Re: [Cal_Boats] Gooseneck slide coming off

I have used the inserts for installing the padeyes that my boomvang attaches to. Drill the right size hole for mounting and use the mounting tool. I'm happy with them. Kevin Swart Cal25Panache 3-use timesert/helicoil inserts. option 1, I don't like because that's just more holes in the mast weakening it option 2, I think the slide would not take the larger hole without making it to weak option 3, I've never used either before although I read good write ups, but the they're really designed for deeper holes and not sure they'll work with the thin cross section of the mast. Does anyone have any suggestions or has fixed this issue, or something similar, before? Thanks and regards, Grae Morrison '72 Cal-29 #437 'Destiny' Red Bank, NJ

This has been my biggest problem. Go with Option 2. I have increased the size of the screw many times. I think I am up to a 3/8ths. I didn't break the heads off this time, just wore out the threads. There is enough left for helicoils. I just have to drop the mast, to do it right. Randy Out Patient Channel Islands Ca Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note® 3 <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: "grae morrison gr… [at] gtmorrison.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> </div><div>Date:03/24/2015 8:37 PM (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com </div><div>Cc: </div><div>Subject: [Cal_Boats] Gooseneck slide coming off </div><div> </div>I was down taking the covers off and checking on 'Destiny' Sunday and wanted to put the boom back on whilst I had a spare five minutes, when I looked at the slide which holds the gooseneck it was really loose and able to come away from the mast by half an inch, I unscrewed the slide and found that all but two (at the top) were worn smooth and the bolts had were not holding at all. I figure my options are: 1- reposition the slide lower (the cunningham strap always had the boom at the lowest point anyhow) 2- drillout larger and re-thread the mast mounting holes 3-use timesert/helicoil inserts. option 1, I don't like because that's just more holes in the mast weakening it option 2, I think the slide would not take the larger hole without making it to weak option 3, I've never used either before although I read good write ups, but the they're really designed for deeper holes and not sure they'll work with the thin cross section of the mast. Does anyone have any suggestions or has fixed this issue, or something similar, before? Thanks and regards, Grae Morrison '72 Cal-29 #437 'Destiny' Red Bank, NJ

Hi, Folks. I’ve also done the screw size increases and the move the whole slider up or down. After a while, the screw heads get too large to sit flush, and thus don’t let the slider slide. Having done the a number of these things, I still like the hose clamps around the mast as a simple fix. Chacun a son goût. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 10:13 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Gooseneck slide coming off This has been my biggest problem. Go with Option 2. I have increased the size of the screw many times. I think I am up to a 3/8ths. I didn't break the heads off this time, just wore out the threads. There is enough left for helicoils. I just have to drop the mast, to do it right. Randy Out Patient Channel Islands Ca Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note® 3 From: "grae morrison gr… [at] gtmorrison.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date:03/24/2015 8:37 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Cc: Subject: [Cal_Boats] Gooseneck slide coming off I was down taking the covers off and checking on 'Destiny' Sunday and wanted to put the boom back on whilst I had a spare five minutes, when I looked at the slide which holds the gooseneck it was really loose and able to come away from the mast by half an inch, I unscrewed the slide and found that all but two (at the top) were worn smooth and the bolts had were not holding at all. I figure my options are: 1- reposition the slide lower (the cunningham strap always had the boom at the lowest point anyhow) 2- drillout larger and re-thread the mast mounting holes 3-use timesert/helicoil inserts. option 1, I don't like because that's just more holes in the mast weakening it option 2, I think the slide would not take the larger hole without making it to weak option 3, I've never used either before although I read good write ups, but the they're really designed for deeper holes and not sure they'll work with the thin cross section of the mast. Does anyone have any suggestions or has fixed this issue, or something similar, before? Thanks and regards, Grae Morrison '72 Cal-29 #437 'Destiny' Red Bank, NJ

