px;width:62px;} div.yiv3502891411photo-title a, div.yiv3502891411photo-title a:active, div.yiv3502891411photo-title a:hover, div.yiv3502891411photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;} div.yiv3502891411attach-table div.yiv3502891411attach-row {clear:both;} div.yiv3502891411attach-table div.yiv3502891411attach-row div {float:left;} p {clear:both;padding:15px 0 3px 0;overflow:hidden;} div.yiv3502891411ygrp-file {width:30px;} div.yiv3502891411attach-table div.yiv3502891411attach-row div div a {text-decoration:none;} div.yiv3502891411attach-table div.yiv3502891411attach-row div div span {font-weight:normal;} div.yiv3502891411ygrp-file-title {font-weight:bold;} --> <!-- {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} {margin-bottom:10px;} .yiv3502891411ad {padding:0 0;} .yiv3502891411ad p {margin:0;} .yiv3502891411ad a {color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;}--> Quick question for Cal 33-2 owners or anyone else in the know. I'm a year or so away from the purchase of a 33-2 retirement boat and have a anchor management question. Are there any practical options for mounting a windlass on this boat? The wife indicates her preference to man the foredeck instead of the helm during future anchoring operations. But, she's a tiny woman and would benefit greatly from a windlass and some control buttons. Anything to reduce anchoring drama might be worth the investment for us. I looked at a 33-2 a couple of weeks ago and even peeked into the anchor well, but I wasn't really thinking "windlass options" at the time. And, I can't seem to find any detailed photos out there that show this boat's anchor locker. For those of you familiar with the 33-2's foredeck, can you think of a way to mount a windlass up there? The triangular locker seemed to be pretty shallow, so I'm not sure if there's room to mount a windlass inside (without a rebuilding project that would necessarily encroach into the v-berth). On deck, there's a small space behind the anchor locker and forward of the v-berth hatch, but it might be a tight fit to get even the smallest windlass in that spot. Any thoughts on this? Has anyone done this or seen it done? Thanks in advance. JohnGuthrie, OK

Thanks for the feedback, gentlemen. John

I agree with John Raxter — any addition of equipment would gravely impinge on the practical use of the v-berth. Since one of the selling points for me for this boat was the length of the v-berth for my 6’ 2” frame changing this was unacceptable. My wife is also slight of stature and we have used a method where I motor while she points in the direction of the rode while she recovers the slack. When the rode is straight below she brings her arm down and uses both hands to cleat the rode on the substantial bow cleats. When she stands from this task I increase throttle slightly and the anchor has always come free. I then slow the boat and she easily hauls the anchor aboard. I do like the idea of the spinnaker halyard as a backup for hauling aboard, but not for breaking the anchor free. I would not want to risk that strain on the top of the mast. After it is broken free hauling the anchor up with the spin halyard certainly would be easy to do. We have cruised all over the Gulf Coast and Chesapeake using this method and have never had to make a second attempt at breaking the anchor out. I have even done this while single handing. I would hate to lose any of the v-berth and the volume of the shallow anchor box easily holds my 250’ of 5/8” rode and 12 feet of chain. Don Dutton 1986 Cal 33-2, “Quantum Evolution” > On Dec 8, 2014, at 7:16 AM, jo… [at] teamturpin.org <mailto:jo… [at] teamturpin.org> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback, gentlemen. > > > John > >