Value of T/2 - was - RE: [Cal_Boats] Off to "Submit" again

Beautiful poetry, Reggie. Also contains the beauty of truth. Cheers Charlie CAL 25 Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 5:38 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Off to "Submit" again old Cals are worth whatever you can get for them. T/2s are great sailing boats, but homely. they have limited appeal. in excellent shape, you would probably feel like you had died and gone to heaven if you could get $9500 for her. lots have sold for $5000or less. each person values "fair condition" differently. poor, fair, good, very good, excellent. with or without trailer, inboard or outboard, etc. if you love the boat and enjoy sailing her, it is worth more to you than you can get for her. if she is just hanging around being a pain to deal with and expensive to keep, give her away for a tax write off or to someone who will love her. also, location counts. I bought mine, an inboard, with trailer for $3000 and if I knew then what I know now I wouldn't have paid that much. I'm glad I was "uneducated" at the time. I might not have bought her and I would have missed out on the things she has taught me, the past 16 summers of sailing, racing, winning, giggles of joy, sighs of pleasure, looks of astonishment as she outsails other boats, sunsets in her cockpit at anchor, evening cruises with friends new and old, feeling of peace as the engine shuts down and the sails fill, smiles as someone new tries the helm and begins to discover sailing. "fair condition"? immeasurable value if you enjoy her, a worthless liability if you don't. pick your number. 1974 Cal 27 T/2 hull number 098, "Knot Ready" to sell her. She waits under 2 feet of recent snow to sail again in the summer. value? priceless! 1969 Cal Cruising 36, "Submit"ing in two days to her call to come spend the next 3 months living on her, sailing her, enjoying her. Reggie _____ To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 05:42:29 +0000 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Off to "Submit" again Hi I have a 72 T/2 and wonder what it is worth. it is in fair condition. Carpe Ocianus Titanium Joe

Hi Reggie Thank you for your response and insight. I failed to mention it is a CAL 27' T2 a 1972 and only has a outboard, I have seven sails and the interior is in fair condition. I have little to no time for her. When I was single ... I spent plenty of time on her. I live in Southern California were I kept her moored and sailed all year round. But now I just don't have the time since I got married. Humm!!! I will try to list it for a couple of grand and see what happens. Thanks again. Carpe Ocianus Titanium Joe On Monday, January 12, 2015 7:12 AM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Beautiful poetry, Reggie. Also contains the beauty of truth. CheersCharlieCAL 25Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 5:38 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Off to "Submit" again old Cals are worth whatever you can get for them. T/2s are great sailing boats, but homely. they have limited appeal. in excellent shape, you would probably feel like you had died and gone to heaven if you could get $9500 for her. lots have sold for $5000or less. each person values "fair condition" differently. poor, fair, good, very good, excellent. with or without trailer, inboard or outboard, etc. if you love the boat and enjoy sailing her, it is worth more to you than you can get for her. if she is just hanging around being a pain to deal with and expensive to keep, give her away for a tax write off or to someone who will love her. also, location counts. I bought mine, an inboard, with trailer for $3000 and if I knew then what I know now I wouldn't have paid that much. I'm glad I was "uneducated" at the time. I might not have bought her and I would have missed out on the things she has taught me, the past 16 summers of sailing, racing, winning, giggles of joy, sighs of pleasure, looks of astonishment as she outsails other boats, sunsets in her cockpit at anchor, evening cruises with friends new and old, feeling of peace as the engine shuts down and the sails fill, smiles as someone new tries the helm and begins to discover sailing. "fair condition"? immeasurable value if you enjoy her, a worthless liability if you don't. pick your number. 1974 Cal 27 T/2 hull number 098, "Knot Ready" to sell her. She waits under 2 feet of recent snow to sail again in the summer. value? priceless! 1969 Cal Cruising 36, "Submit"ing in two days to her call to come spend the next 3 months living on her, sailing her, enjoying her. ReggieTo: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 05:42:29 +0000 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Off to "Submit" again Hi I have a 72 T/2 and wonder what it is worth. it is in fair condition. 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Hello - I have a 1971 27 poptop that we're close to completing a refit. We're in need of a head sail for a roller furling. A 150 would be nice. You mentioned you have 7 sails for your 27 T-2. Would you happen to have a sail that we're looking for and would be willing to sell? Thanks for your consideration.