I used aluminum 1/4-20 Nutserts (or Rivnuts) to re-mount my gooseneck. Both this boat and the last had fixed goosenecks. The last got eight 1/4 inch S/S pop-rivets. Never budged. Have to be able to remove the gooseneck to get the Strong-Track off so wanted threaded attachment this time. > On Mar 25, 2015, at 07:12, saylorran sa… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > This has been my biggest problem. > > Go with Option 2. I have increased the size of the screw many times. I think I am up to a 3/8ths. > > I didn't break the heads off this time, just wore out the threads. There is enough left for helicoils. I just have to drop the mast, to do it right. > > Randy > Out Patient > Channel Islands Ca > > > > Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note® 3 > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: "grae morrison gr… [at] gtmorrison.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Date:03/24/2015 8:37 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Cc: > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Gooseneck slide coming off > > > I was down taking the covers off and checking on 'Destiny' Sunday and > wanted to put the boom back on whilst I had a spare five minutes, when I > looked at the slide which holds the gooseneck it was really loose and > able to come away from the mast by half an inch, I unscrewed the slide > and found that all but two (at the top) were worn smooth and the bolts > had were not holding at all. > > I figure my options are: > > 1- reposition the slide lower (the cunningham strap always had the > boom at the lowest point anyhow) > > 2- drillout larger and re-thread the mast mounting holes > > 3-use timesert/helicoil inserts. > > option 1, I don't like because that's just more holes in the mast > weakening it > option 2, I think the slide would not take the larger hole without > making it to weak > option 3, I've never used either before although I read good write ups, > but the they're really designed for deeper holes and not sure they'll > work with the thin cross section of the mast. > > Does anyone have any suggestions or has fixed this issue, or something > similar, before? > > Thanks and regards, > Grae Morrison > '72 Cal-29 #437 'Destiny' > Red Bank, NJ > >

Charlie, I have 2 hose clamps on mine now until I can get a permanent clamp built. Randy Cal 2 29 Out Patient Channel Islands Ca Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note® 3 <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> </div><div>Date:03/24/2015 6:02 PM (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com </div><div>Cc: </div><div>Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Gooseneck slide coming off </div><div> </div>Hi, Grae. In the past I've used SS hose clamps around the mast. Worked quite well. Another option is a hole in the front of the mast where you can insert a hex driver that puts a nut onto a machine screw that you inserted into the slider track from the back. You'll end up with a few nuts down inside the mast base before you're done. There is definitely a lot of creativity required for this nagging little (big) problem. Cheers Charlie CAL 25 and CAL 40 Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 11:37 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Gooseneck slide coming off I was down taking the covers off and checking on 'Destiny' Sunday and wanted to put the boom back on whilst I had a spare five minutes, when I looked at the slide which holds the gooseneck it was really loose and able to come away from the mast by half an inch, I unscrewed the slide and found that all but two (at the top) were worn smooth and the bolts had were not holding at all. I figure my options are: 1- reposition the slide lower (the cunningham strap always had the boom at the lowest point anyhow) 2- drillout larger and re-thread the mast mounting holes 3-use timesert/helicoil inserts. option 1, I don't like because that's just more holes in the mast weakening it option 2, I think the slide would not take the larger hole without making it to weak option 3, I've never used either before although I read good write ups, but the they're really designed for deeper holes and not sure they'll work with the thin cross section of the mast. Does anyone have any suggestions or has fixed this issue, or something similar, before? Thanks and regards, Grae Morrison '72 Cal-29 #437 'Destiny' Red Bank, NJ ------------------------------------ Posted by: grae morrison <gr… [at] gtmorrison.net> ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links

Charlie, Are you using electrical tape to prevent galvanic corrosion? The last time I did this I got pitting. Randy Cal 2 29 Out Patient Channel Islands Ca Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note® 3 <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> </div><div>Date:03/25/2015 8:49 AM (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com </div><div>Cc: </div><div>Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Gooseneck slide coming off </div><div> </div>Hi, Folks. I’ve also done the screw size increases and the move the whole slider up or down. After a while, the screw heads get too large to sit flush, and thus don’t let the slider slide. Having done the a number of these things, I still like the hose clamps around the mast as a simple fix. Chacun a son goût. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 10:13 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Gooseneck slide coming off This has been my biggest problem. Go with Option 2. I have increased the size of the screw many times. I think I am up to a 3/8ths. I didn't break the heads off this time, just wore out the threads. There is enough left for helicoils. I just have to drop the mast, to do it right. Randy Out Patient Channel Islands Ca Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note® 3 From: "grae morrison gr… [at] gtmorrison.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date:03/24/2015 8:37 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Cc: Subject: [Cal_Boats] Gooseneck slide coming off I was down taking the covers off and checking on 'Destiny' Sunday and wanted to put the boom back on whilst I had a spare five minutes, when I looked at the slide which holds the gooseneck it was really loose and able to come away from the mast by half an inch, I unscrewed the slide and found that all but two (at the top) were worn smooth and the bolts had were not holding at all. I figure my options are: 1- reposition the slide lower (the cunningham strap always had the boom at the lowest point anyhow) 2- drillout larger and re-thread the mast mounting holes 3-use timesert/helicoil inserts. option 1, I don't like because that's just more holes in the mast weakening it option 2, I think the slide would not take the larger hole without making it to weak option 3, I've never used either before although I read good write ups, but the they're really designed for deeper holes and not sure they'll work with the thin cross section of the mast. Does anyone have any suggestions or has fixed this issue, or something similar, before? Thanks and regards, Grae Morrison '72 Cal-29 #437 'Destiny' Red Bank, NJ