I have one headsail [also one mains'l and a racing spinnaker] from a Cal 2-27, roller furling type. Dims are as follows - Luff = 36.5' Leech = 38.5' foot = 18', 3" It has one 8" long tear along the leech, easily fixed. Has one telltale window. Lots of sailing life remains in this sail. $550 plus shipping. *Joe DeMers - owner* Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/>*phone & fax (860) 666-2184* On 1/15/2015 9:54 AM, jo… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > Hello - I have a 1971 27 poptop that we're close to completing a refit. We're in need of a head sail for a roller furling. A 150 would be nice. > > You mentioned you have 7 sails for your 27 T-2. Would you happen to have a sail that we're looking for and would be willing to sell? > > Thanks for your consideration. > > ------------------------------------ > Posted by: jo… [at] hotmail.com > ------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo Groups Links > > > > > -- *Joe DeMers - owner* Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/>*phone & fax (860) 666-2184*

---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <jonethorn@...> wrote : cool. i am presently refitting a 71 pop top too. Hello - I have a 1971 27 poptop that we're close to completing a refit. We're in need of a head sail for a roller furling. A 150 would be nice. You mentioned you have 7 sails for your 27 T-2. Would you happen to have a sail that we're looking for and would be willing to sell? Thanks for your consideration.

---In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <motorcyclejack2@...> wrote : lets try thay again .... cool. i am presently refitting a 71 pop top too. there. that's better - --In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <jonethorn@...> wrote : Hello - I have a 1971 27 poptop that we're close to completing a refit. We're in need of a head sail for a roller furling. A 150 would be nice. You mentioned you have 7 sails for your 27 T-2. Would you happen to have a sail that we're looking for and would be willing to sell? Thanks for your consideration.

does your wife sail? if not, have her/ get for her and introductory sailing course, just for women. Sounds sexist, but the introduction should instill in her the possibilities. We tend to only see our limitations compared to our spouse's expertise. And, if there is anything she would like, which can be done within reason, which would help her enjoy the boat more, do it. Doesn't like the interior color or chipping coating? paint it (probably needs it anyway. Curtains? cushions? proper wine glasses and plates and silverware for a night at anchor? get 'em. You will not be able to wear that bout out, and you'll rue the day you dump her (the boat). Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 03:55:56 +0000 Subject: Re: Value of T/2 - was - RE: [Cal_Boats] Off to "Submit" again Hi Reggie Thank you for your response and insight. I failed to mention it is a CAL 27' T2 a 1972 and only has a outboard, I have seven sails and the interior is in fair condition. I have little to no time for her. When I was single ... I spent plenty of time on her. I live in Southern California were I kept her moored and sailed all year round. But now I just don't have the time since I got married. Humm!!! I will try to list it for a couple of grand and see what happens. Thanks again. Carpe Ocianus Titanium Joe On Monday, January 12, 2015 7:12 AM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Beautiful poetry, Reggie. Also contains the beauty of truth. CheersCharlieCAL 25Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 5:38 AMTo: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Off to "Submit" again old Cals are worth whatever you can get for them. T/2s are great sailing boats, but homely. they have limited appeal. in excellent shape, you would probably feel like you had died and gone to heaven if you could get $9500 for her. lots have sold for $5000or less. each person values "fair condition" differently. poor, fair, good, very good, excellent. with or without trailer, inboard or outboard, etc. if you love the boat and enjoy sailing her, it is worth more to you than you can get for her. if she is just hanging around being a pain to deal with and expensive to keep, give her away for a tax write off or to someone who will love her. also, location counts. I bought mine, an inboard, with trailer for $3000 and if I knew then what I know now I wouldn't have paid that much. I'm glad I was "uneducated" at the time. I might not have bought her and I would have missed out on the things she has taught me, the past 16 summers of sailing, racing, winning, giggles of joy, sighs of pleasure, looks of astonishment as she outsails other boats, sunsets in her cockpit at anchor, evening cruises with friends new and old, feeling of peace as the engine shuts down and the sails fill, smiles as someone new tries the helm and begins to discover sailing."fair condition"? immeasurable value if you enjoy her, a worthless liability if you don't. pick your number.1974 Cal 27 T/2 hull number 098, "Knot Ready" to sell her. She waits under 2 feet of recent snow to sail again in the summer. value? priceless!1969 Cal Cruising 36, "Submit"ing in two days to her call to come spend the next 3 months living on her, sailing her, enjoying her. ReggieTo: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comDate: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 05:42:29 +0000Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Off to "Submit" again Hi I have a 72 T/2 and wonder what it is worth. it is in fair condition. Carpe OcianusTitanium Joe

At which Marina is she berthed in So. Cal., and what is her name. There are relatively few of that model around; there was one I'd sailed on, and raced against back around the turn of the millennia; she was later berth beside my boat and used by a fellow, later, a couple, as a live-aboard.Jerry of Cal 24 Shpritz. On Thursday, January 15, 2015 2:40 PM, "r good my… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: does your wife sail? if not, have her/ get for her and introductory sailing course, just for women. Sounds sexist, but the introduction should instill in her the possibilities. We tend to only see our limitations compared to our spouse's expertise. And, if there is anything she would like, which can be done within reason, which would help her enjoy the boat more, do it. Doesn't like the interior color or chipping coating? paint it (probably needs it anyway. Curtains? cushions? proper wine glasses and plates and silverware for a night at anchor? get 'em. You will not be able to wear that bout out, and you'll rue the day you dump her (the boat). Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 03:55:56 +0000 Subject: Re: Value of T/2 - was - RE: [Cal_Boats] Off to "Submit" again Hi Reggie Thank you for your response and insight. I failed to mention it is a CAL 27' T2 a 1972 and only has a outboard, I have seven sails and the interior is in fair condition. I have little to no time for her. When I was single ... I spent plenty of time on her. I live in Southern California were I kept her moored and sailed all year round. But now I just don't have the time since I got married. Humm!!! I will try to list it for a couple of grand and see what happens. Thanks again. Carpe Ocianus Titanium Joe On Monday, January 12, 2015 7:12 AM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Beautiful poetry, Reggie. Also contains the beauty of truth. CheersCharlieCAL 25Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 5:38 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Off to "Submit" again old Cals are worth whatever you can get for them. T/2s are great sailing boats, but homely. they have limited appeal. in excellent shape, you would probably feel like you had died and gone to heaven if you could get $9500 for her. lots have sold for $5000or less. each person values "fair condition" differently. poor, fair, good, very good, excellent. with or without trailer, inboard or outboard, etc. if you love the boat and enjoy sailing her, it is worth more to you than you can get for her. if she is just hanging around being a pain to deal with and expensive to keep, give her away for a tax write off or to someone who will love her. also, location counts. I bought mine, an inboard, with trailer for $3000 and if I knew then what I know now I wouldn't have paid that much. I'm glad I was "uneducated" at the time. I might not have bought her and I would have missed out on the things she has taught me, the past 16 summers of sailing, racing, winning, giggles of joy, sighs of pleasure, looks of astonishment as she outsails other boats, sunsets in her cockpit at anchor, evening cruises with friends new and old, feeling of peace as the engine shuts down and the sails fill, smiles as someone new tries the helm and begins to discover sailing. "fair condition"? immeasurable value if you enjoy her, a worthless liability if you don't. pick your number. 1974 Cal 27 T/2 hull number 098, "Knot Ready" to sell her. She waits under 2 feet of recent snow to sail again in the summer. value? priceless! 1969 Cal Cruising 36, "Submit"ing in two days to her call to come spend the next 3 months living on her, sailing her, enjoying her. ReggieTo: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 05:42:29 +0000 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Off to "Submit" again Hi I have a 72 T/2 and wonder what it is worth. it is in fair condition. Carpe Ocianus Titanium Joe